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Obama Administration Replaces Top Generals Following Benghazi Disaster
Gateway Pundit ^ | October 27, 2012 | Jim Holt

Posted on 10/27/2012 4:39:50 PM PDT by bobsunshine

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To: bobsunshine
Abe is correct. Abe will explain from "the other side."

You initiated a policy to tolerate the Marxist-Alinsky radicals and let them rant; not only has it not ceased but was constantly augmented by decades of infiltration and indoctrination. You now have two Americas. In my opinion, it will not cease until a crisis shall have been reached and passed. "A house divided against itself cannot stand." I believe this government cannot endure, permanently, half statist and half free; I do not expect the house to fall; but I do expect it will cease to be divided. It will become all one thing, or all the other.

Obama is a biological-ideological issue of the 1960s Marxist-Alinsky campus radical, psycho spoiled brats.

As that crisis gets closer and closer our military members are going to have to choose sides.

51 posted on 10/27/2012 5:54:44 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: FlyingEagle

The Hood and Thugs are running the show at the white house. Fire them all!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How much longer are we expected to put up with this b*llsh*t??


52 posted on 10/27/2012 5:55:24 PM PDT by dubyajam ("Life is Hard ... It's Even Harder When you're Stupid" --- John Wayne)
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To: ImaGraftedBranch

We have a coup brewing?

My thought exactly. What soldier would go into battle now knowing that he might not have his six covered ?


53 posted on 10/27/2012 5:55:50 PM PDT by lucky american (The Democrats will follow the big "D"even if it means going over a cliff.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Well, I didn’t look for anything about the Admiral.

When I did, all the reports said was “relieved for inappropriate behavior”.

Two (and maybe more) front line staff officers get relieved in the same week, right after the Bengazi attack.

Hate to use old lines on you, but all I can say is

RIIIIIIIIIGHT.

This doesn’t just look a little shady, this damn flat reeks.


54 posted on 10/27/2012 5:58:56 PM PDT by Unrepentant VN Vet
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thanks for the ping.


55 posted on 10/27/2012 6:01:08 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned.)
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To: Unrepentant VN Vet

God bless...and hang tough! (I know you will);-)


56 posted on 10/27/2012 6:01:35 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (Obama: "If you've got a business -- you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen.")
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To: bobsunshine

What’s the history on these two replacements? Are they gay, muslim, and/or usurper supporters?


57 posted on 10/27/2012 6:01:50 PM PDT by bgill (Evil doers are in every corner of our government. Have we passed the time of no return?)
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To: TigerClaws

A) Panetta said their was a lack of intelligence on the situation on the ground preventing forces from “rushing in”

B) Obama said his first act was to direct that we do everything possible to secure ALL our personnel and embassies.

C) If the POTUS had given such a command, Panetta’s statement would be moot.

D) So “everything” wasn’t done or Obama never made such an order.

E) Either way, Obama as POTUS is a POS as a CIC


58 posted on 10/27/2012 6:04:17 PM PDT by Optimist
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To: TigerClaws
"...It was yet another Fast & Furious “get the weapons to the bad guys on our side”
Same conclusion I had weeks ago. I wrote similar explanation on some of the early posts on this issue. As did others.
59 posted on 10/27/2012 6:05:25 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned.)
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To: tennmountainman; Triple
Officially it is disobeying a legitimate (?) order.
And, Generals don't get to resign and tell all;
they are still flag rank and still obligated to go along.

Aside from that, this stinks.

60 posted on 10/27/2012 6:12:00 PM PDT by norton
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To: bobsunshine

Impeach the bastard! The Clear and Pres__ent Danger in the Oval Office!


61 posted on 10/27/2012 6:21:28 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: norton

The CIA guys that were killed were told to stand down. They didn’t. Disregarding orders? Sounds like they did.

No man left behind. First instinct is to save Americans in harm’s way. As well it should be.

Obama made the political decision not to go in. It was a 50/50 chance of success and he didn’t want a Carter failed Iran rescue. So he left Stevens hanging. Then he left the entire situation hanging.

Harms way? That’s what soldiers do. The ex SEALs would have elevated and given a threat assessment. 50 unfriendlies with AKs and mortars. That was relayed up the chain of command.

Several have said 5 pm was when Obama decided not to go and them he retired for the night.

Ham would know that. Panetta would know that. There will be a paper trail as well.


62 posted on 10/27/2012 6:24:06 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: bobsunshine

WOW! This is very informative! Obama is taking tactics that Erdogan (Turkey’s PM) did to remove tops generals. This sent a message to the Army to not even think of a coup. We might have more going on here thn meets the eye.


63 posted on 10/27/2012 6:35:55 PM PDT by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: bobsunshine

Damn, there is so much we’ve yet to learn. Obama’s “stonewall” is crumbling brick by brick and at this rate it will take months to break through to find the truth.


64 posted on 10/27/2012 6:43:25 PM PDT by JerseyDvl (Cogito Ergo Doleo Soetoro, ABO and of course FUBO!)
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To: TigerClaws

So it was the ex-SEALs who they wanted dead. They definitely wanted someone in that fight dead.


65 posted on 10/27/2012 7:01:54 PM PDT by arrogantsob (The Disaster MUST Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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To: TigerClaws; arrogantsob

Q: Does this mean that the four who died were all complicit in Obama’s gun running?


66 posted on 10/27/2012 7:12:16 PM PDT by Kimberly GG ("Path to Citizenship" Amnesty candidates will NOT get my vote!)
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To: Timber Rattler; bobsunshine
bob>Within 30 seconds to a minute after making the move to respond, his second in command apprehended General Ham and told him that he was now relieved of his command.

Knowing how the Army works, I have a lot of trouble believing this.

I don't have trouble believing this with Marxists in WH, DOD & State.

67 posted on 10/27/2012 7:14:05 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: Kimberly GG

Not necessarily, the CIA was allegedly trying to locate heavy duty weapons that had been looted from Quaddafi’s stash. Weapons that incompetence of Obama Administration failed to secure.

State Department and Ambassador may or may not have had a different agenda.

Katherine Herridge will be on Huckabee Sunday at 7 pm and she has lots to report on the subject. It’s worth listening.


68 posted on 10/27/2012 7:21:46 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Shery

What we have going on here isn’t a coup, it’s what dictators do to prevent a coup.

It’s called a PURGE.

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/RUSpurge.htm

The “soft purge” whereby non compliant or suspect officers are simply forced out or have their careers terminated over trivial stuff has been going on for several years now. I think that Lt. Col. Allan West was an early victim of the soft coup, as was Terry Lakin who doubted Hussein’s qualifications to be CiC.

With the Bengazi massacre (a minor massacre but nonetheless...) and the sudden sacking of at least 3 major Commanders, we just saw the soft purge ramp up a little.

Had a General resisted their “apprehension” (arrest) or displacement, I have little doubt that they would have been “neutralized” on the spot. This Chicago bunch plays for keeps, especially when they are working with the Ikwan/Jihad.

When Staff Officers start meeting their demise from “friendly fire” or mysterious accidents like the one that took out an Agriculture Secretary some years back - then you will know that the “Hard purge” has begun.

If Stalin’s model is resorted to, as it well may be, they will simply be taken out and shot.

Whatever remains of the US Military after a successful purge will not mind turning against the American People one little bit. Even if they do mind, they WILL obey.

Good luck with your hunting rifles guys; they are no match for the technical and tactical resources of even a surviving third of the US Military, never mind foreign “helpers”, domestic and imported Hajis and Obama’s Mercenaries.

If our military can’t or won’t save us, then it’s entirely up to God.

If you were God, would YOU save us?

For God’s sake; don’t let it happen, guys!


69 posted on 10/27/2012 7:25:02 PM PDT by George Varnum (Liberty, like our Forefather's Flintlock Musket, must be kept clean, oiled, and READY!)
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To: George Varnum

Don’t have to win them all, just leave a scar every chance you get!


70 posted on 10/27/2012 7:28:17 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: greeneyes

Thanks for the heads up....I’ll have to watch...call me crazy, but I’m not getting it...trying to figure out if the looted weapons were in the hands of pro-Quaddafi? Were we going to get them back and ‘redistribute’ them with the rest of the guns we were running to Al Qaeda?


71 posted on 10/27/2012 7:39:03 PM PDT by Kimberly GG ("Path to Citizenship" Amnesty candidates will NOT get my vote!)
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To: RoosterRedux

If this is indeed a major cover-up and coup in progress do you think you are going to have a secondary source!!!

Phhhhhtttt.....you trust the government press too much.


72 posted on 10/27/2012 7:44:00 PM PDT by EBH (0bama is guilty of willful neglect of duty.)
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To: bobsunshine; All
Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer: My sources tell me Obama was in the room watching Benghazi attack
73 posted on 10/27/2012 7:44:39 PM PDT by Larousse2 (The price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance. ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: TigerClaws

Makes sense.


74 posted on 10/27/2012 7:49:10 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: All
Folks, it's "court martial".
75 posted on 10/27/2012 8:11:34 PM PDT by OKSooner
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To: All
Folks, it's "court martial".
76 posted on 10/27/2012 8:11:51 PM PDT by OKSooner
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To: bobsunshine

So the rumors have now moved to the next level of news. I find that more interesting. Either Gateway Pundit is stupid to run with rumor or they have someone to back this story up.


77 posted on 10/27/2012 8:26:41 PM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: OKSooner
courts-martial is probably more correct.

http://www.constitution.org/mil/ucmj19970615.htm#IV

78 posted on 10/27/2012 8:35:55 PM PDT by stylin19a (Obama ->The Jayson Blair administration)
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To: okie01
Rodriguez requires Senate confirmation before he can assume his post.

I think this calls for a filibuster! Nothing will happen before the election. A filibuster on this would put a monkey wrench on every other agenda on Obama's list in a lame duck session!

79 posted on 10/27/2012 8:36:25 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: TigerClaws

You scenario is plausible. I still get cold chills as I remember Charles Woods talking about the President as this cold fish. No doubt in my mind that he is that sort of person. From day one, this is the impression he gave me.


80 posted on 10/27/2012 9:09:12 PM PDT by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: HollyB

Ping


81 posted on 10/27/2012 9:35:44 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: bobsunshine
General Ham then received the order to stand down. His response was to screw it, he was going to help anyhow. Within 30 seconds to a minute after making the move to respond, his second in command apprehended General Ham and told him that he was now relieved of his command.

What's missing is the answer to a very simple question :

Who has the authority to replace the Head of Africom?

And who isn't?

82 posted on 10/27/2012 9:54:38 PM PDT by publius911 (Formerly Publius 6961, formerly jennsdad)
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To: SCalGal

My thought precisely. Obama’s new appointees will be sycophants.


83 posted on 10/27/2012 10:10:29 PM PDT by ArmyTeach (Our liberties, we prize and our rights we will maintain ... USS Iowa BB 61)
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To: bobsunshine

Check back on this story about 24-36 hours later. Then the dust should be settled and we’ll see if an internal purge is beginning or not.

The timing is extremely suspicious.

I’m waiting for the two assets on the ground in Benghazi to come out and tell what they saw and heard (assuming that they exist).

Ty Wood’s father is carrying the spear for America right now and needs all the support we can give him.

It is time to end the High Crimes and Misdemeanor treason and incompetence.


84 posted on 10/27/2012 10:25:18 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: EBH

I don’t trust the press at all. But individuals (like the SF LTC that called Rush) have been coming forward.


85 posted on 10/28/2012 3:21:08 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (Obama: "If you've got a business -- you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen.")
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To: UriĀ’el-2012
I don't have trouble believing this with Marxists in WH, DOD & State.

In order for this "relieved-on-the-spot" scenario to play out, the WH, DOD, & State would have had to had the full and immediate cooperation of Ham's deputy commander and subordinates as well as the Joint Chiefs of Staff, all the while a major terrorist attack was under way.

Just don't see it happening.

Afterward, when the search for a scapegoat was underway, sure, but not during the attacks themselves.

86 posted on 10/28/2012 3:44:40 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: lucky american
What soldier would go into battle now knowing that he might not have his six covered ?

They would never send a soldier to Leavenworth, would they? </sarcasm>

87 posted on 10/28/2012 9:26:41 AM PDT by itsahoot (Any enemy that is allowed to have a King's X line, is undefeatable.)
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To: bobsunshine; All
Report: Obama Watched Benghazi Attack From 'Situation Room'

Justice with Judge Jeanine 10/27/12 - CIA talks about latest news about Benghazi coverup

Judge Jeanine speaking with Charles Woods, father of Benghazi slain SEAL Ty Woods

Judge Jeanine asks White House 'How do you sleep at night'

88 posted on 10/28/2012 11:46:25 AM PDT by Larousse2 (The price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance. ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: bobsunshine

The Admiral is in the 5th Fleet AO, not anywhere near Libya. I’ll repeat something I read which is this might be related to his behavior on liberty in Thailand or Malaysia. I’m not sure what kind of trouble you can get into in Thailand as a sailor.

General Ham has been in his position about 18 months. I don’t think it would be unusual to announce the name of the person nominated to replace him. When I was in the Navy you could negotiate your orders 6 months out. I would imagine these career guys spend a good bit of time mulling over what posts they want to bid on.

The use of the words relief and relieve have some tricky connotations. I checked the AFRICOM website also and Ham was still at the top of that. There is some PAO Captain whose major job is to make sure that website is accurate.

I also think that it would be impossible to keep news of a relief for cause under wraps from the 18th until today. There are just too many people who would know down to the General’s driver and they all have access to email and Facebook at this point.


89 posted on 10/28/2012 2:53:05 PM PDT by Belasarius (Yet man is born unto trouble, as the sparks fly upward. Job 5:2-7)
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To: Unrepentant VN Vet

bump


90 posted on 10/28/2012 9:29:23 PM PDT by milford421 ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke))
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