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Panetta: We didnít defend consulate under attack because of a lack of intel
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Posted on 10/26/2012 9:53:11 AM PDT by chessplayer

One of the unanswered questions about the terrorist attack on our consulate in Benghazi is why the US military didn’t intervene. Rumors had swirled that the US asked the Libyan government in Tripoli for permission to fly into Benghazi to break up the attack but had been refused, although no one has claimed that on the record. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta put that rumor to rest yesterday by telling reporters that the US never planned to intervene at all, thanks to a lack of intel on the ground:

US military leaders ruled out sending in forces during the attack on an American consulate in Libya last month because of a lack of reliable intelligence, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said Thursday.

Although forces were on alert and ready to launch an operation if needed, the US military commander for Africa, General Carter Ham, the chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Martin Dempsey, and Panetta all decided against any intervention as they had no clear picture of events unfolding in Benghazi, he said.

“There’s a basic principle here, and the basic principle is that you don’t deploy forces into harm’s way without knowing what’s going on, without having some real-time information about what’s taking place,” Panetta told a news conference.

“And as a result of not having that kind of information, the commander who’s …in that area, General Ham, General Dempsey and I felt very strongly that we could not put forces at risk in that situation.”


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KEYWORDS: benghazi; blame; coverup; dempsey; ham; intel; liars; libya; lying; panetta; partyofliars; partyoftreason
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1 posted on 10/26/2012 9:53:11 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

Liars, ALL Of them!...............


2 posted on 10/26/2012 9:55:04 AM PDT by Red Badger (Why yes, that was crude and uncalled for......That's why I said it..............)
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To: chessplayer

Watching it happen and you have LACK OF INTEL?! Liar.


3 posted on 10/26/2012 9:56:19 AM PDT by madison10 (?)
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To: chessplayer
Drones aren't Intel?
Special Ops asking for help aren't Intel?

LIAR!

4 posted on 10/26/2012 9:56:32 AM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: chessplayer

Actually, for once I think he’s telling the truth.

There must have been about 100 IQ points in the room that evening.

Lack of intelligence? Oh I’m in.


5 posted on 10/26/2012 9:57:57 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama's myth is oozing out onto the floor. He's the political Lance Armstrong.)
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To: chessplayer

Sorry Leon.. We’ve all seen the Tom Clancy movies and ‘24’.
We know you knew, you lie, good men die.


6 posted on 10/26/2012 9:58:28 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: chessplayer

Resign, Leon.


7 posted on 10/26/2012 9:59:19 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: chessplayer

This is crude, but I’m gonna say it anyway.

Why on this earth would anyone believe a man that spent most of the latter half of the 1990s going around the MSM talk circuit defending Clinton and arguing that the a blow job did not rise to the level of an “impeachable offense”.

This country, ALL of us, should be ashamed that this man is in control of our Defense Department. It is an absolute travesty.


8 posted on 10/26/2012 9:59:24 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

No need for MY reply ... y’all sayin’ it before I get a chance.


9 posted on 10/26/2012 9:59:24 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: chessplayer

>>>...they had no clear picture of events unfolding in Benghazi,...>>>

Even if that were true, and I don’t believe it for a second, WHOSE FAULT was it that there was no clear picture of events? That’s like 911 getting multiple phone calls for help for a heart attack including the address, etc. and then claiming there was no clear call to 911.


10 posted on 10/26/2012 10:04:19 AM PDT by kitkat
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To: chessplayer

I’d like to say something here that we don’t see said enough.

For years we have tried to tell the left that we don’t want them in charge of our military. We have explained why until we’re blue in the face.

Okay Lefties, take a good hard look.

This is precisely what we have been saying would happen sooner or later.

And the next time we defend redundancy in our military, please step out of the way and accept that you don’t know up from down with it comes to issues like this.

We have had Carter, Clinton, and now Obama.

Carter destabilized Iran and tossed the M/E into turmoil.

Clinton blew two chances to get OBL.

And now this with Obama.

Leftists, shut your pie-hole! You are unfit to lead. End of story...


11 posted on 10/26/2012 10:05:39 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama's myth is oozing out onto the floor. He's the political Lance Armstrong.)
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To: chessplayer
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What pathetic nonsense !

Leon Panetta has always been a B-Political Player with aspirations to the Major Leagues ...

What Leon Panetta lacks in intelligence he gladly offers his "conscience and soul" to the highest bidder ...

whether it's the Criminal Clinton Administration ...

or the Neo-Moslem Obama Administration.



The CIA and Whitehouse were watching real-time video from a Predator Drone circling overhead the Embassy Safe House ...

"our trusted" TRAITOROUS leaders were in Communication contact with the COMS team for almost seven hours ...



And that TRAITOROUS SLUG Leon Panetta ...

claims that we didn't have sufficient intel ...



For the first time I'm wondering if there isn't a BIGGER LIE being covered-up by Obama's Criminal Whitehouse Lackeys ... Hillary Clinton ... and Leon Panetta.

What if there's another BIGGER game afoot in this scandal ...

that justifies the ABJECT CRIMINAL TREASONOUS STUPIDITY of the Obama Government-in-Occupation ?



After all ... Obama takes every opportunity to remind the American People that "The One" is perfectly willing to kill Moslems by the "bushelfull" (SP) ... as Gen. George Patton stated ...

How has the Obama Administration been BLACKMAILED-COMPROMISED by the Islamists ?



"That" ... my friends ... is the BIG QUESTION ...

Shawn Hannity and Rush Limbaugh need to press that point home .... NOW ...




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12 posted on 10/26/2012 10:07:13 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin will DEFEAT the Obama-Romney Socialist Gay-Marriage Axis of Evil)
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To: chessplayer

“Lack of Intel” eh...Leon...that’s YOUR department isn’t it?

As your employer...I wanna see your resignation letter on my desk....toot suite!!!


13 posted on 10/26/2012 10:10:10 AM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: chessplayer

They lacked the Intel to attack even though they were watching it in real time YET they had enough Intel to blame it all on an anti-Islam You Tube clip.

C’mon. Intel is perfect when you want to fabricate a lie, but it’s imperfect when you don’t want to act on it.


14 posted on 10/26/2012 10:11:24 AM PDT by randita
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To: chessplayer

The media has to ask Panetta who is the Bull Crapper now?

TRANSCRIPT: Presidential debate on foreign policy at Lynn University
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/22/transcript-presidential-debate-on-foreign-policy-at-lynn-university/

Obama “Now with respect to Libya, as I indicated in the last debate, when we received that phone call, I immediately made sure that, number one, that we did everything we could to secure those Americans who were still in harm’s way;”


15 posted on 10/26/2012 10:11:47 AM PDT by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: Red Badger

I see Valerie Jarrets fingerprints all over this. How does Petraeus keep quiet. He has to say something.


16 posted on 10/26/2012 10:12:25 AM PDT by magua
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To: chessplayer

The IR picture from the drone flying five miles out was not enough.


17 posted on 10/26/2012 10:13:07 AM PDT by bmwcyle (45% to 47% of American voters are stupid)
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To: chessplayer
WHY DID YOU TELL THE FORCES ALREADY THERE TO STAND DOWN???

Not providing backup is bad, but can be spun as "fog of war". Telling the boots already on the ground to sit and watch is entirely different.

18 posted on 10/26/2012 10:14:04 AM PDT by kevkrom (If a wise man has an argument with a foolish man, the fool only rages or laughs...)
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To: chessplayer

Panetta lacks intelligence....as in basic intelligence.
He is a tool of the party.


19 posted on 10/26/2012 10:14:53 AM PDT by Rapscallion ( Both are in over their heads, out of their depth and wholly unaware of how they are pervceived.)
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To: kevkrom

Planned murder or hostage taking.

Why else do you tell them to stand down?


20 posted on 10/26/2012 10:17:32 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: chessplayer
Defense Secretary Leon Panetta needs to resign. American citizens don't pay for a military so officers can have meetings and walk around in snappy uniforms.

American citizens pay for a military to deal with dangerous crisis situations... if Panetta's people can't handle that, they're useless. And they need to resign.

21 posted on 10/26/2012 10:18:35 AM PDT by GOPJ ('TRUTH is the Enemy of Democrat Thuggishness: Spread it like Napalm!' w/apology to Eric Allen Bell)
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To: chessplayer

If true this means the WH and CIA kept Panetta and DoD out of the loop on this operation

This is entirely plausible

Leon’s comments show the WH and Agency he is not going under any bus because he wasn’t driving ... h@ll, he didn’t even have a bus ticket


22 posted on 10/26/2012 10:18:40 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: chessplayer

So in exactly what variety of “3:00 a.m. call” crisis would these bozos have sufficient intel to use our assets, which cost us taxpayers a whole lot, to protect American lives and property? Would they need the product of a months’ long investigation if Russia launched a limited nuke strike at us? What if it was a misfire or launched by rogue elements? What if George W. Bush infilitrated his way to the red button in Moscow and launched the missiles? We’re still not being given the straight story on Benghazi and they’re still supposedly waiting a clearer picture of events from their “investigation.” Amphibious Ready Group in med, units in Sicily and in North Africa. The former seals “lit up” the mortar that took them out! Obviously they took gear with them expecting to get air support at least if they could hold out. How many hours did they last while the WH et. al. watched? The attacks spanned seven hours.

America still produces heros, thank God. And they’re not the folks who assured the world they’d mete out justice against the youtube trailer guy assuring millions of Muslims would view it who otherwise would never have heard of it.

LOVING THESE POLLS!


23 posted on 10/26/2012 10:26:08 AM PDT by fire and forget
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To: NormsRevenge

Sounds like cowardice to me or a lack of leadership. They needed to make a critical decision quickly in an election year. They didn’t have time to wait until after the election to do it. So, they just let these people be cut down. I feel a little sick by all this.


24 posted on 10/26/2012 10:26:16 AM PDT by virgil
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To: chessplayer

I’m hearing on FOX:
-—The CIA guys asked for help and it was explicitly denied.
-—The CIA guys disobeyed orders and went on the rescue to the consulate.
-—The CIA guys had a laser on the mortar ready for a specter gunship.
-—Obama, Clinton, and Panetta all knew, real time.

I despise anyone who supports Obama. They are simply not American. They are Socialists, or they are insane. They are my mortal enemies.


25 posted on 10/26/2012 10:27:09 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: silverleaf

Leon’s on the clown bus, Barry’s on the short bus.


26 posted on 10/26/2012 10:27:21 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: chessplayer

Weakness appointed to high office.. especially in the military is what democrats do.. SO weak it took them a month to come up with this excuse.. The Libyans are a mob.. all the mercenarys left a good while ago.. Libya has no army..


27 posted on 10/26/2012 10:28:28 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: chessplayer

Panetta lacks intelligence....as in basic intelligence.
He is a tool of the party.


28 posted on 10/26/2012 10:28:45 AM PDT by Rapscallion ( Both are in over their heads, out of their depth and wholly unaware of how they are pervceived.)
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To: chessplayer
Panetta all decided against any intervention as they had no clear picture of events unfolding in Benghazi, he said.

Here's the 'clear picture' - our embassy was under attack. Our people were outnumbered, were calling for backup and would be murdered without help. THAT'S the clear picture.

Maybe Panetta's better at cocktail parties and smoky back rooms with Obama and Putin ...

29 posted on 10/26/2012 10:29:01 AM PDT by GOPJ ('TRUTH is the Enemy of Democrat Thuggishness: Spread it like Napalm!' w/apology to Eric Allen Bell)
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To: GOPJ
Panetta all decided against any intervention as they had no clear picture of events unfolding in Benghazi, he said.

Yet targets on the ground were painted with laser.
30 posted on 10/26/2012 10:32:04 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: magua

Petraeus won’t say anything since he was on the engineering of this fiasco. He overlooked the two former SEALS becoming loose cannons and throwing a wrench into the works.

With all the SOF teams in Sigonella already on the airstrip, I’d guess that it was set up to be a false flag to showcase how Obama can properly flex muscle to rescue hotages.


31 posted on 10/26/2012 10:32:39 AM PDT by damper99
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To: chessplayer

We didn’t save a drowning man, because we didn’t know how deep the water was.

Liars, every damn one of them. Those brave guys were fighting for their lives and they needed back up and what do you political cowards send.....fricking cameras.

Suddenly, we look like the weakest country of cowards on the freaking planet..... and our guys are dead.


32 posted on 10/26/2012 10:34:02 AM PDT by Gator113 (I would have voted for NEWT, now it's Romney & Ryan.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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“Mr. Panetta, we’re getting killed here!” - CIA
“It depends on what the meaning of the word killed is.” - Leon


33 posted on 10/26/2012 10:41:45 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: chessplayer

Hamm Dempsey fired NOW!


34 posted on 10/26/2012 10:44:12 AM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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35 posted on 10/26/2012 10:46:07 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: chessplayer

This is yet another tragic example of why members of the Democrat (Socialist) Party — specifically but not limited to obama, Clinton and Panetta — must never, ever again be given control over the military. They have proven time and again they do not have the competence, wisdom or willingness (read, guts) to use military force even when our people and sovereignty are threatened directly by the enemies of liberty.


36 posted on 10/26/2012 10:54:16 AM PDT by glennaro
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To: massgopguy

A caller on Rush gave a play-by-play run down that shreds the lying Panetta.


37 posted on 10/26/2012 10:57:27 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: magua

At some point he will.
At the point when it’s become quite evident to everyone that Obama is going down in flames..........................


38 posted on 10/26/2012 11:04:34 AM PDT by Red Badger (Why yes, that was crude and uncalled for......That's why I said it..............)
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To: chessplayer

Our citizens were being murdered - what more “intel” did they need? I heard some General saying they couldn’t fire indiscriminatley into a crowd of innocents and I say, “Why NOT?”. When we start caring more for the “bystanders” who show up to watch our people get murrdered, than we do for the people, we are lost. If anyone, anywhere dares commit an act of terror/war against us, I say we level the area so even cockroaches won’t survive and promise more to any nation/city/town/$h—hole that dares test us.


39 posted on 10/26/2012 11:04:42 AM PDT by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: chessplayer

You are watching a live video feed of the attack, you have assets on the ground a mile away, and aircraft in the air, but you didn’t have any intelligence? BS

I agree with the basic premise don’t send folks in blind, but the idea we were completely blind is a lie.


40 posted on 10/26/2012 11:08:23 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: chessplayer

I’m sick to my stomach. For all the Condoleeza Rice fans out there, this is just another reminder of what the animal is. She basically fell in line with Hillary and other femal diplomats blaming everything on the heavy traffic and fog of war. They know soooo much more than the military. They know what someone calling for help means better than we do. This was exactly what the caller to Rush was explaining. This was a matter of decision-making. At five pm eastern time, the decision from POTUS was NO. Disgrace.


41 posted on 10/26/2012 11:08:42 AM PDT by FryingPan101 (2016 looms)
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To: chessplayer

Lack of intel? They were getting real time info from CIA agents. What other kind of intel would they need?

This administration should be tried for treason. Panetta and all of his “generals” should be tried for direlection of duty at a minimum.


42 posted on 10/26/2012 11:14:18 AM PDT by Terry Mross (obama killed the people in Libya.)
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To: chessplayer

The cliff is close


43 posted on 10/26/2012 11:22:56 AM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: Gator113
We didn’t save a drowning man, because we didn’t know how deep the water was...

That's their story - and they're stickin' to it...

44 posted on 10/26/2012 11:27:05 AM PDT by GOPJ ('TRUTH is the Enemy of Democrat Thuggishness: Spread it like Napalm!' w/apology to Eric Allen Bell)
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To: chessplayer
... and firefighters never rush into a building unless they know where all of the potential victims and hot spots are located.

/sarc

45 posted on 10/26/2012 11:31:19 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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My wife pointed out that the dems denied God three times at their convention. And they denied the Seals’ request for help three times.


46 posted on 10/26/2012 11:34:37 AM PDT by Terry Mross (obama killed the people in Libya.)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

To think that this guy was a Republican in the 60’s and 70’s is mind-boggling.

From Wikipedia:

“Panetta started in politics in 1966 as a legislative assistant to Republican Senator Thomas Kuchel, the United States Senate Minority Whip from California, whom Panetta has called “a tremendous role model”.[10]

In 1969 he became the assistant to Robert H. Finch, Secretary of the United States Department of Health, Education, and Welfare under the Nixon administration. Soon thereafter he was appointed Director of the Office for Civil Rights.[11]

Panetta chose to enforce civil rights and equal education laws.[citation needed] Secretary Robert Finch and Assistant Secretary John Veneman refused to fire Panetta, threatening to resign if forced to do so.[citation needed] A few weeks later in 1970, Panetta resigned and left Washington to work as Executive Assistant for John Lindsay, the Republican Mayor of New York City. He wrote about this experience in his 1971 book Bring Us Together.

Panetta switched to the Democratic Party in 1971, because he thought that the Republican Party was moving away from the political center.”

Obviously not a fan of Reagan, but a big fan of libs like that horror of a mayor John V, Lindsay. Explains his thought process.


47 posted on 10/26/2012 11:37:19 AM PDT by princeofdarkness ( Nobama. No more. No way. November 2012.)
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To: GOPJ

Panetta has always been a lying ass-kissing political hack. What qualifications did he ever have to be Sec. Def.? He was put in that position precisely because he’s more than happy to be nothing but a lying ass-kissing political hack. And this is the result.


48 posted on 10/26/2012 11:39:34 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: cripplecreek

This administration has so many lies floating around they are tripped up each time they open their mouths.


49 posted on 10/26/2012 12:26:24 PM PDT by chiefqc
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To: chessplayer

So live feed from a drone, a guy on the phone with GPS coordinates and a laser designator is not enough info?


50 posted on 10/26/2012 12:29:54 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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