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Posted on 10/28/2012 10:04:32 PM PDT by Fractal Trader
Moved from east to west bringing a record-setting low pressure, massive storm surge right into New York Harbor, and a good 24-36 hours of tropical storm conditions.
This ain’t gonna bail The Disaster out.
When it gets 24-7 coverage to the exclusion of other big stories, it IS an overhype.
I never said it wasn’t a big and important storm.
But $15-20 Billion is chump change compared to the damage that the Democrats are doing. :p
Why bring up NYC? I wouldn’t care if it became the new Atlantis. I am not having sympathy, I know that Bloomberg will save NYC by banning salt water or something anyway. lol
Some of the ones from last night make these look like child’s play.
I may not be a meteorologist, but have been paying attention to weather and patterns ffecting where I live for 30 years and really concentrating on it for the past 15 or so.
No, the reason why Hurricane Sandy won’t land in the US is that Obama threatened to shoot it down if it came in illegally.
Nah. Let’s try again. Obama promised America that he would pursue the truth as to who was behind the hurricane attack on the US and that he would bring them to justice, along with that film maker.
Now that’s more like it.
Sandy...latest drop near center had 950MB with 11 kts of wind...so probably 949 or 948 MB now. Movement b/w last 2 VDM's is 010 degrees. So...its now moving north. Winds at FL were 102kts in the SW quad.
Saw plenty of election coverage today.....
75 mph winds, not so much... Surge - N.O. experienced a 30' surge during Katrina. Almost three times your highest prediction of 11' at high tide.
Survivor Camille here too...as a 12 year old...at Pass Road in Long Beach...near Rich Ave...190 MPH sustained....the train tracks hump saved a lot of folks in that area..anyone beach side of tracks was in trouble...floating homes and what not
28 foot sustained surge with velocity over a flat coastal sound plain...water rolled up from the Mississippi Sound which averages 12 foot depth
the sound and the fury...you never forget the sound
Rich ave has been dirt since Katrina..old bungalows all gone..a few of the live oaks left
I hope am I not wrong but this is a media event compared to big killer storms
24 hour weather and news pumps up everything..not just hurricanes
a storm like Camille or Katrina or Andrew is a whole nother matter
something like that hit Long Island coast and it would be the catostrophe they all imagine but given the latitudes that is just never likely....rare
something like 3 truly big storms since early 1800s to make landfall above the Carolinas
not to say a lot of rain can’t make problems
or Sheepshead bay or the Rockaways might not get flooded or inland folks get flooded and lose power...yes
but a strong storm with biblical implications it is not
yet every single time anything from 50 miles an hour up hits at 75 degrees west the media in the path makes it all about them
the Mississippi Gulf Coast is still a wasteland mostly 7 years later...that is a bigger story...but never was
but if the NE megapolis ever does have another true serious storm...not so late season
given how much their demographics are questionable...I would get my family outta there...and it’s so damned crowded...it gives a scenario right out of Matt’s books
down here we know how to deal with threats...up there folks rely on the govt
oops.........
Thanks.
It’s not hyperbole. Look at the damn storm tracks. A storm has never moved like this before, and it’s the perfect location to just pile water into NYC.
Well i was more than re-assured that Obama is at the WH monitoring this live.
It might be more than Benghazi. For some reason they want the most powerful part of our nation evacuated. Finance, politics, and commerc are essentially going to be shut down for all next few days, even if zippo storm shows up....
Or, yes, we got a serios storm brewing. And, it just a coincidence”.....
lol
with drones?
The Euro model has been correct since 8 days ago. Our weather service has fallen down and the warnings really were too late. I admit last weekend I shrugged, but by Tuesday it had my attention.
Bambers has no bullets in his gun and Hillary doesn’t know what a gub is.
However, I have not seen or studied a modern storm like this....and I've been doing this 25 years. The size is record in the Atlantic. The storm will most likely set pressure records (and if it doesn't...it will be within a couple of MBs)...it will also set surge records or be VERY close to it.
So if that doesn't make it rare...I don't know what does. NOW...add to that the fact it will hit the Jersey coast moving W-WNW. Add ALL of that up...and it makes it a storm that is rare...maybe once in every 500 years will you see all of that come together.
One suspects that the WH is directing the (alleged) news media to use the storm to (as you aptly say) drown out the Benghazi-gate uber scandel.
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True. I have been following the drought monitor and was surprised with the rainfall issues.
Streets were flooding at high tide THIS MORNING on Chincoteague Island, VA and Ocean City, MD because of the surge and the impending full moon of Monday night........won’t even bother getting into what Virginia Beach and areas around it look like right now.
The pictures I saw from high tide on Chincoteague tonight told me all I need to know - and I’m only 9 miles west of there. I’m also only 9 east of the Chesapeake Bay and those surges are going to get worse after the seaside gets better.
Have you no empathy, thsir??
Dun’t you know that hyperbole for the greater good is warranted in such a sitsuashion??
For the sake of all that is holy, PEOPLE ARE GETTING WET!! This is the worst cat-apostrophe in the whole history of the WORLD!!
We need Barack Obama, mmm mmm mmm, to calm the waters as promised! Where is Obama??
True that, Betsy and Andrew, you never forget the roar, howl of the wind, have never heard a similar sound.
We were told something similar not long after the Japanese Tsunami by so called "nuclear scientists" who told us to go to bed and get under the covers but don't expect Godzilla to be coming anytime soon. "the microwave in my kitchen makes more radiation than is coming out of Fukushima." LOL LOL
I live in the area, I know how tropical storms and hurricanes can be unpredictable. While I think those people in the targeted area should indeed prepare as they are I'm still not believing their predictions 100%.
And since I live on the coast north of the target, I don't think it's a bad thing for me to prepare for the worst.
I've seen the target move north before.
Take off the tin foil hat before you start buying into the Global Warming stuff as well.
right, blame the moon. Somehow when a bigger part of the moon is reflecting the sun the moons gravity gets stronger or something??
I cannot believe your posts. You aren’t going to be hit by this thing but some of our FRiends and family are!
If you can’t have any empathy for what people will be going through then maybe you should get off the thread!
Obviously none of your family is in danger. If they were you might care a tiny bit.
Another oddity is that it’s going to be over 60 degrees tomorrow and most of the week at Timberline on Mt. Hood, at 6,000 ft. Should be a bunch chillier there, by now. In ten days it should be down to around 45 but ski season other than the permanent snow field is going to have to wait a while longer.
I've had my eye on Sandy before it even entered the Caribbean just as I do all storms west of Africa between June and December (Hurricane Season).
It's not my job to "blow off" everybody on FR that believe in conspiracy theories, quote Alex Jones or watches Glenn Beck.
NOLA did not experience a 30' storm surge. The max surge was 27' on the MS coast. Max surge in and around NOLA was 12-16'. Surge was 12' at Lakefront.
But...its apples and oranges. You can't compare surges from one place to another as if they are all the same. A 14' surge over Miami would do MASSIVE amounts more damage than say a 30' surge along the MS/AL coasts...or in Chambers County TX.
A 12' surge at Kings Pt and 11' at Battery Park will cause a LOT of damage...much more than 12' in MS.
You can’t possibly be serious ........
Well the 2am report has it leaving its NE path and turning North, so its doing everything they said it would at this point.
No one's saying that there isn't any storm... some are just suggesting that it might not be the biggest meanest storm in the history of mankind.
The positions for 3am and 6am GMT on the map are both Longitude -70.50 so the storm is moving due North.
The Euro has been the BOMB for this storm. Even when the NHC was worshiping the GFS I felt the EURO had it right. No doubt the Euro won this round.
He missed the day sixth grade went to the planetarium and saw the moon and sun on nearly opposite sides of the earth. Then missed science class in the 8th when they learned the word “syzygy”.
It's looking more to me like the eye may just hit around NY city, but that's just a wild guess at this point.

Three powerful jet streams colliding at the same time. This would have been a powerful Nor'easter without the hurricane; you throw in the hurricane and its low pressure with these ingredients, and for one of the few times in my life I will be saying tomorrow: OMG!
I agree with you, the EURO has been the best on this.....and I’m not a meteorologist, just a bit of a weather geek.
Thanks for your voice of sanity on this thread.
“the 2am report”
What website are you using to get the position please?
Get a hatchet and punch a hole through the roof. Make a quick stop at Hardees and get a bunch of biscuits. Get yourself back toot sweet and make sure the news is on so you know when to get out of the smartly prepared hole in the roof. Don’t forget the biscuits.
Sorry .. watching The Weather Channel.
After living in Florida for 13 years and having been through several hurricanes, I’ve gotten used to tracking these things even though I’m in Southern California now.
The NE is really going to catch a lot of flooding that will cost taxpayers an awful lot of money to clean up.
Actually there have been some saying there is no storm and the "storm" has been made up by the Obama controlled government agency NOAA who have been ordered to make a normal rain event look like Armageddon.........
It may not be the biggest or meanest in history - but it is one weird system. Hurricane/tropical storms morphing into a nor'easter is not exactly something seen very often.
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