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Then and Now (North on Benghazi)
Creators Syndicate ^ | October 26, 2012 | Oliver North

Posted on 10/25/2012 5:37:38 PM PDT by jazusamo

WASHINGTON — For better than a month, the Obama administration has been dodging and weaving over what actually transpired in Benghazi, Libya, on the night of Sept. 11-12. Questions have been posed about why Ambassador Christopher Stevens was there and not at his embassy post in Tripoli. Congressional investigators have asked why he had no security detail, why the State Department decided not to send in U.S. Marine embassy security guards when they were offered months before, why contingency plans were not in place on the anniversary of 9/11 and why the O-Team insisted for so long that the attack on our U.S. diplomatic post was a "spontaneous event" and not an act of terrorism.

By now, all should realize that truthful answers to these inquiries will not be furnished by the White House or State Department until after the presidential election on Nov. 6. But there is an even more important question that should be asked and answered now: Once the White House knew about the attack in Benghazi, what action did the president take to protect or save the lives of Americans?

"We the People" need to know the answer because we are about to hire — or rehire — a commander in chief. The response is crucial to determining whether the incumbent is competent enough to fulfill the responsibilities of the job or whether he should be replaced. Fortunately, we have a standard of behavior for a commander in chief in a previous well-documented terror event: Ronald Reagan during the Achille Lauro incident.

On Oct. 7, 1985, four radical Islamic terrorists — members of the Palestine Liberation Front, the organization now calling itself Hamas — hijacked the Italian cruise ship Achille Lauro. They then murdered Leon Klinghoffer, a wheelchair-bound American passenger...

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: achillelauro; benghazi; benghazigate; libya; obama; olivernorth; presidentreagan
Oliver North nails Obama, he's not only a failure as CinC but as president.

BTW...Obama wouldn't make a pimple on President Reagans....

1 posted on 10/25/2012 5:37:38 PM PDT by jazusamo
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To: 2rightsleftcoast; abner; ACAC; advertising guy; amom; AnalogReigns; Anoreth; Arkinsaw; ...
OLIVER NORTH PING!

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Please Freepmail me to be added to the Ollie North ping list.

2 posted on 10/25/2012 5:43:08 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

The intercept was the brainchild of Ollie, was it not? One of his finest moments.


3 posted on 10/25/2012 5:48:58 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Why not eliminate the middle man and have whoever feeds Obama his lines debate Romney directly?")
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To: NonValueAdded

I believe it was from what I’ve read, he’s a true patriot.


4 posted on 10/25/2012 5:55:44 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo
The Colonel nails it! The nonfeasance, misfeasance and malfeasance of this administration amounts, IMHO, to the absolute nadir of American government. They had all the information anyone needed to have and did nothing but to sit back and watch the live feed of our people being slaughtered and our mission being overrun. What an absolute travesty! I only hope we are able to turn them out on 6 November!



Genuflectimus non ad principem sed ad Principem Pacis!

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

5 posted on 10/25/2012 6:02:05 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: jazusamo
100% right on column describing true leadership vs Obama. Every American should read and respond to Ollie North's words.
6 posted on 10/25/2012 6:05:06 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: jazusamo
100% right on column describing true leadership vs Obama. Every American should read and respond to Ollie North's words.
7 posted on 10/25/2012 6:07:44 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: NonValueAdded

When Ollie speaks, I listen.

Good article.


8 posted on 10/25/2012 6:20:12 PM PDT by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
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To: jazusamo
My own suspicion is:

1. Obama was distributing Khadaffi weapons to radicals in the muslim world to overthrow Israel and countries allied with the west. The ambassador objected and was taken out by ties to AQ and Muslim Brotherhood.

2. Similar to 1, but the us objected to something (nukes, terror that exceeded 9/11/01) and the islamists decided to get even.

This administration works on the theory of orchestrated crisis, that is how I view events.

obama was directing

9 posted on 10/25/2012 6:24:48 PM PDT by MtnClimber (I did not vote for Zero. Someone else did that.)
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To: jazusamo
0bama Is A Deserter!

0bama was notified immediately and automatically when the Benghazi consulate triggered the "Critical Incident Report" alert. He did nothing.

Judge Jeanine Investigates Benghazi Gate Part 4 - 10/20/2012 video 6:53
Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer (U.S. Army ret.), former CIA Station Chief Gary Burtson and former CIA operative Mike Baker

They confirm everything Col. Hunt said about automatic notifications to the WH and add more details.

Howie Carr interview with Col. Hunt On The Newest Libyan Revelations audio 28:37

There are three scandals here...

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For weeks now I have thought that the denial of requests for security were a dereliction of duty. I consider the lies and misdirection about the "video" after the attack to be fraud and malfeasance under the color of authority. I don't consider the inaction during the attack to be any of those.

The failure to act during the attack is the direct equivalent of desertion IMO.

ONE man had the authority to act that night.

ONE man deserted his post!

10 posted on 10/25/2012 6:27:35 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: Travis McGee
A White House spokesman now claims that the O-Team couldn't commit military force without "diplomatic clearance" from the Libyan government. Good thing that provision of international law doesn't apply in Pakistan or Yemen.

ping

11 posted on 10/25/2012 6:33:16 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: jazusamo
Why no rescue mission? Obama was asleep.


12 posted on 10/25/2012 6:42:45 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: TigersEye

OBAMA WENT TO BED

(repeated here to get it around.)

The biggest stench from the Benghazi fiasco is that it is beginning to look like Obama went "nighty-night" to rest up for Las Vegas, instead of manning up in the Situation Room and seeing the crisis through and (had he only been awake) ordering a rescue mission.

In Benghazi, after 6-8 hours enduring a few “Fort Apaches,” with running street battles in between, (like a mini Blackhawk Down), the living Americans must have been thinking, “Any minute now, here come the helicopters! Just hang on!”

But they didn’t. So even though Delta had forward staged to Sigonella Sicily (rumint) from base in Germany, nobody was willing or able to pull the trigger and send a rescue force. Or even a few F-18 supersonic flybys, to bust windows and warn, “Here comes American airpower, and you camel jockeys know what that means.” Just as a morale booster it would have helped the besieged staffers.

But it was never sent, not even a lousy supersonic low-level flyby. One hour from bases in Italy, max.

Here is the deal. The military automatically does a lot on its own, under standing orders and SOPs. The minute they see that the consulate is under attack, and the ambassador and others are in a "safe room" hiding, it becomes TOP priority. Every other mission aborts or slaves over to support any possible rescue.

At that moment when the critical incident alarm messages start ringing, military steps happen on autopilot in real time. Everybody in the Navy and USAF chain of command swings into a crisis contingency plan mode. What ships are closest? Helicopters? Marines? Delta is in Germany? Get them moving right now. Where is closest? Sigonella, for now. It’s NATO, no permission needed, just fly.

En route in C-17s, the D-boys would even be prepping for an immediate action rescue mission, that is, the C-17s will fly directly to some desert road outside of Benghazi, and here comes “The Raid On Entebbe,” done in crisis mode, canned actions, but they would do it. They practice for these exact scenarios, and leave gear staged for them.

They would coordinate with fighters out of Italy, mid-air-refueling platforms start shifting, it's a huge show that swings into action for thousands of miles around Behghazi. The ongoing consulate attack is JOB ONE, the only job. VIPs will be tossed off of planes at remote runways if they need that platform.

Or Marines on amphibious ships in the central Med, (if any were available), would also be put on the real-time options board. We used to have a "Amphibious Ready Group" of about 3-5 USN gator freighters, including a helo carrier like a Tarawa class. They carry an entire battalion of USMC, plus SEALs etc, with helos and Ospreys to carry them all. (But not at once.) Where was our ARG? Does our Navy have enough ships for that mission any more?

But while all of that military staging would have happened/did happen during the 6-8 hour battle at the consulate and annex, what the military cannot do on their own say-so is cross an international border without an order from the NCA, the National Command Authority, and that means POTUS, Obama.

Only POTUS can authorize a cross-border hostile mission. That is, guns clear, no official permission from the Tripoli govt (if it really exists outside State Dept fantasies.)

Only one man can pull that trigger and say, "GO!" Obama.

(But for America to act "unilaterally" would have meant the bogus Libyan Arab Spring and so-called new Libyan Unity Govt. that we were propping up didn’t really exist. Libyan sovereignty must be held sacrosanct, even the false image of one, where in reality, Al Queda is top dog in Libya. Even when an Al Queda offshoot is your external "security," namely, "The 17th of February Martyrs Brigade." IOW, the White House thought they had a "deal" with AQ in Behghazi, since we were helping to run weaponry from Libya to their pals in Syria. So there was an "institutional bias" at State against crossing the border on a rescue operation sin permisso.)

Anyway, be that as it may, no General or Admiral will order the Marines ashore, or a Delta raid or even an F-18 or F-16 low-level supersonic flyby. They can not and will not cross a border without a clear-cut order from POTUS via the NCA. Not even Hillary can make that decision. Only Obama.

But no order came, as of midnight in DC. And then none would come. Because the POTUS retired for the night with a “do not disturb” sign on his door, punted, and went to bed, to be well rested for Las Vegas.

While his ambassador was off the U.S. radar, missing, at that moment possibly being dragged down a Benghazi street or even raped. But that is when Obama went to bed. Midnight in DC is 0600 in Beghazi.

That is the greatest scandal of Benghazi. The POTUS slept through it, while all around the world, military forces were poised for the Raid on Entebbe or any other damn thing the POTUS ordered them to do. (And the were raring to go, believe me.)

But the POTUS said, “We’ll discuss it further in the morning,” and then he went to bed around midnight in DC, 0600 in Benghazi, with a missing ambassador and a full-blown crisis in full mega flap.

He punted. He went to bed.

God help us.

I think that’s the big secret they are keeping. The President went to bed, with his lost Ambassador being dragged through streets.

Obama went to bed.


13 posted on 10/25/2012 7:00:30 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

Thanks. That’s what I was looking for.


14 posted on 10/25/2012 7:05:23 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: Travis McGee; TigersEye
Obama went to bed.

BTTT!

15 posted on 10/25/2012 7:21:36 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

Good article by Col. North. Thanks for the ping jaz. Sent the link via email to many a friend across the country.


16 posted on 10/25/2012 7:25:44 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: jazusamo

North is a racist. He uses the phrase “dodging and weaving” which is a reference to boxing, and as we all know, most boxers are African-American. Code Word Alert! Hate crime!


17 posted on 10/25/2012 7:30:45 PM PDT by karnage
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To: karnage

Dang! Maybe so:)


18 posted on 10/25/2012 7:41:09 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo
Why Ambassador Christopher Stevens there and not at his embassy post in Tripoli?

Why exactly? What was his mission, why there, why low profile, and why no security?

19 posted on 10/25/2012 8:01:44 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: jazusamo
Ollie nails it as usual.

Obama Failed as CinC, Failed as President.

Vote for a new CinC and President on November 6!

Vote for the Survival of our Sacred Republic!

20 posted on 10/25/2012 8:43:09 PM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: karnage

Oliver North was a boxer, too. At the USNA.


21 posted on 10/25/2012 8:47:36 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: TigersEye

With in 15 minutes the message must be sent. It gets to the Prez asap after that UNLESS HIS PEOPLE HAVE RECIEVED HIS INSTRUCTIONS THAT HE IS NOT TO BE DISTURBED.


22 posted on 10/25/2012 9:37:47 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: TomasUSMC

Without knowing anything about the protocols I would have just assumed that to be the case in the event of a situation like this.


23 posted on 10/25/2012 9:43:56 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: jazusamo
From the DAILY MAIL Sept. 13, 2012:

President Barack Obama compared his campaign volunteers to the American officials killed in Libya, saying that ‘like them, you guys are Americans who sense that we can do better than we’re doing’.

Obama’s remarks came during a meeting with volunteer leaders in Las Vegas. ‘And obviously [our] hearts are broken for the families but I wanted to encourage those folks at the State Department that they were making a difference,’ he said, according to a pool report.

‘The sacrifices that our troops and our diplomats make are obviously very different from the challenges that we face here domestically but, like them, you guys are Americans who sense that we can do better than we’re doing….I’m just really proud of you.’

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2202769/Obama-compares-murdered-American-officials-Libya-Las-Vegas-campaign-volunteers.html

24 posted on 10/25/2012 10:19:56 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Travis McGee

What a fantastic post! Your obvious talent for writing makes clear what went on that night for anyone who is still not sure. (although, at this point, there head is stuck in the Saudi sand if they pretend they don’t get it!)


25 posted on 10/26/2012 6:36:45 AM PDT by CAluvdubya (ABO)
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To: CAluvdubya

eerrrggg! there head = their head


26 posted on 10/26/2012 6:39:50 AM PDT by CAluvdubya (ABO)
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To: jazusamo

Ollie North left off the sad coda to Reagan’s triumph. The Italians later let the terrorists go.


27 posted on 10/26/2012 11:58:06 AM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change!)
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To: jazusamo; All
October26, 2012 - Glenn Beck: New Explosive Benghazi Allegations: CIA Operators Told to ‘Stand Down’ During Attack & 3 Urgent Requests for Military Back-Up Were Denied
28 posted on 10/26/2012 11:59:40 AM PDT by Larousse2 (The price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance. ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Larousse2

Thanks for posting the link.

That’s a great piece by Jennifer Griffin. I watched her on Fox this morning reporting it and her piece was posted on their website a little later.

Here it is over 6 weeks after the attack and Zer0 still hasn’t told the truth...Pathetic!


29 posted on 10/26/2012 12:10:00 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

Up until now, Obama has managed to avoid being a target for retribution from offnded parties in the US public.Thats not true now anymore. Obama’s security risk just accelerated a million fold.Now thousands would like nothing better than to get retribution for his conduct on Bengazi.

Obama just dropped out of being a self pronounced champion of the people.He is royally effed fer sure.IMHO he should go into hiding and resign his office pending criminal charges being initiated against him.


30 posted on 10/26/2012 11:30:36 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article: http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Candor7
You're correct, that's exactly what he should do.

Of course he won't, that’ll never cross narcissistic Rat's mind.

31 posted on 10/27/2012 9:01:11 AM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo; All
Fox News Exclusive - with Jennifer Griffin
32 posted on 10/27/2012 11:57:30 AM PDT by Larousse2 (The price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance. ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: jazusamo; All
Fox News Exclusive - with Jennifer Griffin
33 posted on 10/27/2012 11:57:49 AM PDT by Larousse2 (The price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance. ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Larousse2

BUMP and Thanks again!


34 posted on 10/27/2012 12:03:42 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo; All
Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer: My sources tell me Obama was in the room watching Benghazi attack
35 posted on 10/27/2012 7:48:14 PM PDT by Larousse2 (The price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance. ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: jazusamo; All
Report: Obama Watched Benghazi Attack From 'Situation Room'

Justice with Judge Jeanine 10/27/12 - CIA talks about latest news about Benghazi coverup

Judge Jeanine speaking with Charles Woods, father of Benghazi slain SEAL Ty Woods

Judge Jeanine asks White House 'How do you sleep at night'

36 posted on 10/28/2012 11:40:34 AM PDT by Larousse2 (The price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance. ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Larousse2
Cols Shaffer and Hunt don't pull any punches nor does Judge Jeanine.

There should be hundreds if not thousands speaking out like them and all the media should be covering it, sadly the enemedia won't.

37 posted on 10/28/2012 12:08:55 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

If you want to get more military insight into Benghazi and other military issues, I recommend the radio show on KFI LA AM 640 8-10 Sat and Sunday nights, Brian Suits, A Dark Secret Place.


38 posted on 10/28/2012 12:10:31 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: jazusamo

I agree with you 100%.


39 posted on 10/28/2012 5:23:42 PM PDT by Larousse2 (The price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance. ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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