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Unfolding Libyan scandal could sink Obama and end Hillary’s political career
Irish Central ^ | 10/26/12 | Ed Farnan

Posted on 10/27/2012 9:49:55 AM PDT by Libloather

Unfolding Libyan scandal could sink Obama and end Hillary’s political career
by Ed Farnan
Posted on Friday, October 26, 2012 at 04:57 PM

As more information comes out on the murder of our Libyan Ambassador and 3 other Americans during the assault in Benghazi…. the more incriminating it gets for the higher ups in Washington DC.

**SNIP**

The latest bombshell now shows the attack was a 7 hour ordeal. There was plenty of time to send help to the besieged Americans. Repeated pleas for help from those on the scene were denied by those higher up.

At one point during the battle a CIA operative pinpointed the mortar team which was bombarding the complex. He radioed for fire support from a Specter gunship, commonly used by U.S. Special Ops to provide support to teams on the ground. Even though an American airbase was only an hour away, no gunships arrived.

Further, Fox News learned, no Tier One Special operations forces, among them Delta Force operators, showed up to help, which were also within range and able to help if authorized.

(Excerpt) Read more at irishcentral.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: benghazi; clinton; hillary; libya; nationalsecurityfail; obama
Doing the job Big Media won't...
1 posted on 10/27/2012 9:50:05 AM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

You can bet the commie libs are wearing out a lot of prayer rugs saying, “Come on Sandy the Hurricane!” It’s their last hope. Their “media” needs to talk about something else to get Benghazi and the economy out of the news.


2 posted on 10/27/2012 9:53:26 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Osama bin Laden is dead, Chrysler moved to Italy and China.)
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To: Libloather

The sad thing here is just the reaction of ten good Marines landing in the mess....would have likely made the administration look good....even if they were too late to save the Ambassador. Ten Marines would have left a hundred of the attackers dead on the ground.


3 posted on 10/27/2012 9:55:13 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Libloather

FOX is the only news group giving this any traction. Until the LSM starts turing the heat on Obozo and company NOTHING will happen. Look at “Fast and Furious”


4 posted on 10/27/2012 9:58:34 AM PDT by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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To: Libloather
Doing the job Big Media won't...

Benghazi should sink big media as well. Or at least put another large nail in the coffin.

5 posted on 10/27/2012 10:00:07 AM PDT by MulberryDraw (That which cannot be paid, won't be paid.)
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To: Libloather

End their careers? Yeah, lots of luck with that. First of all, Republican leadership will CERTAINLY not prosecute Hussein if his voter fraud doesn’t push him over the top next month. And if he DOES manufacture enough phony votes to win, Republicans like Boehner and Mitchie the Kid in the senate will not push too hard lest they be labeled raaaacists or sore losers! Eric Holder will say there is an internal investigation under way and the Regime is therefore not able to comment until that investigation id “finished.” And three years later, investigators will find Hussein not guilty of any wrongdoing. Case closed, mainly thanks to feckless, gutless Republicans as usual.


6 posted on 10/27/2012 10:00:19 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: Libloather

That POS obama put off twice the kill order on Bin Laden. He froze again. What did America expect from a community organizer?

Will the rats learn their lesson? I doubt it!

Even they know that the president is notified IMMEDIATELY when a major crisis occurs anywhere in the world, the rats just don’t care.


7 posted on 10/27/2012 10:05:07 AM PDT by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: verga

I agree. I said from the minute this happened that it would be ignored by the media.
I hate being right.


8 posted on 10/27/2012 10:05:25 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Libloather

"Even with treason, our (bought) MSM will defend us."

9 posted on 10/27/2012 10:09:02 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: Libloather

10 posted on 10/27/2012 10:17:04 AM PDT by CodeToad (Padme: "So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.")
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To: Libloather

Oh; a Clinton ALWAYS can talk themselves out of ANYTHING. They’re charmed, don’t you know.


11 posted on 10/27/2012 10:18:24 AM PDT by Twinkie (PEOPLE ARE HURTING IN OBAMA'S ECONOMY . . .)
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To: Libloather

Obama has virtually run out of time and it’s too late to have someone fall on their sword for him. Hill and Bill are going to take him apart systematically right up to election day.
(And a big thanks to Fox for covering this)


12 posted on 10/27/2012 10:19:10 AM PDT by sanjuanbob
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To: Libloather

Hillary is toast.


13 posted on 10/27/2012 10:20:43 AM PDT by DefeatCorruption
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To: MulberryDraw

Actually, media is a huge component in this Benghazi coverup. I am hopeful that someday there will be an investigation into bribery, blackmail and collusion between media moguls and the Obama administration. They have and continue to turn their heads from corrupt behavior, thus giving Obama unchecked power.


14 posted on 10/27/2012 10:28:11 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: Libloather

Well...the WSJ ran a page 1 apologia for Hillary this week, saying her “reputation” might have be damaged by events in Benghazi.


15 posted on 10/27/2012 10:35:22 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
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To: pepsionice

The sad thing here is just the reaction of ten good Marines landing in the mess....would have likely made the administration look good....even if they were too late to save the Ambassador. Ten Marines would have left a hundred of the attackers dead on the ground.


Obama doesn’t understand “ no one left behind”.

It is a commitment to risk one’s own life to prevent such things from happening.


16 posted on 10/27/2012 10:39:57 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

LA Times today: crickets.

Sent a letter which will remain unpublished:

Editor LA Times:

On Friday, the CIA announced that they did not instruct the two Navy Seals to not respond to the attack on the Benghazi Consulate. Various military commentators indicated that the US had the capability to respond to the 8-hour attack including from Sicily. The father of one of the dead seals made public comments about being insulted and lied to when he went to meet the arriving body of his son.

The Times chose to ignore these developments giving us stories about Romney doing business with his aides firms and Obama shoring up his support amongst the black community. Where is the WH explanation of the failure to provide security in advance of the attack, failure to approve a response to the attack, and covering up the nature of the attack for 14 days? Where is the call for a full disclosure from the president? He doesn’t need time for an investigation. He knows what was done and not done. Several of the decisions had to be made at his level. Instead he went to bed and then to Vegas to raise money.

The more who know the truth about the death of the Americans and the gross negligence of the administration, the less likely the president will be re-elected. Thus the cover-up in which you are participating. The Times failure to provide proper coverage of this major failure in national defense and protection of US citizens working in Libya is a serious breech of your responsibility to keep us informed and provide a safeguard against governmental malfeasance. Look no further when considering why, more and more, we seek news from other sources.


17 posted on 10/27/2012 10:40:07 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Well...the WSJ ran a page 1 apologia for Hillary this week, saying her “reputation” might have be damaged by events in Benghazi.


What’s more important. Her reputation or the lives of 4 Americans.

The depths the media will go to defend the irrelevant is disgusting.


18 posted on 10/27/2012 10:41:53 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Hehehe...Maybe it won’t be much help. It’s already weakened a bit! However, it could be quite a storm, who knows?


19 posted on 10/27/2012 10:42:32 AM PDT by dsutah
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To: Libloather
Could someone clarify something for me.

I do not believe that this facility was an actual US "consulate". If it was, who was the consulate-general, the State Department officer in charge?

I think this was actually a CIA facility, not a real consulate. Comments?

20 posted on 10/27/2012 10:43:10 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, we'll just grow algae.)
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To: patriotspride

Barack “stand down” Obama, the hero of Benghazi


21 posted on 10/27/2012 10:43:18 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Hehehe...Maybe it won’t be much help. It’s already weakened a bit! However, it could be quite a storm, who knows?


22 posted on 10/27/2012 10:51:03 AM PDT by dsutah
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To: pepsionice

“would have likely made the administration look good”

Yeah, but I guess they just can’t wrap their heads around “boots on the ground” looking good. Too many shots over the past ten years of guys with big guns looming over crying Iraqi children, maybe.


23 posted on 10/27/2012 11:13:14 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Former Proud Canadian

The possibility that it was primarily a CIA operation has crossed my mind also although it must have been operating with a front (quasi-consulate).


24 posted on 10/27/2012 11:14:03 AM PDT by what's up
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To: Libloather

A truly extraordinary twofer!


25 posted on 10/27/2012 11:26:43 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE www.fee.org/library/books/economics-in-one-lesson)
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To: what's up
Hahaha. What is a "quasi-consulate". Is that like a state department front for a CIA operation? I'm sure that never happens.

I think this is a whole different animal if there really was no "consulate" in Benghazi. Just a "quasi-consulate".

26 posted on 10/27/2012 11:27:03 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, we'll just grow algae.)
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To: Libloather

The hag stood there and blamed the video while the remains of those heros were wheeled out at Andrews.

There’s a special corner in hell for trash like that.


27 posted on 10/27/2012 11:35:43 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: Libloather

If Congress won’t act on this Treason, then we need to nut up and march on Washington.

I’m not in any way kidding...


28 posted on 10/27/2012 11:39:32 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Libloather
Bttt.

5.56mm

29 posted on 10/27/2012 11:43:52 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Libloather

This might be the end if the press would actually do its job and report this story.

     


 

30 posted on 10/27/2012 11:49:58 AM PDT by Bon mots (Abu Ghraib: 47 Times on the front page of the NY Times | Benghazi: 2 Times)
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To: Libloather
Info on Benghazi keeps coming out.....

Check the keyword for Benghazi....absolute torrents of articles and statements.

Saw an abbreviated Brett Baer Special Report on the Benghazi coverup ,...attack this morning.

Expect more to be shown tonight and Sunday ...believe at 10 pm EST.

31 posted on 10/27/2012 11:59:19 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Former Proud Canadian

The CIA facility was near it, but this was a consular office that didn’t have a consul named to it (because of all the turmoil in Libya) and was visited by the Ambassador when it was necessary to transact business there, attend an event, etc. I’ve never been clear on whether he made it to the CIA facility and was killed there, or whether he died in some supposed safe room at the consulate.


32 posted on 10/27/2012 12:15:17 PM PDT by livius
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To: livius
He died in the "consulate". You haven't convinced me.

No consul named. What is the purpose of a consulate? As I understand it a consulate looks after US citizens in its area, issues visas and acts as the eyes and ears of the US government. There was no consul running things. There were not many US citizens in Benghazi to look after who were not CIA or CIA contract employees. Do you really want a consulate in Benghazi issuing visitors visas?

Was there a legitimate reason for a "consulate" in Benghazi?

33 posted on 10/27/2012 12:55:47 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, we'll just grow algae.)
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To: pepsionice
Ten Marines would have left a hundred of the attackers dead on the ground.

True. But it also would have left a TON of EVIDENCE, and Obama/Jarrett can't have that right now.

34 posted on 10/27/2012 1:53:38 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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To: patriotspride
Obama doesn’t understand “ no one left behind”.

But... he does understand "dead men tell no tales".

35 posted on 10/27/2012 1:55:27 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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To: Libloather

So other than that, Mr. Ceausescu, how did your career turn out?


36 posted on 10/27/2012 2:04:41 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Consulate or “mission,” there’s the rub. It appears the “consulate” might not have been an officially listed diplo facility.

So the “sovereign territory” rules (FWIW) might not have been applicable. Technically.


37 posted on 10/27/2012 2:54:35 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

did you see this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_Oqm6xCCyU

2012.10.22 - TheBlazeTV - The Glenn Beck Program - Libya—The Real Story


38 posted on 10/27/2012 3:09:47 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum...)
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To: Travis McGee
I'm convinced that both facilities, the "consulate" and the "cia annex" were CIA facilities.

How does this sound? AQ was looking for a quick, easy victory. Two CIA outposts in Indian territory were ripe for the picking because of poor security, isolation, and no heavy weapons. 9/11 was a perfect day to strike. The dead ambassador was collateral damage.

39 posted on 10/27/2012 3:17:14 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, we'll just grow algae.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Legitimate depends on your definition. We had a legitimate reason (protection) to have this consular office there. I’m sure you could have gotten a visa there had you turned up during office hours and applied, but that wasn’t its main purpose.

The consulate was clearly sort of a “back room” for the embassy. The papers were there and it seems that a lot of meetings took place there. Probably the diplomats assumed that the embassy was more likely to be under attack and had less protection, so they moved sensitive things to the consulate and made regular visits to it (Stevens was in Benghazi to dedicate a cultural center) to make sure it was perceived as part of the loop and thereby protected by the US.

Don’t forget that the jihadis were searching for papers after the attack, which is when they found Stevens’ body, because they knew that this was the purpose of the place.

However, does this mean it should have been allowed to be overrun by AQ? Does this mean the US has no obligation to support the people there, just because their main job is not issuing visas?

I don’t understand what you’re getting at. Do you think this made it OK for Obama to allow the Ambassador, the consulate building and its defenders to be taken out?


40 posted on 10/27/2012 4:46:07 PM PDT by livius
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To: CodeToad

Great image. Someone should make up an O bumper sticker:

“COward in Chief”


41 posted on 10/27/2012 5:11:23 PM PDT by AlanGreenSpam (Obama: The First 'American IDOL' President - sponsored by Chicago NeoCom Thugs)
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To: DefeatCorruption
Hillary is toast.

The Night of the Living Dead comes to mind.

Cordially,

42 posted on 10/27/2012 7:24:04 PM PDT by Diamond (He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people,)
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To: Diamond

Good one, Neil!


43 posted on 10/27/2012 7:36:12 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: livius
Legitimate depends on your definition. We had a legitimate reason (protection) to have this consular office there. I’m sure you could have gotten a visa there had you turned up during office hours and applied, but that wasn’t its main purpose.

"Legitimate" means a real consular office for real consular work. An example would be the US consulate in Toronto. I am not as sure as you are that you could get a visa from the Benghazi "consulate". Do you really think there was an urgent need to issue visas in Benghazi? Other wise known as "terror central".

The consulate was clearly sort of a “back room” for the embassy. The papers were there and it seems that a lot of meetings took place there. Probably the diplomats assumed that the embassy was more likely to be under attack and had less protection, so they moved sensitive things to the consulate and made regular visits to it (Stevens was in Benghazi to dedicate a cultural center) to make sure it was perceived as part of the loop and thereby protected by the US.

Sorry, you are making no sense at all. The "consulate" was poorly defended and in a very high risk location. Moving "sensitive things" to Benghazi makes absolutely no sense. There had been numerous terror attacks in Benghazi on western targets. Do you really think Stevens, who sent repeated reports of poor security and terror activity, was sanguine with the situation? Do you buy the cover story that he went there, on 9/11 of all days, to dedicate a "cultural center"?

Stevens was not stupid. There is no way he would go to Benghazi, without security, on 9/11 to dedicate a "cultural center". Give me a break. He was there for a far more important reason.

Don’t forget that the jihadis were searching for papers after the attack, which is when they found Stevens’ body, because they knew that this was the purpose of the place.

They knew the purpose of the place was as a CIA listening post. That means there would be interesting documents there. The ambassador's death was either collateral damage or a bonus to AQ.

However, does this mean it should have been allowed to be overrun by AQ? Does this mean the US has no obligation to support the people there, just because their main job is not issuing visas?

On the contrary. I believe both installations were CIA intelligence gathering posts. It's a good thing that the CIA is in the field, gathering intelligence against the enemies of western civilization. They should have been better protected. Obama should have sent in the cavalry to save them. He didn't help precisely because it was a CIA operation and he didn't want to get his hands dirty.

I don’t understand what you’re getting at. Do you think this made it OK for Obama to allow the Ambassador, the consulate building and its defenders to be taken out?

Umm, no, see above. What I am getting at is that this was CIA from start to finish and Obama hung them out to dry, wrongly.

44 posted on 10/28/2012 6:10:50 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, we'll just grow algae.)
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