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Poll: [Jerry] Brown tax hike falling short
UT San Diego ^ | Oct 25 2012 | UT San Diego

Posted on 10/25/2012 1:20:41 PM PDT by WilliamIII

Gov. Jerry Brown’s initiative that would raise taxes to help pay for schools and local public safety programs continues to lose ground among likely voters, slipping below the all-important majority approval mark for the first time in a new poll.

The survey by the nonpartisan Public Policy Institute of California released Wednesday night found that support for Brown’s Proposition 30 stands at 48 percent, posing a challenge for the governor to win over a majority of voters with less than two weeks before they go to the polls Nov. 6. Forty-four percent are opposed.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: braking; california; jerrybrown; moonbeam; prop30; taxhike

1 posted on 10/25/2012 1:20:46 PM PDT by WilliamIII
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To: WilliamIII

Political measurement aside, wait until he sees the failed fiscal measurement revealed by a decrease in tax revenues.


2 posted on 10/25/2012 1:25:35 PM PDT by immadashell
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To: WilliamIII

If only the jerks who vote for this crap could be the ones who have to pay for it...


3 posted on 10/25/2012 1:33:33 PM PDT by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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To: WilliamIII

Whew. the last thing the state’s employed needs is higher taxes.. it’s bad enough they quartered and half-dollared to death already. for what? a busted system, worried more about foreign interest than its own citizens. let it rot.

Vote NO! and Damn NO!! to all parcel taxes and tax measure seeking to ‘Feed theBeast!’ Within!!

For years , time and time again, the vote has been ‘rigged’ and bought and stolen thru coercion and subterfuge, all of which has stolen the California Dream, today’s dream is more a nightmare for many as the state slowly bellies up and prepares to slip beneath the waves


4 posted on 10/25/2012 1:34:53 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: WilliamIII

Groucho votes no....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHash5takWU


5 posted on 10/25/2012 1:46:04 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: WilliamIII

But, but, but, it’s for the chhiiilllldddreeeen!

Anyone that approves this sneak around tax increase is nuts!


6 posted on 10/25/2012 1:47:43 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (The barely bare berry bear formerly known as Ursus Arctos Horribilis.)
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To: WilliamIII

Could it be that Californians, who have never seen an education proposition they didn’t like, are finally getting fed up with getting no bang for their buck?

No on 30


7 posted on 10/25/2012 1:50:33 PM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: MarineBrat

“If only the jerks who vote for this crap could be the ones who have to pay for it...”

That’s the idea, it’s class warfare! Make the “haves” pay for sh!t for the “have nots.” But it’s worse than that because Prop 30 receipts go into the General Fund so Moonbeam and the RATs can use it any way they please. Most likely to shore up the PE union pensions, but none of it goes to the schools to benefit the students.


8 posted on 10/25/2012 1:51:12 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: WilliamIII

Since when has there been a referendum that couldn’t be reversed by a judge?


9 posted on 10/25/2012 1:52:42 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (the mature Christian is almost impossible to offend)
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To: WilliamIII

This is PRC, the People’s Republic of California, we’re talking about.


10 posted on 10/25/2012 2:07:29 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: WilliamIII

lol Kalipornia voting against a tax hike, wow.


11 posted on 10/25/2012 2:07:58 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: WilliamIII

the unfortunate payback the politicians will invoke on a prop 30 defeat will be placed upon the very working people who pay the taxes in the first place and not on those dead beats who the politicians give our tax money to in order to get their votes as to stay in office. Due to the lack of immediate consequences for the politicians who do that is the reason CA and the Fed gov is broke. It’s like waiting to call the cops on an unarmed bank robber after watching him take 3 hours to empty the vault. Once the money is gone, it’s effing gone and the unaccountable politicians are still in office.


12 posted on 10/25/2012 2:26:13 PM PDT by drypowder
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To: WilliamIII

Is there any tax scam that comes out that isn’t “for education”??


13 posted on 10/25/2012 2:31:02 PM PDT by Tula Git
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To: All

On my way home from Sacramento a talk radio caller said she heard Jerry Brown give a speech on Prop 30. Behind him was the head of the high speed rail.

This money is not marked exclusively for schools. Brown is using schools to sucker people into passing more taxes.

And what does go to schools will cover benefits. Brown refuses to cut any unions benefits or cost to California for illegals at 21 billion plus a year.

This is a Brown payback to his unions who own him just as the high speed rail is.


14 posted on 10/25/2012 2:41:29 PM PDT by OafOfOffice (W.C:Socialism:Philosophy of failure,creed of ignorance,gospel of envy,the equal sharing of misery)
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To: GeronL

Contrary to poular opinion, there is actually a precedent for that. Does the phrase “Proposition 13” mean anything to you?


15 posted on 10/25/2012 2:42:29 PM PDT by seanmerc
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To: seanmerc

Prop 13 was what, 30 years ago? It wouldn’t pass today. Not a chance.


16 posted on 10/25/2012 2:49:44 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: All

Oh I forgot, some very big donations coming in from Republicans to pass this. Many of them farmers.

Seems a deal may have been made if they back Brown on prop 30, Brown will pass the “Delta tunnels” twin tunnels. The show went on to say Brown will never pass anything for them because Feinstein has done the very same thing and screwed the them everytime.

Kind of scary these politicians are so blatant and also scary some mega wealthy people are so dumb.

I believe Brown has robbed other coffers and if this does not pass he is in deep trouble. So he is willing to say anything even if he risks huge repercussions.


17 posted on 10/25/2012 3:01:06 PM PDT by OafOfOffice (W.C:Socialism:Philosophy of failure,creed of ignorance,gospel of envy,the equal sharing of misery)
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To: hattend
Could it be that Californians, who have never seen an education proposition they didn’t like, are finally getting fed up with getting no bang for their buck?

We're at the bottom of the tests, yet our teachers are some of the highest paid AND get a generous pension after years of not teaching the kids.

I liked how the schools were run in Texas better - teachers did not get a pension so those that were lousy at it got to leave and find something they could be good at. Those that were teaching from the heart stayed because they got more than just money for it. Not that Texas is ranking all that great in test scores, what with pandering to the illegals also, but at least thetax payers didn't get bilked.
18 posted on 10/25/2012 3:26:20 PM PDT by CottonBall
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To: Lurker
Prop 13 was what, 30 years ago? It wouldn’t pass today. Not a chance.

True. And on top of that, idiot voters are adding to their prop 30 based property taxes by passing all sorts of bond measures. We pay about 1.5% now instead of 1% because of all that crap.
19 posted on 10/25/2012 3:29:44 PM PDT by CottonBall
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To: OafOfOffice
Kind of scary these politicians are so blatant and also scary some mega wealthy people are so dumb.

That is one thing that makes California stand out above all other states, the politicians have become so blatant, and the voters stupid beyond belief. And I mean politicians right down to county and city level.

20 posted on 10/25/2012 3:42:50 PM PDT by Reddon
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To: WilliamIII

Tide.

Turning.


21 posted on 10/25/2012 4:37:43 PM PDT by LUV W (All my heroes wear camos!)
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To: Lurker
Prop 13 was what, 30 years ago?

As recently as 2009, the voters shot down another tax increase Prop1A (actually an extension of a 'temporary' tax)

http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/California_Proposition_1A,_Temporary_Tax_Increase_%28May_2009%29

All California freepers need to get out and vote regardless how the state votes for national offices. In addition to voting down Prop 30, it is critically important that we keep the RATS from a 2/3 majority in the legislature. Also, it would be nice to pass Prop 32 to defund the unions but even if that does not happen, the OP shows that we have a chance of defeating Prop30.
22 posted on 10/25/2012 4:59:05 PM PDT by fifedom
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To: seanmerc

It will be fascinating to see where this and those 230 local proposals go on election day


23 posted on 10/25/2012 5:38:33 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: MarineBrat
If only the jerks who vote for this crap could be the ones who have to pay for it...

That's RACIST!

24 posted on 10/25/2012 6:10:35 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: WilliamIII
Gov. Jerry Brown’s initiative that would raise taxes to help pay for schools and local public safety programs continues to lose ground among likely voters, slipping below the all-important majority approval mark for the first time in a new poll.

There, I fixed it.

25 posted on 10/26/2012 1:30:30 AM PDT by Redcloak (A founding member of Drunkards for Romney)
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To: drypowder
I always wonder about why in NY the state retirees don't pay state income taxes....

when indeed the ones getting all the freebies start having to pay for them, this over spending will stop...

26 posted on 10/26/2012 1:39:05 AM PDT by cherry
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