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Proof that the President is Lying about Benghazi?
BLACKFIVE ^ | 10-26-2012 | Blackfive

Posted on 10/26/2012 5:32:09 PM PDT by servo1969

Bigger than Watergate: Proof that the President is Lying about Benghazi?

Posted By Blackfive • [October 26, 2012]

Having a back and forth with a former legendary Delta operator.  Here is the gist of what he is implying:

The news is breaking today but there is a small bit that is being overlooked.  According to the statements from Fox News:
 
The security officer had a laser on the target that was firing and repeatedly requested back-up support from a Specter gunship, which is commonly used by U.S. Special Operations forces to provide support to Special Operations teams on the ground involved in intense firefights. The fighting at the CIA annex went on for more than four hours — enough time for any planes based in Sigonella Air base, just 480 miles away, to arrive. Fox News has also learned that two separate Tier One Special operations forces were told to wait, among them Delta Force operators.
 
Everyone is reporting this but they are missing a key point.  From the retired Delta operator:
 
Having spent a good bit of time nursing a GLD (ground Laser Designator) in several garden spots around the world, something from the report jumped out at me.
 
One of the former SEALs was actively painting the target.  That means that Specter WAS ON STATION!  Probably an AC130U.  A ground laser designator is not a briefing pointer laser.  You do not "paint" a target until the weapons system/designator is synched; which means that the AC130 was on station.
 
Only two places could have called off the attack at that point; the WH situation command (based on POTUS direction) or AFRICOM commander based on information directly from the target area.
 
If the AC130 never left Sigonella (as Penetta says) that means that the Predator that was filming the whole thing was armed.
 
If that SEAL was actively "painting" a target; something was on station to engage!  And the decision to stand down goes directly to POTUS!

This is far bigger than Watergate.

The second worst feeling in the world has to be the platform crew being desperately asked for help, given a clear target and then having to stand down and watch your fellow Americans die.

The worst has to be the team on the ground knowing that the President just left you to die.

Update:  Even with two Predators on station, one unarmed and filming and one armed, the call to stand down comes from the same sources.  Earlier today, Bob Owens at PJ Media posts about the responsibility of the order to call off the mission as well as some good info about the AC130s on station.

Update 2:  From Adam Baldwin and many of you, here is an audio interview between Rush Limbaugh and a caller identifying as a retired SF Lieutenant Colonel and Special Operations planner for 15 years. 

From The Right Scoop:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lljKmmZyCiw

Update 3: Jeff Emanuel thinks that we might be jumping to conclusions and that Jennifer Griffin at FoxNews might have misreported a statement about active laser on a target. I highly respect Jeff and Jennifer. And either could be correct right now. Hopefully, we'll get some clarification.

Update 4: From quoted retired Delta operator, "Jeff is correct (about lasing without air asset) but the only reason you would do that is to determine a specific grid for indirect fire which the SEAL did not have available. You are in an active firefight against mortars and MGs; there is only one reason to cease returning fire and paint a target and it ain't because you thought it was a good time to pull a PMCS on your fucking GLD."

Update 5: The only way I buy that the former SEAL was lasing the target without an active asset to synch to and destroy the target...maybe, just maybe, it was a last stand move. Maybe he did that to give the inbounds a target if he didn't make it...

Update 6:  Another (very very trusted) source is saying that the AC130 resources were in the middle of a rotation and that the new resources weren't ready yet so no help would come from Sigonella.  So that confirms Panetta's statement.



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; benghazi; obama; shadowwars; threatmatrix; tyranny
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1 posted on 10/26/2012 5:32:15 PM PDT by servo1969
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To: HollyB

Ping


2 posted on 10/26/2012 5:39:14 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: servo1969

I know when Obama is lying.. when his mouth is moving.. yup!


3 posted on 10/26/2012 5:42:39 PM PDT by carlo3b (Less Government, more Fiber..)
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To: HollyB

gunships in the middle of a rotation on sept 11 ?????


4 posted on 10/26/2012 5:43:49 PM PDT by biggredd1
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To: servo1969

BHO2 doesn’t make the decisions - Valerie Jarrett makes the decisions in that White House. And no one is willing to come forward and state the obvious!


5 posted on 10/26/2012 5:45:54 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: servo1969

Bookmarked.


6 posted on 10/26/2012 5:46:17 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: servo1969

No doubt about it, Obama should be impeached immediately!!!! Panetta, Clinton, Rice, Carney, etc. should all be fired in disgrace!!!! I could easily curse these traitors out for eternity.....but my heart is so broken, weeping for those four brave, hero, Americans, Obama deserted and left them out to dry & die, in slaughter and death. God will make his righteous justice with Obama and his evil, hate America minions as he see fit!!!


7 posted on 10/26/2012 5:46:55 PM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX ( My only objective is defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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To: servo1969

I have a hard heart. I didn’t know any of these guys. But I am weeping as I hear these accounts of this vast evil overcoming the Good.

O God, how long? Will You let the forces of the devil triumph? Come quickly, Lord Jesus!


8 posted on 10/26/2012 5:48:08 PM PDT by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare)
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To: servo1969

This is fascinating. But, some of us are not familiar with your military terminology. Could you state it in 2 or 3 simple sentences that would explain it to the man on the street? I’ll share it far and wide, if you can.


9 posted on 10/26/2012 5:48:34 PM PDT by MrChips (MrChips)
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To: servo1969

MSM on total ignore of this story.

This generation’s Watergate.


10 posted on 10/26/2012 5:49:22 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: biggredd1

...my reaction as well, we earlier heard all systems were GO, specialized groups were “in place” military rotation never leaves an opening, never.


11 posted on 10/26/2012 5:52:40 PM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: servo1969

you don’t need all this to prove that Obama is lying about Benghazi


12 posted on 10/26/2012 5:52:58 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: maggief; onyx; stephenjohnbanker; penelopesire

How does this fit in?


13 posted on 10/26/2012 5:53:30 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.)
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To: servo1969
The PROOF 0bama lied was the false narrative which I believe was SCRIPTED for the staged hostage-taking of Ambassador Stevens. Note that security here was drawn-down BEFORE the event to reduce the number of players 'in the know'. There was to be a 'protest over an anti-Islam YouTube video' where Stevens would be taken hostage. 0bama would negotiate a release, possibly in trade for the Blind Sheik and emerge the superhero right before the election.

Strangely, 0bama decided to stick with the 'Anti-Islam video' narrative even though it didn't make sense any more to do so. 0bama went Islamic extremist, mentioning the 'video' SIX TIMES in his U.N. speech. Worse, he said "The future does not belong to those who insult the Prophet Mohammed". In doing so he denounced 'freedom of speech' in America while promoting Sharia Law (Note that the maker of this 'video' was IMMEDIATELY ARRESTED and is STILL in jail pending trial AFTER the election). It is against Sharia Law to insult the Prophet Mohammed; punishable by death. 0bama essentially denounced our Constitution. Apparently, he thinks the "future does not belong to" any culture where freedom of speech reigns supreme, including the United States of America.

0bama should be immediately brought before Congress for impeachment hearings for advocating the overthrow of America's founding principles.

14 posted on 10/26/2012 5:53:30 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: servo1969
If there was a rotation, the Ops guys would have known about it.

This is thee most damning evidence i have seen so far. With Petreaus' statement today, i believe the dam is about to burst.

It will only take one leak of the flight schedules to show who/what was overhead, that the Ops guys would have assumed could have sent missiles onto the target he was painting.

15 posted on 10/26/2012 5:56:44 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature ($1.84 - The price of a gallon of gas on Jan. 20th, 2009.)
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To: TigerClaws

0bama should be very afraid. When he loses the election he will become one of the most hated persons in the leftist world. The MSM may turn on him like a pack of hyenas.


16 posted on 10/26/2012 5:58:21 PM PDT by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts so good.)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
I omitted a very important element that 0bama knew, 2 hours into the attack, that it was indeed a terrorist attack and not a protest. That E-mail IS one of the smoking guns; Blaming 'protest over a video' is a lie from this point forward.
17 posted on 10/26/2012 6:00:48 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature
we have an excellent sample of military "rotation" ...the drones, one was on station ready to return while another showed up to replace the first,so for a brief time both are on location ..that's how rotation is done
18 posted on 10/26/2012 6:02:30 PM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

I’m wondering if 0bama lies on purpose to generate chaos, resulting in all of our sources and methods being known for all the world to see. A way for 0bama to embassass the United States and blow it’s cover in the world of intelligence.. Like the Pakistani doctor who worked for us.. In jail now for decades to come.. All covers blown.. This is 0bama’s dangerous legacy. Will we ever recover? We recovered from Carter’s similar undoings. Barely. This time it could be irreversible.. 0bama’s thrown entire countries, once our allies, to the enemies side.


19 posted on 10/26/2012 6:05:09 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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