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Benghazigate: We Know Now Who Gave the Order Not to Protect the Consulate
Front Page Magazine ^ | October 26, 2012 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 10/26/2012 11:03:03 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: rolling_stone

JMO,the kidnapping plot is the only thing that explains all the things that went down. The withdrawal of security just prior, the refusal to rescue, and the convenient “video” that nobody had ever heard of before the administration brought it up. The failure of the scheme could have been caused by the attempt to aid the Ambassador by the men who were told to “stand down”.


101 posted on 10/26/2012 1:21:23 PM PDT by WVNan
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To: nuconvert

Yes, where was Petraeus? He was soon giving Congress briefings that included suggestions about that “video”.


102 posted on 10/26/2012 1:28:53 PM PDT by Girlene
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
There's a conspiracy on-line that claims that the real reason for the delay, the disastrous coverup-the whole debacle, is that Obozo had planned, with the terrorists to capture the ambasador and then use him as an excuse to trade the “blind sheik” for our guy, and in two strokes, give them back their “martyr” and make Obozo the “hero of the day” thru his “natural rapport” with the moose-limb world. Check it out.
103 posted on 10/26/2012 1:37:27 PM PDT by nomad
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

So, what are the odds the Mooze Lames will do exactly the same sort of things in several places at the same time prior to election day?


104 posted on 10/26/2012 1:40:58 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: castowell; All

“.....The American special operators, Woods, Doherty and at least two others were part of the Global Response Staff, a CIA element, based at the CIA annex and were protecting CIA operators who were part of a mission to track and repurchase arms in Benghazi that had proliferated in the wake of Muammar Qaddafi’s fall. Part of their mission was to find the more than 20,000 missing MANPADS, or shoulder-held missiles capable of bringing down a commercial aircraft. According to a source on the ground at the time of the attack, the team inside the CIA annex had captured three Libyan attackers and was forced to hand them over to the Libyans. U.S. officials do not know what happened to those three attackers and whether they were released by the Libyan forces.......”

http://www.israpundit.com/archives/50224


105 posted on 10/26/2012 1:41:52 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: arthurus
Exactly! No way did this not go to the very top, anyone who believes differently is an idiot.
106 posted on 10/26/2012 1:48:14 PM PDT by pepperdog ( I still get a thrill up my leg when spell check doesn't recognize the name/word Obama!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Re: ...track and repurchase arms.....

A question for anyone who might know the answer. My assumption is these transanction are either done in cash or some type of wire. If cash, who holds the money?

107 posted on 10/26/2012 1:49:19 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: airedale

It was a fubar. They should admit to that and not lay blame on the victims because the victims did not attack themselves. They should not have lied over and over again about it. After the contractors disobeyed orders and successfully evacuated the consulate personnel minus the ambassador, the folks watching this go down should have done whatever they could to save them. But they didn’t. And now two more are dead and who knows how many are still recovering from this terrorist attack.

It is the cover up that is the problem. And that we have a cinc who calls this a “bump in the road” and “not optimal.”


108 posted on 10/26/2012 1:51:33 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: nuconvert
I don’t understand where Petraeus was in all of this.

Have been thinking the same thing for weeks!!! All past CIA Directors were required for press conferences for attacks such as this in the past.

Another strange occurrence is that normally the MSM would be trotting around Richard Clarke. Haven't seen him either.
109 posted on 10/26/2012 1:56:21 PM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (We the People are coming!!)
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To: Bshaw
EXCLUSIVE: CIA operators were denied request for help during Benghazi attack, sources say

........"In fact, at least one member of the team was on the roof of the annex manning a heavy machine gun when mortars were fired at the CIA compound. The security officer had a laser on the target that was firing and repeatedly requested back-up support from a Spectre gunship, which is commonly used by U.S. Special Operations forces to provide support to Special Operations teams on the ground involved in intense firefights."...............

.........."According to sources on the ground during the attack, the special operator on the roof of the CIA annex had visual contact and a laser pointing at the Libyan mortar team that was targeting the CIA annex. The operators were calling in coordinates of where the Libyan forces were firing from. "................
110 posted on 10/26/2012 1:56:41 PM PDT by Girlene
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To: yldstrk
“yes, I agree that explains why the SEALS are dead but it doesn’t explain why no one else acted”

THIS is the point of PC. To condition ALL to follow orders. It was NEVER about —insert PC topic—, rather it was to condition the minds of our forces by demanding they mouth bullshit, salute bullshit and support bullshit. It took 40 years to get us there but we are there now. This disaster will open a lot of eyes among our forces, count on it.

111 posted on 10/26/2012 1:57:11 PM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: ETCS

Wasn’t General Dempsey the one who called Pastor Terry Jones to ask him to denounce the muhammed video a day or two AFTER the attack?”

YES........ he was the arrongant man leaning back in his easy chair on some transport plane, being interviewed about that, at that time. THEN his actions in all this are the last straw.

Write your congressman. Boehner and McConnell are worthless, aren’t they? Someone else knows about this gunruning activity being run out of the fake consulate - messing with Russia and all. This is just sick. Rosenbergs?


112 posted on 10/26/2012 2:00:28 PM PDT by WaterWeWaitinFor (Paul Ryan clings to his gun, sits in his deer stand and is going to be our next VP!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

My vote is for Jarrett; since Obama and Hillary never seem to be around. Hillary drinking and smoking and Obama smoking whatever.


113 posted on 10/26/2012 2:03:19 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: TalBlack; Girlene

PC garbage HAS been pushed on our great military for years. But since The Won is there, gays, gays and more gays, women (not apposed to women in military) but what country puts their women on the front lines?.

I’m so very angry with all this. Our great nation is at risk here worse than we ever thought. This is what we know NOW - what ELSE is going on?

The higher ups in our military are loaded with do gooder, fanny kissing guys that agree with the people in this country that want to bring us down.

God help this country.


114 posted on 10/26/2012 2:06:02 PM PDT by WaterWeWaitinFor (Paul Ryan clings to his gun, sits in his deer stand and is going to be our next VP!)
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To: WaterWeWaitinFor

That Dempsey guy has no business being in uniform


115 posted on 10/26/2012 2:08:44 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: TalBlack
I agree that explains why the SEALS are dead but it doesn’t explain why no one else acted

Because Valerie told Obama not to act, because it was too risky.

Meaning, too risky for her 'friends' in their removal of the CIA group in Syria that is attempting to purchase the 'lost manpads'.

They want you to think of it as 'buying back', but that's not true. These weapons were supplied by IRAN, and that is the secret that Valerie must protect, and it looks like little ole' Barry is going to take the fall for it.

It all goes back to a cargo ship cruising the ocean , supposedly with medical aid (or make up any description you want), but really packed with weaponry.

116 posted on 10/26/2012 2:08:52 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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To: WaterWeWaitinFor

Yes, Dempsey called Jones....not sure what he had to do with that video....but he called him.

General Petraeus also made a public comment about Jones planning to bury a quuran back in 2010 saying it would endanger our troops. It was unusual back then, just like now with Dempsey. Dempsey was just mimicing what Petraeus had already done, even if he didn’t call Jones personally.


117 posted on 10/26/2012 2:10:10 PM PDT by Girlene
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; Travis McGee
I was reading Travis's blog
But while all of that military staging would have happened/did happen during the 6-8 hour battle at the consulate and annex, what the military cannot do on their own say-so is cross an international border without an order from the NCA, the National Command Authority, and that means POTUS, Obama.

Only POTUS can authorize a cross-border hostile mission. That is, guns clear, no official permission from the Tripoli govt (if it really exists outside State Dept fantasies.)

Only one man can pull that trigger and say, “GO!” Obama.

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But no order came, as of midnight in DC. And then none would come. Because the POTUS retired for the night with a “do not disturb” sign on his door, punted, and went to bed, to be well rested for Las Vegas.

Obama knew all this. He did not want to be blamed for giving the order to GO. He did not want to be blamed for giving the order "STAND DOWN". He did not want to accept responsibility for giving any order.

So he ran away, and by deliberate inaction, killed our men in Libya.

118 posted on 10/26/2012 2:11:44 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (political correctness is communist thought control, disguised as good manners)
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To: Girlene

“burn a quran”


119 posted on 10/26/2012 2:14:15 PM PDT by Girlene
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
A question for anyone who might know the answer. My assumption is these transanction are either done in cash or some type of wire. If cash, who holds the money?

The people would want cash. US Dollars in a bag.

After the first few cash transactions, they would realize that there must be tens of millions of dollars in the consulate building. Good enough excuse to rob the place, and grab Stevens for ransom in the process.

120 posted on 10/26/2012 2:16:04 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (political correctness is communist thought control, disguised as good manners)
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To: Ann Archy

LOL The hair stood up on the back of my neck when I heard of both zeros voting early. Better to have as many dumbxxx dems vote now so that they have less of a chance to change their minds the closer we get to 11/6.

Finally saw that ABC finally has this story up on their home page


121 posted on 10/26/2012 2:19:04 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: PapaBear3625

Dereliction of Duty is about as good an excuse as “present” is a Senate vote.


122 posted on 10/26/2012 2:19:10 PM PDT by uncitizen (Religion of Peace my hind end)
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To: drpix

Dempsey needs to be relieved of duty, as well as Panetta.
It my well be that Petraus needs to go as we’ll.


123 posted on 10/26/2012 2:24:58 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: tennmountainman

Toss Brennan on top that pile.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/cia-veteran-john-brennan-has-transformed-us-counterterrorism-policy/2012/10/24/318b8eec-1c7c-11e2-ad90-ba5920e56eb3_story.html

A CIA veteran transforms U.S. counterterrorism policy


124 posted on 10/26/2012 2:29:28 PM PDT by maggief
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

Swiss banks, international wire transfers, and little bags full of diamonds worn by people and slipped by customs.


125 posted on 10/26/2012 2:42:45 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
">>> “There’s a basic principle here, and the basic principle is that you don’t deploy forces into harm’s way without knowing what’s going on, without having some real-time information about what’s taking place,” Panetta told a news conference.<<<"

Why weren't forces deployed to assist the consulate when the ambassador requested help in the weeks (month?) before?

From Stevens point-of-view, there was already a security problem FOR the consulate so they WERE ALREADY in harm's way. Stevens requested help in the past and was repeatedly turned down.

It was known that Stevens (from his point of view) was already in harm's way so why didn't Panetta, with real-time observation, not lean on PROBABLE attack, and helping when there was a security already identified in the weeks (months?) before.

I'm meaning to say - why didn't they say this is probable attack, let's treat it as such and move forward with intense assistance - assistance already available offshore and in Italy.

126 posted on 10/26/2012 2:54:13 PM PDT by hummingbird (Lather, Rinse........BUT DO NOT REPEAT - REPEAT IS A WASTE - A SCAM!)
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To: bestintxas

It is truly bone chilling.


127 posted on 10/26/2012 3:03:09 PM PDT by hummingbird (Lather, Rinse........BUT DO NOT REPEAT - REPEAT IS A WASTE - A SCAM!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I think now we also know why U.S. military personnel in Afghanistan were disarmed when Leon Panetta visited there a while back.

Just read the details of this story, folks. Tyrone Woods and his fellow CIA personnel blatantly violated orders when the went to the aid of the Americans at the U.S. consulate. Good for them. It further reinforces my belief that many U.S. military and civilian personnel operating overseas have lost faith in their own chain of command.

128 posted on 10/26/2012 3:11:30 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: WVNan

Yes the kidnapping scenario makes more and more sense. And if the “kidnappers” thought there wasn’t supposed to be resistance...then when the 2 ex-seals showed up maybe the “kidnappers” thought they were being double crossed by Obama and decided to kill Stevens at that point.


129 posted on 10/26/2012 4:00:52 PM PDT by flowergirl
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Ham, Dempsey, and Panetta are all culpable, but the blame leads to the two heads of this snake - obuma and hillary. IMO, Buckwheat gave the order to the Muslim Brotherhood to attack. He’s the primary villian who should face death by hanging for treason.


130 posted on 10/26/2012 4:18:31 PM PDT by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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To: LurkingSince'98

My airedales like rottweilers......for breakfast. Airedales are stronger, faster, more adgile, smarter and have better endurance. They are more of special operator like Seal then a rottweiler who is more of an ordinary soldier. Of course my airedales all have been around 90 pounds and 27 inches at the shoulder rather than the more common at least on the left coast 65-70 pounds and 24 inches at shoulder.


131 posted on 10/26/2012 5:41:49 PM PDT by airedale
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To: flowergirl

It’s doubtful the truth will ever come out. It never seems to happen with the dems. They always get away with murder.


132 posted on 10/26/2012 6:01:56 PM PDT by WVNan
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To: Alex Murphy

“they were dead the moment they trusted their lives to the Executive Branch. “

So besides saddling us with Trillions in debt, setting race relations back years, this guy has harmed our military by causing those thinking of serving to rethink whether they may be in the next coffin to save a guy his POTUS job.

This is not leadership. It is treason.


133 posted on 10/26/2012 6:18:45 PM PDT by bestintxas (Anyone who votes for Obama after these 4 miserable years needs to take a mandatory citizenship test.)
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To: GeronL; Girlene

Dempsey no busines in uniform.

Boy,........... do I agree with that. What would Patten say? What about Ike? Makes you sick, just sick.

So, let’s get off our duffs and take our country back. It will take years, but we have to start somewhere.


134 posted on 10/26/2012 9:18:50 PM PDT by WaterWeWaitinFor (Paul Ryan clings to his gun, sits in his deer stand and is going to be our next VP!)
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To: MamaTexan
This is beginning to sound more and more like an international version of Fast & Furious!

Because that's exactly what it is.

135 posted on 10/26/2012 11:07:31 PM PDT by ShorelineMike (Constituo, ergo sum.)
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To: bestintxas
So besides saddling us with Trillions in debt, setting race relations back years, this guy has harmed our military by causing those thinking of serving to rethink whether they may be in the next coffin to save a guy his POTUS job.

Which makes even creepier those "We've got your back!" vote-for-Obama commercials. As Glenn Beck pointed out, those commercials never say that Obama's got our backs.

136 posted on 10/27/2012 7:38:46 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: Diogenesis; All
Simply put, Panetta is a liar.
truth is..can anybody name any (verifiable ;)....
truthful individual in this administration?

137 posted on 10/27/2012 9:49:06 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Anger a Conservative by telling a lie; Anger a Liberal by telling the truth. - RWR 8-)
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To: nomad

“There’s a conspiracy on-line that claims that the real reason for the delay, the disastrous coverup-the whole debacle, is that Obozo had planned, with the terrorists to capture the ambasador and then use him as an excuse to trade the “blind sheik” for our guy, and in two strokes, give them back their “martyr” and make Obozo the “hero of the day” thru his “natural rapport” with the moose-limb world.”

Do they really think that releasing the architect of the first WTC bombing, negotiating with terrorists, would help 0 in the polls? I think this is a pretty silly conspiracy theory.


138 posted on 10/28/2012 6:39:01 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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