Skip to comments.Senate Intel (R): We’ve been demanding these e-mails ...(Brett reads email sent 4 hours prio)
Posted on 10/25/2012 10:47:56 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
5 minutes into this clip Brett starts reading emails sent PRIOR to the attack with the EXPLOSIVE one sent just a few hours by Stevens BEFORE THE ATTACK:
Thanks to freeper RebelTex
I think this is the link you want:
Special Report Online: 10/24/12
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If the scoop from Reuters last night surprised Americans with the knowledge that the intel community knew that the Benghazi attack was not a spontaneous demonstration that spun out of control, no one was more surprised than Senate Intelligence Committee vice chair Saxby Chambliss. His committee has been requesting those e-mails for weeks, and Chambliss to Fox and Friends that the information in them shows why they demanded them in the first place.
At the very least, Brian Kilmeade asks, this shows a massive disconnect [between the intel community and the administration], doesnt it? No question, Chambliss answers, but hes more concerned about how the White House handled the issue. We got pushback, both from the White House and the intelligence community, early on. We couldnt figure it out. I mean, that was really strange because they never do that. Chambliss now wants hearings in the Senate to pursue why these e-mails, and perhaps other intel, have been held back from Congress:
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This points to a few possible conclusions. Either the White House and the intel community kept Congress out of the loop because they didnt want to admit that terrorists had successfully attacked an American diplomatic mission for the first time in fourteen years, or because they didnt know themselves what the data meant. Neither is particularly commendatory, although the latter looks a lot less dishonest. Nevertheless, despite having this detailed description of the attack and the fairly credible claim of credit for the attack from a leading terrorist network in the immediate area within two hours of the start of the attack, the White House chose to repeatedly claim that they had no evidence that the sacking was a planned terrorist attack for most of the next two weeks. That looks a lot more dishonest with every revelation that comes out in this issue.
That leaves the questions of the provenance of the revelations themselves. If the intel community was reticent about discussing what it knew and when it knew it, at least someone in that group wants the real story to come out. Those e-mails didnt get leaked by anyone who was in the Situation Room that night and received them, certainly.
Update: Dave Weigel pushes back against the assumption that the Obama administration argued that they had no evidence of terrorist attack:
In the same story that breaks the news and gives readers the e-mails, CBS News prints an unaired answer that Obama gave Steve Kroft on September 12. It was his first interview after the attacks.
Youre right that this is not a situation that was exactly the same as what happened in Egypt and my suspicion is that there are folks involved in this who were looking to target Americans from the start.
The next day, Obama was in Colorado, where he addressed the killings in Libya.
A couple of days ago, for four Americans were killed in an attack on our diplomatic post in Libya So what I want all of you to know is that we are going to bring those who killed our fellow Americans to justice. I want people around the world to hear me: To all those who would do us harm, no act of terror will go unpunished.
Obama didnt pretend that this was merely a protest that got out of hand. The trouble, when we look back at the timeline, is that reporters didnt really glom onto the Libya story for a few days. When they did, by the Sunday shows and September 19, you had administration spokespeople soft-peddling the target Americans from the start story.
However, by the time we get to Sunday, September 16th, we have Susan Rice saying this, which has been proven categorically false:
But based on the best information we have to date, what our assessment is as of the present is in fact what began spontaneously in Benghazi as a reaction to what had transpired some hours earlier in Cairo where, of course, as you know, there was a violent protest outside of our embassy
BOB SCHIEFFER: Mm-Hm.
SUSAN RICE: sparked by this hateful video. But soon after that spontaneous protest began outside of our consulate in Benghazi, we believe that it looks like extremist elements, individuals, joined in that in that effort with heavy weapons of the sort that are, unfortunately, readily now available in Libya post-revolution. And that it spun from there into something much, much more violent.
But our current best assessment, based on the information that we have at present, is that, in fact, what this began as, it was a spontaneous not a premeditated response to what had transpired in Cairo.
And Jay Carney saying this two days later at a White House press briefing, emphasis mine:
MR. CARNEY: No, Im saying that based on information that we our initial information, and that includes all information we saw no evidence to back up claims by others that this was a preplanned or premeditated attack; that we saw evidence that it was sparked by the reaction to this video. And that is what we know thus far based on the evidence, concrete evidence not supposition concrete evidence that we have thus far. But there is a lot that is under investigation here, and as more facts come to light, if they change that assessment, well make that clear. But theres an active investigation for a reason so that we actually get the facts and dont base our policy prescriptions on suppositions about what we think we know happened as opposed to what actually happened.
Q Would the administration still say that it was spontaneous?
MR. CARNEY: Based on the information that we have now, it was there was a reaction to the video there was protests in Cairo, then followed by protests elsewhere, including Benghazi, and that that was what led to the original unrest. The other factors here all factors but the other factors here, including participants in the unrest, participants in the violence, are under investigation. And the goal of that investigation is both to find out what happened and why, but also to track down and bring to justice those who killed four Americans. And were working with our Libyan counterparts to ensure that that happens, as the President committed it would.
Bear in mind that since this time, we have discovered that the State Department watched this unfold in real time and has video of the attack which is still hasnt shared with Congress. The CIA station chief told them in a cable 24 hours later that this was a terrorist attack, and that they even knew who had commanded it. Finally, we have last nights revelation that the Situation Room got e-mails from the intel community while the attack was underway that clearly gave evidence that this was no spontaneous demonstration gone amok. They had plenty of evidence concrete evidence, to use Jay Carneys terminology that the sacking of the consulate and assassination of our Ambassador was a planned terrorist attack.
Second link is crashing for me.
I think their new meme is that everyone knew about these emails at the time. That they were never a secret. lol.
does anyone have texts of these emails?
BTW, were calls made from the embassy during the attack? You know these are all recorded. Can someone in Congress demand the recorded calls be released??!
I just watched/listened to the Obama UN speech on Sept 25, 2012. He absolutely and repeatedly refers to a root cause of the violence in Benghazi being the video slandering the prophet of islam.
He does it from the 13 minute mark through the 21 minute mark in the 30 minute speech. The key quote is at 20:36.
Thanks again for the links.
images of the emails at the above link
Now that was yesterday.
The embarrassing failure to provide security before the attack had to be covered up, they had to deflect the issue, they had to put attention elsewhere. They made the Romney remarks, which were right on, into a “gaffe” and that became the issue. Then it was the Youtube video.
Highlighting that video brought attention to it, causing deadly riots in Pakistan that killed 23. Obama and Hillary even ran a paid TV ad there apologizing for the video.
They did all of this as a CYA because an election was coming up. That is the only real reason.
Wonder if the one Brett was reading is on the list .
It was sent prior to the attack.
To make it short and sweet so people can read it without eyes glazing over we need a concise compilation... this is my first draft attempt...
Sounds like we need to deport Obama and a few others to Pakistan as accessories to murder of 23 people.
Assuming they are chronolical.
But maybe CBS does not have the one just prior to the attack.
Obama has successfully run out the clock
Thanks for the post. I’ve been having my ears lowered, then food shopping. Just getting back on the site. Will download the pdf soon.
But Brett Baer says they are going to rework what they did before on Benghazi....they are going to do a full court press to have it ready this weekend.
I am guessing the emails prior to the attack will be featured.
Brett just said 8 million watched the first report.
without the emails I wrote my take:
I might edit it after reading the PDF
How convenient for CBS.
Or maybe Fox has more friends.
I believe that would have been the Critical Incident Report. The first alarm sent by someone at the consulate. That is what Col. Hunt said would be automatically sent to the WH situation room, Pentagon, State Dept., CIA and every CentCom around the world.
Judge Jeanine Investigates Benghazi Gate Part 4 - 10/20/2012 video 6:53
Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer (U.S. Army ret.), former CIA Station Chief Gary Burtson and former CIA operative Mike Baker
Holy smokes. 16.9 megabyte for only two little email transactions. Saved the pdf. Yeah. Looks like the terrorist attacked started prior to 4:05
I wonder about the 8 million.
Was that the viewers on Fox News and did it include all those that watched it on you tube?
NOt sure how they are able to measure.
"Second link is crashing for me."
Ok, I think this is the 2nd link you want, LOLOL: