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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 28 October 2012
Various driveby media television networks ^ | 28 October 2012 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 10/28/2012 5:15:50 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!

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To: MissMagnolia

Rep. Gohmert is an American hero. One of the good guys in congress. His video must be very popular. I can’t get it to load right now. Will try later again. Thank you for the link.


151 posted on 10/28/2012 8:03:01 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: kabar
"This was all a smokescreen to delay the investigation and perhaps hinder it since visiting a two or three week old "crime scene" would reveal less than being there almost immediately. "

My thought as well. I appreciate your opinion. Do I remember you have some background in the state department ?

152 posted on 10/28/2012 8:03:13 AM PDT by chiller (First check the poll's Dem/Rep/Ind sampling numbers, then re-think.)
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To: PaleoBob
You could be right. But I just can't help but think that if the ambassador was alive enough for the terror types to trade for the blind sheik after they got through with him doing what they do, they would still have kept him and traded him.

My guess is he was dead or they thought he was dead. We many never know.

153 posted on 10/28/2012 8:04:56 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Safetgiver
I thought “ A nothing rainstorm, but a full fledged attack on American citizens he can’t handle?”

AGREED!! He cancels campaign appearances for a storm but when Americans are being killed and begging for help - he can fly off to Las Vegas, etc. Dispicable (am going to have to get out my thesaurus for adequate adjectives to describe this .....)

154 posted on 10/28/2012 8:05:42 AM PDT by Momto2 (I am praying for Israel...)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Wow that’s big! Which general?


155 posted on 10/28/2012 8:06:30 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Fishtalk

Those were not drones overhead either. If an Ambassador is being attacked in Libya there is likely automatic procedures which only the CIA knows about. One of which would be scrambling Spectre immediately which was likely done and why the Seal was painting the mortars.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2950841/posts


156 posted on 10/28/2012 8:07:10 AM PDT by bray (Islam- A billion medieval savages can't be wrong!)
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To: rodguy911
More bad news for the Northeast coast.

Obama says he is going to be monitoring the hurricane from the White House...

157 posted on 10/28/2012 8:07:52 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Hope and Change has become Attack and Obfuscate.)
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To: milagro

Maybe, 0bama was running the “cries for help” past the lawyers and their Rules of Engagement manuals. Maybe they thought that large group of men came from a wedding party??


158 posted on 10/28/2012 8:08:03 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

No problem there! I don’t trust anyone but freepers!!


159 posted on 10/28/2012 8:08:03 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Alas Babylon!

The media has gone full-blown Soviet. Protect ‘Dear leader’ at ALL costs...even at the cost of their credibility. The behavior of the media is reminiscent of a cult...


160 posted on 10/28/2012 8:08:58 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: kabar

Strictly political decision? I don’t think so and this is why..........Obama passed ON THE GREATEST POLITICAL OPPORTUNTY ANY PRESIDENT HAS EVER HAD in the fall of an election year. Imagine a BINLADEN rerun, seals, delta force, troops taking the consulate in real time video, and rescuing Americans. We would be watching this rescue mission 24/7 right up and through Obamas re-election. It was right at his fingertips and yet he STOOD DOWN......WHAT WAS MORE IMPORTANT?


161 posted on 10/28/2012 8:10:38 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: Son House

the game has become all to obvious with the dbm at this point. Talk about anything but Bengahzi and that’s all we will hear until the 6th. I am convinced if we want Benghazi as an issue we have to pursue it here and hope that talk radio keeps up with it.
Otherwise its all big bird and binders.


162 posted on 10/28/2012 8:11:10 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: maggief

That hurricane turns so sharp in what they are trying to predict, I don’t think it’s going to impact as so, the cold air is already there, so my guess is it’s going to push more to the coast line, and the disclaimer, I’m not a professional meteorologist nor a member of the media...


163 posted on 10/28/2012 8:12:18 AM PDT by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: maggief; rodguy911

Well..if he did make the call..this is another impeachable offense I would think, because he is an advisor and not in the official chain of command.

This would be huge Maggie! He is also, as a czar, not required to answer to Congress(is he?). You may have something here.


164 posted on 10/28/2012 8:12:41 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: MustKnowHistory
Don't forget it goes against the Peaceful Religion narrative we have been told. We don't want anybody realizing it is a death cult.

Pray for America

165 posted on 10/28/2012 8:13:43 AM PDT by bray (Islam- A billion medieval savages can't be wrong!)
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To: Fishtalk
"he better not make reaching across aisles his priority."

Actually, I think his reaching across the aisle skills will come in handy. After a huge popular vote mandate, there will be a few dems willing to save themselves and cooperate. The 51st senator perhaps, if needed. Or....the 60th !

166 posted on 10/28/2012 8:15:14 AM PDT by chiller (First check the poll's Dem/Rep/Ind sampling numbers, then re-think.)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

You can bet we will get lots of leadership pics of him for his cult members in the media. Cwiss Mathews may have a stroke.


167 posted on 10/28/2012 8:16:42 AM PDT by bray (Islam- A billion medieval savages can't be wrong!)
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To: bray
Like the WWII ditty,

Obama, he only has one ball,
Bite-me has two but they are very small,
Clinton, has a collection,
while Pelosi is braking them all.

168 posted on 10/28/2012 8:17:40 AM PDT by Happy Rain (Mitt 4 then Sarah 8)
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To: Son House

If the damage gets too severe are they going to arrest an anti-global warming movie director?


169 posted on 10/28/2012 8:18:15 AM PDT by bray (Islam- A billion medieval savages can't be wrong!)
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To: Unrepentant VN Vet
"It's not a scandal if we don't report it."


170 posted on 10/28/2012 8:18:45 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: penelopesire

With that in mind, take a look at Petraeus’ recent request for more armed drones.

(Interesting timing, IMHO.)

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2012/10/19/White-House-urged-to-boost-CIA-drone-fleet/UPI-32991350628200/?spt=hs&or=tn

Excerpt

It is being evaluated by a White House panel known as the Counter-terrorism Security Group, chaired by President Barack Obama’s chief counter-terrorism adviser, John O. Brennan, officials said.


171 posted on 10/28/2012 8:20:23 AM PDT by maggief
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To: Fishtalk
Its difficult to put together. What we do know is all the denials of security for an area that had numerous terrorist attacks for months before seemed bizarre. We do know that all the other embassies had been closed. Most everyone else got out of the area.it was loaded with terror types,hard to secure unsafe at best.

The excuse for not giving Stevens security, especially since he was on a known terrorist hit list, is weak at best. The excuse being that the regime wanted a lower profile and were going to use locals for security. Pretty weak IMHO.IT's difficult as you say to tell what part was planned and what part just fell into place and became not necessarily what the regime was looking for but events evolving.

Bottom line there are few excuses for not giving him the security he requested and even fewer for not sending in help when they requested it during the attack.

What the actual planning was we may never know as you say.

172 posted on 10/28/2012 8:20:51 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Fishtalk
Humidor comes up with the video thing

I have not done an extensive search, but the video excuse seemed to 'evolve' [Team Obama and MSM sure do like that word] in this manner:

173 posted on 10/28/2012 8:20:59 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: rodguy911

The latest rumor making the rounds is that Barack Obama replaced General Carter Ham at Africom after the general made a move to help the US security officials at the Benghazi consulate and annex. Ham was replaced by Gen. David Rodriquez on October 18. Tiger Droppings reported: The information I heard today was that General [Carter] Ham as head of Africom received the same e-mails the White House received requesting help/support as the attack was taking place. General Ham immediately had a rapid response unit ready and communicated to the Pentagon that he had a unit ready.
General Ham then received the order to stand down. His response was to screw it, he was going to help anyhow. Within 30 seconds to a minute after making the move to respond, his second in command apprehended General Ham and told him that he was now relieved of his command.

The story continues that now General Rodiguez would take General Ham’s place as the head of Africom


174 posted on 10/28/2012 8:20:59 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: All

Newt Gingrich on “This Week”:

“We all condemn rape. Now lets talk about whether we condemn killing babies in the 8th and 9th month.” He brought up the Benghazi scandal, high gas prices and the economy as working against Obama.


175 posted on 10/28/2012 8:21:41 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: Travis McGee

Those [BLEEP]s are still on my List for what they did during ‘Nam.

....and they will be there always.


176 posted on 10/28/2012 8:22:51 AM PDT by Unrepentant VN Vet
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To: Unrepentant VN Vet
"It's not a scandal if we don't report it."


177 posted on 10/28/2012 8:23:15 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: rodguy911

Here’s the link on The rumors on Gen Ham..

www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/10/has_general_ham_been_fired.html


178 posted on 10/28/2012 8:23:28 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: maica

An autopsy would also show a sexual assault that occured pre or post mortem.

We’ll never be told what happened by this gang.


179 posted on 10/28/2012 8:24:23 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: kabar

Makes good sense.
I am thoroughly amazed at how many people, corporations are participating in this cover up. Its truly amazing.
I just watched an hour of MTP and abc with stephy and Benghazi never came up on either show!!Truly amazing.


180 posted on 10/28/2012 8:24:28 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: penelopesire; All
I would also look for someone very prominent coming out next week under whistleblower protections. Hopefully, the video is about to get leaked as well.

Fast & Furious proved there are no whistleblower protections from this regime. Just ask the BP agents who went for that to expose the whole program.

181 posted on 10/28/2012 8:24:34 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: bray
I don't think the majority of the press is covering for him now over ideology. They can see he is a freaking train wreck. They cover for him in exchange for access. They can't afford to be frozen out over the next couple of days and believe me, Obie would do it.
182 posted on 10/28/2012 8:25:37 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Hope and Change has become Attack and Obfuscate.)
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To: rodguy911
A Libyan doctor who treated Stevens said he died of severe asphyxiation, apparently from smoke. In a sign of the chaos of during the attack, Stevens was brought alone by Libyans to the Benghazi Medical Center with no other Americans, and no one at the facility knew who he was,

I read on another thread that this doesn't make sense...

If it was in fact Stevens phone it would be password protected....

In any case...what happened to the phone....?

Also if they didn't know who he was then his wallet was gone...

so his real phone was taken by his killers....

So I guess they also took his phone...so eventually the password gets cracked and all his contacts and phone numbers are compromised...

The killers then planted another phone with the number of the Embassy so they could find Stevens. ....

no one at the facility knew who he was,

......MORE LIES....

I read on yet another thread that Stevens cover in Libya was that he was arranging a cooperation between US and Libyan hospitals...

Stevens was in contact with all the main Libyan hospitals...

Stevens was an Arabist and spoke the language...

183 posted on 10/28/2012 8:26:32 AM PDT by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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To: Son House

There is one model that stays well off US shore.

http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/tracking/at201218_model.html


184 posted on 10/28/2012 8:27:21 AM PDT by maggief
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To: rodguy911

Snopes=Soros

VERY unreliable source.


185 posted on 10/28/2012 8:27:59 AM PDT by COUNTrecount (Clear eyes. Full hearts. Can't fail.)
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To: csmusaret

The same trucks that brought them, took the bodies. Old trick in asymmetrical warfare, pick up all your dead. It has a demoralizing effect on the enemy to see the results of a ferocious fire fight but find no dead enemies.


186 posted on 10/28/2012 8:28:12 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Considering 0 approval rate is plummeting, I think Bengahzi is having an impact despite the total Mass Media blackout. The alternative media, (Talk Radio-Social Media-Internet) plus Fox are getting the message out there.


187 posted on 10/28/2012 8:30:59 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Son House

Mr. Newt was way above the call of duty today. And he finished so strong I thought Georgy, the left wing commie bastard was going to cry, piss-ant coward that he is.

The abortion / rape issue that Mr. Newt finished with was - Obama and Democrats are in favor of killing the Unborn, they voted for late term abortion and for the murder of children that survive late term abortions.


188 posted on 10/28/2012 8:32:18 AM PDT by DanZ
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To: maggief
He(Brennan) well could have made the call. He had/has a lot of authority on drone strikes it appears. The game may have been to let Brennan make the decision then zero makes the call and they throw various others under the bus,hard to tell yet.

this below is from your link:

Although he insists that all agencies have the opportunity to weigh in on decisions, making differing perspectives available to the Oval Office, Brennan wields enormous power in shaping decisions on “kill” lists and the allocation of armed drones, the war’s signature weapon. When operations are proposed in Yemen, Somalia or elsewhere, it is Brennan alone who takes the recommendations to Obama for a final sign-off.

189 posted on 10/28/2012 8:32:35 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: chiller

Let me take a moment and agree with you.

He can do all the reaching he wants, indeed he SHOULD reach.

He should do it with political aplomb NOT for fear of bad press and cocktail party invites.

I think Romney quite capable of doing this and for the early criticism of Romney (and make no mistake I was NOT silent), I did tend to allow him space for working so well with what is such a very, very blue state.

The umbrage was that Romney enacted a state health care plan but a)his overwhelmingly blue state wanted such a thing witness the majority of their elected officals who back it and b)it was a state thing and by all in me, I’d allow a state health ins. mandate thing to be determined by the denizens. Not very smart on these matters but I’ve got an open mind to states setting the agenda, more input from citizens.

I trust a business owner to reach across aisles more than a community organizer and more than a McCain all busy pimping that stupid campaign finance reform bill that had us all awake nights for our concern.

It’s my story and I’m sticking to it.


190 posted on 10/28/2012 8:33:20 AM PDT by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

I’m sick of that storm! I was one day ahead of it all week long,just got back last night.


191 posted on 10/28/2012 8:34:25 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: rodguy911
Bowbama - "Stand down!"

9-11 HEROES then and now - "LET'S ROLL!"

192 posted on 10/28/2012 8:35:10 AM PDT by Bushbacker1 (I miss President Bush! 2012 - The End Of An Error! (Oathkeeper))
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To: rodguy911

Going on 2 hours of a MSNBC Harris-Perry ‘live’ show, and haven’t heard one iota about Benghazi, but plenty of rebuttal of anything Republican, as expected from these Democrat hacks. Nothing intellectually honest from abortion to early voting, the guest are all Democrat hacks too.


193 posted on 10/28/2012 8:36:25 AM PDT by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: Toespi
There is only one thing important to the Dear Leader and that's the politics of any situation. Your post is logical and makes so much sense that you have to figure there had to be a huge political value in not doing what you said. That's all that makes any sense.
194 posted on 10/28/2012 8:38:22 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: MNJohnnie

Speculation aside, have you seen one single story or report that even mentions terrorist casualties?


195 posted on 10/28/2012 8:38:43 AM PDT by csmusaret (I will give Obama credit for one thing- he is living proof that familiarity breeds contempt.)
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To: maica

Reversing Roe V Wade is such a wonky argument althought it is a good one. The problem with it is that most people assume reversing Roe V Wade means ending abortion which is why it’s a loser for the GOP....even though it is actually the only way the abortion issue ever dies down.

Let’s review. Roe V Wade says that the right to an abortion is in the constitution. This is just not so!!! Reversing Roe V Wade would simply be staing the obvious.

Now, for the pro abortion crowd should Roe V Wade be reversed, the issue would simply be sent to the states in the same way the ‘death penalty’, ‘gay marriage’, and a host of other issues are sent to the states. In the end, the citezens of each state would vote on abortion much like they vote on the death penalty. My guess is a lot states would be pro choice with a few choosing to be pro-life. This process is normally referred to as ‘demoocracy.’

In this way, much of the ‘heat’ would be alleviated from the debate as the ‘people will have spoken.’ And, that’s the real problem with Roe V Wade...the people do not feel like they’ve had a chance to speak. This causes pent-up frustration and anger.

Now, once the people have spoken, the argument will next evolve into public funding for abortions. As a conservative with libertarian leanings I’m pro-choice but, do not think any public money should be used for abortions.

If Roe V Wade never pased, these issues would have been resolved by the end of the 1970’s but......we have activist courts who make law from the bench.


196 posted on 10/28/2012 8:39:52 AM PDT by Mustangman (The GOP)
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To: rodguy911

No, there’s a lot more to the story.

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197 posted on 10/28/2012 8:40:12 AM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: MNJohnnie
Rolling out the slutty first time voting commercial can't have helped either.

Lots of stupid coming out of the White Hut these days.

Maybe that is what desperation looks like...

198 posted on 10/28/2012 8:40:48 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Hope and Change has become Attack and Obfuscate.)
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To: rodguy911

Stevens being taken to the Hospital by the Libyans fits the story line about it being a kidnap attempt busted up by the CIA agents on scene. They had him and wanted to keep him alive.


199 posted on 10/28/2012 8:40:49 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: rodguy911
Wow that’s big! Which general?

Gen. Carter Ham, was appointed to AFRICOM a few months ago, then suddenly, inexplicably released from command about 18 October 2012. He was replaced by Gen. David Rodriguez.

American Thinker: Has General Ham Been Fired?
200 posted on 10/28/2012 8:41:49 AM PDT by TomGuy
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