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Obama Administration Replaces Top Generals Following Benghazi Disaster
Gateway Pundit ^ | October 27, 2012 | Jim Holt

Posted on 10/27/2012 4:39:50 PM PDT by bobsunshine

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1 posted on 10/27/2012 4:39:59 PM PDT by bobsunshine
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To: bobsunshine

Diversionary tactics?


2 posted on 10/27/2012 4:41:25 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: bobsunshine

We have a coup brewing?


3 posted on 10/27/2012 4:42:27 PM PDT by ImaGraftedBranch (...By reading this, you've collapsed my wave function. Thanks.)
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To: bobsunshine
He isn't blaming generals, he is trying to keep others quiet about his cowardice.>
4 posted on 10/27/2012 4:44:20 PM PDT by CodeToad (Padme: "So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.")
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5 posted on 10/27/2012 4:44:48 PM PDT by CodeToad (Padme: "So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.")
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To: bobsunshine

Court marshall him. On TV.


6 posted on 10/27/2012 4:46:22 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: bobsunshine; TigerClaws

This has been reported on FR, but we need confirmation of this intel from a separate substantial source...because it cannot or has not been confirmed independently online or elsewhere.


7 posted on 10/27/2012 4:47:41 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (Obama: "If you've got a business -- you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen.")
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To: GeronL; TigersEye; Marine_Uncle; onyx
Must see thread....trying to get it into breaking news,,,,,

MAJOR

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Fiasco

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Info on Benghazi keeps coming out.....

Check the keyword for Benghazi....absolute torrents of articles and statements.

Saw an abbreviated Brett Baer Special Report on the Benghazi coverup ,...attack this morning.

Expect more to be shown tonight and Sunday ...believe at 10 pm EST.

Graphic by LadyJag!


8 posted on 10/27/2012 4:49:13 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: ImaGraftedBranch

Usafricom website still has Ham as the CO.


9 posted on 10/27/2012 4:49:49 PM PDT by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: bobsunshine

bookmark


10 posted on 10/27/2012 4:50:01 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: bobsunshine

Surprising he didn’t try to blame GW Bush...that would be par for the course for the golfer in chief. It’s always somebody else’s fault, y’know. Meanwhile, this is beginning to take on aspects of it being his fault, his own fault, his VERY own fault, and NOBODY ELSE’S fault but 0bama, directly.


11 posted on 10/27/2012 4:50:08 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (This stuff we're going through now, this is nothing compared to the middle ages.)
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To: Vince Ferrer
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12 posted on 10/27/2012 4:50:28 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church shows up at your funeral)
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To: bobsunshine

             

13 posted on 10/27/2012 4:51:52 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: CodeToad
Wrong....

TRAITOR

He should be dancing from that rope.

14 posted on 10/27/2012 4:52:31 PM PDT by lightman (If the Patriarchate of the East held a state like the Vatican I would apply for political asylum.)
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To: bobsunshine; All
Here is link to Africa Command web site: Obama Nominates Rodriguez as Next Africa Command Chief

Link to Africa Command
15 posted on 10/27/2012 4:54:11 PM PDT by bobsunshine
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16 posted on 10/27/2012 4:55:12 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: SkyDancer
I really meant the general. I'd really like to see Obama court marshall a general for trying to save American lives, after being told not to by the President. I'd like to see that evidence.

Then we can get to your picture.

17 posted on 10/27/2012 4:58:29 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: bobsunshine

From the Africa Command web Site:

WASHINGTON, D.C., Oct 19, 2012 — President Obama has nominated Army General David M. Rodriguez to succeed Army General Carter F. Ham as the commander of U.S. Africa Command, Defense Secretary Leon E. Panetta said, October 18, 2012.

U.S. Africa Command is the newest combatant command, and its headquarters is in Stuttgart, Germany. The command encompasses all of Africa and its adjacent waters except for Egypt.


18 posted on 10/27/2012 4:59:14 PM PDT by bobsunshine
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To: bobsunshine

GEN Ham is still Cdr AFRICOM, and presumably will remain so until the Senate has confirmed GEN Rodriquez, which will not happen until after the election. He hasn’t been relieved. GEN Ham has been at AFRICOM for less than two years, so this move is a little bit unusual. Ham may be leaving for completely unrelated reasons, or he could be getting sacked for reasons related to Benghazi. Valarie Jarret probably knows, but none of us do, and probably won’t for some time. Eventually the real reason will leak out - post election most likely


19 posted on 10/27/2012 4:59:47 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: SkyDancer

Please tell me this is real.


20 posted on 10/27/2012 5:00:39 PM PDT by papageo
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To: 7thson
Usafricom website still has Ham as the CO.

Rodriguez requires Senate confirmation before he can assume his post.

21 posted on 10/27/2012 5:00:58 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA; Ignorance on parade.)
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To: bobsunshine

Apprehended???

As in placing under arrest??


22 posted on 10/27/2012 5:01:19 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
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To: bobsunshine

FUBAR!!!


23 posted on 10/27/2012 5:05:48 PM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: bobsunshine

FUBAR!!!


24 posted on 10/27/2012 5:06:07 PM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: ImaGraftedBranch
General Ham then received the order to stand down. His response was to screw it, he was going to help anyhow. Within 30 seconds to a minute after making the move to respond, his second in command apprehended General Ham and told him that he was now relieved of his command.

We have a coup brewing?

No, what we have is a writer with an overactive imagination who has obviously been watching the series "Last Resort".....

Excellent drama series and I highly recommend it.........

25 posted on 10/27/2012 5:07:29 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: bobsunshine

General Ham then received the order to stand down. His response was to screw it, he was going to help anyhow. Within 30 seconds to a minute after making the move to respond, his second in command apprehended General Ham and told him that he was now relieved of his command.

Who did relieved him of command? Who ordered him to stand down?
Sounds like General Ham was the only one who did his freakin job!~


26 posted on 10/27/2012 5:08:28 PM PDT by Adder (No Mo BO)
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To: bobsunshine
Within 30 seconds to a minute after making the move to respond, his second in command apprehended General Ham and told him that he was now relieved of his command.

Knowing how the Army works, I have a lot of trouble believing this.

27 posted on 10/27/2012 5:12:08 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: bobsunshine

The House needs to talk to these officers.


28 posted on 10/27/2012 5:13:05 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Obama didn't fix it.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Okay, you want confirmation. Confirmation you’ll get.

1) http://www.voanews.com/content/obama-nominaes-new-chief-for-us-africa-command/1529738.html

Obama Nominates New Chief for US Africa Command
VOA News
October 19, 2012

2) http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2951017/posts

Obama Nominates Rodriguez as Next Africa Command Chief (4-Star Carter Ham relieved of command_
American Forces Press Service AFRICOM.mil ^ | Oct 19, 2012 | By Jim Garamone

Sounds to me like the Stuff just hit the fan.

Anybody starts sh**canning folks at this level, and VERY bad things are going to happen.

Monday morning (between this crap and Petraeus/CIA going at least partially public on Friday) could be VERY interesting.


29 posted on 10/27/2012 5:13:22 PM PDT by Unrepentant VN Vet
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To: Adder
Sounds like General Ham was the only one who did his freakin job!~

It does, doesn't it? Along with the Admiral who was very abruptly relieved.

30 posted on 10/27/2012 5:14:48 PM PDT by SCalGal (Friends don't let friends donate to H$U$, A$PCA, or PETA.)
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To: RoosterRedux; Travis McGee; Jeff Head
Well,...Beck said as much on one of his shows apparently.

Of course he has been officially labeled as unreliable.

31 posted on 10/27/2012 5:16:01 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: All

Out of here for a few hours.


32 posted on 10/27/2012 5:16:59 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: bobsunshine

If turns out to be true, this general must be put under oath
to tell what he knows.


33 posted on 10/27/2012 5:19:43 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: Unrepentant VN Vet

You’re aware of normal command rotations, right? They usually run anywhere from 18 months to two years. Somebody has an over active imagination here.


34 posted on 10/27/2012 5:20:03 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Timber Rattler

“Knowing how the Army works, I have a lot of trouble believing this.”

Color me confused, Timber Rattler. If you have some insight into this story, please provide the details.

Thanks, buddy.


35 posted on 10/27/2012 5:21:14 PM PDT by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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To: Timber Rattler

I think it went - he receives orders to stand down ; his reply is, no it is my duty as commander to respond and save these people; then they (WH/Obama) say - you are relieved of command.

More likely?


36 posted on 10/27/2012 5:21:16 PM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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Knowing how the Army works, I have a lot of trouble believing this.

This doesn't have as much to do with how the Army works as how Chicago does....

I grew up 90 miles from the joint, and I don't have any trouble believing this (or worse) at all.

37 posted on 10/27/2012 5:22:01 PM PDT by Unrepentant VN Vet
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To: centurion316

General Ham should resign NOW, before the elections and walk right into the House Committe and tells what he knows under oath.


38 posted on 10/27/2012 5:22:21 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: Unrepentant VN Vet
Ok...God bless you and profound thanks for your service to our Country and the cause of Freedom ...but your comment and links do not address the relief of service of Rear Adm. Charles M. Gaouette.

No one to my knowledge has said the he was relieved from office because of his involvement in the Benghazi issue.

If I am wrong...I stand corrected.

39 posted on 10/27/2012 5:24:56 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (Obama: "If you've got a business -- you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen.")
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To: bobsunshine
I'll bet Preezy Barry's a-hole is puckered so tight that he can't even shite his pants now that his fantastical Benghazi fairytale has collided with reality.

The slow drip, drip, drip of info coming out over this, all done deliberately by patriotic Americans I suspect, is going to have him curled up in the fetal position, crying for his Marxist mommy, before election day.

In my worst dreams I can't imagine a more inept and devious person assuming the role of President.

40 posted on 10/27/2012 5:25:18 PM PDT by Lovely-Day-For-A-Guinness (Eenie meanie, chili beanie, the spirits are about to speak....)
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Ace of Spades says the move to replace Rear Adm. Charles Baouette is likely not related to Benghazi.

Is that what Queen of Spades has to say, too?

41 posted on 10/27/2012 5:25:45 PM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great; until it happens to YOU.)
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To: Unrepentant VN Vet

Sunday morning talk show spin doctors are receiving their Forward! progressive orders from the Marxist in chief now.

They will say the Kenyan did not order the Navy Seal heroes to be abandoned and die, they were not supposed to be there. What the Resident did was order the Al Qeda Folks who were channeling the weapons from the Libya US Embassy, to insurgents in Syria, those Folks were supposed to take Amb Stevens hostage, so he could be rescued by the Administration, when the folks that made the Mohammed video got arrested he could be swapped maybe.

Only problem is, patriotism got in the way of the Libya Fast and Furious plan.

The Navy Seals asked 3 times for cover and aid, targets painted with lasers for Spooky to take out from the sky, and three times Obama said stand down. Gen Ham refused so he got immediately sacked.

A few days later the Al Qeda Taliban in US military uniform entered Ft Bastion and killed two Marines incuding a wing commander at Ft Bastion, and destroyed 7 jump jet Harriers on the ground inside the airbase. How could the Taliban do this without treasonous support from inside the White House or inside traitors and treachery from the Pentagon?

Treason, traitors and treachery in the White House, Benghazi, and Fort Bastion. Those will be the questions tomorrow.

And, why is Obama gutting the fighting forces of battle commanders during an election season? That is a good question.


42 posted on 10/27/2012 5:37:39 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: RoosterRedux

Thread on this:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2950882/posts

There’s a story Gen Ham is out about a week after the 9/11/12 attack.

Ham was the don’t ask don’t tell / gays won’t have negative effect on military guy. Was on his way up the ladder until this.

Read his post was to continue until May 2013. Well, what happened? Why is he out?

There’s daylight between Ham’s story and Penetta. Penetta said Ham was consulted and part of the decision not to go because they weren’t ready. Bolton on Greta last night quoted Ham as telling Congressional investigators that nobody asked him to go.


43 posted on 10/27/2012 5:40:11 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: bobsunshine

Somehow I don’t think the cowardly treason of Benghazi will be portrayed by Harvey Weinstein or Kathryn Bigelow any day soon.


44 posted on 10/27/2012 5:40:21 PM PDT by montag813
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To: TigerClaws

Ham said “nobody asked him to go”. If this statement is true,
Ham should be relieved of his command. It is Ham, that should
have been pleading to save our fellow Americans.


45 posted on 10/27/2012 5:43:21 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: FlyingEagle

The former SEALs on the ground would give a situation assessment as part of their direct communication. CIA was in the loop. Situation Room at White House.

POTUS must give the okay to violate Libyan air space. He did not do so.

So there are three lies:

1. POTUS claiming to be out of the loop.

2. The situation on the ground unclear.

3. Troops not ready to go.

3.


46 posted on 10/27/2012 5:44:58 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I'm hoping to be able to watch the Fox 10PM rebroadcast special. It seems there are times when some on the West coast say they are watching something at Fox, that I cannot find the broadcast anywhere on their web site.

47 posted on 10/27/2012 5:47:01 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned.)
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Look, these guys have careers and pensions.

What did they tell us?

CIA said basically WhIte House had the call, not us. We weren’t asked to go.

Ham said he wasn’t asked to go.

Who does the asking??

POTUS.

They’ve told us all how it went down without directly burning their own careers.

Ham will likely be subpoenaed at some point and tell his version of events to Congress. There’s a closed to the public hearing coming up. ... Post election.


48 posted on 10/27/2012 5:48:42 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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I appreciate your hard work on this issue...but where is the evidence that Ham is out.

Yes, he has been replaced by Rodriguez...but where is the evidence of the 30 second relief of duty...and his refusal to "stand down."

We need hard evidence...or at least a source to hang our hats on.

49 posted on 10/27/2012 5:50:59 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (Obama: "If you've got a business -- you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen.")
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To: Marine_Uncle; All

The Fox show is very good.

Apparently the two former SEALs were CIA. They were there pursuing 20,000 manpads - shoulder operated missiles. Those I’m the hands of terrorists could should down all air travel.

It was yet another Fast & Furious “get the weapons to the bad guys on our side” (in Mexico it was a ‘friendly cartel’; here ‘friendly Muslim extremists’).

Obama took credit in the foreign policy debate for Libya. Regime change without US sending in tons of troops. Obama was trying to do the same thing in Syria.


50 posted on 10/27/2012 5:53:22 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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