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Hurricane SANDY Forecast Discussion
National Hurrican Center ^ | October 28, AD 2012 | Staff

Posted on 10/28/2012 4:52:17 AM PDT by lightman

AS NOTED IN PREVIOUS ADVISORIES...TO AVOID A HIGHLY DISRUPTIVE CHANGE FROM TROPICAL TO NON-TROPICAL WARNINGS WHEN SANDY BECOMES POST-TROPICAL...THE WIND HAZARD NORTH OF THE TROPICAL STORM WARNING AREA WILL CONTINUE TO BE CONVEYED THROUGH HIGH WIND WATCHES AND WARNINGS ISSUED BY LOCAL NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE OFFICES.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: delmarva; hurricane; newjersey; sandy
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

Interesting. Thanks for that update. I still think it will head west but maybe not as far west as the current forecast.


21 posted on 10/28/2012 5:42:19 AM PDT by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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To: lightman
If like me and you'd rather skip all the middlemen. Go right to the source National Data Buoy Center
22 posted on 10/28/2012 5:42:26 AM PDT by NamVet71MP
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To: lightman

Why are they considered in denial?

The assessment seems rational and reasonable to me


23 posted on 10/28/2012 5:42:30 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: lightman

The problem is pretty simple, there’s a dual bureaucracy with the hurricane center and storm center with duplication and overlap. But the hurricane center which has the better handle on the storm is not allowed to keep predicting or even give out advance warnings for a non-hurricane. Sandy has already transitioned into a non-hurrcane (low pressure, large wind field)


24 posted on 10/28/2012 5:45:01 AM PDT by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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To: Fishtalk

“They’re warning us plenty about Sandy here in the swamps of Delaware, where we expected to take a direct hit.”

Big question is whether your electrical utility does tree trimming. Here in tidewater VA, they didn’t until after Isabel which pretty much destroyed large chunks of the electrical grid. They got downright militant on the tree trimming after that.


25 posted on 10/28/2012 5:45:33 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Leftists are the small hive beetles of the American hive)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

What??
http://my.sfwmd.gov/sfwmd/common/images/weather/plots/storm_18.gif


26 posted on 10/28/2012 5:47:35 AM PDT by VaRepublican (I would propagate taglines but I don't know how. But bloggers do.)
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To: palmer
Sandy has already transitioned into a non-hurrcane (low pressure, large wind field

It has not - the core temperature is still significantly higher than the surrounding air - hence it's still warm core.

27 posted on 10/28/2012 5:49:32 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: driftdiver; All
Does anyone else have the feeling that God might be angry at radical liberals over their convention platform vote?

How many times does a hurricane swerve around Florida at the last min, skip most of the southern Atlantic states, and head straight for the heart of the radical liberal cities?

28 posted on 10/28/2012 5:54:37 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: lightman

From what I’m seeing around my little portion of NJ, folks are taking it very seriously.

We have been preparing since Thursday, gutters cleaned, everything off the deck, huge generator in place, water, toilet paper, milk & bread in house. We have plenty of grilling food and canned goods. Since we don’t live near the coast, we won’t be boarding up the windows.

Please note: We also live in the predominately Republican part of the state and do not rely on the nattering nannies.


29 posted on 10/28/2012 5:54:56 AM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes mandatory- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
Half the models now show the storm paralleling the East Coast, heading further NE then going almost straight North to Nova Scotia. Yesterday all models had it hitting the US Northeast.

Please don't comment on things you don't understand.

The "models" with a miss are very old, very primitive (as old as the 1970s) and/or are variations that do not apply to a system such as Sandy for various complicated reasons. They aren't even looked at by NHC. I actually think they really should stop running them.

The difference between those models and the ones with NJ hits are like the difference between a Commodore 64 and a supercomputer.

Every single legitimate modern model has a hit in New Jersey.

30 posted on 10/28/2012 5:55:15 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Beagle8U

No, I do not believe that is the case, especially after a plane just crashed in Afghanistan with the our troops military ballots.


31 posted on 10/28/2012 5:57:09 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

This graphic shows a different story.

http://my.sfwmd.gov/sfwmd/common/images/weather/plots/storm_18.gif

While some of those models do, indeed, show the storm staying over the ocean longer and then moving into Nova Scotia, those are hurricane track models. By this time tomorrow Sandy will either be transforming into a mid-latitude cyclone or done with the process. Cold core. Nor’easter. Hurricane track models don’t do well with Nor’easters.

I HOPE is doesn’t take that turn to the west and into the Mid-Atlantic region... especially as I live in Maryland. But it is looking more and more like the models are right on this one.

At least it won’t be cold enough for snow except in the mountains.

Good luck to everyone in the storm’s path... hopefully they will only be fish!


32 posted on 10/28/2012 5:58:18 AM PDT by FUBO (and EFF EWE Al Gore)
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To: Lil Flower
The “land mass between NO and AL” is not below sea level

True, but Bush took most of the flak from NOLA and the stupid people residing therein.

33 posted on 10/28/2012 5:58:53 AM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: RKBA Democrat

Did they cancel the VA NASCAR race today?


34 posted on 10/28/2012 5:59:24 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Beagle8U
Does anyone else have the feeling that God might be angry at radical liberals over their convention platform vote?

No.

How many times does a hurricane swerve around Florida at the last min, skip most of the southern Atlantic states, and head straight for the heart of the radical liberal cities?

Florida is the most commonly hit state in the US by tropical systems.

Katrina devastated Mississippi.

The last hurricane with 20 Billion dollars + damage was Ike, which hit Texas in 2008.

35 posted on 10/28/2012 6:00:00 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: NamVet71MP

Just looked at that site - they’ve got flashing “tsunami event” for US/Canada West coast, Hawaii, etc.

Low level, minimal damage expected

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/10/28/tsunami-warning-issued-after-magnitude-77-earthquake-strikes-off-coast-western/


36 posted on 10/28/2012 6:00:00 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Beagle8U

I don’t know. I don’t follow NASCAR. If it’s in Richmond or further west, probably not.


37 posted on 10/28/2012 6:02:51 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Leftists are the small hive beetles of the American hive)
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To: RKBA Democrat; driftdiver; lightman

It’s amazing how the winds are amped-up in those valleys of glass & steel. Back in the 70s & 80s, rooftop gardening was just beginning; now, it’s everywhere. Sheds, water towers, furniture, pots, railings, planters etc etc are very prevalent at way too many bldgs. I’d hope they have some ordinances about securing all that stuff, but I doubt it. But who knows? It’s a debris-raining-down disaster in and of itself, just waiting to happen, in a big blow, like what’s coming. Too many NYC’ers just poo-poo it all; thinking they’ll be okay.

I keep thinking about 9-11-01 when the planes crashed into WTC and the glass/debris came down on all those people. The pics were horrible.


38 posted on 10/28/2012 6:03:05 AM PDT by Carriage Hill ("0bummer's a towering figure" - even a Garden Gnome casts a long shadow at sunset.)
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To: Strategerist

I’m in south Jersey. The entire lower part of the state is one giant sandbar not too far above sea level. It’ll be very interesting to see how we fair with this thing. We stocked up on batteries and canned and dry food. We filled a fifteen gallon tank with fresh water in case the runoff messes with our city water. No generator. We can read a book for a few days if necessary. We cleared everything out of the yard, but not much more. We’re ready to hunker down for the duration!


39 posted on 10/28/2012 6:06:30 AM PDT by Magnatron
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To: lightman

In the mountains of East Tennessee and Southwest Virginia, 1 to 4 inches are expected to be widespread with 4 to 8 inches forecast for elevations above 3,000 feet.

Much colder air moving into the southern Appalachians with strong winds and abundant moisture reaching the area from the remnants of Sandy will combine to generate a strong winter storm. the Weather Service said.

http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2012/oct/28/hurricane-sandy-bring-snow-tennessee-mountains/


40 posted on 10/28/2012 6:10:12 AM PDT by HangnJudge
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