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Obama Supporters Rally Around Anti-Mormonism
Legal Insurrection ^ | October 25,2012 | Anne Sorack

Posted on 10/25/2012 3:54:15 PM PDT by lbryce

What would you think if you were told that the most bigoted, intolerant, hateful, and xenophobic political messages this election cycle are being spread by Obama supporters?

From ridiculing and disrespecting the Mormon religion to spreading secretly taped videos recorded by an Obama supporter in a Mormon church, those on the left are sanctioning this particular form of bigotry because it’s all for the cause: Obama.

Nowhere is this more obvious than in the media, where pages upon pages have been devoted to Romney’s religion. Vicious, anti-Mormon rhetoric, ramping up in the final days leading up to the election, has been spread by MSNBC and CNN hosts, the New York Times (they have devoted an entire section of their website to articles about Mormonism), Washington Post, and the Daily Beast’s Andrew Sullivan, to name a few. Yesterday, Breitbart’s John Nolte revealed that Gloria Allred’s October surprise client is spreading anti-Mormon hate around the Internet.

In one recent segment, which I took notes on right after the Tampa convention, Rachel Maddow, having attacked the religion in various ways and perhaps sensing her own intolerance, offhandedly remarked that everything she had said was “ok” because Romney mentioned his faith in his convention speech, rendering it fair game.

A quick perusal of the search results for “Mormon” on Salon.com, which resulted in 5 pages of results, reveals such headlines as “Is Mormon underwear magic,” ”What we should ask Romney about Mormonism,” and “Ann: Mormon missions are just like military service!”

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I've posted about this many times about how the liberal left-wing mindset is not merely about the misguided, convoluted perspective in which they see the world. Those who espouse a left wing-wing liberal philosophy may be victims of a degenerate pathology manifesting anti-social, intolerant behavior, lack of discipline, where anything goes and the end justify the means among other uncouth, immoral traits.

The revoltingly obscene 'Bush is Hitler' meme is the quintessential example of the sort of demented, anything goes type of behavior I'm talking about. Another example is the Million Big Bird March, the fate of which I am not aware of, whether it occurred or not,but was very much alive last week as the liberal response to Romney not supporting "Sesame Street".

Would marching a million Big Bird characters across Washington, DC be a rational way to protest Romney's lack of support for Sesame Street programming? Maybe they somehow temporarily gained some small sense of sanity and rethought the idea.

Last week, I posted two threads about liberal excess in the manner in which they manifest their troubled personas specifically from two threads at Twitchy, a site that follows twitter comments, citing examples where liberals were quoted making extreme statements about their animosity towards VP nominee Ryan, many using the as of yet unheard of phrase, hatef*ck, a term no doubt created by a liberal to describe pathological hatred towards VP nominee Ryan the day after the VP debate and the thread in which liberals advised black supporters of Romney to kill themselves.

And here we see a similar example of the type of left-wing, liberal pathology I spoke of, where certain traits common among liberals are manifested with liberals joining in together in tacky, tasteless, even extreme, anti-social behavior not ever witnessed among other groups such as Republicans, conservatives, etc.

1 posted on 10/25/2012 3:54:24 PM PDT by lbryce
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To: lbryce

I’ll take a mormon over a muslim.


2 posted on 10/25/2012 3:55:35 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: lbryce

They’re about out of options. I doubt they thought they’d have to go that level...but they’re about to be thrown out on their face.

...so they’re desperate.


3 posted on 10/25/2012 3:57:33 PM PDT by BobL (You can live each day only once. You can waste a few, but don't waste too many.)
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To: lbryce

Over at the DUmp there is plenty of anti-mormon bigotry. That liberal tolerance just shines, doesn’t it!


4 posted on 10/25/2012 3:58:12 PM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard
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To: lbryce

Mormonism is a creepy micro-managing, guilt loading, money sucking, hypocrisy breeding cult.

Sort of like collectivism. In fact, early Mormonism was a collective, until they saw that it didn’t work.

But this whole thing of the Obama collectivists dogging on Willard’s religion? Get on now.


5 posted on 10/25/2012 4:00:20 PM PDT by lurk
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To: lbryce

Disgusting, but no surprise. Leftists hate Christianity and love the middle eastern death cult that wants to take over all countries in the world by violent means.


6 posted on 10/25/2012 4:05:09 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Why does the left LOVE jihadis? (same goals: destroy Christianity))
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To: ilovesarah2012

Very interesting. I’m just in the process of rounding up antimormon websites, and most if not all seem to be democrats/far left.

One, in particular, have *omly* reams and reams of antimormon topics, but the whole of the front page is 9.11 and muslim insurrection videos.


7 posted on 10/25/2012 4:11:12 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
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To: I want the USA back
Disgusting, but no surprise. Leftists hate Christianity and love the middle eastern death cult that wants to take over all countries in the world by violent means.

Don't confuse Christianity and Mormonism, they are religions opposed to each other.

8 posted on 10/25/2012 4:15:55 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt Romney is a mixture of LBJ and Nixon, Obama is a mixture of LBJ and Jimmy Carter.)
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To: lbryce

The media slams Christianity all the time. Yet, they ORDER people to believe obama is a Christian and not a muslim. Now they’re trying to destroy Romney over his religion. Why would we expect anything else?


9 posted on 10/25/2012 4:18:00 PM PDT by Terry Mross
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To: Hardraade
Very interesting. I’m just in the process of rounding up antimormon websites, and most if not all seem to be democrats/far left.

Be sure and include ALL of the Christian sites representing various denominations, from Catholic to Protestant, to Greek Orthodox, and Billy Graham's site (temporarily removed) labeling them "cult" as do the Orthodox, and in a more subtle way, the Catholics.

10 posted on 10/25/2012 4:20:12 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt Romney is a mixture of LBJ and Nixon, Obama is a mixture of LBJ and Jimmy Carter.)
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To: lurk
Its not creepy. Its not micro-managing. Its not guilt loaded nor money sucking. And certainly not hypocrisy breeding.

It is a Church. We believe in Christ. He is the Son of the Living God. We serve others. We do our best to keep Christ's commandments. We seek to become full of charity toward others.

But you are right about the hypocrisy of the liberals trying to use intolerance to further their political agenda.
11 posted on 10/25/2012 4:21:10 PM PDT by LukeSW (The truth shall make you free!)
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To: lbryce
What would you think if you were told that the most bigoted, intolerant, hateful, and xenophobic political messages this election cycle are being spread by Obama supporters?

I would think "well, duh!"

12 posted on 10/25/2012 4:23:52 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: Hardraade

Enjoy the research.

You will find people arguing “facts” that they cannot prove while claiming to possess spiritual superiority over the other religion. The bigots would be funny, if they didn’t come off as so mad.


13 posted on 10/25/2012 4:34:35 PM PDT by Loud Mime (What really matters?)
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To: LukeSW
We do our best to keep Christ's commandments

As opposed to those who believe they are "saved" from obedience to God's orders and the true test of one's character.

Interesting.

14 posted on 10/25/2012 4:40:11 PM PDT by Loud Mime (What really matters?)
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To: lbryce; All
Give me a break...the premise of this article...

...As if FR or ANY conservative sites haven't concentrated heavily upon Obama's Muslim associations/ties...or didn't focus upon Rev. Wright in both '08 and '12 election cycles...

Is that "bigotry" to (vs. Islam)???? (vs. Wright)???

No, it, isn't...

But this writer -- and some posters -- have trouble maintaining ANY sense of inconsistency.

15 posted on 10/25/2012 4:42:45 PM PDT by Colofornian ( >)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Remember- this is the same President who claimed that the Catholic church was NOT a religious institution!!


16 posted on 10/25/2012 4:45:55 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: ansel12

Like this, you mean?

http://brothernathanaelfoundation.org/

No lack of weirdos out there.


17 posted on 10/25/2012 4:45:55 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
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To: Loud Mime; All
You will find people arguing “facts” that they cannot prove while claiming to possess spiritual superiority over the other religion. The bigots would be funny, if they didn’t come off as so mad.

(He mimed, claiming some sort of "spiritual superiority" over critics of Mormonism...Loud Mime's intolerance -- "bigotry" if you will -- of any and all critics of Mormonism...[keep in mind Billy Graham called Mormonism a "cult" on his Web site for YEARS before removing it recently]...would be funny if he wasn't so upset with people critiquing Mormonism)

18 posted on 10/25/2012 4:46:40 PM PDT by Colofornian ( >)
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To: lurk; All
In fact, early Mormonism was a collective, until they saw that it didn’t work.

Yup...'Twas a "revelation" to Joseph Smith & ensuing Lds "prophets" to practice what they called "The United Order."

Communist communities set up all over Utah.

In the late 19th century, a Marxist visited one of those communities...was influenced by that and integrated it into his books...which was read by the Soviet Marxist dictator...there ya...Mormon communism affecting Soviet Communism around the world over 100 years ago!

19 posted on 10/25/2012 4:51:01 PM PDT by Colofornian ( >)
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To: LukeSW; lurk
I don't understand the hatred of Mormons. Regardless of what we "Christians" think we know about their beliefs,by all appearances they live according to the teachings of Jesus Christ.

Having said that, we are not electing a Pope, but a President.

Give me a President who lives by the morals taught in the Mormon Church ANY DAY.

20 posted on 10/25/2012 4:51:54 PM PDT by KittenClaws (You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: Hardraade

You can choose to mock Christianity in service to Mormonism, but I meant something like this Catholic site.

HERE IS THE CATHOLIC TEACHING ON MORMONISM:

“Mormons are not Christians. The Mormons will claim to be Christian because they claim to follow Christ, and believe in the Bible. They say that Jesus is a god, but not THE God. They also believe that Lucifer is the brother of Jesus, and neither do they believe that there is fire in Hell.”

“Mormons say that Christ came to teach the truth, but that it was lost when the Apostles dispersed. No one had the truth for over 1800 years until God saw fit to enlighten Joseph Smith in 1823 (that is why they baptize all the dead people who missed out). Besides their strange historical mis-accounts, Mormons also have a warped theology.”

“By following all the rules and ordinances of God here, Mormon men and women have the potential of also becoming gods”

“Mormons believe that there are many worlds and many gods. Each god is similar to God the Father, having the same powers and omnipotence, and even being able to create their own worlds. “Heavenly Father” is only the name of the god who rules over this world.”

http://www.catholicapologetics.info/apologetics/protestantism/mormns.html


21 posted on 10/25/2012 4:53:54 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt Romney is a mixture of LBJ and Nixon, Obama is a mixture of LBJ and Jimmy Carter.)
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To: KittenClaws
Regardless of what we "Christians" think we know about their beliefs,by all appearances they live according to the teachings of Jesus Christ.

That is how the religion of Mormonism was designed in 1800s America, it was meant to appear as Christian, at the first stages, it is how they recruit, they even carry the bible along with the Book of Mormon.

Mitt Romney is currently in the process of becoming God. Read post 21.

22 posted on 10/25/2012 5:00:24 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt Romney is a mixture of LBJ and Nixon, Obama is a mixture of LBJ and Jimmy Carter.)
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To: lurk

I think you’ve been buying into some of the many false claims anti-Momons make. Creepy is a matter of opinion, I find the idea of eating something that has magically turned into human flesh and blood kind of creepy. As for micro-managing, that isn’t right at all, the philosophy of the church is to teach correct principles and let people govern themselves. Tithing and offerings are voluntary and while every church has hypocrites in it, the church itself conducts itself with honor.

Also, the united order was very different than collectivism, and if you look in the early part of Acts you can see the apostles doing the same thing.


23 posted on 10/25/2012 5:00:43 PM PDT by Grig
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To: ansel12

Mormons believe in Jesus Christ of Nazareth as the Son of God, that he was born of a virgin, lived a perfect life, performed miracles, suffered for our sins, died on the cross, rose on the third day, and that only through him can be return to be with God.

That makes us Christians, and all the other differences don’t change that. We use the Bible and in fact a recent study shows the average Mormon is more knowledgeable about the Bible than the average Evangelical.


24 posted on 10/25/2012 5:03:55 PM PDT by Grig
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To: Grig

Look, I’ve lived in UT over 40 years. I was born here. Let’s not play the “You’ve got little understanding of Mormonism” card.


25 posted on 10/25/2012 5:06:17 PM PDT by lurk
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To: Loud Mime
As opposed to those who believe they are>b> "saved" from obedience to God's orders and the true test of one's character. Interesting.

So, those who are 'saved from obedience' (don't recall that teaching in the bible) can just go and disregard everything God has asked them to do and expect all the blessing of heaven? Interesting.

26 posted on 10/25/2012 5:07:12 PM PDT by Grig
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To: Grig

Every Christian church looks at your religion and says the same thing, it is not Christianity, that you use and distort “Jesus” in a bizarre, untrue fashion.

See post 21.


27 posted on 10/25/2012 5:12:01 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt Romney is a mixture of LBJ and Nixon, Obama is a mixture of LBJ and Jimmy Carter.)
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To: lbryce; everyone


Hush yer Mouth about Black Liberation Theology!

28 posted on 10/25/2012 5:13:45 PM PDT by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: ansel12

Actually, I’m not.

I’m just saying that there’s plenty of sects out there, some bad and some not so bad. As bad goes, the Mormons are nonstarters.


29 posted on 10/25/2012 5:18:06 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
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To: Hardraade

Mormonism is a unique, new religion, a polytheistic religion designed to appear as Christian, while it’s adherents strive to become Gods, as our God is to us, it even places the bible next to their own holy book to advance the Christian theme.

Mormonism is the worst of the bad, it doesn’t want to kill you, it wants to steal your soul while whispering Jesus in your ear.


30 posted on 10/25/2012 5:26:05 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt Romney is a mixture of LBJ and Nixon, Obama is a mixture of LBJ and Jimmy Carter.)
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To: lbryce

religious bigotry?

Had to read the post to see that it wasn’t a holdover from the last go-around about good ‘ol Mike Huckabee. He spewed some pretty nasty stuff in his day.


31 posted on 10/25/2012 5:39:04 PM PDT by ASOC (What are you doing now that Mexico has become OUR Chechnya?)
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How many angels on the head of a pin, and all that...


32 posted on 10/25/2012 5:41:35 PM PDT by Paradox (I want Obama defeated. Period.)
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To: ansel12

That is how the religion of Mormonism was designed in 1800s America, it was meant to appear as Christian, at the first stages, it is how they recruit, they even carry the bible along with the Book of Mormon.

Mitt Romney is currently in the process of becoming God. Read post 21.

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Post 21 provides Catholic teachings concerning the Mormon faith. Which inadvertently makes my point.

Look at it this way. Don’t Catholics hate the bigotry shown them by those who lack understanding?

To make my point. The Nicene Creed of the Catholic Church states that they are “the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church”. But my childhood faith taught me otherwise.

The faith of my childhood did not understand praying to saints, sprinkling instead of immersion, confession to a priest rather than to Christ in prayer and a priest offering absolution, which is Christ’s alone to give - heresy! The “joke” was: “a Catholic can do anything on Saturday night because come Sunday, a man will forgive him”.

I hold no condemnation for the Catholic faith or the Mormon faith. I did not say what I said to be ugly, but to point out that Catholics have no room to critisize what they do not understand, while asking people to understand them.

The Catholic Church has its own teachings, which I respect and admire, though the Church of my childhood believes that praying to Saints is not Christian, because Jesus said “the only way to the Father is through Me”.

My point? Not to condemn the Catholic Church at all - nor the Mormon Church.


33 posted on 10/25/2012 5:48:14 PM PDT by KittenClaws (You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: lurk; Wyrd bið ful aræd

“In fact, early Mormonism was a collective, until they saw that it didn’t work.”

ALL early pioneers practiced ‘collectivism’. It was the only way a community could survive. The Mormons just did it better than most, ie, the first preppers.

Wyrd bið ful aræd: Looks like we don’t have to visit the DUmp to get the liberal bigoted talking points. There’s plenty here to go around.


34 posted on 10/25/2012 5:57:15 PM PDT by panaxanax
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To: KittenClaws
Post 21 didn't prove your point because ALL Christian denominations agree with it.

Mormonism is a religion that Christianity is in full agreement about, no Christian denomination, Protestant, Greek Orthodox, or Catholic accepts it as Christian, and EVERY denomination requires Christian baptism for a Mormon convert.

Lutherans, Baptist, Methodists, Presbyterians, etc., all on the same page about the polytheistic religion where God was just a man like Mitt and who Mitt will become to the worshipers on HIS own planet as our God is to us.

35 posted on 10/25/2012 5:58:40 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt Romney is a mixture of LBJ and Nixon, Obama is a mixture of LBJ and Jimmy Carter.)
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To: ansel12
Post 21 didn't prove your point because ALL Christian denominations agree with it.

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And you have throughly studied and been a member of ALL Christian denominations to such an extent that you speak for them and their members?

Funny that. I don't remember such bigotry in the ranks of my church - maybe you missed one.

36 posted on 10/25/2012 6:08:34 PM PDT by KittenClaws (You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: panaxanax; lurk; Wyrd bið ful aræd; All
ALL early pioneers practiced ‘collectivism’. It was the only way a community could survive. The Mormons just did it better than most, ie, the first preppers.

Total nonsense.

Are you just bluffing your way thru this post, thinking no one will call you on it, Panaxanax?

Well, I'm calling...

Lds author George W. Givens was an author in good standing with the Lds church. He wrote several books, one of which is entitled: 500 More Little-Known Facts in Mormon History

Givens was writing about the Mormon United Order -- as follows:

"When Brigham Young etablished Orderville and similar United Orders, John Taylor" [ensuing Lds "prophet" to Young] "was less than enthusiastic. He realized that enterprises such as Orderville were pure communism and not the law of consecration." (p. 169)

The Mormon "United Order" was a simple redistribution of wealth system -- community by community -- and imposed by a religious hierarchy.

Lds "prophet" John Taylor realized no scriptural basis for United Orders & dismantled the one in Orderville (he also cited other reasons such as "Our relations with the world and our own imperfections prevent the establishment of this system at the present time, as was stated by Joseph in an early day, it cannot yet be carried out.") (Givens' book, p. 169)

If, as you lamely claim, Pan, "ALL early pioneers" practiced what the Mormons did...then why did 3rd Lds "prophet" John Taylor cite precisely that relationship that Mormons had "with the world" as one of the reasons for the disestablishment of the United Order? If "the world" was operating on the same basis, it would have reinforced what the Mormons were doing...not countered it!!!

37 posted on 10/25/2012 6:15:04 PM PDT by Colofornian ( >)
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To: ansel12

Really. I think my Precious Bodily Fluids are quite safe, thank you. Even if there’s a Mormon in the White House.


38 posted on 10/25/2012 6:15:32 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
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To: KittenClaws; ansel12; All
Post 21 provides Catholic teachings concerning the Mormon faith. Which inadvertently makes my point. Look at it this way. Don’t Catholics hate the bigotry shown them by those who lack understanding?

Well, the tie 'tween Catholics & "bigotry" inadvertently makes my point -- as follows:

"Bigot" is etymologically tied to "Beguines." It was used abusively in French for the Beguines, members of a Roman Catholic lay sisterhood, with the meaning of attaching "excessive devotion" to this sisterhood...(yeah, the devoted do get slapped around a bit).

So, “bigot” in its original usage was tied to perceived intolerance. (I don’t know if the Beguines were actually intolerant or not). The Beguines were probably at least perceived as practicing "spiritual one-upsmanship"--and others didn't like it--they felt looked down upon. Perhaps they felt scorned because such sisterhoods tended to isolate themselves more and because of that, the Beguines perhaps were perceived as being spiritually snooty ("we don't like how excessively devoted they are").

But to wind this back to what I said. "Bigot" is originally tied to "excessive devotion." I suppose it's possible that the Beguines were indeed "excessively devoted." (It's also just as possible that the other Catholics' perception was largely wrong...but once a reputation develops...). But let's just say they were excessively devoted. If that's the name-slinging you wish to engage in, KittenClaws, I'll just recommend others the high road and claim a historical context.

But if you want to insist on a contemporary usage of that term -- that "bigot" means "intolerant" -- then you need to answer this Q. Because aren't you showing religious intolerance toward critics of Mormons? On what grounds is your "intolerance" so "allowable" and therefore comes as across as "elitist," whereas anyone else's perceived religious "intolerance" is called into question?

39 posted on 10/25/2012 6:20:50 PM PDT by Colofornian ( >)
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To: Colofornian

Back at it......antiAmerican bigotry at it’s worst.

You are offensive to all Americans


40 posted on 10/25/2012 6:23:16 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: KittenClaws; ansel12; All
My point? Not to condemn the Catholic Church at all - nor the Mormon Church.

Your point? You seemingly condemn critics of cults (Lds).

So...somebody who's negative about the Lds church draws your negativity in response.

The former "negative" apparently is -- to you -- taboo...but your religious negativity and intolerance of some religious critics is A-OK, eh???

Sounds like a typical liberal multi-cultural double-standard.

Let me guess: You went to a state high school and/or a secular college...where you were taught this double-standard...and accepted it...without critical eval.

41 posted on 10/25/2012 6:23:41 PM PDT by Colofornian ( >)
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To: Hardraade

You need to get away from being concerned about your “Precious Bodily Fluids” and relax enough to learn more from facts posted on these threads.


42 posted on 10/25/2012 6:31:23 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt Romney is a mixture of LBJ and Nixon, Obama is a mixture of LBJ and Jimmy Carter.)
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To: KittenClaws
And you have throughly studied and been a member of ALL Christian denominations to such an extent that you speak for them and their members? Funny that. I don't remember such bigotry in the ranks of my church - maybe you missed one.

You made the claim and the challenge, tell me which denomination yours is and I will see if I have it's teaching on Mormonism.

By the way, in a simple, honest exchange, why did you throw in "and their members?" ?

43 posted on 10/25/2012 6:37:23 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt Romney is a mixture of LBJ and Nixon, Obama is a mixture of LBJ and Jimmy Carter.)
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To: ansel12

Lol. Here’s another of Nathanael’s sites for you, and one of the Antimormons:

http://www.realzionistnews.com/

http://www.stopthemormons.com/


44 posted on 10/25/2012 6:41:15 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
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To: bert

Iow...you’re intolerant toward my religious views...and therefore are “bigoted” toward them...go ahead...just say it...per your own standard...


45 posted on 10/25/2012 6:42:28 PM PDT by Colofornian ( >)
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To: Colofornian; All
". . .Q. Because aren't you showing religious intolerance toward critics of Mormons? On what grounds is your "intolerance" so "allowable" and therefore comes as across as "elitist," whereas anyone else's perceived religious "intolerance" is called into question

Is questioning intolerance - intolerance? Is showing a bigots own bigotry - bigotry?

If you feel I am an "elitist", I say you have the right to your own opinion - it does not affect mine. Your reaction tells me all I need to know.

By all means, vote for Obama and be done with the Mormon! (I tried to copy ansell2, but he/she does not register on auto-preview)

46 posted on 10/25/2012 6:43:46 PM PDT by KittenClaws (You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: Hardraade

I guess you are doing the best you can, but really, try to grow up a little bit.


47 posted on 10/25/2012 6:44:54 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt Romney is a mixture of LBJ and Nixon, Obama is a mixture of LBJ and Jimmy Carter.)
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To: ansel12
You made the claim and the challenge, tell me which denomination yours is and I will see if I have it's teaching on Mormonism.

No dear, YOU made the claim.

By the way, in a simple, honest exchange, why did you throw in "and their members?" ?

Because "Church" is a word for a gathering of people. It is not a religion or a building, but a body. You claim such religious knowledge, yet lack understanding of "church"?

48 posted on 10/25/2012 6:49:53 PM PDT by KittenClaws (You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: ansel12
You made the claim and the challenge, tell me which denomination yours is and I will see if I have it's teaching on Mormonism.

No dear, YOU made the claim.

By the way, in a simple, honest exchange, why did you throw in "and their members?" ?

Because "Church" is a word for a gathering of people. It is not a religion or a building, but a body. You claim such religious knowledge, yet lack understanding of "church"?

49 posted on 10/25/2012 6:51:23 PM PDT by KittenClaws (You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: ansel12
You made the claim and the challenge, tell me which denomination yours is and I will see if I have it's teaching on Mormonism.

No dear, YOU made the claim.

By the way, in a simple, honest exchange, why did you throw in "and their members?" ?

Because "Church" is a word for a gathering of people. It is not a religion or a building, but a body. You claim such religious knowledge, yet lack understanding of "church"?

50 posted on 10/25/2012 6:51:56 PM PDT by KittenClaws (You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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