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Father of Slain SEAL: Who Made the Decision Not to Save My Son?
Weekly Standard ^ | OCT 25, 2012 | DANIEL HALPER

Posted on 10/25/2012 5:23:41 PM PDT by Snuph

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To: Hero

Yea why not..Although the cries about using the dead for political gain will be deafening from the MSM .
I still say why not. This election is beyond important. ANYTHING to get rid of Obama is worth it.
They should use this poor guy in a TV ad , with his permission of course.
I’d do it


61 posted on 10/25/2012 8:13:53 PM PDT by sonic109 (The 1st Revolution was about taxes ..the 2nd one will be also)
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To: Travis McGee

The F-ING MARXIST BASTARD NEEDS TO BE ARRESTED !!!!
I need information ..WHO on our side is perusing this ?
Why is there not press conference after press conference
all week long pounding the White house for information ?
Why can’t we EVER get balls enough to slam the left .
There should be DAILY calls for Obamas head. Can’t one f-ing Republican get on camera and at leas SAY he wants Obama impeacher. At least it would make headline and at LEAST more of America will hear the REAL story
WHO?/Who the hell has balls to bring this to the public in a BIG BIG way ?


62 posted on 10/25/2012 8:25:48 PM PDT by sonic109 (The 1st Revolution was about taxes ..the 2nd one will be also)
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To: Travis McGee

The F-ING MARXIST BASTARD NEEDS TO BE ARRESTED !!!!
I need information ..WHO on our side is perusing this ?
Why is there not press conference after press conference
all week long pounding the White house for information ?
Why can’t we EVER get balls enough to slam the left .
There should be DAILY calls for Obamas head. Can’t one f-ing Republican get on camera and at leas SAY he wants Obama impeacher. At least it would make headline and at LEAST more of America will hear the REAL story
WHO?/Who the hell has balls to bring this to the public in a BIG BIG way ?


63 posted on 10/25/2012 8:26:03 PM PDT by sonic109 (The 1st Revolution was about taxes ..the 2nd one will be also)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

If biden said this then

WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY ISN’T EVERY SINGLE REPUBLICAN in office right now repeating it to every single newspaper , tv and radio person they can find. Why can’t a Vets organization stage a TV perfect protest. We need to adapt the methods of the Left to defeat them .
This info MUST be made known to everyone who breathes
Biden , another piece of shit in a suit.


64 posted on 10/25/2012 8:32:21 PM PDT by sonic109 (The 1st Revolution was about taxes ..the 2nd one will be also)
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To: leapfrog0202

“Why in the world would anyone say such a stupid thing?”

O Rilely closed out the session by saying “we have gone over this 80,000 times. by the time of the election this issue will not mean much”.

Unfortunately, I think he is correct....!


65 posted on 10/25/2012 9:52:20 PM PDT by Phosgood (Send in the Clowns...but Wait, they're here!! >..<)
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To: Phosgood

Thanks Phosgood, I didn’t see the show.

How very sad though.


66 posted on 10/25/2012 9:55:35 PM PDT by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: willibeaux

“.Colin Powell was also involved and he kept his mouth shut...”

Colon Powell came out today he was supporting OBama in the upcoming election.

I was going to check my blood pressure before I went to bed but I better not.


67 posted on 10/25/2012 10:02:10 PM PDT by Phosgood (Send in the Clowns...but Wait, they're here!! >..<)
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To: Snuph

Front page of the New York Times (read, why, studied, by every local news editor in the country), otherwise it (the father’s story) never happened!


68 posted on 10/25/2012 10:04:36 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Travis McGee

For that few people in the Annex, who had shifted to secondary positions in hours of darkness, it sure was some incredibly accurate mortar fire, with limited ammo, to only take out the two ex-SEALs in the compound.

Maybe Stevens and Smith were collateral damage. I believe the guard out the safe haven window was called David Doogan?, he seemed to have survived after they couldn’t find either Smith or Stevens.

If the attackers didn’t know Stevens was dead or possibly even in the compound, the body sure got back to the plane quickly in the early morning hours after the hospital didn’t know who he was.

What really gets me thinking about this is that it is an attempted coordinated attack, at night, by forces reportedly not from the area, not that well disciplined, but then the NYT provides a timeline soon thereafter asserting the frontline attackers were part of a Libyan brigade also attributed with the overthrow of Khaddafy.

The real time videos from cell phones don’t appear to show any disciplined attackers, so if fully engaged at nighttime, they would quickly drain their ammo supplies.

Seems like the attack on the Annex is something performed with night vision assets for that much accuracy. Also with preplanned and propositioned weapons for accuracy. Perhaps some inside intel on reaction plans.

If it were simply upset militant tracking down their prey, they had to have had secure ammo and perimeter security to know the locals wouldn’t catch them from their rear.

They also have a fog of war, unless supported by foreign or friendly intel sources.

They seem to have been convoluted with political protestors as a cover for their intent.

Note, both Obama and Hillary have taken responsibility for the deaths. Maybe they really are,....but much more directly than the public could imagine.


69 posted on 10/26/2012 12:27:40 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Travis McGee
Didn't we hear that that the FBI couldn't enter Libya to investigate because they were waiting for Visa's to be granted by the Muslim Brotherhood Government there?

Good thing President Reagan didn't wait for “permission” when he bombed the hell out of Gadafi’s Compound after Libya was implicated in the Disco Bombing that killed our Troops.

Obama is a Treasonous Bastard and should be held to account.

70 posted on 10/26/2012 12:41:59 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (How do you insult an Obama Voter? Call them an Obama Voter.)
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To: Travis McGee

I don’t think I agree with your assessment in post 16. Don’t get me wrong,...if this was truly a foreign terrorist attack, then it’s correct,...but looking at the evidence before us of the cell phone videos from the area, the timelines, the tactics deployed, the implied logistics, the comments from local politicians,...it strikes me that this was a much more targeted operation.

Ambassador Stevens reportedly escorted the Turkish envoy to the gates of the compound circa 8:30 local time, about 1hr10min-1hr 40min before the first explosions at the gates were heard.

The attackers targeted the Residence.

They later followed the reaction teams to the Annex and conducted some fairly accurate mortar fire after targets shifted at night before they had time for resupply.

I’d say a good number of them were prepositioned and had the compounds under observation continually before the attacks.

They probably saw the Ambassador at the gates escorting the Turks out about 20:00. So why not act then, ...sundown at 18:51, nautical dusk ,..say 19:15, no protests going on. Leads me to give more credence to a coordinated attack.

Initial assaults also had trucks(pickups I imagine) with heavier weapons bringing them in to the area. So they probably had them under observation, then assaulted with the trucks in a coordinated attack.

Local politicians had Libyan security pulled back so as not to incense crowds, then he criticized the guards for shooting when the compound was assaulted. Reads to me as though the local politicians knew the attackers and had experience managing or thinking he was managing their activity within his perceived constraints. When others didn’t follow the same unwritten laws, the local politicians blame those obeying the written laws.

When Clinton was in office, Colby died under mysterious circumstances. Obama and Hillary seem to have penchant for having SEALs take fatal hits under their watch. What did they know and when did they know it?

People do things for reasons. Biden’s little crack remark about Ty Woods having the balls the size of billiard balls or such,...why would he say something like that,....it telegraphs his deeper thinking, it’s like a ‘gotcha comment’, which to the innocent, just doesn’t seem to make sense. To the corrupt mind, such as Biden’s, it manifests a deeper very real, intended meaning. I don’t know what it is, but it doesn’t encourage special trust, faith, nor confidence in the abilities thereof.

I’m not sure it was about Stevens.

The Muslim video thing plays in here, but more in a contrived political science fashion, than any natural consequence. Muslim abhorrence of homosexuality or female governance is just as plausible a justification for militant action as watching a youtube video, and those definitely are never respected by this Administration to allay the ire of militant Muslims.

IMHO, somebody on the inside knew when the SEALs were KIA and the rest were able to then leave without slaughter. IMHO, those attacking the compound were getting briefed on our intel. Why else let anybody live to leave the Annex? Maybe saved by daylight? Stevens found about dawn by friendlies, so somebody was tracking that actively.

Bad guys today, still seem to hide in the dark or being masked by mayhem from others, so they aren’t exposed.

The attackers weren’t good enough to take out their direct target as a coordinated company attack, nor mobbish enough to continue their mayhem. It had to be re-coordinated and controlled by others. Somebody had good enough intel to continually retarget US friendlies, in darkness, after their environment changed and they changed their operations, then ceased operations when the convoy left. If anything, for the Annex assault to have been so successful, they would have followed the convoy to even the airport, even taking out the planes before they could leave.

Just my 2 cents, IMHO,...something stinks here and nobody is following it up. What is interesting, the very same mindsets who like Obama and Hillary are also the very same casualties in this whole affair and they aren’t smart enough to realize it. Meanwhile, it fosters Al Quada and militant Islam jihad.


71 posted on 10/26/2012 1:25:14 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Snuph

Bump!


72 posted on 10/26/2012 1:55:13 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: vetvetdoug

how do ya know...I’ missed that and thanks in advance


73 posted on 10/26/2012 2:00:56 AM PDT by advertising guy (" that lie has it's own sleep number " David Feherty PGA Championship 2012)
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To: Travis McGee

about your piece, here is my problem...and I need direction here... this factually happened at 9;35 their time or 3: 35 pm out time..

1. is that correct...

2 7 hours into it would be 10:35 pm DC time

3 when and how do we know his bedtime ? PBS membership drive ? go Big Bird Go

nailin down the time line is in fact, this story...well cept for the gun runnin


74 posted on 10/26/2012 2:19:03 AM PDT by advertising guy (" that lie has it's own sleep number " David Feherty PGA Championship 2012)
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To: Snuph
PLUS, Biden came over to Woods's family and said loudly.."did your son always have balls the size of cue balls?" OMG!!! DISGUSTING!!!

WE need to DEMAND ANSWERS ASAP, NOT AFTER the ELECTION!

75 posted on 10/26/2012 2:51:41 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Phosgood

BOR is an Obama BUTT KISSER!!!


76 posted on 10/26/2012 2:52:25 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Mrs. Frogjerk

She’s running for VP with Roseanne Barr for Pres!!!!! Clinton has proved and Obama has REALLY proved that ANYONE can be elected President because we have STUPID people in the US!! ANd a LOT of CHEATING!!


77 posted on 10/26/2012 2:56:18 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Travis McGee
The 16 man Security Team for the Amb. had been PULLED in August even AFTER they begged to keep them and asked for MORE Security!!!

WHO MADE THIS DECISION AND WHY???? They haveBLOOD on their HANDS!!!

78 posted on 10/26/2012 3:01:11 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Snuph

Rush had better be ALL OVER this today...


79 posted on 10/26/2012 3:07:31 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Ann Archy
WE need to DEMAND ANSWERS ASAP, NOT AFTER the ELECTION!

Get this...there ARE Congressional hearings scheduled...starting November FIFTEENTH!

80 posted on 10/26/2012 3:09:09 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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