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Portman: 'If We Don't Win Ohio, It's Tough To See Us Winning The Election Nationally'
NBCNews ^ | October 27, 2012 | Andrew Rafferty

Posted on 10/27/2012 11:05:03 AM PDT by Steelfish

Portman: 'If We Don't Win Ohio, It's Tough To See Us Winning The Election Nationally' By NBC's Andrew Rafferty

FAIRVIEW PARK, OH -- Ohio Sen. Rob Portman, the chairman of Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney's campaign in the Buckeye State, said Friday that it would be tough for Romney to win the election without carrying Ohio.

"I'm feeling the pressure not just because I'm chairing the effort here in Ohio, but mostly because I feel the pressure for our country and what's going to happen over the next four years," Portman told NBC News on Friday while traveling between campaign stops for Romney. "If we don't win Ohio, it's tough to see us winning the election nationally. It's possible, but it's very difficult."

Paul Beck, Ohio State University professor, describes the importance of winning Ohio, a battleground with a large number of electoral votes. It's a diverse state with liberals and conservatives matching a cross section of the nation.

Most of the recent attention the Ohio senator has received has centered on the key role he played in Romney's debate preparation and how close he came to being chosen as the GOP vice presidential nominee. But before he took on any of those roles, he was tapped by Romney to lead the former Massachusetts governor's effort in the key battleground state.

"We're doing better in Cleveland, and Cincinnati and Columbus and Toledo where we have some of the numbers of the absentee and early voting, we're doing better than we expected we would," he told volunteers gathered at the Avon Lake Victory Center. "We're exceeding our targets."

(Excerpt) Read more at firstread.nbcnews.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: 2012swingstates; oh2012; portman
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Actually, unless Romney increases his lead among "men" in OH, this is going to be near-impossible to win. Nationally, Romney has a lead of nearly 19 point among men but only 7-9 points among men in OH.

So Romney's win or lose will all come down to men and in particular men in OH.

I can think of a movie title "Men In Ohio" dressed in rabbit costumes if Romney loses OH.

1 posted on 10/27/2012 11:05:05 AM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

“”I’m feeling the pressure not just because I’m chairing the effort here in Ohio, but mostly because I feel the pressure for our country and what’s going to happen over the next four years,” Portman told NBC News on Friday while traveling between campaign stops for Romney.”


glad he feels this way...this is the difference between the GOP and the rats; the GOP takes personal responsibility...the rats??? its never their fault....


2 posted on 10/27/2012 11:08:51 AM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: Steelfish

Romney will win OH.

https://tcjresearch.wordpress.com/2012/10/23/tcj-research-ohio-mitt-romney-50-barack-obama-47-1019-1021/

“TCJ Research is a Republican-backed, privately owned polling group that launched in 2010. We gained notoriety (unoffiicially) as the most accurate House pollster of the midterm, with our 7 House polls trending to the Republicans by a slim margin of 1.2 points, on average.”


3 posted on 10/27/2012 11:08:51 AM PDT by tatown (Obama was right, it was a 'one term proposition')
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To: Steelfish; LS

You might want to talk with FReeper LS who is a campaign volunteer in Ohio before you throw in the towel.


4 posted on 10/27/2012 11:09:39 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Steelfish

I am sick and tired of OHIO’s ‘self-importance’ in this election, esp one being voiced by this Portman guy. He not only upped the ante of this self-importance, but he gave much added ammunition to the opposition by highlighting what the MSM has been propagandizing all along - Romney can’t win without Ohio. This guy should be fired. Maybe that’s why it’s as close as it is.


5 posted on 10/27/2012 11:11:01 AM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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To: Steelfish

Why do we have any Republican saying anything pessimistic about this election?


6 posted on 10/27/2012 11:12:20 AM PDT by Never on my watch (I can see November from the Chick-Fil-A drive through lane.)
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To: Steelfish

So this will be the new media meme for the last week of the campaign.........”Forget the national polls, forget laughable claims that Romney can take states like Wisconsin, Michigan or Pennsylvania. Forget EVERYTHING except the Ohio polls”.

That’s fine. The people of Ohio will respond to this by going out in droves and voting for Romney. No way do they want to be blamed for the destruction of America.


8 posted on 10/27/2012 11:13:21 AM PDT by The Fop (Excuse me while I clean the saliva out of my racist dog whistle)
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To: LibFreeUSA

I have nothing against Portman, but I totally agree with you that he shouldn’t be giving soundbites to the evil MSM to run with for the next week.


9 posted on 10/27/2012 11:13:42 AM PDT by radpolis (Liberals: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy)
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To: Steelfish

Still rooting for Obama, are we?


10 posted on 10/27/2012 11:14:17 AM PDT by map
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To: Common Sense 101

He did way “We’re exceeding out targets.”


11 posted on 10/27/2012 11:14:48 AM PDT by MrChips (MrChips)
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To: Common Sense 101

He did say “We’re exceeding out targets.”


12 posted on 10/27/2012 11:14:58 AM PDT by MrChips (MrChips)
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To: Steelfish

I don’t care if you’re twenty points behind, you don’t make statements that breed negativity.

Portman should shut his pie-hole.

NOTHING but positivity Romney team.


13 posted on 10/27/2012 11:16:15 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Poor Obama. If he wins he'll inherit a terrible situation. /s ;^))
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To: Common Sense 101

Well he does have a point, but it’s stupid for him to say it. If Romney doesn’t win Ohio, I don’t see him winning the other states that Obama won that are now too close to call. But I’m confident that he WILL win Ohio and plenty of those other states.


14 posted on 10/27/2012 11:16:41 AM PDT by The Fop (Excuse me while I clean the saliva out of my racist dog whistle)
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To: Steelfish
Nationally, Romney has a lead of nearly 19 point among men but only 7-9 points among men in OH.

Based on what?

Notice the part where they said they are overperforming in the absentee vote? How would that be possible if they are underperforming among white men?

If Romney continues to negate Obama's 2008 advantage in absentee voting (and as of last night, he has gained about 250,000 votes over the 2008 margin), then he will carry the state with ease.

One other point which is consistently missed in the MSM and in polling - GOP candidates have always matched or exceeded their share of the national popular vote in Ohio, win or lose. If he is above 50% nationally, he will be win 50% or better here. Ohio naturally votes a point or two to the right of the rest of the country, and the drain in Democrat registrations (down over 400,000 since 2008) and population (Cuyahoga County is down over 5% since 2008) will only enhance that advantage.

Will it be close? Yes, but I still think Romney wins 51-49, and thus the election.

15 posted on 10/27/2012 11:17:36 AM PDT by TonyInOhio (Defend Freedom / Defeat Obama)
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To: Never on my watch
Why do we have any Republican saying anything pessimistic about this election?

Only to get Ohio Romney leaners voters to make sure they vote.

Strategy.

17 posted on 10/27/2012 11:18:16 AM PDT by what's up
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To: Steelfish
Actually, unless Romney increases his lead among "men" in OH, this is going to be near-impossible to win. Nationally, Romney has a lead of nearly 19 point among men but only 7-9 points among men in OH.

or in other words, public opinion polls by the state-run liberal media are dramatically over-sampling black males in Ohio.

18 posted on 10/27/2012 11:21:05 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo (Support hate crime laws: Because some victims are more equal than others.)
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To: Steelfish
Actually, unless Romney increases his lead among "men" in OH, this is going to be near-impossible to win. Nationally, Romney has a lead of nearly 19 point among men but only 7-9 points among men in OH.

or in other words, public opinion polls by the state-run liberal media are dramatically over-sampling black males in Ohio.

19 posted on 10/27/2012 11:21:05 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo (Support hate crime laws: Because some victims are more equal than others.)
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To: LibFreeUSA

Wouldn’t a win in Pennsylvania be just as good as one in Ohio?


20 posted on 10/27/2012 11:22:13 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Superciliousness is the essence of Obama)
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To: TonyInOhio
I would add - anyone complaining about Rob Portman or obsessing over Ohio polls is more than welcome to join me in calling fellow Ohio voters and encouraging them to vote for Romney. If you're worried, turn it into action.
21 posted on 10/27/2012 11:22:18 AM PDT by TonyInOhio (Defend Freedom / Defeat Obama)
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To: Steelfish

Are you on our side? Because you seem to cling to every story re: Ohio, while ignoring the national trend.

Let me say it again, there is NO WAY, NO HOW that Romney wins the national vote by 4-5 points and loses the election. Itis statistically impossible.

Furthermore, Ohio always keeps pace with the national vote, and leans R - even in 2008.

So you keep on hanging on to Ohio. Just like the media. (It’s their new little squirrel.)

We will win Ohio, and we will win Wisconsin, and New Hampshire, and Colorado.

Romney will win 52-47 with 300+ EVs.


22 posted on 10/27/2012 11:23:09 AM PDT by nhwingut (Single Issue Voter: Obama Must Go!)
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To: Steelfish

Maybe I over-reacted with Portman, but he shouldn’t be whining with “I’m feeling the pressure” if he’s in the position that he’s in. I mean, can you imagine Patton saying that to the press on his drive to Bastogne???


23 posted on 10/27/2012 11:23:35 AM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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To: tatown
Praying continuously.


25 posted on 10/27/2012 11:25:17 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty ( For AMERICA's sake: Vote for the Mormon, NOT the muslim; The Capitalist, NOT the Communist! FUBO!)
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To: Thane_Banquo
GOOD!! I’m glad he is talking this way...SHOULD scare the CRAP OUT OF US so that we don’t get complacent!! TURNOUT, TURNOUT and more TURNOUT!!!!!!
26 posted on 10/27/2012 11:27:08 AM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

Actually better. PA has 2 more electoral votes than Ohio. Also, if PA goes for Romney, the election’s over.


27 posted on 10/27/2012 11:27:40 AM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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To: nhwingut

If I may....I remember steelfish....as suspect.

Good call. I see it the same way. Ironic Obama 47%, but this looks like where he is regardless of where Romney settles.


28 posted on 10/27/2012 11:28:37 AM PDT by Texas4ever
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To: nhwingut

If I may....I remember steelfish....as suspect.

Good call. I see it the same way. Ironic Obama 47%, but this looks like where he is regardless of where Romney settles.


29 posted on 10/27/2012 11:28:44 AM PDT by Texas4ever
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To: Steelfish

Ohio men, Woody demands that you vote for Romney. Woody doesn’t like Obama.


30 posted on 10/27/2012 11:31:51 AM PDT by cdga5for4
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To: LibFreeUSA

“I am sick and tired of OHIO’s ‘self-importance’ in this election, “

I’m sick and tired of steelfish. He isn’t on our side. Furthermore, portman may be saying that to get zeros campaign to waste time and money in ohio


31 posted on 10/27/2012 11:32:05 AM PDT by AdamBomb
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To: LibFreeUSA
Actually better. PA has 2 more electoral votes than Ohio. Also, if PA goes for Romney, the election’s over.

Ohio's demographics are much more favorable for Romney than Pennsylvania's; if he is strong enough in Pennsylvania to win, he will have already won Ohio.

I am confident he will win Ohio, and I believe he will come close but lose Pennsylvania. I do think the GOP Senate canidate in PA, Smith, will beat that idiot Casey, though.

32 posted on 10/27/2012 11:32:14 AM PDT by TonyInOhio (Defend Freedom / Defeat Obama)
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To: Steelfish

Romney will win Ohio comfortably. But it doesn’t matter. Anyone with a pulse can see that the Obama team is in a state of panic, as they watch the fire burn on both sides of their firewall. Things can change, of course, but at this point, Romney is looking at a 4-6 point win nationally, with the potential for a landslide.

Independents are breaking hard for Romney, Republican turnout will hit records, and Democrats aren’t even bothering to put signs on their lawn.

Ohio is irrelevant at this point.


33 posted on 10/27/2012 11:41:19 AM PDT by jjsheridan5 (concern trolls are gonna be concerned)
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To: Steelfish

This was on NBC. Did they run a video of Portman saying this or was it just “reported?”

I trust nothing from the networks.


34 posted on 10/27/2012 11:43:04 AM PDT by Wordkraft (Remember who the Collaborators are.)
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To: Never on my watch; DoughtyOne; Common Sense 101
You've got that right.

Death and life are in the power of the tongue,
And those who love it will eat its fruit.

-Proverbs 18:21-

We can either get in agreement with God, or we can get in agreement with the enemy. If Portman can't get in agreement with God, then he needs to keep his mouth shut and stop charging the air with negativity.

35 posted on 10/27/2012 11:43:23 AM PDT by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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To: Steelfish

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2951092/posts

“Momentum: Pics Show Huge Crowd Braving Frigid Temps to Support Romney/Ryan in Ohio.”


36 posted on 10/27/2012 11:44:29 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Don't be afraid to see what you see. (Ronald Reagan))
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To: Steelfish

I’ll say it again...

Ohio is NOT a must-win state!

Colorado, Wisconsin, and either Iowa, Nevada, or New Hampshire will win it. It is very conceivable that Romney can win these states while losing Ohio.

I want Ohio, but it is not the firewall everyone thinks it is. There are several plausible scenarios to victory:

NV, CO, IA, ME-2
WI, CO, NV
WI, CO, NH
WI, CO, IA
NV, CO, IA = 269 and House selection


37 posted on 10/27/2012 11:46:13 AM PDT by MeanGreen2008
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To: Steelfish

I think Romney has a comfortable lead right now in Ohio, and this is an attempt to bluff Obama into putting EVERYTHING Obama has, into Ohio.

This is why Obama calls Mitt a “bull$hitter”....

Clever batsard, lol....


38 posted on 10/27/2012 11:51:47 AM PDT by Professional
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin
Wouldn’t a win in Pennsylvania be just as good as one in Ohio?

To me, it would be even better.

39 posted on 10/27/2012 12:02:35 PM PDT by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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To: CatherineofAragon

I can see a scenario where Romney wins without Ohio - by winning Wisconsin, NH, CO, FL, NC, VA, but losing OH, NV, and Iowa.

This gets him to 271.


40 posted on 10/27/2012 12:05:30 PM PDT by Rumierules
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To: Steelfish

Rob needs to spend more time on FR


41 posted on 10/27/2012 12:05:40 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: Steelfish
Portman: 'If We Don't Win Ohio, It's Tough To See Us Winning The Election Nationally'

Thank you very much, Captain Obvious.

42 posted on 10/27/2012 12:12:29 PM PDT by Delhi Rebels (There was a row in Silver Street - the regiments was out.)
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To: God luvs America

Even if R loses Ohio, [won’t happen] the Obama hemorrhaging is widespread and R will take this election. And yes, it’s good that Portman feels a sense of urgency to win his state.


43 posted on 10/27/2012 12:15:53 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Steelfish
...he told volunteers gathered at the Avon Lake Victory Center. ... said the grassroots effort will make the difference in this state.

Just trying to get out the vote. Relax

44 posted on 10/27/2012 12:20:33 PM PDT by expat1000
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To: Steelfish

Wonder if he’s being honest or its a head fake. IA and WI are close and alternative paths to victory.


45 posted on 10/27/2012 12:38:47 PM PDT by The Hound Passer
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To: expat1000
Just trying to get out the vote. Relax

Exactly. What's he supposed to say (as the Senator from the state and the state's chair): "Oh, sure we don't need Ohio."

Please. The left and the media are the real bitter clingers. They refuse to see the writing on the wall. An incumbent president down, with 9 days to go, 51-46 and 50-46 in the two national polls is a loser.
46 posted on 10/27/2012 12:39:54 PM PDT by nhwingut (Single Issue Voter: Obama Must Go!)
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To: All

Someone said on another thread that Obama has a 13 point lead on early voting in Ohio and that 20% over the vote is already in. McCain won the vote on election day in Ohio but lost Ohio due to the early voting. This has me concerned if it is true.


47 posted on 10/27/2012 12:41:00 PM PDT by PAR
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To: Rumierules

I heard someone on Fox say pretty much the same thing; can’t recall now who it was. But I do think Romney will win Ohio.


48 posted on 10/27/2012 12:41:36 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Don't be afraid to see what you see. (Ronald Reagan))
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To: PAR

“This has me concerned if it is true.”

No need to be “concerned”.


49 posted on 10/27/2012 12:53:07 PM PDT by map
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To: map

I hope you’re right. From what I have read it is almost axiomatic that if the incumbent doesn’t have 50% going into election day they will lose because undecideds break for the challenger. If that holds, then Romney is golden. But I’ve also read that Obama is trying to overcome this with the ground game in Ohio that he has been building since he was elected. But early indications are that the Republicans have significantly cut the early voting edge the democrats had in 2008 and that the early voting Republicans are more likely to be “unlikely voters” compare to the early voting democrats.

Need more data to feel better.


50 posted on 10/27/2012 1:00:12 PM PDT by PAR
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