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California poll shows Obama with smaller lead
LA Times ^ | 10-27

Posted on 10/27/2012 7:27:49 AM PDT by Arthurio

Even in vividly blue California, President Obama's luster has faded since his historic victory here in 2008, a new poll has found.

Despite his sizable lead over Mitt Romney, the president is unlikely to repeat his historic 2008 margin of victory here because of his diminished power to pull in people who don't traditionally support Democrats, according to the USC Dornsife/Los Angeles Times poll.

The drop in appeal across party and demographic lines has translated, at this point, to a 14-point edge over the Republican nominee among likely voters — well below Obama's 24-point victory in 2008, the biggest margin in modern

The same trends that are making the presidential contest tight in the battleground states are evident in California, particularly the decline in support for Obama among white voters and men. In 2008, Obama won male voters by 18 percentage points over Republican nominee John McCain; he currently leads Romney by 1 point among likely male voters. Among white men, Obama beat McCain by two percentage points; Romney now leads among them by 17 points.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: US: California
KEYWORDS: 2012polls; bluestates; ca2012

1 posted on 10/27/2012 7:27:52 AM PDT by Arthurio
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To: Arthurio

A lot of that “Edge” has returned to Mexico since they couldn’t find any jobs in Obama’s/Moonbeam’s Kalifornia.


2 posted on 10/27/2012 7:30:46 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Arthurio

Arnold ruined any chance we had at making a race out of California. They did it to themselves, then gave the “republican” a chance to fix it. Now the republican brand is tied to Arnold and GWB. California is a lost cause. Going back to the Gray Davis recall election, we should have backed Tom McClintock. He was clearly the competant one of the bunch, but instead we wanted the moronic “rock star”


3 posted on 10/27/2012 7:32:46 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: Don Corleone

Thank God for the Mexican exodus, even if it was enough of them. I hope Romney seals the border and they never come back.


4 posted on 10/27/2012 7:33:01 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: Arthurio

$crew Kalifornia—Let ‘em whither and die.


5 posted on 10/27/2012 7:34:55 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Re-distribute my work ethic, not my wealth.)
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To: wolfman23601

Arnold just hurried the process


6 posted on 10/27/2012 7:40:35 AM PDT by Fai Mao
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To: Arthurio

I would not be surprised if Obama carries the Left Coast states with a plurality of the popular vote.

That prospect has prompted the White House to arrange new ad buys in CA, OR and WA - states that should be safely locked up.

Its that bad out there.


7 posted on 10/27/2012 7:41:10 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved FrieGrnd Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Arthurio

I had to read to the end of the article to find out that Obama is beating independents 54 to 34 percent. Is that credible? Of course this is a poll of registered voters, not likely voters.

Also, I couldn’t find the actual poll numbers in the story for the whole sample. What kind of reporting is this? It only states that Obama is 14 points ahead.

It also says 51 percent think the nation is headed in the wrong direction? So, why would they vote for Obama?

Particularly galling was the quote from a radical feminist Hispanic who supports abortion who applauds the President’s Executive Order to allow young illegal immgirants to stay in America.


8 posted on 10/27/2012 7:41:10 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: Don Corleone

That and the fact that smart people (which apparently doesn’t include me) are leaving for greener pastures....or Texas.


9 posted on 10/27/2012 7:42:41 AM PDT by JoeDetweiler
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To: wolfman23601
I don't blame Arnold totally-- he did try....

The California special election of 2005 was called by Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger. California voters rejected all eight ballot propositions. Propositions 73, 76, and 77 were initiative constitutional amendments while the others were initiative statutes. The election was believed to have been the most expensive in California history. Lobby groups spent hundreds of millions of dollars on gathering signatures and advertising for this election. Schwarzenegger called the election to allow voters to decide on propositions regarding teacher tenure requirements (Proposition 74), the use of union dues for political campaign contributions (Proposition 75), state budgetary spending limits (Proposition 76), and redistricting (Proposition 77).

All those props were voted down by the morons of Ca.

10 posted on 10/27/2012 7:48:03 AM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: Don Corleone

Kalifornja


11 posted on 10/27/2012 7:49:07 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: Don Corleone

Obama’s/Moonbeam’s Kalifornia
******
Mexifornia


12 posted on 10/27/2012 7:54:47 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: tflabo

If none of the tax increase propositions passes and proposition 32 (bans involuntary political contributions), there still might be hope for us in CA.

Prop 32 has an excellent chance of passing and the tax increases props have been competing against each other and have been declining in popularity.


13 posted on 10/27/2012 7:55:27 AM PDT by chrisinoc
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To: Arthurio
. . . [Obama] currently leads Romney by 1 point among likely male voters, [BUT] among white men . . . Romney now leads . . . by 17 points.

This says everything about the demographic mountain in CA.

We share CA with Mexico.

14 posted on 10/27/2012 7:55:27 AM PDT by StandAndDeliver1
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To: wolfman23601
Now the republican brand is tied to Arnold and GWB. California is a lost cause. Going back to the Gray Davis recall election, we should have backed Tom McClintock. He was clearly the competant one of the bunch, but instead we wanted the moronic “rock star”

You are full of it. The Republican brand was in deep trouble thanks to Pete Wilson and Prop 187. In CA, GWB did far more damage than Arnold. McClintock would never have won the recall just as he failed to win other statewide offices every single time.

As a larger than life figure, Arnold was potentially the right candidate but the voters abandoned him too quickly when he pushed for reforms at the ballot box in 2005. The unions ran $100 million in ads to destroy him all year long and the extremist legislature became intransigent. Without any assurance of voter support, he found no option but to go left for survival.

15 posted on 10/27/2012 7:56:19 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Osama's dead... and so is our ambassador - Coulter.)
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To: Arthurio

The more truth that comes out this week on how Bam Bam and his Regime helped kill the four heroes in Benghazi, the cowardly liars lead may go completely away in CA and Oregon.


16 posted on 10/27/2012 8:02:51 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Arthurio

BHOSHRINK


17 posted on 10/27/2012 8:06:19 AM PDT by FrankR (They will become our ultimate masters the day we surrender the 2nd Amendment.)
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To: Arm_Bears
$crew Kalifornia leftists, 3rd world socialist imports —Let ‘em whither and die. all move south of the border.

There, fixed it as truly 'optimal'.

18 posted on 10/27/2012 8:07:43 AM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: ExTexasRedhead
I agree...that is IF the media doesn't deep-six this story quickly, which seems more than likely. This is the kind of crap I'm hearing out of the 0bama/Clinton media:

Obama administration officials defended their response to the September attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, amid new claims that the White House failed to send help quickly enough as militants overran the mission.

19 posted on 10/27/2012 8:18:55 AM PDT by Bon of Babble (The Road to Ruin is Always Kept in Good Repair)
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To: chrisinoc
Prop 32 has an excellent chance of passing

I hope you're right, the unions have been burying 32 in ads that are so far from the truth I've never seen anything like it.

If it wins in spite of that it means people are finally starting to see through union BS.

20 posted on 10/27/2012 8:24:16 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: wolfman23601
...we should have backed Tom McClintock. He was clearly the competant one of the bunch, but instead we wanted the moronic “rock star”

I and many others backed and voted for McClintock. He would have made a great governor.

But the GOPe, as they are prone to do, wanted one of their own (read: not conservative) in so they pushed the Kennedy into office and the rest is history.

Careful with the use of the word "we"...

21 posted on 10/27/2012 8:30:22 AM PDT by Syncro (The Tea Party is Dead-->MSM/Dems/GOP-e -- LONG LIVE THE TEA PARTY!)
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To: wolfman23601
Going back to the Gray Davis recall election, we should have backed Tom McClintock. He was clearly the competant one of the bunch, but instead we wanted the moronic “rock star”

I tend to agree. McClintock wasn't the most charismatic guy but he was known even back then as an economic fixer, and Bustamonte was such an unappealing candidate I doubt very much he would've beaten him.

That was the GOP's swan song here & Arnold really messed things up for us.

22 posted on 10/27/2012 8:30:22 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Arm_Bears

We are withering and dying politically, economically and morally.

Not everyone in Ca (Ka, if you prefer) is a flaming Hollywood type liberal, myself included. Thankfully, I live in a conservative pocket in So. Kal. But if I was living in another state, I probably would come to the same conclusion as you did.


23 posted on 10/27/2012 8:37:49 AM PDT by RacerX1128 (Cornered in CA)
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To: Bon of Babble

These murders at the hands of this Regime is the topic of conversation everywhere. It is NOT going away. Count on it. Everyone is big-time pissed.


24 posted on 10/27/2012 8:38:21 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: wolfman23601

“we should have backed Tom McClintock.”

Or, even better, there should have been no recall. Gray Davis and the rats should have been allowed to take the state down all by themselves. That way, the stupid voters would have had no choice but to assign responsibility to the right spot. Instead, we let Arnold be standing around while the assembly took the state down, which it was going to do one way or the other.

BTW, I said this at the time of the recall.


25 posted on 10/27/2012 8:51:02 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: Arthurio
Romney needs to do what Reagan did and NATIONALIZE this election

Make it about rejecting the NEW Democrap party as the home of tax-and-spend socialists, and the Republican party as the party to cut government down to size.

26 posted on 10/27/2012 9:02:25 AM PDT by Mr. K ("The only thing the World would hate more than the USA in charge is the USA NOT in charge")
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To: wolfman23601

” Going back to the Gray Davis recall election, we should have backed Tom McClintock. He was clearly the competant one of the bunch, but instead we wanted the moronic “rock star”

Yeah, if we had elected Tom, we would have at least had a fighting chance to turn things around because the people were pissed off at Jerry the Fairy’s former chief of staff Gray (Pay to Play) Davis. Instead the fools here voted for a guy who has, in hindsight, gone through life with an open fly and a RAT agenda.


27 posted on 10/27/2012 9:40:37 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: newzjunkey

“You are full of it. The Republican brand was in deep trouble thanks to Pete Wilson and Prop 187.”

Horse Crap! Prop 187 was approved by the voters and has been sidelined by Marxist Judge Marianna Phaelzer. 187 would have made a big difference here had the court “allowed” the will of the people to stand. Today, no one even remembers who Pete Wilson was, but they do know that Arnold was a useless pud who spent more time with his housekeeper than he did at being our governor. Both of us got screwed in the process!


28 posted on 10/27/2012 9:45:51 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: tflabo

All true about Arnold. We voted him in, and he began doing what he said he’d do. They when he asked for more help via referendum, we cut his legs out from under him. After that, it was like “oh, you really want to keep the status quo after all? Fine, that’s what I’ll give you”. Then he got called RINO.


29 posted on 10/27/2012 10:41:33 AM PDT by CPO retired
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