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Panetta Says We Lacked Real-Time Benghazi Intel
IBD EDITORIALS ^ | October 27, 2012 | Staff

Posted on 10/27/2012 7:29:20 AM PDT by raptor22

Edited on 10/27/2012 8:13:21 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: xzins

And by the way, don’t be the slightest bit surprised if “Hurricane Sandy” is little more than a drenching rainstorm. It amazes me how, last week, the storm was headed safely out to sea, toward Greenland. I saw that weather forecast with my own two eyeballs. Then the story changed.


101 posted on 10/27/2012 11:20:57 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Sir Clancelot

There was an interesting suggestion in a column on the Coach Is Right blog today: The Obama Administration had already jumped on Romney for his criticism of the apology by our Eqyptian embassy. They wanted to use the Benghazi attack as further proof that the Eqyptian embassy’s apology for the movie was appropriate, and therefore Romney’s criticism was ill-founded.

Seeing how the Obama Administration has misjudged the magnitude of other so-called Romney “gaffes,” I find this suggestion to be quite credible. Somehow, a disaster in Benghazi, if caused by that video, would be a weapon for Obama against Romney.


102 posted on 10/27/2012 12:08:11 PM PDT by Rocky (Obama is pure evil.)
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To: DarthVader

Leon is right. He lacked intelligence, and still does, and so does Hillary and O. They have their heads so far up their asses when they fart they think it’s fresh air.


103 posted on 10/27/2012 1:00:29 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: barryobi

I am racking my brain trying to recall any ANY battle in history in which the commander of forces had BETTER “real time information” than these dopes had about Benghazi!


104 posted on 10/27/2012 1:09:24 PM PDT by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
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To: barryobi

Update 6, if true, begs the question: Who in the Sam Hill decided to schedule a rotation of rapid-reaction forces on an anniversary of 9/11? Such a decision wreaks of incompetence.

No matter though: a couple jets coming through and strafing, or threatening to strafe, the “mob action” this administration claimed to believe would have scared them away without further ado. On the other hand, if terrorists were attacking our guys, the strafing would kill at least some of them instead of allowing them to kill our men without retribution.


105 posted on 10/27/2012 1:17:35 PM PDT by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
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To: I want the USA back

I believe that as slimy as he is, when Panetta is eventually put under oath in Congress, he will testify truthfully and at that time stop protecting the administration.


106 posted on 10/27/2012 1:19:51 PM PDT by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
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To: raptor22
Info on Benghazi keeps coming out.....

Check the keyword for Benghazi....absolute torrents of articles and statements.

Saw an abbreviated Brett Baer Special Report on the Benghazi coverup ,...attack this morning.

Expect more to be shown tonight and Sunday ...believe at 10 pm EST.

Graphic by LadyJag!


107 posted on 10/27/2012 1:21:33 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Travis McGee

Well, there you have it — Obongo Bozo was, indeed, asleep at the switch!

IMHO, that is an impeachable offense.

HST, there are bits and pieces of two stories swirling around the Internet that the attack on the Benghazi Mission was to be the “October Surprise.”

The plan, so the stories I have read, was that the Ambassador was to be kidnapped by Libyan thugs and either rescued by the Regime in a military operation or exchanged for the Blind Sheik before the election.

That plan would have worked, if and only if, there was diminished security around the Ambassador. IOW, increased security on 9-11-12 and/or mounting the rescue mission after the attack began would have prevented the kidnapping.

With no kidnapped Ambassador to rescue or ransom, the “October Surprise” would have been a colossal failure.

When the Ambassador died, the whole scheme blew up in the Regime’s face, and they had to go to a deeply flawed LIE and cover up plan, which obviously had not been thought all the way through.

Having failed at “October Surprise #1,” one has to wonder what “October Surprise #2” is?

BTW, Travis, have you wondered why there were no OBAs (or weapons, for that matter) in the Mission “Safe Room?” My understanding is that the Ambassador and his aide died of smoke inhalation.

PS You might want to update your profile page — the links do not work.


108 posted on 10/27/2012 1:24:20 PM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

“... If it was George Bush, a SEAL team would have gone in ... and the only way anyone would have known this took place would be because 2 days later, CNN would be reporting that an American assassination squad ... murder[ed] innocent civilians having a wedding ...”

ROTFL - - - sadly. First time I have chucked in days, I think.


109 posted on 10/27/2012 1:24:59 PM PDT by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
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To: AFPhys

If you had a couple FA-18’s break the sound barrier over Benghazi and strafe the mortar team, I guarantee these weasels would have fled like scared rats. No way they would have stuck around.


110 posted on 10/27/2012 1:26:47 PM PDT by barryobi
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“...you make Jimmy Carter look like John Wayne, you’re doin’ it wrong, Barack”


111 posted on 10/27/2012 1:29:19 PM PDT by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Travis McGee

BIDEN: "INTELLIGENCE IS ALWAYS LACKING WITH US"

112 posted on 10/27/2012 1:29:36 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Fakistan)
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To: cpdiii

My strong suspicion is that he heard/saw the drone(s) circling and illuminated targets “in the blind” hoping (against hope) that they had weaponry aboard, though there was no way he could know that for sure.


113 posted on 10/27/2012 1:33:09 PM PDT by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
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To: hinckley buzzard
“Maybe no AC130 was there, but Benghazi is right on the coast—are we to believe that all our combined military resources in the area including offshore Naval assets didn't have a few helicopter gunships and a platoon of Marines available within an hour's flight time? If so then Romney is right—our Navy is not big enough. “

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BINGO!

114 posted on 10/27/2012 1:37:46 PM PDT by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
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To: 4Liberty

“Why does WH believe voters will nod their heads and say, Yes, incompetence is an acceptable excuse and good substitute for the only other explanation — corruption and deliberate negligence?”

So many GREAT observations on this thread!


115 posted on 10/27/2012 1:39:30 PM PDT by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
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To: All
Do we know whether there were other Woods/Dougherty types that survived and escaped with the rest of the staff?

We can suppose all the evacuees were sequestered, debriefed, etc. Apparently none of them have been allowed to speak to anyone about what went on. Surely none of them waxed poetic about protests or videos, but rather had pithy facts to filter to our top echelons within 24 hours of their escape, so as to provide eye-witness intelligence to the WH, DoS and our pathetic UN ambassador!

No, the surviving Benghazi staff and potentially other Annex operatives have been purposely handled in such a way as to keep to the top dogs' lies from being exposed, which further shows the administration's conspiracy and mendacity.

HF

116 posted on 10/27/2012 1:56:52 PM PDT by holden
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To: xzins

My gut assessment completely agrees with your post here. The 20,000 or thereabouts MANPADS given to “Libyan rebels” during the “arab spring” in Libya is almost certainly the dead body in this mystery.

I recall that during this arming of Libyan rebels many of us here at FR were quite angry and cautioning about the foolhardiness of that action since it was clear that AlQ was clearly part of the “rebels”. I am getting more confident that we were accurate, unfortunately.

Again, this is something that the administration does not dare to breath a word about.


117 posted on 10/27/2012 2:01:58 PM PDT by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
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To: Blue Highway

I had a “what did he say” moment the other day on Fox News, when O’Reilly made a statement giving Panetta credit as a good and honest man. Did O’Reilly forget this was Clinton’s Chief of Staff?


O Reilly forgets that we have memories

He wants to come off as more knowledgeable than the rest of us.

Well Bill. No way, some of us see through the smoke screen.


118 posted on 10/27/2012 2:04:18 PM PDT by patriotspride
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To: Mygirlsmom

“No kidding - these are the same people who wanted to fry President Bush for taking a few seconds to collect his thoughts in front of a group of children when he was told of the original 9/11 attacks.”

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Yet another spectacular observation on this thread! FReepers are amazing.


119 posted on 10/27/2012 2:05:34 PM PDT by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
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To: raptor22

nobody believes this. at least we can jail and hang panetta for treason.


120 posted on 10/27/2012 2:37:39 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: raptor22

Odungo called it in....Americans died


121 posted on 10/27/2012 2:51:20 PM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Right on the mark. Great post.


122 posted on 10/27/2012 3:06:51 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Travis McGee

“But what we really need now is for a high-ranking officer with insider knowledge to go public, risk his pension and career, and tell the truth.”

Thank you Travis. I agree, in fact, I’d like to see more of the families of the fallen speak out. However, the question is...anyone willing to risk everything could tell the truth to whom? Even with everything we already know, including Mr. Woods’ speaking out, and all that has been proven til now...only Fox is covering it....I keep skimming every other station and thus far have found absolutely no reports on what really happened in Benghazi...not even a soundbite of Mr. Woods.... We’re preaching to the choir. We need to find a way to FORCE the media, because if and when they finally do give it some coverage, it will be on Obama’s terms.


123 posted on 10/27/2012 3:44:53 PM PDT by Kimberly GG ("Path to Citizenship" Amnesty candidates will NOT get my vote!)
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To: Kimberly GG

Well, I have the feeling the story is getting around. Up to some 20,000 comments on it on yahoo tonight. People are getting wind of it ...and it’s NOT pretty.

Comments also on gun running to terrorists also starting to peek out from behind the curtain.

hmmm, hmmm, hmmm.


124 posted on 10/27/2012 5:02:09 PM PDT by LibsRJerks
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To: I want the USA back

Panetta is about to wreck his public life. The stench of this will bring him down.


125 posted on 10/27/2012 5:17:56 PM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: raptor22

Let’s keep it simple.

The US govt and NCA had real time intel from an ex-SEAL on the ground throughout the event.

No other resources required.


126 posted on 10/27/2012 5:20:45 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: raptor22
you don't deploy forces into harm's way without knowing what's going on, without having some real-time information about what's taking place."

Leon, we already had forces so much in harms way they were under heavy incoming fire.

127 posted on 10/27/2012 5:51:56 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: raptor22

I’m sorry to say when in HS/college( that summer) I helped the committee to elect Panetta; still talk to his family only nowadays, last 30 years or so I haven’t had much nice to say so it’s very small talk( 75 or 76 I can’t remember, dagums, oh well)


128 posted on 10/27/2012 8:36:33 PM PDT by Karliner ( Jeremiah 29:11, Romans 8:28, Romans 8:38"...this is the end of the beginning."WC)
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To: xzins

Jeepers. Thank you so much for your insights, dear brother in Christ!


129 posted on 10/27/2012 8:41:43 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: raptor22

Hey Leon...my grand kids said your pants are on fire.


130 posted on 10/27/2012 8:44:39 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: raptor22
Leon Panetta is a

BULLSHITTER

I feel so presidential saying that. :/

131 posted on 10/27/2012 8:56:44 PM PDT by Publius Maximus (It was a nice Republic, while it lasted.)
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To: raptor22

So real-time video doesn’t mean real-time intel. Nice.


132 posted on 10/27/2012 9:51:31 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: raptor22

” - - - Despite real-time video, emails to the White House and desperate cries for help, our defense secretary says we didn’t send rescue forces to our Benghazi consulate because we didn’t know what was going on.”

A concise documentation of Obama’s Military incompetence. Obama must Impeached before January 20, 2013, and then stripped of any honor bestowed on him in his first term.

The Impeachment of “Benghazi” Obama, needs to be a strong example of scoring political points against incompetent politicians by all those who love America.


133 posted on 10/27/2012 10:07:27 PM PDT by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Graewoulf; raptor22; SeekAndFind; 2ndDivisionVet; detective; FlingWingFlyer; All

Can “Pansy” Panetta be tried for murder in US Military Courts Martial?


134 posted on 10/27/2012 10:16:07 PM PDT by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Scotswife

Check out post #5 from Freeper null and void to find out what happened to General Ham. I hope you’re sitting down.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2951304/posts


135 posted on 10/27/2012 10:17:08 PM PDT by Bubbette
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To: Bubbette

Wow. OK - so that would have happened on 9/11.

So what has he been doing ever since?
Has he made any statements?


136 posted on 10/27/2012 10:22:55 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: Scotswife

This is where that info came from....www.stripes.com in the comments section. Stripes was the source for the thread on the Navy Rear Admiral being recalled that I originally sourced.

General Ham’s replacement is already nominated and ready to go for Senate confirmation!


137 posted on 10/27/2012 10:50:59 PM PDT by Bubbette
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To: Kimberly GG

Lt. Col Andrew Wood is the one that brought the security situation to light. Here is his opening statement to the Congressional Hearing. You can watch the entire thing on YouTube, it is chilling! I dvr’d it and have watched twice. Too much to absorb in one sitting.

Upon hearing of the death of Ambassador Stevens and later of the Congressional inquiry, I identified myself to my Congressional Representative’s staff as a person with intimate knowledge of the security situation prior to the attack. I was subsequently contacted and began a dialogue with staff investigators.
I made a personal decision to come forward with information and do not represent DoD or any government agency. I had unique access and placement to many government leaders and agencies working in Libya. I feel duty bound to come forward in order to inform and provide a portion of ground truth information. I feel a sense of honor for those individuals who have died in the service of their country.

http://www.whatthefolly.com/2012/10/11/transcript-testimony-of-lt-col-andrew-wood-at-the-house-oversight-committee-hearing-on-the-security-failures-in-benghazi/


138 posted on 10/27/2012 10:53:34 PM PDT by panthermom (Pray for our troops!)
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To: Cvengr

Yes!!! They were ex SEALs not tourists from Georgia! They KNEW better than anyone how to communicate what was going on!!

This whole thing makes me literally sick to my stomach!


139 posted on 10/27/2012 10:56:37 PM PDT by panthermom (Pray for our troops!)
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To: 4Liberty

“Why does WH believe voters will nod their heads and say, Yes, incompetence is an acceptable excuse and good substitute for the only other explanation — corruption and deliberate negligence?”

They figure voters want Big Bird, birth control, bennies and ‘bortions.


140 posted on 10/27/2012 11:34:16 PM PDT by ari-freedom
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To: AFPhys

Because most Democrats will do it.


141 posted on 10/28/2012 3:58:56 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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142 posted on 10/28/2012 6:02:23 AM PDT by devolve ( ---- ---- ---- -CHEESEBURGER_CHEESEBURGER_CHEESEBURGER- ---- ---- ---- ---- John Belusi ---- ----)
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.

- Pansetta?

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143 posted on 10/28/2012 6:13:17 AM PDT by devolve ( ---- ---- ---- -CHEESEBURGER_CHEESEBURGER_CHEESEBURGER- ---- ---- ---- ---- John Belusi ---- ----)
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To: devolve

...Puñettas


144 posted on 10/28/2012 6:17:50 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood ("Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???")
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To: Iron Munro

Panetta is just another Clinton era liberal retread.

He aided and abetted the lies and cover ups of Clinton and now does the same for Obama.

Panetta cannot be trusted any more than any other democrat.


Telling that he couldn’t maintain eye contact while delivering his weasel
Worded response.

Those of us who have served know he violated “ no man left behind “ based on the politics of the situation.

Now we know who the real BS ers are.


145 posted on 10/28/2012 6:31:45 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: raptor22

A suggestion/warning for all ambassadors/embassy staff posted in dangerous areas.

Don’t depend on help from POTUS, SOD, SOS or the CIA! They will not respond to any SOS’s. Then they will deny that you asked for help.

Buy or rent an Iridium Sat Phone and put Fox News Desk, Rush, Drudge, Rush and Free Republic on your speed dial, to text or call when you don’t want to be slaughtered and need help.

That way the liars of this administration in charge of denying protection for you, can’t deny that you asked for help.

Don’t waste your remaining time contacting ABCNNBCBS! They are too busy protecting Obozo and his liars while looking for binder and racism lies save the butt of the traitor and his fellow thugs!

https://www.satellitephonestore.com/iridium-9505a-complete-kit


146 posted on 10/28/2012 8:30:00 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (We are the 53%, who pay taxes and keep this country going inspite of the 47% rat moochers!)
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To: Travis McGee

FWIW, my brother confirms what you said.


147 posted on 10/28/2012 4:18:13 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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