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AP poll: Romney erases Obama advantage among women
AP (Yahoo) ^ | 10/25/2012 | AP

Posted on 10/25/2012 1:30:44 AM PDT by South40

WASHINGTON (AP) — What gender gap? Less than two weeks out from Election Day, Republican Mitt Romney has erased President Barack Obama's 16-point advantage among women, a new Associated Press-GfK poll shows. And the president, in turn, has largely eliminated Romney's edge among men.

Those churning gender dynamics leave the presidential race still a virtual dead heat, with Romney favored by 47 percent of likely voters and Obama by 45 percent, a result within the poll's margin of sampling error, the survey shows.

After a commanding first debate performance and a generally good month, Romney has gained ground with Americans on a number of important fronts, including their confidence in how he would handle the economy and their impressions of his ability to understand their problems.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012polls; gendergap; romney2012; waronwomen; women; womensvote

1 posted on 10/25/2012 1:30:51 AM PDT by South40
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To: South40

These polls are killing me..can this be over already? lol


2 posted on 10/25/2012 1:33:46 AM PDT by StopDemocratsDotCom
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To: South40
From the article: A month ago, Romney's advantage among men was 13 percentage points. Now, it's down to 5 points, with most of the shift toward Obama coming among unmarried men.

Total BS.

3 posted on 10/25/2012 1:35:03 AM PDT by meadsjn
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To: South40

Oh sure vote for Obama? I think not! All the men I know, just say NO. The only....way Obama can win is by vote fraud.


4 posted on 10/25/2012 1:37:26 AM PDT by Fully Awake DAV (Navy Vet when homosexuality was not tolerated)
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To: StopDemocratsDotCom
I rode the Giant Dipper roller coaster at Mission Beach, CA a few weeks ago. The ride was terrible and I hated every second of it. Even so, I prefer it over the roller coaster we have been on in this election cycle.

If there was ever a president who did not deserve a second term it is Barack Hussein Obama.

5 posted on 10/25/2012 1:40:06 AM PDT by South40 ("Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance." - Barack Hussein Obama - Cairo, Egypt, June 4, 2009.)
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To: Fully Awake DAV

I think the “men” this liberal puke reporter refers to are the homos that now sicken the Armed Forces. It’s the AP after all..


6 posted on 10/25/2012 1:41:49 AM PDT by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: max americana

I have a brother who supports Obama. He is as liberal as he is uninformed. The man is 100% clueless. He calls me a “right-wing extremist” whenever I try to show him the real Obama proving the point that you just can’t fix stupid.


7 posted on 10/25/2012 1:52:29 AM PDT by South40 ("Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance." - Barack Hussein Obama - Cairo, Egypt, June 4, 2009.)
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To: meadsjn
Total BS.

Ya think? lol!

In Gallup’s latest 21-day rolling average of likely voter preferences, based on interviewing conducted Oct. 1-21, Romney leads Obama by 14 points among men

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/10/24/gallup-the-gender-gap-is-more-about-men-than-women/

8 posted on 10/25/2012 1:56:09 AM PDT by South40 ("Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance." - Barack Hussein Obama - Cairo, Egypt, June 4, 2009.)
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To: South40

Brainwashed in school ?


9 posted on 10/25/2012 2:04:23 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: South40
Romney leads Obama by 14 points among men

I'd bet when it is over, Romney will have gotten the men's votes by more that 20 points.

90% of those being polled are not answering, and the result defaults to Obama.

10 posted on 10/25/2012 2:12:35 AM PDT by meadsjn
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To: fieldmarshaldj

No, he attended parochial school and never went to college. His problem is his daughter is a militant lesbian. I either accept that as “normal” or I’m a hater. I pointed out that only recently did Obama change his position on that issue and that back in 2008 when my bro voted for him, Obama shared my opinion that marriage is between a man and a woman. I got no real response. But I never do when I present him with logic and facts.


11 posted on 10/25/2012 2:22:52 AM PDT by South40 ("Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance." - Barack Hussein Obama - Cairo, Egypt, June 4, 2009.)
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To: South40

This doesn’t even make sense. Where do they get this stuff? Polling mostly gay men maybe.


12 posted on 10/25/2012 2:26:37 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills and none dare call it treason)
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To: MestaMachine

lol! Could be. Gay men or journalists.


13 posted on 10/25/2012 2:29:36 AM PDT by South40 ("Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance." - Barack Hussein Obama - Cairo, Egypt, June 4, 2009.)
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To: South40
<accuracy>

And the president, in turn, has largely eliminated Romney's edge among  girlymen



14 posted on 10/25/2012 2:47:58 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: StopDemocratsDotCom

I read something that says alot of these polls are projecting 80 to 90 percent of people will vote based on how they determine likely voter.. totaly unrealistic which means most of polls are crap. The article went onto say the only poll look good for likel voter model is rasmussen. The article went onto say that likely voters are not really likley voters and they including the unenthusiastic which means democrats are going to suprised on election day.


15 posted on 10/25/2012 3:01:56 AM PDT by scbison
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To: scbison

http://www.bobkrumm.com/blog/?p=2449 here is article talking about this.


16 posted on 10/25/2012 3:02:46 AM PDT by scbison
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To: South40; Impy; GOPsterinMA; Clintonfatigued; Clemenza; BillyBoy; BlackElk; EternalVigilance

That’s a shame. The more I see it, the more I’ve come to the conclusion that the medical (psychiatric) community was essentially blackmailed and pressured beyond reason to reclassify homosexuality as within the realm of normalcy when it clearly is dysfunctional. The homosexuals I’ve come across were troubled individuals and no amount of “acceptance” will change that. It’s simply astonishing. Rather than try to treat the individual, they want to turn society upside down and bend the world to cater to their dysfunction. Now that’s sick.

Just as an aside, I can understand wanting to be supportive of a child... however, the support (for me) does not go so far as to toss out thousands of years of established social, religious and moral values that are the basic bedrock of society in that it “might” possibly make them feel better about themselves (and ultimately for most, it won’t), the example of the Cheneys. Where I part company with some FReepers is that I believe (aside from the psychological dysfunctional component) there is a genetic aspect as well (again, still dysfunctional) for many.

I have no doubt the next step after gay marriage will be the removal of protections for children for sexual predators (i.e. Jerry Sandusky’s actions wouldn’t even be considered criminal), bestiality and a whole rash of deviant behavior that supporters will demand the mainstreaming of so as to (as with gay marriage) make the dysfunctional folks feel “normal”, “accepted” and “not judged.” Then we’ll have the pervert Sodomesque utopia where the sickos are normal and those “judgmental Christians” demanding “standards” are the twisted deviants. Thank the good ole “liberal” mindset for it and we’re already too far down the path to it now. It’s why “liberalism” itself is a psychological dysfunction.


17 posted on 10/25/2012 3:09:08 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: South40

Your brother’s world has been turned upside down - much like the rest of us. Having to accept a gay/lesbian child is not something we ever expect to have to deal with.

He must not have researched Obama’s background - but voted for him to show he was not a racist.

Plus, men never like to admit to bad judgement.

Be a kind Christian.


18 posted on 10/25/2012 3:14:16 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Life is prickly - carry tweezers.)
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To: South40

Your brother’s world has been turned upside down - much like the rest of us. Having to accept a gay/lesbian child is not something we ever expect to have to deal with.

He must not have researched Obama’s background - but voted for him to show he was not a racist.

Plus, men never like to admit to bad judgement.

Be a kind Christian.


19 posted on 10/25/2012 3:25:06 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Life is prickly - carry tweezers.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

“The more I see it, the more I’ve come to the conclusion that the medical (psychiatric) community was essentially blackmailed and pressured beyond reason to reclassify homosexuality as within the realm of normalcy when it clearly is dysfunctional.”

Absolutely; here in NJ we were fortunate enough to have a closeted gay governor dispel any myths about the “normalcy” of homosexuality. He plays no role in their movement, and probably was never offered one, because he was outed involuntarily. He had a family (his ex-wife later claimed she and their child were political props) and opposed gay marriage, while he was getting man love on the side.

Sick...


20 posted on 10/25/2012 3:58:35 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: South40

“His problem is his daughter is a militant lesbian.”

I know people who let a disaster like that effect their faith and politics; it is a shame. When I sin I don’t think the commandments should be amended to accommodate me; I’m just a sinner, and have to deal with that.

I’m sorry that you have that situation in your family.


21 posted on 10/25/2012 4:00:33 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: South40

Obama erased Romney’s edge about men? Yahoo is on crack.

I would add that Romney has the married and older women already.

The key fact is that without white men, Obama won’t win. I don’t see him getting a majority of the white male vote on Election Day.


22 posted on 10/25/2012 4:00:44 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved FrieGrnd Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

Sorry its AP - I have sometimes get them messed up! AP is the least reliable pollster in this election cycle.


23 posted on 10/25/2012 4:04:30 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved FrieGrnd Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: South40

Gee, I wonder if the talking heads will discuss Obama’s gender gap and his lack of appeal among female voters. The “gender gap” sure has been a popular topic when Obama had an advantage.


24 posted on 10/25/2012 4:41:18 AM PDT by BinaryBoy (I'm anti-socialism because I'm anti-slavery.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
I am probably more "gay friendly" than most Freepers here, but the fact remains that it is a disorder, it is abnormal.

Unfortunately, no one is going to look into the real causes of it, because from both Left and Right, there is no impetus to do so. One side wants to say it is simply a normal but alternate state of human existence, the other wants to say it is simply a choice. Humanity loses.

I also believe that it is INCREASING, perhaps due to some environmental factors (phytoestrogens, plasticizers leaching into the environment, something). Because of the stubborness on both sides, we may never known. Right now, there may be young children growing up who might have the tendency, but with proper treatment, could be steered in the right direction.. but no, I wont see that in my lifetime I think.

25 posted on 10/25/2012 5:12:06 AM PDT by Paradox (I want Obama defeated. Period.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; Impy; Clintonfatigued; Clemenza; BillyBoy; BlackElk; DarthVader; NFHale

“Where I part company with some FReepers is that I believe (aside from the psychological dysfunctional component) there is a genetic aspect as well (again, still dysfunctional) for many.”

Completely agree. I remember going to grade school with a couple girls that were boys and vice-versa. We knew they were gays back then, period. They were born that way. A couple of them had normal siblings. And like I posted here before, some of suspected gays have been looked up on Facebook and “SURPRISE”/s they have “life partners”.

Something went wrong with the sperm milkshake/egg landing field hand-off in those cases.


26 posted on 10/25/2012 6:42:36 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (The Glove don't fit, but it's better than a burqa.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

How do you know that perverts/munchers hadn’t already done their “magic” on these girls?


27 posted on 10/25/2012 6:47:56 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER; Impy; fieldmarshaldj
1st, 2nd 3rd grade at an Italian Catholic School in the late 70’s/early 80’s taught by nuns? Doubtful. There weren't “outreach” programs back them. None of the priests were ever outed as diddlers (I was an alter boy back then as well).

And the few I'm thinking of LOOKED abnormal - the girls were bigger than most boys and looked mannish the boys were sissys. Plus, most of them had normal siblings.

I vote genetics.

28 posted on 10/25/2012 7:16:44 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (The Glove don't fit, but it's better than a burqa.)
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To: South40

The governmentfatherhusband turned out to be a drunken, gambling addicted bum who couldn’t fulfill his promises to provide for and protect “his” women like he’d inherently promised to.


29 posted on 10/25/2012 7:19:13 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: GOPsterinMA

“I was an alter boy back then as well”

What changed you?


30 posted on 10/25/2012 7:22:33 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

The hormones kicked in...


31 posted on 10/25/2012 7:25:50 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (The Glove don't fit, but it's better than a burqa.)
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To: GOPsterinMA
I vote genetics.

Well, they've pretty well mapped the gene code. As far as I can tell, no packer gene.

32 posted on 10/25/2012 4:21:57 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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To: South40

“I have a brother who supports Obama. He is as liberal as he is uninformed. The man is 100% clueless. He calls me a “right-wing extremist” whenever I try to show him the real Obama proving the point that you just can’t fix stupid.”

LOL, I have the very same “problem” if you call it that. Mine hates Republicans, right-wingers etc and is pro-union and he is the OLDER brother. I don’t even talk to him unless it’s required, like say, scheduling whose house we will spend Christmas Day on for the family.


33 posted on 10/25/2012 4:30:51 PM PDT by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: max americana
he is the OLDER brother. I don’t even talk to him unless it’s required

Same here. Older in this case definitely does not mean wiser. Example: he hates Bristol Palin with a passion but cannot say why. He just says he doesn't like her. I have flooded his brain with the truth about Obama. His response was to say he isn't going to vote for Obama, that he will be writing in Ron Paul. When I asked what part of Ron Paul's platform appealed to him he couldn't answer. He said he considered Paul to be an honest man, more so than Obama or Romney.

It's clear he has no interest in talking to me so that's not a problem. And given that he recently unfriended me on Facebook, I don't have to talk to him at all. He and his family don't celebrate Christmas so that's not a problem either. So how rational is he? He thinks Michelle Obama should run for POTUS in 2016. lol!

34 posted on 10/25/2012 4:56:33 PM PDT by South40 ("Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance." - Barack Hussein Obama - Cairo, Egypt, June 4, 2009.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Random genetic mutations occur.


35 posted on 10/25/2012 5:23:32 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (The Glove don't fit, but it's better than a burqa.)
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To: GOPsterinMA; fieldmarshaldj; Impy; Clintonfatigued; Clemenza; BillyBoy; BlackElk; DarthVader; ...
>> “Where I part company with some FReepers is that I believe (aside from the psychological dysfunctional component) there is a genetic aspect as well (again, still dysfunctional) for many.” Completely agree. I remember going to grade school with a couple girls that were boys and vice-versa. We knew they were gays back then, period. They were born that way. A couple of them had normal siblings. And like I posted here before, some of suspected gays have been looked up on Facebook and “SURPRISE”/s they have “life partners”. Something went wrong with the sperm milkshake/egg landing field hand-off in those cases. <<

I'm not in the "they were automatically born that way and can't help it" camp. Some people may be naturally effeminate and have a disposition to fall into a homosexual category later in life, but I don't think there's some gene you're born with that gives your mind no free will and ensures you will only be sexual attracted to the same gender.

Gays are right that homosexuality is no different that heterosexuality, and I think Impy and I noted the same thing -- in grade school, we didn't "know" we were straight. We didn't know anything about sex or even "felt" like we should be with the opposite sex for unknown reasons. Girls were "icky" back then -- we weren't "born" attracted to females. Our sexual orientation didn't manifest itself until puberty. Children have no sexual orientation and don't understand that sort of thing. Sure there are grade school kids that naturally seem like few masculine girls and very feminine boys, but that doesn't "guarantee" they'll be gay some day. Perhaps a combination of factors such as environment can cause one feminine male who is more "comfortable" with the same sex to develop same sex attractions, whereas another feminine male who is more "comfortable" with the same sex will just become a metrosexual straight man who writes self-help books.

One of the people I know who claims he was "born gay" was married to a woman and had two (now teenage) daughters until he "discovered" he was "born gay" when he was 37 years old. Other prominent homosexuals like the "gay bishop" of New Hampshire, Vicky Gene Robinson, were given female names and raised by their parents to behave like girls, hence the conditioning is certainly part of the reason they developed a male-sex sexual orientation. And as a final argument, there are numerous well known "gay" celebrities who claim they were "born that way" and can't help it, only to suddenly become straight overnight when they end that relationship and get into a new environment -- without any "brainwashing" from anti-gay church groups (Ellen's former girlfriend, Anne Heche, for example)

On a global scale, it's similar how a lot of people might "naturally" have fascist tendencies and ideologies, but they won't develop into a genocidal maniac like Hitler unless you can replicate the economic conditions of 1930s German that would ALLOW that ideology to be taken to its most extreme degree. I think the "God made them that way" stuff is liberal propaganda, basically designed to force churches to endorse the gay agenda and promote homosexuality as healthy and normal (You can't discriminate against them when GOD made them that way!!")

Now, all that being said, if there's ONE issue on the gay culture war where I disagree with fellow conservatives, it's the argument over the national ban on allowing gays to donate blood. Liberals want blood donating bans to be based on overall sexual lifestyle and conservatives want to keep a blanket ban on anyone who's ever had gay sex. I had to look at the science on this one, and the facts are that this ban was put in place in the 1980s, during the height of the AIDS panic, when blood wasn't being screened carefully for diseases, and people in a homosexual lifestyle were far more likely to have tainted blood. The last part is still true, but the current federal guidelines are that ANY person, if they've ever engaged in sexual relations with a person of the same gender -- even ONCE since 1977 -- is banned from donating blood. I have to agree with the left on this one -- there are numerous people in gay relationships who are perfectly healthy, and numerous people who are 100% straight and have a far more reckless sex life because they're drug addicts, prostitutes, have constant one night stands without protection, etc. The guidelines for donating blood should be based entirely on high-risk behaviors of all sexual orientations, and not assume someone is automatically "high risk" if they ever had gay sex at any time in their life. Certainly a lot of "gays" should be totally banned from ever donating blood, but so should a lot of straights. It should be based on their overall actions, not what gender they did it with.

36 posted on 10/25/2012 7:50:28 PM PDT by BillyBoy ( Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; South40; GOPsterinMA; BillyBoy; AuH2ORepublican

Even worse is the “transgendered”, that is obviously a very serious mental illness that leads people to mutilate their genitals. And that’s the proscribed treatment! Insane.

It’s shame no one really tries to help other than churches who use prayer and not medical science. These are the only mental disorders that we are supposed to “accept”. No one tells depressed people to go ahead and stay sad, or tells scitzos to go ahead and keep believing they are King Arthur.

Is their a genetic factor to being gay? Almost certainly yes and a major factor at that. But not the only factor I’d say.

And as pointed out, some of those guys marry women and seem to have no trouble having kids, so they can’t be 100% gay unless you tell me they’re thinking of Brad Pitt every time they do the wife.

I read something once about this band that was all gay men and they talked about how much they liked having sex with all the (female) groupies.

Some people are genetically likely to be serial killers, they don’t necessarily have to be if someone could help them. (doesn’t seem to be any cure for that though). This “born that way” mantra is therefore invalid. The response is “so what?”. Some people are born deaf, should they decline treatment? (Believe it or not their are “militant deaf” people that say yes they should! Crazy)

As for blood donation, eh sorry I would not want any from a gay man. Charlie Sheen wouldn’t be a great choice either but still, no thanks, better safe than sorry.


37 posted on 10/26/2012 6:39:48 PM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Impy

I think about Geraldo when I do the wife.


38 posted on 10/26/2012 8:15:53 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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