Skip to comments.Aide: Obama didnít deny requests for help in Benghazi #standdown
Posted on 10/28/2012 3:35:53 PM PDT by markomalley
That according to a National Security Council spokesman.
Rick Moran breaks down the past few days (via Doug Ross):
The CIA is denying. The Pentagon is denying. And now the White House is denying that anyone refused to send help to our embattled CIA and State Department personnel engaged in a seven hour running firefight with more than 150 jihadists.
It just doesnt get any lamer than this:
The White House on Saturday flatly denied that President Barack Obama withheld requests for help from the besieged American compound in Benghazi, Libya, as it came under on attack by suspected terrorists on September 11th.
Neither the president nor anyone in the White House denied any requests for assistance in Benghazi, National Security Council spokesman Tommy Vietor told Yahoo News by email.
Why was this so hard for President Obama to say on Friday when asked a direct question about assistance to Americans under fire?
President Barack Obama said repeatedly Friday that his administration would find out what happened and punish those responsible, but he twice ducked questions about whether U.S. officials denied requests for help.
As Bill Kristol points out, Obama doesnt have to find out what happened in the White House he was there and presumably was kept informed.
Retired Army Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer said his sources told him President Obama watched the attack from the Situation Room. It shouldnt exactly be a bombshell to discover a president had been monitoring an ongoing attack on an ambassador and his detail thats exactly what wed expect a president to do. However, the pickle for the administration is that the only way they can distance Obama from the who denied requests for help question is to allow everybody to believe that Obama wasnt doing what everybody would expect a president to be doing under those circumstances: Closely monitoring the situation.
Leon Panetta said help wasnt sent because they didnt have enough information about what was going on before the attack was over. There might be a bit of semantics playing out here. Assuming for a moment no US official literally said request denied, most people would still consider doing nothing to be tantamount to a denial of request.
If nobody either in or connected with the Obama administration specifically denied requests for military back-up or gave any stand down orders during the Benghazi attack as Fox News reported, why didnt the administration use the golden opportunity presented by the Sunday morning news shows to go out and rip Fox News apart at the seams much to the delight of disenchanted people who voted for Obama in 2008 who are desperately in need of motivation to get to the polls next Tuesday? Instead David Axelrod was worried about how Hurricane Sandy could harm Obamas re-election chances and Stephanie Cutter was saying the Des Moines Registers endorsement of Romney is not based in reality. The latter was during the Pot Meets Kettle segment of ABCs This Morning.
A couple of Sunday show clips from today
Sen. John McCain on CBS: Its either a massive cover-up or incompetence:
Democrat Sen. Udall, who sits on the Intelligence Committee, wont tell Chris Wallace if the drones above Benghazi that day were armed:
Gingrich: Obama canceling campaign trips due to hurricane but didnt after Benghazi?
and armed drones (likely armed) could have made a big difference if they had been allowed to fire on vehicles or enemy mortar teams
THAT’S why obama votes “present” from his bed!
Neither the president nor anyone in the White House denied any requests for assistance in Benghazi, By email no less.
If true then they probably did not approve any requests for assistance. The White House did nothing and everything was in limbo and 4 people died.
OK. Then who the Hell was in charge?
I know that who ever it was, was not military. Anyone could have asked for volunteers and every active military and former military would have been standing by within 10 minutes waiting for transport. That’s a fact Jack.
This reminds me of O.J. Simpson looking for the real murderer:
President Barack Obama said repeatedly Friday that his administration would find out what happened.
Is this a case of people with first names beginning with the letter “O” simply being Oblivious?
here is the question that people are not asking... Why did the 2 seals leave the CIA base and go to try to help the ambassador? Were they the only ones at the CIA base? Were others following the orders not to help?
In case you didn’t make it to the MEAT of the article:
... General Ham as head of Africom received the same e-mails the White House received requesting help/support as the attack was taking place. General Ham immediately had a rapid response unit ready and communicated to the Pentagon that he had a unit ready.
General Ham then received the order to stand down. His response was to screw it, he was going to help anyhow. Within 30 seconds to a minute after making the move to respond, his second in command apprehended General Ham and told him that he was now relieved of his command.
The story continues that now General Rodiguez would take General Ham’s place as the head of Africom.
A true statement. You can take it to the bank. Assistance did come from Tripoli.
But they are playing word games with us. Notice the missing "military" in front of the word "help". Military assistance was withheld. Only Obama could have done that.
I am now thinking that is exactly what happened.
Come on, Barack. Go to Cuba and request asylum. You know Fidel likes you. This President thing isn’t working out. Everyone, and I mean everyone, knows that this Benghazi mess is a million times worse than Iran Contra, DESERT ONE and Watergate all rolled into one. And when the story gets out about the money, then it’s game over and you’re off to the pokey. Nobody wants that. For goodness sakes, we all like your smile. Have AXELROD charter a private jet and head down to Havana. Drinking frosty drinks and smoking choom on the beach sounds a lot better than months of testimony and worry and pain. Yeah, it didn’t work out the way you planned, but that happens to everyone. They’re even booing you at the Madonna concerts for Pete’s sake. Go out like a pirate, not like some Pee Wee Herman. Head to Cuba.
I was just wondering if they can claim that no order to “stand down” was given and when in fact the order to “proceed” was NOT given. That would mean gridlock in the military hierarchy especially since they all rely on guidance from “above” so as to avoid making “bad” decisions that end up killing the careers of senior officers.
You can tell utterly ridiculous and bald faced lies when you KNOW that the press is going to back your rubbish. Only trouble is that the public is getting wise to the lies.
I was trying to phrase that exact question but you did it much better.
I am wondering as well.
So no one denied help so what help was given?
If, as the aide says, he didn’t deny the requests then the aide is admitting there were requests. Earlier, they denied there were any requests. So, which is it, huh? Either they lied before or they’re lying now. If they’re lying now then they’re admitting they failed to act. Either way, the buck stops in the oval office.
Per some reports, besides Woods and Doherty, 2 other Americans and some 60 Libyan security guards initially accompanied them.
Those other 2 were the ones who recovered the body of the Ambassador’s aide, Sean Smith, IIRC.
I understand that there were people evacuated from the embassy, or whatever it is called today. Some numbers I’ve heard are 20-30 were helped by the two SEALS who then went back to find/help Stevens.
If this is true, I wonder why we have heard nothing from any of them as to what was going on....you know, like a protest, or an ambush or whatever.
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Put they are not saying he made a request either........he must have been remembering his Senate days and voting present!!!!!!!
I bet you a dollar to a dog hockey that the lovely and charming Val Jarrett was calling the shots.
41 days. Obama has been stone walling for 41 days.
Two are denying, Obama is lying.
Not until the Dime Store Media says so, this is all so much inside baseball to the lemmings.
Oh gee, you had to go and discover that?/sarcasm.
Bet that idiot don't get sent out again to speak.
Got to TAG someone else for tomorrow to deny what this aide said.
Freeper Sleuths are just hard to beat.
Ummm, Mr. President, this took place over SEVEN WEEKS AGO. Exactly how long is it going to take you to find out? You were supposedly there in the situation room as it was unfolding. Were you unaware of what was happening at that time? And if so, how can you credibly say that you are qualified for the office that you hold?
Whatever happened or didn't happen begins and ends w/ POTUS.
End of story.
9 more days and he’s free......
Both Benghazi and WTC attacks occurred on 9/11.
By 10/7, Bush had the military invading Afghanistan to track and kill everyone involved. He knocked over two whole countries in retaliation for the 9/11 events.
It’s 10/28, and the Obama is pointing fingers.
But, from the GLD story, (if true) armed aerial assets were overhead with a designated target (the mortar) -- and "Weapons Free" was never issued.
Sounds like denial by omission", to me...
Dude couldn’t be bothered with no Benghazi stuff, yo, it was VEGAS TIME!
Why is that no one asks the next question-well, who did?
The Dems have fallen embarrassingly far from where they stood in Truman's day.
Charlene Lamb refused (denied or ignored) to extend the security Strike Force (despite dispatches about growing local threats).
......The colonel and Mr. Nordstrom were fighting a long-distance battle of emails and phone calls with the State Department to maintain a large security presence.
But Charlene Lamb, who was in charge of international programs for the State Departments Bureau of Diplomatic Security, rejected their requests. State wanted to create a picture of normal operations in Libya......
Read more: Lack of strike force impeded Benghazi response - Washington Times http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/oct/28/lack-of-strike-force-impeded-benghazi-response/#ixzz2AfsQ2tDs
“So Mr. President, do we have a go?”
BO: “So anyone else? Anyone else with any questions?”
“Mr. President, do we have a go?”
BO: “Is anyone else hot in here? How about some ice tea?”