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California Poll: 0 53%, R 41%
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Posted on 10/25/2012 5:15:37 PM PDT by Arthurio

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1 posted on 10/25/2012 5:15:38 PM PDT by Arthurio
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To: Arthurio

Since we know Romney will win by 5% nationwide we can assume that Obama probably has a slight lead in CA.


2 posted on 10/25/2012 5:17:37 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: All
half of whites (42% Obama, 52% Romney) support Romney.

In case people are wondering why California has moved so far to the left. Changing demographics.

I know it is popular to bash CA on this forum, but show some compassion for those of us trapped behind enemy lines.

3 posted on 10/25/2012 5:18:07 PM PDT by Arthurio
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To: Arthurio

This could be down to single digits by election day.


4 posted on 10/25/2012 5:19:35 PM PDT by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts so good.)
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To: Arthurio
but show some compassion for those of us trapped behind enemy lines.

Nobody's got a gun to your head. The borders to AZ, NV, and points north are all open and unguarded.

5 posted on 10/25/2012 5:21:56 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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"... I know it is popular to bash CA on this forum, but show some compassion for those of us trapped behind enemy lines."

If you're hoping we're going to launch some Chuck Norris 'Missing In Action' rescue mission, it could be a very long wait.

6 posted on 10/25/2012 5:23:05 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Semper Fi)
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To: Arthurio
Catholics prefer Obama.

Our shepherds are not spelling it out adequately. At least in my Diocese of Monterey.

7 posted on 10/25/2012 5:23:54 PM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Arthurio

2008 actuals: 61% to 37%.


8 posted on 10/25/2012 5:24:06 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Truth is a Weapon

Here’s the bright side,
If O’s really up that much in Ca, and behind nationally by 3 to 5 points that means landslide in the rest of the nation.


9 posted on 10/25/2012 5:24:21 PM PDT by resistance (abandon all hope and rational thought, become a democrat)
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To: Arthurio

Too many states are trending this way over the decades.

New Jersey was once up for grabs and is now a safe Blue state.

Pennsylvania (my home) is supposedly up for grabs, but I think it is still a safe Blue state based on the corruption and demographics.

Ohio is trending in this direction. While Romney might win this cycle, I see the road ahead for us very difficult.


10 posted on 10/25/2012 5:25:42 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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"I know it is popular to bash CA on this forum, but show some compassion for those of us trapped behind enemy lines."

Compassion for CA residents? On this forum?? Not a chance. Those of us born, raised, schooled, and worked for 30 years in CA are expected to up and move because of the politics.

11 posted on 10/25/2012 5:26:09 PM PDT by CatOwner
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To: resistance

Its very soft! He got 62% last time in CA so this is a fall of almost 10 percentage points off his last win there. His supporters are not that enthusiastic - and I bet it’ll be even closer there than the polls indicate.


12 posted on 10/25/2012 5:27:51 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved FrieGrnd Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: CatOwner

Don’t despair, the idiots who advise you to move to their paradise live in states where 47%+ of their neighbours prefer the Communist!


13 posted on 10/25/2012 5:28:40 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Arthurio

We got out why not you guys?.Its not going to get any better and everybody knows that.


14 posted on 10/25/2012 5:29:47 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: CatOwner

Don’t despair, the idiots who advise you to move to their paradise live in states where 47%+ of their neighbours prefer the Communist!


15 posted on 10/25/2012 5:30:56 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: CatOwner

I know how you feel. I live in Maryland.

Born and raised here, my family came here in the 1600’s I am not about to leave, but the Democrats have the power here. We are fighting though.


16 posted on 10/25/2012 5:31:00 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Arthurio
In case people are wondering why California has moved so far to the left. Changing demographics.

Correct. If only white people were voting, the Democratic party would lose decisively even in California.

Unfortunately, demographics are moving rapidly against us. More and more states will look increasingly like California demographics-wise. Unless we can figure out a way to win a higher share of minority (Hispanic) voters, in another generation (or less) we will be hard pressed to win even Texas.

17 posted on 10/25/2012 5:31:03 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Arthurio

If you’re lucky, maybe a giant tidal wave will sweep in and wash away all of the fruits, nuts, and flakes that infest the california coast. Maybe then could california could reclaim its title as the golden state. Such a shame that a wonderful state has been dragged down that far by liberal minions.


18 posted on 10/25/2012 5:32:48 PM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: Arthurio

If all the undecideds break for Romney, Obama wins California by 53 to 47 percent. According to Gallup, however, Obama’s approval in California is only 50.1 percent.


19 posted on 10/25/2012 5:33:53 PM PDT by WashingtonSource
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points north are all open and unguarded.

Not so sure about that, they hate Californians in Washington and Oregon, I understand they are considering armed border stops.

20 posted on 10/25/2012 5:34:07 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (Obama Lied, Stevens died.)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

That breaks my heart.


21 posted on 10/25/2012 5:34:32 PM PDT by jersey117
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To: CatOwner
Compassion for CA residents? On this forum?? Not a chance. Those of us born, raised, schooled, and worked for 30 years in CA are expected to up and move because of the politics.

Someone has to be on the front lines - I guess it's us. And there is nothing like our "fellow conservatives" for wishing we'd fall off into the ocean.

Dependable. Reliable. Kinda almost gives you the warm fuzzies after a dozen years or so.

22 posted on 10/25/2012 5:34:47 PM PDT by SCalGal (Friends don't let friends donate to H$U$, A$PCA, or PETA.)
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To: Arthurio

This place, where I too still live, is circling the drain.


23 posted on 10/25/2012 5:35:10 PM PDT by hauerf
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To: factoryrat

Reality is that California’s 55 electoral votes represent the singular reason any Democrat can be elected to the presidency. The GOP needs to start making inroads in the cities and California. It can be done but needs some creative thinking.


24 posted on 10/25/2012 5:36:59 PM PDT by paul544
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To: CatOwner

I think back to what Yoda said in Empire Strikes Back... “Slimy?! Mudhole?! My Home This Is!”


25 posted on 10/25/2012 5:37:23 PM PDT by Arthurio
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A question for whomever can answer it. How would the electorial votes pan out IF California let each congressional district pick (based upon voting in that district) to whom the districts EV goes? Would there be many or just a few EVs going to Romney.

I suspect that the “winner take all” system heavily favors a dem candidate. I think that CA probably has a great many congressional districts where a GOP pres candidate would win. Is this true?


26 posted on 10/25/2012 5:37:38 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: CatOwner
Those of us born, raised, schooled, and worked for 30 years in CA are expected to up and move because of the politics.

That's up to you. If you want to live in a socialist hellhole, stay in California. I'd leave if I were stuck there and had the means to get out, but I can understand why others choose a different path. There is an argument to be made that states like yours can never recover if all the good conservatives bail. Kinda like the brain drain Cuba has suffered.

27 posted on 10/25/2012 5:37:59 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: paul544

CA is just a gaudy more expensive version of MA. It no longer is a bellwether state.


28 posted on 10/25/2012 5:39:08 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved FrieGrnd Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Venturer
Yeah, I'm in New York. Family came to Mass in 1620’s, bought 300 acres of land here in upstate NY in the 1790’s and here I sit. Not leaving but not happy about state politics. At least my county is usually red.
29 posted on 10/25/2012 5:39:55 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: goldstategop

True, but can you imagine if we forced the Dems to defend it?


30 posted on 10/25/2012 5:40:39 PM PDT by paul544
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To: paul544

Exactly. Voter education is the way. No educated voter would vote for the Communist Muslim. Is it achievable? I doubt it.


31 posted on 10/25/2012 5:41:13 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Arthurio

We feel bad for ya, but you can always vote with your feet. I think Reagan said that.


32 posted on 10/25/2012 5:41:13 PM PDT by dforest
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To: Sola Veritas

California will NEVER award its EV to a GOP national popular vote winner.

The day that ever happens, CA Democrats will swiftly withdraw the state from the so-called “popular vote” compact.


33 posted on 10/25/2012 5:41:52 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved FrieGrnd Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Longbow1969
Unless we can figure out a way to win a higher share of minority (Hispanic) voters, in another generation (or less) we will be hard pressed to win even Texas.

Texas and California have the exact same percentage of Hispanics (both 31%), what saves Texas is fewer Catholics, and more Evangelicals.

34 posted on 10/25/2012 5:42:29 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt Romney is a mixture of LBJ and Nixon, Obama is a mixture of LBJ and Jimmy Carter.)
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To: Arthurio

LATINOS = MEXICANS


35 posted on 10/25/2012 5:42:45 PM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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To: MacMattico

My County will go for Romney.

Unbfortunately there are too many Obama voters in the other counties to carry the state.


36 posted on 10/25/2012 5:49:39 PM PDT by Venturer
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likely voters under 35 still support him by a wide margin (69% to 23% for Romney). A similar share of young voters supported Obama in October 2008 (65%).

So he's got four percent more support now among young likely voters than he did four years ago. I don't believe it.

37 posted on 10/25/2012 5:49:52 PM PDT by old and tired
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I suspect that the “winner take all” system heavily favors a dem candidate. I think that CA probably has a great many congressional districts where a GOP pres candidate would win. Is this true?

You are correct. The majority of the state, geographically, is rural and conservative. The urban areas of Lost Angeles and San Francisco drag us into the sewer every time. Orange County used to be solidly, reliably, conservative - not anymore.

38 posted on 10/25/2012 5:50:00 PM PDT by SCalGal (Friends don't let friends donate to H$U$, A$PCA, or PETA.)
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To: Arthurio

Changing demographics are a big part of it, but Anglos thinking it wouldn’t happen or ignoring the consequences greatly contributed to the “Changing demographics”


39 posted on 10/25/2012 5:50:00 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: old and tired

Young people can’t even get a job with a college degree. What’s to like about Obama?


40 posted on 10/25/2012 5:51:05 PM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: ansel12

Texas has more Hispanics who work. California is loaded up with Mexcians on welfare.


41 posted on 10/25/2012 5:52:02 PM PDT by WashingtonSource
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True, Texas never has gone for an elaborate, lavish, welfare system.


42 posted on 10/25/2012 6:00:56 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt Romney is a mixture of LBJ and Nixon, Obama is a mixture of LBJ and Jimmy Carter.)
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To: Arthurio

Believe it or not MA is about the same numbers.


43 posted on 10/25/2012 6:01:44 PM PDT by TheRhinelander
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no surprise, that Kalifornia, the home of kooks, feminazis, environazis, open-borders nazis, retreat from our national security interest Libertarians, and a state that business and people who are producers are fleeing from - would be for Obama

Kalifornia is the Greece of the U.S.

a financial basket case of its own making

(I grew up there and still have family there)

majorities there have taken up and made a priority of every nutty and destructive left wing cause

those who remain (a majority of them) are constantly reaping what they’ve sown and then looking for scapegoats for what’s happened, and repeating the same “solution”, which is in effect saying - “we don’t need new policies or new directions, we just aren’t taxing enough”; then the cycle repeats, things continue to deteriorate, the scapegoating continues, and the next solution is more taxes

will the last producer to leave California please take the state flag with you


44 posted on 10/25/2012 6:07:27 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: paul544; ansel12; Longbow1969; Arthurio
You Freepers have hit upon a truth, and it is something that has concerned me for some time: How to start producing conservative thought throughout the land. We aren't getting it done, and Barky was a manifestation of that.

Personally, I think contrasting classic American thought borne from Aristotelian logic with progressivism, would win out; but how to do it, is the stickler. I don't see conservatives winning in future elections just because of the reality of what our educational indoctrination centers are producing.

I think as soon as this election is over, a cell needs to be formed (with Jim Rob's permission) to tackle this. We are destined for defeat absent intentional effort to do so. Thoughts?

45 posted on 10/25/2012 6:25:34 PM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: Arthurio

California, like Michigan is the epitome of what happens when liberal/MARXISTS/democRats are in control.

i.e Boxer, Feinstein, Pelosi. 3 women who don’t have a single brain cell between them. It has proven to be a formula for disaster.

Not trying to be sexist, but this is what happens when radical women get control of ANYTHING.


46 posted on 10/25/2012 6:27:25 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: Arthurio

..considering McCain lost by 24 points, a loss of 10 or less could be considered a moral victory—sort of...


47 posted on 10/25/2012 6:29:03 PM PDT by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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To: Salvavida

Just post vanities on it and let it snow ball, if there is an interest.


48 posted on 10/25/2012 6:39:56 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt Romney is a mixture of LBJ and Nixon, Obama is a mixture of LBJ and Jimmy Carter.)
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To: unixfox
Not trying to be sexist, but this is what happens when radical women get control of ANYTHING.

Not taking it as sexist - it's the TRUTH.

49 posted on 10/25/2012 6:40:50 PM PDT by SCalGal (Friends don't let friends donate to H$U$, A$PCA, or PETA.)
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They don’t call kalifornia the land of fruits and nuts for nothing!


50 posted on 10/25/2012 6:43:52 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty ( For AMERICA's sake: Vote for the Mormon, NOT the muslim; The Capitalist, NOT the Communist! FUBO!)
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