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Report: UK denies US access to bases for Gulf buildup
The Hill ^ | 10/25/12 | Jeremy Herb

Posted on 10/25/2012 5:16:42 PM PDT by markomalley

The British government rejected U.S. requests to use military bases in the United Kingdom as part of a build-up in the Gulf, citing legal concerns that a pre-emptive strike on Iran would violate international law, The Guardian reported.

Citing unnamed U.K. officials, the Guardian reported that the United States has made informal requests for access to British bases in Cypress and British territories in the Atlantic and Indian oceans as part of contingency planning for Iran.

But British ministers have responded with legal advice from the U.K. attorney general’s office that says Iran does not currently represent “a clear and present danger.”

As a result, providing assistance to U.S. forces potentially involved in a strike on Iran would violate international law, according to the Guardian.

“The UK would be in breach of international law if it facilitated what amounted to a pre-emptive strike on Iran," said a British defense official. “It is explicit. The government has been using this to push back against the Americans.”

The Obama administration has not made a formal request to the British government for military access. U.K. officials said they did not believe there was any movement toward a conflict, but that the United States was exploring the “British position” on the use of bases.

Pentagon officials did not immediately respond to request for comment on the report. A U.S. State Department official told the Guardian: "The U.S. and the U.K. co-ordinate on all kinds of subjects all the time, on a huge range of issues. We never speak on the record about these types of conversations."

The Obama administration says it wants a diplomatic solution to the Iranian nuclear dispute, although President Obama has said he will not rule out using military force to stop Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon.

Iran insists that its nuclear program is for peaceful purposes only, while the United States and its allies suspect Iran is seeking nuclear weapons.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: europeanunion; iran; unitedkingdom; waronterror
Of course, after all, in Øbamamerica, the US is no better than the UK. Why should they agree?

 

 

I wonder if they'll change their mind after Nov. 6th.


1 posted on 10/25/2012 5:16:43 PM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley
Don't blame the Brits, people. This is payback for four years of infantile arrogance and obama-crap.
2 posted on 10/25/2012 5:19:41 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: markomalley

Sorry UK, from here on out, you are on your own, good luck with fighting off the muslims who are overunning your country.


3 posted on 10/25/2012 5:23:08 PM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: markomalley

Can’t blame the Brits one bit...


4 posted on 10/25/2012 5:23:47 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: hinckley buzzard

serves obama right


5 posted on 10/25/2012 5:26:14 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been coyboys)
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To: factoryrat

More than likely their refusal comes from fear of the Muslims in the UK.


6 posted on 10/25/2012 5:27:03 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: hinckley buzzard

They also don’t want another Iraq.


7 posted on 10/25/2012 5:31:27 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Obama in a binder!!!)
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To: Venturer
"More than likely their refusal comes from fear of the Muslims in the UK."


8 posted on 10/25/2012 5:32:15 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: markomalley
Terribly sorry, old boy!

No, we are not going to let you use our bases for some cockamamy "October Surprise" so you can look macho to the American voters.

Given the way Obama has treated the British for the last three years, I wouldn't be surprised if they just laughed and hung up the phone.

9 posted on 10/25/2012 5:33:33 PM PDT by Ronin (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life - Rep. L. Gohmert, Tex)
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To: markomalley

It’s a shame to loose the UK. Being such a poor country, they just can’t afford it.


10 posted on 10/25/2012 5:37:19 PM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2011)
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To: yldstrk

Color me cynical, but I think the request was only meant to look as if we were doing something. O knew the answer before he asked.


11 posted on 10/25/2012 5:38:58 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Timber Rattler

Agree. The Brits owe the dork nothing.

And we owe the dork impeachment.

At the very least.


12 posted on 10/25/2012 5:46:17 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: markomalley

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton made it clear in a joint press conference with Cristina Kirchner in Buenos Aires in March 2010 that the Obama administration fully backs Argentina’s calls for negotiations over the Falkands.

...shame this didn’t come up at the last debate.


13 posted on 10/25/2012 5:49:08 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: hinckley buzzard
Citing unnamed U.K. officials, the Guardian reported that the United States has made informal requests for access to British bases in Cypress and British territories in the Atlantic and Indian oceans as part of contingency planning for Iran.

Well, there goes Diego Garcia and a place to for our B-52's.

I do not know what is worse, the General Staff under the Bush Administration or utter stupidity of the Obama Administration.

When the Iraq war began, actually the build up began, I went to GlobalSecurity.org. I mapped out military assets, like 10,000 foot long airstrips in Iraq. I drew concentric circles on a map to show the power we could project based on aircraft type. Take note, we don't control those assets any longer. Apparently, it wasn't strategic to the Bush Administration and obviously the Obama Administration is completely clueless when it comes to anything more than thug gang violence.

I didn't care two craps about WND's arguments in Iraq. I cared about projecting power over our enemies. The war in Iraq was right. Iraqis are Muslims. They are our enemy. They had the ground to project our power on Iran, Jordan, Saudi, Turkey, Syria, and Egypt. Our objective should have been three fold, destroy our enemy (Muslims) in Iraq, capture their airfields and other infrastructure of our own use, and to take their oil in compensation for our efforts.

This is the way you win a war, save American lives, and American tax dollars. Terrorism should have been over eight years ago and gas should be $0.40 per gallon today.

14 posted on 10/25/2012 5:49:17 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (In a previous life I was ...)
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To: markomalley

Are there any NAMED sources? If not, remember folks, this IS the “Guardian”.


15 posted on 10/25/2012 5:49:35 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Venturer

The British neutered themselves, they have decided to sacrifice themselves at the altar of PC. A thousand years later, and the muslims claim victory over the christians during the crusades. Enjoy dhimmitude england.


16 posted on 10/25/2012 5:50:53 PM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: markomalley

Have to remember this next time the Brits need help in the Falklands.


17 posted on 10/25/2012 5:52:42 PM PDT by oldbill
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To: markomalley

i have to agree with the Brits

Iram is going to have to take some direct action, and I include in that direct action vis-a-vis Israel

in order to justify a U.S. bombing raid

until then

sanctions & increasing and spreading them, isolation, and containment will have to do, as we have done with Korea

we have the ability, without bombing Iran, to make it as dark and desolate at night as is North Korea, and more so than North Korea an informed opposition in Iran could yet topple the Mullahs, with those steps continued, broadened and tightened

the real issue with Iran is not its nuclear program

it’s the dictators in charge


18 posted on 10/25/2012 5:53:28 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: markomalley

This is likely a return to British policy to support the Arabs and screw Israel.


19 posted on 10/25/2012 6:03:48 PM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: Wuli

Is “Cypress” anywhere near Cyprus? IIRC, we have been flying recon missions out of RAF Akrotiri on Cyprus for some time now.


20 posted on 10/25/2012 6:04:57 PM PDT by Ax ("Bring the Pipes together for the Risin' o' the Moon.")
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To: Timber Rattler

Ha........ This is a slap in the face. If Obama were white, it would leave a red mark.

The Brits are waiting. They and the whole world are waiting for the November 6 crucifixion of the Messiah


21 posted on 10/25/2012 6:14:31 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: markomalley

“Citing unnamed U.K. officials, the Guardian reported that the United States has made informal requests for access to British bases in Cypress and British territories in the Atlantic and Indian oceans as part of contingency planning for Iran.”

It seems to me the question should be why is the US (aka Obama the Commander in Chief) looking for bases to attack Iran and might that happen just before the election?


22 posted on 10/25/2012 6:14:37 PM PDT by antidemoncrat
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To: Ax

ask the author of the article


23 posted on 10/25/2012 6:16:02 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: markomalley
This 'news' smells fishy to me. Who benefits from the implied suggestion that 0zer0 is planning a military option against Iran? I think this is more 'leaked' propaganda -that is all it is...

Never trust anything 0zer0 says, implies, suggests, or leaks -watch what the marxist does THAT is how you ascertain what is what.

24 posted on 10/25/2012 6:18:12 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: Mad Dawgg

Bingo!

Great Britain, France and Germany have been rounding up all the leaders of any groups that are considered anti-muslim.


25 posted on 10/25/2012 6:35:48 PM PDT by Snuph ("give me Liberty...")
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks markomalley.
26 posted on 10/25/2012 6:57:26 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: markomalley

...Lawrence of Arabia, Chamberlain, defaming of the USA to many trading partners behind our backs,... So what else is new?


27 posted on 10/25/2012 7:10:27 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: markomalley

Obama said it himself “It’s all about trust”. The UK can’t trust Obama anymore than any other non Muslim State, so this is what Obama gets.


28 posted on 10/25/2012 7:45:26 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Da Coyote

The question is whether we can ever get back all the old alliances now that America screwed them all by putting this foreign enemy combatant into our White House.

And how are we ever going to apologize enough for what we’ve put our military through? That’s the part that bothers me the worst. This whole country owes a huge apology to the families of our slain and wounded military personnel, for putting an enemy in as their (unlawful) Commander-in-Chief.


29 posted on 10/25/2012 7:52:34 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: factoryrat

96% of the UK is non-Muslim.

I’d really like to encounter this dhimmi UK I keep being told about.


30 posted on 10/25/2012 9:08:41 PM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: Mad Dawgg; Venturer

What, the massive FOUR PERCENT in the UK that are Muslim?.

Or could it be that we arent the 51st state, we arent your b*tch and we dont ask how high when you say jump.


31 posted on 10/25/2012 9:11:00 PM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: Dallas59

News for you, Einstein.

We are in a better financial position than you. And you were China’s biatch BEFORE the recession.


32 posted on 10/25/2012 9:12:21 PM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: oldbill

What help?.

We didnt much need you in 1982 (the US help then has been grossly exaggerated), and we’d fight another Falklands on our own, thanks.

Stop throwing your toys out of the pram. We are Britain, not state no 51. Last time I looked, we dont ask how high when you say jump.

If Americans are going to take the hump because god forbid, the Limeys decide to do whats best in the interest of their country and their military, then thats your problem, not ours.

Arent you the biggest, toughest mofos anyway, who can easily kick everyone’s ass?. Surely then you dont need the poor little Limeys or anyone else.....


33 posted on 10/25/2012 9:17:44 PM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: familyop

Isolationism, Joe Kennedy, Father Coughlin, Lindbergh, turning up late for two world wars, stabbing Britain in the back over Suez....

so what else is new?.


34 posted on 10/25/2012 9:20:23 PM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: ConservativeInPA

I like your thinking.


35 posted on 10/25/2012 11:38:00 PM PDT by dervish (Psalm 109:8)
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To: markomalley

The Hill must be real MORONS. They don’t even know what they are writing about of even proofread the article.

Where exactly is “CYPRESS”.... that is a tree found all over SC LA, FL GA in the swamps?

Now, the country of CYPRUS is in the Mediterranean and has two British bases on it, granted by treaty in 1960 when Cyprus gained its independence from the UK. It would be those bases the US might have asked to use— but I doubt it. This is more rocket rattle october surprise stuff. But the UN no doubt trying to help obamao.


36 posted on 10/26/2012 12:16:11 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: markomalley

even our best friends in the world doesn’t like us anymore. It’s all OBAMAS FAULT!


37 posted on 10/26/2012 12:25:36 AM PDT by uncitizen (Religion of Peace my hind end)
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To: the scotsman
Actually, anyone who throws a monkey wrench into an Obama October surprise wag the dog scenario is Okay with me.

When we get that arse out of office, the adults can resume discussion of options vis-a-vis Iran.

38 posted on 10/26/2012 12:32:03 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: the scotsman
Wow....you're still mad you lost a few wars to us and that we're not your colony, aren't you, subject?

Without us "showing up", you would have a much more decidedly Russian accent.

39 posted on 10/26/2012 12:40:36 AM PDT by Solson (The Voters stole the election! And the establishment wants it back.)
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To: Ronin
We must remember that obozo, the Manchurian Candidate, is the pResident of OUR United States...We the People are the good guys, and we are fighting the enemy within the White House. The Brits are doing what they must, and they are not aiding and abetting the Manchurian Candidate obozo.

I pray for Mitt Romney to win in November, and unite us WITH our allies once again. Until then, remember that We the People are the freedom fighters in this country against the enemy obozo. Bite the bullet and let's win this war in November.

40 posted on 10/26/2012 1:28:58 AM PDT by itssme
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To: Solson

Lost one. The other was a draw.

And I am related to Alexander Hamilton btw, and would have been a ‘rebel’ in 1776. British stupidity and arrogance both caused and lost that war (a war that was deeply unpopular with the British public and press btw, which is never mentioned, many British had sympathies with the American ‘rebels’)

I like America, I was just getting fired up and firing back at the posts last night.

Dont read too much into it.

p.s the British are not subjects. Thats a common misconception.


41 posted on 10/26/2012 5:31:56 AM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: the scotsman

Only 4%,and they are threatening your country.Getting Sharia law in some places.

Your 4% Muslims soud a lot like our 1% Homosexuals.

Getting away with far too much for their presence.

I might say that you are becoming the 4%’s b*tch, but that wouldn’t be nice.

You might remember though that Chamberlains policies didn’t work for Britain in WW2, and his polocies won’t work with Iran now. Your country can ignore the threat for now by being alledgedly neutral, but one day it may not turn out well.


42 posted on 10/26/2012 6:08:28 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: the scotsman

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2950481/posts

Thought you might like to read this, That 4% seems to be running things.


43 posted on 10/26/2012 6:18:21 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: the scotsman
I know you like 'Merica - I had just had to step up against you're attacks.

And yes, I know there were many in Britain that supported the rebels. That's part of the reason why Franklin was successful - he had open ears in many halls in Britain and France.

BTW, I've been to Scotland and the UK probably 30 times in the last five years. Our international office is right off Trafalgar Square. I was fortunate enough to see the trooping of the colours in Green Park and that was spectacular.

44 posted on 10/26/2012 8:32:04 AM PDT by Solson (The Voters stole the election! And the establishment wants it back.)
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To: Venturer

Geller is a nutter, and the story is crap.

The EDL are feeding her nonsense. If the story was true, any EDL story is frontpage news in the UK, I can assure you. And it hasnt been.


45 posted on 10/26/2012 10:37:13 AM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: the scotsman

Time will tell. Keep letting them gain strength.


46 posted on 10/26/2012 1:22:46 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: the scotsman

Please learn about your subject matter before mouthing off.
There was a constant flow of equipment and intelligence information to your Brits from the United States during the Falklands War. We also provided secret bases of operation and transshipment for you. I just happened to be a part of that assistance program.

You are a second world country depending upon the United States for your defense and protection. Please accept your place in the world. Queen Victoria is long dead, and the Empire’s sun now sets on Scilly.


47 posted on 10/26/2012 2:16:32 PM PDT by oldbill
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To: oldbill

I am with the UK.

Don’t let Obama have his October Distraction


48 posted on 10/26/2012 2:18:41 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: the scotsman

Alright, you got me there. :-) So on to other questions. How can we resume nationalism for each of our western culture countries—proper nationalism based on good deeds? Or will we continue to consume our own while allowing environmentalist, political regulators to crush remaining production on the soils of our own countries? I’m assuming that “empire” is over and done—that we are through with having communist/other slaves in eastern and southern cultures to produce for us.


49 posted on 10/26/2012 6:08:31 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: oldbill

I know my subject.

I didnt say America didnt help (maybe you should try reading), I said it has been exaggerated. By that, I mean there has been an argument that the American help tipped the balance, and that we couldnt have won the war without it.

A badly flawed argument, and one, that with American ignorance, ignores that the US wasnt our only ally in 1982, but one of several, from Chile to S Africa, France to Australia and NZ.

No, we not have an Empire, but we dont rely on America, sorry to disappoint. We are one of the few European/Western countries that didnt/doesnt rely on America. But we didnt rely on in 1950 or 1980 or now. It was and is great having you as an ally, but dont think the UK relied on the US from 1945 or does now.


50 posted on 10/26/2012 10:01:58 PM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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