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The Real Libya Story: There Is No Story (The Obama media has spoken. Now shut up!)
The National Journal via The Atlantic ^ | Wednesday, October 24, 2012 | Michael Hirsh

Posted on 10/24/2012 5:14:49 PM PDT by kristinn

It was, from the start, about as hard an intelligence problem as you can find. The date was September 11, and the CIA was stretched thin, monitoring anti-American protests in no fewer than 54 countries that day, according to Director of National Intelligence Jim Clapper. Post-Gaddafi Libya itself was still chaotic, caught up in the fog of war, and indeed Ambassador Chris Stevens, at great personal risk, had journeyed to his old Arab Spring-era stomping ground in Benghazi to assess the situation himself. Still, Clapper recently told an annual conference of intelligence professionals that there was no warning to Stevens or anyone else that he was about to be targeted by an organized extremist attack.

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...There's only one problem with that view: No evidence has surfaced so far to support the idea that the Obama Administration deceived the public deliberately. On Wednesday a new spate of stories emerged, quoting unclassified emails sent to the White House and State Department only hours after the attacks that indicate the extremist Libyan militia Ansar al-Sharia had asserted responsibility.

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But that story doesn't hold up well either. The emails in question contained nothing more than "raw" intelligence, uncorroborated and unverified, that often flows in after an event. Intelligence officials typically don't deliver their assessments until they have "finished" reports based on multiple sources, and corroborated evidence,...

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Interestingly, even Romney seems to have grown a bit tired of the Benghazi story, as he indicated on Monday night when moderator Bob Schieffer made Libya question No. 1 in his final debate with President Obama and the GOP nominee basically ignored it. Nonetheless, the story of what senior administration officials knew and when they knew it doesn't seem to go away. Perhaps it will after November 6.

(Excerpt) Read more at theatlantic.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: benghazi; christopherstevens; liar; libya; obama

1 posted on 10/24/2012 5:14:50 PM PDT by kristinn
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To: kristinn

and the reports of live video from a drone?

You know the president had access to it within hours


2 posted on 10/24/2012 5:21:22 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: kristinn
The Real Libya Story: There Is No Story (The Obama media has spoken...)

Now that they've spoken they can sit down. Fortunately for America there are other more curious media sources we can use.

3 posted on 10/24/2012 5:22:18 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: kristinn

Can you imagine how horrifying those 6-8 hours were?

What next... will there be recorded calls begging for help released? I am sure they will find a way to dismiss those too


4 posted on 10/24/2012 5:23:10 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: kristinn

“(The Obama media has spoken. Now shut up!)”

I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you’re not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with ANY administration.


5 posted on 10/24/2012 5:24:40 PM PDT by Mark (Don't argue with my posts. I typed while under sniper fire.)
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To: kristinn

Screw the Benghazi story, I want to know more about the 30-year-old Romney obsucred boat regisistration sticker story.


6 posted on 10/24/2012 5:29:45 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: GeronL

Apparently State knew about it, too (other emails were released this afternoon). So that makes liars not only of Obama, but Hillary. Not that we didn’t already know that!

It’s going to be hard for them to get out of this.

BTW, is it just me, or is it hard to post or even to refresh tonight? THis has been going on all day. I don’t know if it depends on where one lives (I live in Florida) or if it’s an FR-wide thing.

They’ve shut us down during the last two debates, and you know they’re going to shut us down on election day. Is there some kind of internet security company we could get to help us?


7 posted on 10/24/2012 5:35:51 PM PDT by livius
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To: livius

The site is the site, I am not sure geography matters.

Yes, its a bit fuzzy or some other term tonight and lately.


8 posted on 10/24/2012 5:38:27 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: kristinn

The Dems are on the side of poverty


9 posted on 10/24/2012 5:38:47 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: livius

Down here in south Florida posting has been slow too.

Been to St. Augustine before...beautiful city, love it, even though we were there as tourists. :)


11 posted on 10/24/2012 5:53:02 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: kristinn
No evidence has surfaced so far to support the idea that the Obama Administration deceived the public deliberately.

Wanna bet?

CBS spiked a part of Obama's interview given 14 hours later in which Obama said:

You're right that this is not a situation that was -- exactly the same as what happened in Egypt and my suspicion is that there are folks involved in this who were looking to target Americans from the start," Mr. Obama said.

That part of the interview was on the cutting room floor when the interview was first aired

That is the closest Obama came to telling the truth. I wonder why he did not tell CandyBooBoo to get that transcript? Because he knew it had been spiked. And if he knew Libya was not like Egypt, then why the hell was the video all he could talk about at the UN?

What was in the aired version?

PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA: I think most Americans - Democrats or Republicans - understand that there are times where we set politics aside, and one of those is when we've got a direct threat to American personnel who are overseas. And so, you know, I think that if you look at how most Republicans have reacted - most elected officials – they've reacted responsibly, waiting to find out the facts before they talked; making sure that our number one priority is the safety and security of American personnel.

It appears that Governor Romney didn't have his facts right. You know, the situation in cairo was one in which a – an embassy that is being threatened by major protests releases a press release, saying that the film that had disturbed so many Muslims around the world wasn't representative of what Americans believe about Islam, in after effort to cool the situation down. It didn't come from me. It didn't come from Secretary [Hillary] Clinton. It came from folks on the ground who are potentially in danger, and, you know, my tendency is to cut folks a little bit of slack when they're in that circumstance, rather than try to question their judgment from the comfort of a campaign office.

And, you know, I do have to say that, more broadly, you know, we believe in the First Amendment. It is one of the hallmarks of our constitution that I'm sworn to uphold. And so, we are always going to uphold the right for individuals to speak their mind. On the other hand, this film is not representative of who we are and our values, and I think it's important for us to communicate that. That's never an excuse for violence against Americans, which is why my number one priority - and my initial statement - focused on making sure that - not only are Americans safe, but that we go after anybody who would attack Americans. But there's a broader lesson to be learned here, and, you know, Governor Romney seems to have a tendency to shoot first and aim later. And as President, one of the things I've learned is that you can't do that; that, you know, it's important for you to make sure that the statements that you make are backed up by the facts; and that you've thought through the ramifications before you make them.
[me: Yet he finds nothing wrong about lying in front of the caskets of 4 DEAD Americans???]

[Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2012/09/13/cbs-nbc-morning-shows-push-libya-blame-romney-hype-obama-attacks#ixzz2AGaxgVSY]

Given everything we have learned since 9/11, one has to ask why it was spiked. Again, based on the totality of the actions of the WH and State Department, I can only conclude there was a conscious decision made to go with the video excuse and CBS was asked to cut that statement from the version which aired.

I want to know what people were involved in changing the narrative. Who changed the narrative and who told Susan Rice to lie like a rug? And why did Kroft agree to go with the false narrative?

12 posted on 10/24/2012 6:00:54 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: kristinn

Ahhhhhhhhh.....the Atlantic magazine.....
Full of old wrecks, fish sh-t and crabs.


13 posted on 10/24/2012 6:03:12 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: SoFloFreeper
Good one on the cow pie. .... Yes, I just got another "cannot post page" and disconnect trying to respond, it's been a real pill for a couple of days now. Wonder if FR's being DDoS'd.

My Firefox almost can't contact the site at all -- it's quicker to flag "server not responding / try again?"

14 posted on 10/24/2012 6:07:06 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
Good post, you nailed the play-along press pukes and the Regime's liars, including the Liar-in-Chief.

If the polls of white men intending to vote is any indication, they've finally figured this guy out. And reportedly, Libya was what broke the ice. Those voters know now that Obama and his henchmen stood next to the bodies of dead Americans, pretending to offer sympathy and support, and lied like rugs for their own political skins -- after letting those dead Americans hang out to dry.

You don't need to have seen a whole raft of John Wayne movies to parse the equities on that one.

When people are lying dead on the ground, Americans expect honesty and the straight story -- and Obama decided to give 'em the old buck-and-wing instead.

15 posted on 10/24/2012 6:26:54 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: kristinn

16 posted on 10/24/2012 6:34:05 PM PDT by New Perspective (Proud father of a 8 yr old son with Down Syndrome and fighting to keep him off Obama's death panels.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

St A is great! I wish there were fewer Dems here though. Actually, the Dems are not in the majority, but they’re much more vocal, as usual.

Aside from that, St Augustine is a wonderful place and we love our tourists!


17 posted on 10/24/2012 6:34:50 PM PDT by livius
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To: kristinn

Michael Hirsh, thank you for playing “Maybe it was a Protest” version 4.02.06.

(epic fail)


18 posted on 10/24/2012 7:06:21 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: Mark

Perfect! It was nice to read that without Hitlery’s nauseating pitch. That’s one benefit of the written word vs audio.


19 posted on 10/24/2012 8:02:46 PM PDT by FamiliarFace
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
No evidence has surfaced so far to support the idea that the Obama Administration deceived the public deliberately.

Whew, what a relief! The Administration is merely indecisive and ineffectual. And here I thought we were in trouble.
20 posted on 10/24/2012 8:15:52 PM PDT by Colinsky
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To: kristinn

I just watched/listened to the Obama UN speech on Sept 25, 2012. He absolutely and repeatedly refers to a root cause of the violence in Benghazi being the video slandering the prophet of islam.

He does it from the 13 minute mark through the 21 minute mark in the 30 minute speech. The key quote is at 20:36.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73EQoIsKwCw


21 posted on 10/25/2012 6:32:00 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: kristinn

If there is any blessing to the grossly incompetent and authoritarian Obama Administration, it’s that the Main Stream Media has irretrievably squandered their already questionable credibility.

From this point on, Conservatives can ridicule stories from ABCCBSNBCCNN with the same confidence as sources as impeccable as “The View” and “Dr. Phil.”


22 posted on 10/25/2012 6:55:04 AM PDT by papertyger (Why did Obama frame private Americans for Benghazi.)
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To: kristinn
Good morning.

The first two words that came to mind after reading this piece were: knee pads.

5.56mm

23 posted on 10/25/2012 7:08:02 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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