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To: Hojczyk

Long ago I was a SEAL officer and I attended many joint and combined operational planning meetings in the USA, abroad, and on ships at sea. This type of rescue mission is called a “NEO” operation, for Non-combatant Evacuation Operation. Every embassy and consulate has and practices all kinds of emergency evac plans, in concert with the US military.

For example, Marines and SEALs practice NEO ops prior to deploying on every float, as a VERY high priority mission. They involve full dress-rehearsals, with civilian role players, helos, landing craft, rounding up stranded stragglers, opfor ambushes, role-playing “angry mobs,” fighting your way to LZs or even beaches while protecting a gaggle of civilians down to babies etc. Conducting successful NEO ops is a TOP TOP TOP military and state department mission priority. I cannot emphasize this enough. NEO ops are planned and practiced over and over and over.

When the alarm goes off worldwide that an embassy or consulate is being attacked, the entire U.S. military swings into rescue mode, without waiting for any orders from the White House. The military does all of the operational planning and begins to execute the rescue op.

The one thing they CAN’T do is cross an international border without permission from POTUS. So the US Military will be inbound full-steam-ahead to make the rescue, and all they need from POTUS is a “proceed” order. In this case, they got a “stand down” instead.

This is at the POTUS level, it is not a decision taken at State. State and the military (JCS) should be in the Situation Room with POTUS soon after a critical incident like this begins, so all decisions can be made in real time. (I have heard nowhere that POTUS went into the Situation Room at all. Apparently he went to the Oval Office briefly, but not down to the Situation Room, where the “war planning” screens, full staffs and commo tools are all located for dealing with a major crisis.)

But if POTUS punts after a brief Oval Office meeting with Dempsey and Hillary and goes upstairs to the family quarters....the stranded Americans will die.

Only POTUS can give the order to cross international borders. Only POTUS can allow US warplanes to give air support to Americans battling on the ground in a foreign country. If POTUS makes himself unavailable, the Americans will die.

Even the VEEP or Secretary of State cannot make that call. The VEEP can only do it if the POTUS is determined to be medically unable to perform his functions. If the POTUS goes upstairs and turns off his phone, there is nothing anybody can do about it. Nothing. And the besieged Americans will die.

On Friday an anonymous Pentagon insider (”Doug”) called into Rush with a lot of new details about this disgraceful fiasco. But what we really need now is for a high-ranking officer with insider knowledge to go public, risk his pension and career, and tell the truth.

The blame for this humiliating and shameful national disgrace is pointing directly at the POTUS, and America needs to know why the inbound rescue operation was aborted.


4 posted on 10/27/2012 7:07:52 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee
A simple "Thank You" will never begin to cover how I feel about the work you and your fellow veterans have done but it is a start.

God Bless

5 posted on 10/27/2012 7:18:15 AM PDT by New Perspective (Proud father of a 8 yr old son with Down Syndrome and fighting to keep him off Obama's death panels.)
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To: Travis McGee

I am willing to believe anything about “Obama” - anything.

One of the troubles with wrapping your head around the last four years is that there are too many things to consider believing - it is such an incredible period in our history.

Do you have an idea about “Obama” and motive for a stand down order? It could not do him any good to abort a rescue mission, only seven weeks away from “more flexibility”. A successful rescue (good odds, not a sure thing) would have helped him tremendously. A Desert One replay would have cost him, sure, but not as much as this is costing.

I don’t get it.


6 posted on 10/27/2012 7:27:27 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown are by desperate appliance relieved or not at all.)
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To: Travis McGee

Travis - first thank you for my freedom and the rights I enjoy.

Thank you also for confirming what Doug said on Rush!


7 posted on 10/27/2012 7:45:21 AM PDT by fremont_steve
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To: Travis McGee

Travis is spot on in his assesment. As a Marine I was involved in NEO ops training before deploying wth the 11th and 15 MEUs. The other point that needs to hammered over and over is the fact that one of the CIA operators was on the roof with a Laser Target Designator and was activly painting targets. He would not have been painting targets unless an aircraft was already on station.
There are certain handoffs that have to be made between the operator on the ground and the aircraft overhead when using the Laser Designator. One of which is the aircraft acknowledging the the laser coding from that designator.
In the Marine Corps when Close Air Support is brought in the Marine on the ground gives the pilot the grid coordinate of the target, the wind speed on the deck, the enemy situation to include number of enemy and type of equipment. He also gives the pilot his laser coding. The pilot will then give a “read back” of the info passed to him and and a Time on Target for delivery of weapons. I gaurantee that this procedure was done and the aircrew was waiting for the go call. These men were left to twist in the wind by the President.


8 posted on 10/27/2012 8:03:00 AM PDT by sean327 (God created all men equal, then some become Marines!)
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