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Gov. John Kasich Predicts Romney Wins Ohio
Newsmax ^ | 10/28/2012 | By Stephen Feller

Posted on 10/28/2012 10:49:19 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Ohio Gov. John Kasich declared Sunday that GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney is now poised to beat President Barack Obama in his critical battleground state.

Appearing on NBC's “Meet the Press,” Kasich cited internal campaign polling that shows Romney with a lead in The Buckeye State.

This was the first time that Kasich said Romney could carry the state. He pointed to a swing in momentum since the first presidential debate in which Romney bested President Obama’s lackluster performance.

The debates were a turning point in Romney’s campaign for president because they gave people a chance to see him, rather than what he was portrayed as in commercials and interviews.

“You look at his history and it tells you who the guy is,” Kasich said. “He’s pragmatic, no question about it, but he’s also tough and he’s firm and he understands job creation . . . I’ve never seen a debate have this much impact. The first debate gave people a chance to see him.”

Concerns about people not “getting” Romney should not be an issue, according to Kasich, because of his record in business, as governor of Massachusetts, and in turning around the 2002 Winter Olympics where he was a “pure leader.”

“I believe that he was able to connect with people and they thought, ‘you know, maybe he does get me. And that was an important part of why there’s so much momentum in the state of Ohio right now,” he said.

Kasich, nevertheless, predicted a close election.

“It’s going to be really close,” Kasich said. “I do think we’re going to know before the end of the night. The independent voters are trending high toward Romney.”

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: 2012predictions; 2012swingstates; kasich; oh2012; ohio; romney

1 posted on 10/28/2012 10:49:28 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Any word on those buses of Somalians? Maybe the good Governor can look into that?


2 posted on 10/28/2012 10:51:07 AM PDT by Blue Turtle
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To: SeekAndFind

Close or not close that is the probable outcome.


3 posted on 10/28/2012 10:58:29 AM PDT by Leep (Are you smarter than a 7th grade math student and or Barack 0bama?)
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To: Blue Turtle

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/10/are_somali_pirates_voting_in_ohio.html


4 posted on 10/28/2012 11:08:53 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: SeekAndFind

From his lips to God’s ears.


5 posted on 10/28/2012 11:27:27 AM PDT by traderrob6
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To: SeekAndFind

John Kasich was a major GOP leader during the 90s and it seems he has all but disappeared this election.

Glad he finally decided to show up.


6 posted on 10/28/2012 11:31:09 AM PDT by radpolis (Liberals: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy)
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To: radpolis

You’re not from OH, are you? ‘Course, I’m not either, but he didn’t exactly disappear and the last great thing he did was become Gov. of OH in 2010 and worked to bring businesses back to OH and to balance the state budget that was totally out of whack.

But you remember him from the ‘90s??

OK...if you say so.


7 posted on 10/28/2012 11:40:29 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear". (Glenn Beck))
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To: txrangerette

I am sorry, but I didn’t mean to discount him being elevated to the governorship to Ohio.

The point I was making is that during the 90s, he was a national GOP leader, and that as governor, it seems weird that he hasn’t had the same exposure as somebody like Senator Portman, who is an Ohio politician that acts as a surrogate for the Romney campaign, while Kasich hasn’t been visible.

If you are going to be sarcastic and nasty, I wish you would save that for liberals instead of fellow Freepers.


8 posted on 10/28/2012 11:59:37 AM PDT by radpolis (Liberals: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy)
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To: SeekAndFind

Would have found that most encouraging had I not just read the thread about voter fraud...MIDDLEMAN...and Soros company controlling the count.


9 posted on 10/28/2012 12:04:59 PM PDT by Churchillspirit (9/11/2001. NEVER FORGET.)
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To: SeekAndFind
As more details come out on the refusal to aid the Americans who were left to die, Obama is going to lose more and more votes.

This election isn't going to be close.

10 posted on 10/28/2012 12:28:35 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: radpolis

I think Obama put an extreme focus on Ohio because they knew if Kerry had just flipped Ohio in 2004, he would’ve won the electoral college with more EVs than Bush.

Romney has 248 EVs if he wins VA, NC and FL. Let’s look at what he needs out of the remaining 8 swing states to win, starting from the biggest prize and working down the list. I’ll count all the Obama and Romney-leaning states as wins for their candidate.

Swing states:
Pennsylvania (20)
Ohio (18)
Michigan (16)
Wisconsin (10)
Colorado (9)
Iowa (6)
Nevada (6)
New Hampshire (4)

Winning OH gets him 266. He needs any one of the other 7 remaining swing states to win, the smallest being NH.

Winning PA puts him in the same position at 268 of needing one more state.

Winning MI puts him in almost the same position, except NH wouldn’t be enough to put him over the top then, he’d need any one of the other bigger states.

Winning WI gives him 258 EVs. He needs 12 more EVs to win. It could be CO and any one of NH, IA or NV, or it could just be IA and NV.

If he misses all those bigger states, then he needs all 4 of CO, IA, NV and NH to win outright. He could lose NH in that scenario and still tie, which would guarantee him the win in the tie-breaking House vote, but possibly allow the Senate to elect Biden as V.P.


11 posted on 10/28/2012 12:35:43 PM PDT by JediJones (Vote NO on Proposition Zero! Tuesday, November 6th!)
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To: radpolis

My opinion is it’s more likely Romney can win CO, NH and WI than it is that he can win OH. He polls best in CO and NH out of all these swing states, and both the Scott Walker recall and Paul Ryan should give him an unusual boost in WI, the same way the auto bailout gives Obama an unusual boost in OH.

Romney should focus like a laser on CO, NH and WI and not put all his eggs in OH. OH is looking to me like PA was for McCain in 2008, a state they’re putting tremendous resources in which is going to prove to be a waste.

If it’s a “landslide” election, the resources in OH won’t make much of a difference and Romney will win over 300 EVs. If it’s a close election, OH is the wrong state to put resources into.


12 posted on 10/28/2012 12:39:32 PM PDT by JediJones (Vote NO on Proposition Zero! Tuesday, November 6th!)
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To: SeekAndFind; All
R + R - Defiance, OH


13 posted on 10/28/2012 1:04:48 PM PDT by QT3.14 (November 6: Remember BENGHAZI!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Kasich, nevertheless, predicted a close election.”

Posted earlier in another thread, but I’ll repeat:


My official FR predictions:
Ohio 2012 is going to turn out as did Florida 2000 — that is, a “squeaker” that will be bitterly contested by the ‘rats in a mad scramble to steal the election. However...

Prediction #2 — if Romney wins enough other states (Iowa, Wisconsin, Colorado, New Hampshire) so that the 18 electoral votes of Ohio are no longer necessary for him to win in the Electoral College, watch the ‘rats drop their struggle to steal Ohio and just walk away....

I would enjoy being proven wrong, and would relish a Romney win in OH of 3-5%.
But I sense this one is going down to the neck-and-neck until the final votes are counted.


14 posted on 10/28/2012 1:13:11 PM PDT by Road Glide
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To: radpolis

I am from OH and the reason that Kasich has not been more visible is because of the drubbing that he took last year for Issue #2. He got pension reform passed in the legislature and the unions got together and got a referendum on the ballot and the repeal passed.

Even though Kasich’s programs have increased employment in the state, his favorability because of Issue 2 is still down lower than it should be. It was a strategic decision on the part of the Romney campaign to not have Kasich highly visible - even though Kasich has been at all of the Romney rallies. On the other hand Portman still remains very popular, hence Portman is Romney’s pointman in Ohio.

Ti Cobra


15 posted on 10/28/2012 1:16:32 PM PDT by TiCobra
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To: TiCobra

Thanks, I appreciate the Ohio perspective.

I wish more Freepers who are in the battlegrounds would analyze what is going on in their states more often.

Your comments helped me understand the situation better.


16 posted on 10/28/2012 1:22:04 PM PDT by radpolis (Liberals: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy)
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To: txrangerette

Could not say it better. there are too many fly swatting Freepers who are experts in all manner of things but could not create a winning game if their lives depended on it. Well said.


17 posted on 10/28/2012 1:23:23 PM PDT by GilGil
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To: SeekAndFind

Earlier this week, Gingrich said the internals from Ohio showed Romney +2. Nice to see Kasich echo this.

Whether a point ahead or a point behind, the key is we are so close that GOTV is more important than ever.

If Romney is as good an executive as I believe he is, he will make sure we get it done next Tuesday.


18 posted on 10/28/2012 2:33:08 PM PDT by comebacknewt (Newt (sigh) what could have been . . .)
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To: radpolis

Gov. Kasich has been out on the campaign trail with Mitt at several rallies. Mostly, it has been Rob Portman. But, Kasich has done what he could.


19 posted on 10/28/2012 2:52:58 PM PDT by Catsrus (Ma)
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To: radpolis

Wow, mine was the mildest “sarcastic and nasty” I’ve seen here.

I think the explanation offered of his titanic struggle in OH to deal with the situation there and of course he got on the bad side of the unions and was strongly attacked for all his efforts...a la Scott Walker in WI...is a good way of putting what’s been going on with him.

And as was stated, he has participated in the election as best he could, but the more popular Portman is the out-front guy there. Even so, I’ve seen Kasich at rallies and I heard him a couple weeks back on the Sunday night Bill Cunningham radio show out of Cincinnati, in which he commented about the election prospects of Mitt.

He told Bill that in his opinion what Mitt needed to do was follow up his first debate by just continuing to come back and back and back to OH, to let the people there get a sense of him to reinforce what he’s really like as opposed to what Obama and Biden want people to believe, and from that he thought Mitt could win that state.

But stressed he thought it was, and would be even in victory, CLOSE.

It was good to hear him in that interview.


20 posted on 10/28/2012 3:26:31 PM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear". (Glenn Beck))
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To: Blue Turtle

Don’t worry. Kasich will be all over it own quiet, competent way.

Moreover, we own the Sec of State seat for this election. In Ohio the SecState runs elections.

We also own the supreme court, the senate, and the house.


21 posted on 10/28/2012 3:43:19 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

Thanks...good to know.


22 posted on 10/28/2012 4:43:29 PM PDT by Blue Turtle
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To: Churchillspirit

Fraud is always a concern. But the fact that OH, PA, WI, VA, FL, IA, and NV have Republican governors betters the chances of fairness and enforcement.


23 posted on 10/28/2012 4:59:48 PM PDT by paul544
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To: JediJones

I see Romney winning seven of those eight states.


24 posted on 10/28/2012 6:46:29 PM PDT by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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To: radpolis

The Romney ground game in Ohio is much stronger than with McCain 2008. Partly that’s due to Romney’s organizing experience, plus him keeping what he built in 2008, and partly that’s Tea Party and regular Republicans realizing what Obama is really all about.

Early evidence is that a lot more Republicans are voting early this year compared to 2008. Reports also indicate Obama volunteers in Ohio are a lot less active than in 2008, where my door was knocked on by at least 4 Obama volunteers - and zero contact from McCain aside from a general Republican mailer a week before the election. Many Obama 2008 volunteers are disappointed in Obama continuing to have troops in Afghanistan, plus no jobs/student loans doesn’t help. Most 20 somethings don’t really want to live with mom and dad.


25 posted on 10/28/2012 7:04:37 PM PDT by bIlluminati (290 Reps, 67 Senators, 38 state legislatures - Impeach, convict, amend)
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To: Hoodat

I see Romney winning:

Colorado (9)
perhaps Iowa (6) and maybe
New Hampshire (4)

Completely out of reach (pipe dream country) are:

Pennsylvania (20)
Michigan (16)
Wisconsin (10)

That leaves:
Ohio (18)

and the polls do not look good there. I think Romney’s position on the auto industry will prove to be the deciding factor.


26 posted on 10/28/2012 7:39:27 PM PDT by Perkalong
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To: JediJones
but possibly allow the Senate to elect Biden as V.P.

If it were a tie, the RATs would make Obama VP - he would then preside over the Senate as well. He will no go willingly ...

27 posted on 10/28/2012 7:49:48 PM PDT by 11th_VA (Keep your laws OFF my Big Gulp !)
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To: 11th_VA
They have to pick from the top two Vice President winners, as per the 12th amendment, so Obama is not an option.

The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.

28 posted on 10/28/2012 8:03:31 PM PDT by JediJones (Vote NO on Proposition Zero! Tuesday, November 6th!)
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To: txrangerette; radpolis
'Course I'm not from OH either but I understand what radpolis meant.

When Kasich was a Congressman he had a lot of face time on TV. After becoming gov of OH we seldom see him on TV.

It's nothing to be "tacky" about txrangerette!

I remember him from years past, as well. OK!

29 posted on 10/28/2012 8:12:33 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: lonestar

This has been a good thread for me because I have learned a lot about Ohio politics.

However, I am really dumbfounded about the invisible Kasich at the national level, considering he was a GOP star during the 90s, and was more or less a national spokesperson for the party much of that time between 94-2000.

Despite whatever is happening in Ohio and his popularity, it seems that he should be out there nationally as a Ohio face supporting the ticket.

I doubt that many people in the country even know that Ohio is a major GOP controlled state now.

By listening to the national media, you’d think Ohio is dark blue controlled by liberals, and it would be a miracle for Romney to win it.


30 posted on 10/28/2012 8:31:20 PM PDT by radpolis (Liberals: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy)
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To: radpolis
He's busy, running the State of Ohio. He does in-state interviews for the media regularly however.
31 posted on 10/28/2012 8:39:26 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: radpolis
The reason you saw a lot of Kasich at the "national level in the 90's" is because he was the Chair of the House Budget Committee and was the point man to negotiate a balanced budget with Clinton and get it through Congress. Other than that he was not much of a party spokesperson about anything.
32 posted on 10/28/2012 8:47:42 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: radpolis

Being familiar with Congressman Kasich but not very familiar with OH politics, I was surprised how tight Kasich’s race for gov was. It was very close, IIRC. He was one of my favorite Congressmen and I do miss seeing him but I have seen him on TV at RR campaign rallies.


33 posted on 10/28/2012 9:10:47 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: radpolis
pubs EAT their own...Kascich is NOT a conservative pub, but he's decent enough....he is charismatic, well spoken...and YOUNG...something the pub party seems to discourage in its politicians....seems the elites like em' older, fatter, whiter, with glasses and bald....

of course I'm just kidding, but Palin and ODonnell have been treated horribly...no question about that....

about what Kasich said....I don't think he would come out and say this if he didn't have actual solid info on its truth....

34 posted on 10/28/2012 9:13:40 PM PDT by cherry
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To: paul544

Florida had Jeb Bush in as gov when the hanging chad scandal took place....we didn’t know who was our president until December!


35 posted on 10/28/2012 9:19:08 PM PDT by cherry
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To: cherry

Yeah Manbearpig should have gone to jail for that shenanigan.


36 posted on 10/28/2012 9:30:27 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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To: txrangerette
mine was the mildest “sarcastic and nasty” I’ve seen here.

Just exactly what did you mean by that? < /s >

37 posted on 10/28/2012 9:38:13 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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To: JediJones

Thanks - learn something every day ..


38 posted on 10/28/2012 10:23:49 PM PDT by 11th_VA (Keep your laws OFF my Big Gulp !)
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To: Perkalong; P-Marlowe; TonyInOhio; Las Vegas Dave
Ohio (18)

and the polls do not look good there. I think Romney’s position on the auto industry will prove to be the deciding factor.

The auto assembly industry in Ohio has a bit less than 25,000 employees. GM & Chrysler, the recipients of government money and government bailouts, employ about half of those employees.

So, we're talking about 13,000 or so employees out of a state with 8.3 million registered voters.

Honda and Ford, also auto industry, were not aided by a government bailout and rewarded with government ownership. Ford is actually proud that they made it on their own, and Honda in Ohio is self-directed, meaning it is famous for being nonunion. I don't know how Honda workers feel about the government bailing out huge union pensions for rival companies. I'm guessing they're not impressed.

Put it perspective, only about 18% of Ohio's gross state product is generated by manufacturing as a whole, and the auto industry is just one piece of that industry.

As always, agriculture is probably still the largest industry in Ohio producing 93 billion in goods versus auto industry's 16 billion.

Most people are surprised by that, but Ohio's climate and geography make it ideal for most major cash crops from corn/wheat/beans all the way to tomatoes.

So, do GM and Chrysler trump the coal and power generation industries in Ohio? Between miners and employees at coal powered energy plants, there are approximately 8,000 workers. In short, there aren't as many.

One distinction, though, is that they generally are the major industries in the counties in which they operate. Their loss has a huge impact on an entire county/region whereas auto jobs lost are generally in metro areas where the impact gets spread around a bit more and absorbed a bit more easily.

This means that Obama is turning entire rural counties against him and pushing a historically conservative rural vote to its maximum. 70-80% pro-Romney votes in some counties are not hard to imagine, and while they are less in number, they tend to offset areas where the vote hovers in the 50-50 vicinity.

With Rasmussen saying Ohio is now tied, and Rasmussen being the most unbiased of pollsters, and with the dynamics in Ohio, and with the election being controlled by Republicans this year, I will predict a Romney win in Ohio.

Finally, the polls are tied in Ohio if one uses recent polls. If one relies on the realclear average, then he is adding in weeks old polls and averaging them. That gives a faulty impression that even the pollsters themselves all disagree with. Otherwise, they wouldn't conduct CURRENT polls to determine where people are at in the NOW.

39 posted on 10/29/2012 5:33:28 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Perkalong; P-Marlowe; TonyInOhio; Las Vegas Dave
CORRECTION

PERKALONG WROTE: Ohio (18) and the polls do not look good there. I think Romney’s position on the auto industry will prove to be the deciding factor.

XZINS REPLIED: The auto assembly industry in Ohio has a bit less than 25,000 employees. GM & Chrysler, the recipients of government money and government bailouts, employ about half of those employees.

So, we're talking about 13,000 or so employees out of a state with 8.3 million registered voters.

Honda and Ford, also auto industry, were not aided by a government bailout and rewarded with government ownership. Ford is actually proud that they made it on their own, and Honda in Ohio is self-directed, meaning it is famous for being nonunion. I don't know how Honda workers feel about the government bailing out huge union pensions for rival companies. I'm guessing they're not impressed.

Put it perspective, only about 18% of Ohio's gross state product is generated by manufacturing as a whole, and the auto industry is just one piece of that industry.

As always, agriculture is probably still the largest industry in Ohio producing 93 billion in goods versus auto industry's 16 billion.

Most people are surprised by that, but Ohio's climate and geography make it ideal for most major cash crops from corn/wheat/beans all the way to tomatoes.

So, do GM and Chrysler trump the coal and power generation industries in Ohio? Between miners and employees at coal powered energy plants, there are approximately 8,000 workers. In short, there aren't as many.

One distinction, though, is that they generally are the major industries in the counties in which they operate. Their loss has a huge impact on an entire county/region whereas auto jobs lost are generally in metro areas where the impact gets spread around a bit more and absorbed a bit more easily.

This means that Obama is turning entire rural counties against him and pushing a historically conservative rural vote to its maximum. 70-80% pro-Romney votes in some counties are not hard to imagine, and while they are less in number, they tend to offset areas where the vote hovers in the 50-50 vicinity.

With Rasmussen saying Ohio is now tied, and Rasmussen being the most unbiased of pollsters, and with the dynamics in Ohio, and with the election being controlled by Republicans this year, I will predict a Romney win in Ohio.

Finally, the polls are tied in Ohio if one uses recent polls. If one relies on the realclear average, then he is adding in weeks old polls and averaging them. That gives a faulty impression that even the pollsters themselves all disagree with. Otherwise, they wouldn't conduct CURRENT polls to determine where people are at in the NOW.

40 posted on 10/29/2012 5:36:22 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: SoftwareEngineer; AFPhys

ping to #40 regarding Ohio


41 posted on 10/29/2012 6:35:03 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: cherry

And how do you think it would have turned out if it wasn’t Jeb?


42 posted on 10/29/2012 6:47:27 AM PDT by paul544
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To: ADemocratNoMore; Akron Al; arbee4bush; agrace; ATOMIC_PUNK; Badeye; Bikers4Bush; BlindedByTruth; ...

Ohio Ping!


43 posted on 10/31/2012 4:29:13 PM PDT by Las Vegas Dave (".....All 57 states (or is it 58?) must stand together and defeat O'bozo!.....")
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To: SeekAndFind

hope springs eternal in the human breast.


44 posted on 10/31/2012 5:36:52 PM PDT by RC one
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