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Hurricane Sandy Will Not Land in the US (10-23-12)
WeatherAction.Com ^ | 23 October 2012 | Piers Corbyn

Posted on 10/28/2012 10:04:32 PM PDT by Fractal Trader

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To: GeronL

Moved from east to west bringing a record-setting low pressure, massive storm surge right into New York Harbor, and a good 24-36 hours of tropical storm conditions.


51 posted on 10/28/2012 10:39:43 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

This ain’t gonna bail The Disaster out.


52 posted on 10/28/2012 10:41:00 PM PDT by arrogantsob (The Disaster MUST Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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To: NELSON111

When it gets 24-7 coverage to the exclusion of other big stories, it IS an overhype.

I never said it wasn’t a big and important storm.

But $15-20 Billion is chump change compared to the damage that the Democrats are doing. :p

Why bring up NYC? I wouldn’t care if it became the new Atlantis. I am not having sympathy, I know that Bloomberg will save NYC by banning salt water or something anyway. lol


53 posted on 10/28/2012 10:41:43 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: steve86

Some of the ones from last night make these look like child’s play.

I may not be a meteorologist, but have been paying attention to weather and patterns ffecting where I live for 30 years and really concentrating on it for the past 15 or so.


54 posted on 10/28/2012 10:42:04 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: rwfromkansas
A storm has NEVER done this. Ever.

Interesting statement. I've heard a lot of exclamations concerning this storm comparable to yours. Don't take this personally, but that is an absurd statement.

While I'm not downplaying the severity of this storm, the hyperbole I've witnessed today is "unprecedented" and "unexpected".
55 posted on 10/28/2012 10:42:20 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Fractal Trader

No, the reason why Hurricane Sandy won’t land in the US is that Obama threatened to shoot it down if it came in illegally.

Nah. Let’s try again. Obama promised America that he would pursue the truth as to who was behind the hurricane attack on the US and that he would bring them to justice, along with that film maker.

Now that’s more like it.


56 posted on 10/28/2012 10:42:34 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: PA Engineer
Yep...that's a nice Gulf of Alaska low.

Sandy...latest drop near center had 950MB with 11 kts of wind...so probably 949 or 948 MB now. Movement b/w last 2 VDM's is 010 degrees. So...its now moving north. Winds at FL were 102kts in the SW quad.

57 posted on 10/28/2012 10:42:36 PM PDT by NELSON111
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To: GeronL

Saw plenty of election coverage today.....


58 posted on 10/28/2012 10:42:43 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: NELSON111
One thing about this storm that impresses me are the predictions of hurricane force winds up to 175 miles from the center. That's a little on the unusual side, if correct. Will mean a lot of cumulative damage for sure.

75 mph winds, not so much... Surge - N.O. experienced a 30' surge during Katrina. Almost three times your highest prediction of 11' at high tide.

59 posted on 10/28/2012 10:42:54 PM PDT by Errant
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To: Shadowstrike; mrsmel; Travis McGee

Survivor Camille here too...as a 12 year old...at Pass Road in Long Beach...near Rich Ave...190 MPH sustained....the train tracks hump saved a lot of folks in that area..anyone beach side of tracks was in trouble...floating homes and what not

28 foot sustained surge with velocity over a flat coastal sound plain...water rolled up from the Mississippi Sound which averages 12 foot depth

the sound and the fury...you never forget the sound

Rich ave has been dirt since Katrina..old bungalows all gone..a few of the live oaks left

I hope am I not wrong but this is a media event compared to big killer storms

24 hour weather and news pumps up everything..not just hurricanes

a storm like Camille or Katrina or Andrew is a whole nother matter

something like that hit Long Island coast and it would be the catostrophe they all imagine but given the latitudes that is just never likely....rare

something like 3 truly big storms since early 1800s to make landfall above the Carolinas

not to say a lot of rain can’t make problems

or Sheepshead bay or the Rockaways might not get flooded or inland folks get flooded and lose power...yes

but a strong storm with biblical implications it is not

yet every single time anything from 50 miles an hour up hits at 75 degrees west the media in the path makes it all about them

the Mississippi Gulf Coast is still a wasteland mostly 7 years later...that is a bigger story...but never was

but if the NE megapolis ever does have another true serious storm...not so late season

given how much their demographics are questionable...I would get my family outta there...and it’s so damned crowded...it gives a scenario right out of Matt’s books

down here we know how to deal with threats...up there folks rely on the govt


60 posted on 10/28/2012 10:43:21 PM PDT by wardaddy (my wife prays in the tanning bed....guess what region i live in...ya'll?)
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To: deks
See my post 16. Click on satellite with animation. Center it and zoom as necessary.
61 posted on 10/28/2012 10:43:28 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: mylife

oops.........

Thanks.


62 posted on 10/28/2012 10:43:58 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: PA Engineer
That's just the latest installment of this incredible freight train of moisture we've been getting for the last couple of weeks east of the Cascades in Washington and Oregon. West of the mountains it's pretty normal but not over here. The precipitation storm totals are nothing like Sandy but an inch or two this time of year is unusual for the arid Columbia Basin. Prior to this hadn't really rained for many, many months.
63 posted on 10/28/2012 10:44:10 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
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To: Pox

It’s not hyperbole. Look at the damn storm tracks. A storm has never moved like this before, and it’s the perfect location to just pile water into NYC.


64 posted on 10/28/2012 10:44:22 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: Fractal Trader

Well i was more than re-assured that Obama is at the WH monitoring this live.


65 posted on 10/28/2012 10:45:32 PM PDT by eak3
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To: arrogantsob

It might be more than Benghazi. For some reason they want the most powerful part of our nation evacuated. Finance, politics, and commerc are essentially going to be shut down for all next few days, even if zippo storm shows up....

Or, yes, we got a serios storm brewing. And, it just a coincidence”.....


66 posted on 10/28/2012 10:45:46 PM PDT by Professional
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To: eak3

lol

with drones?


67 posted on 10/28/2012 10:47:36 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: NELSON111

The Euro model has been correct since 8 days ago. Our weather service has fallen down and the warnings really were too late. I admit last weekend I shrugged, but by Tuesday it had my attention.


68 posted on 10/28/2012 10:47:36 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Bambers has no bullets in his gun and Hillary doesn’t know what a gub is.


69 posted on 10/28/2012 10:47:41 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: Pox
I would agree with your statement to an extent. We can't say a storm has never done this. I think the Colonial Hurricane back in 1635 was worse.

However, I have not seen or studied a modern storm like this....and I've been doing this 25 years. The size is record in the Atlantic. The storm will most likely set pressure records (and if it doesn't...it will be within a couple of MBs)...it will also set surge records or be VERY close to it.

So if that doesn't make it rare...I don't know what does. NOW...add to that the fact it will hit the Jersey coast moving W-WNW. Add ALL of that up...and it makes it a storm that is rare...maybe once in every 500 years will you see all of that come together.

70 posted on 10/28/2012 10:48:19 PM PDT by NELSON111
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To: Professional
This storm, real or not is being used to cover over Benghazi. The media is using it to drown out the real story.

One suspects that the WH is directing the (alleged) news media to use the storm to (as you aptly say) drown out the Benghazi-gate uber scandel.

.

71 posted on 10/28/2012 10:49:02 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: steve86

True. I have been following the drought monitor and was surprised with the rainfall issues.


72 posted on 10/28/2012 10:49:35 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: xkaydet65; GeronL

Streets were flooding at high tide THIS MORNING on Chincoteague Island, VA and Ocean City, MD because of the surge and the impending full moon of Monday night........won’t even bother getting into what Virginia Beach and areas around it look like right now.

The pictures I saw from high tide on Chincoteague tonight told me all I need to know - and I’m only 9 miles west of there. I’m also only 9 east of the Chesapeake Bay and those surges are going to get worse after the seaside gets better.


73 posted on 10/28/2012 10:51:55 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: rwfromkansas
Never is an absolute term. Consider the amount of time we have had satellites and also consider that we have records that go back what, a few hundred years? Never, ever?
74 posted on 10/28/2012 10:52:18 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Pox

Have you no empathy, thsir??

Dun’t you know that hyperbole for the greater good is warranted in such a sitsuashion??

For the sake of all that is holy, PEOPLE ARE GETTING WET!! This is the worst cat-apostrophe in the whole history of the WORLD!!

We need Barack Obama, mmm mmm mmm, to calm the waters as promised! Where is Obama??


75 posted on 10/28/2012 10:52:45 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: wardaddy
the sound and the fury...you never forget the sound

True that, Betsy and Andrew, you never forget the roar, howl of the wind, have never heard a similar sound.

76 posted on 10/28/2012 10:53:00 PM PDT by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: NELSON111
It's a track made by someone who is obviously not a meteorologist.

We were told something similar not long after the Japanese Tsunami by so called "nuclear scientists" who told us to go to bed and get under the covers but don't expect Godzilla to be coming anytime soon. "the microwave in my kitchen makes more radiation than is coming out of Fukushima." LOL LOL

I live in the area, I know how tropical storms and hurricanes can be unpredictable. While I think those people in the targeted area should indeed prepare as they are I'm still not believing their predictions 100%.

And since I live on the coast north of the target, I don't think it's a bad thing for me to prepare for the worst.

I've seen the target move north before.

Take off the tin foil hat before you start buying into the Global Warming stuff as well.

77 posted on 10/28/2012 10:53:58 PM PDT by tsowellfan (KEEP WORKING like we are 10 POINTS DOWN!!!!)
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To: Gabz

right, blame the moon. Somehow when a bigger part of the moon is reflecting the sun the moons gravity gets stronger or something??


78 posted on 10/28/2012 10:54:50 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Seaplaner
One suspects that the WH is directing the (alleged) news media to use the storm to (as you aptly say) drown out the Benghazi-gate uber scandel.

Something to think about. The area under impact is very blue. What if the power goes out? What if there is no TV? Life gets rough? People are going to want to strike out if they have the energy to get to the polls. Power will be out for many and for an extended period.

The government can't fix this. The government can't save the people in the urban centers. This is what the rest of the country is going to see. Game it.
79 posted on 10/28/2012 10:54:57 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: GeronL

I cannot believe your posts. You aren’t going to be hit by this thing but some of our FRiends and family are!

If you can’t have any empathy for what people will be going through then maybe you should get off the thread!

Obviously none of your family is in danger. If they were you might care a tiny bit.


80 posted on 10/28/2012 10:55:33 PM PDT by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: PA Engineer

Another oddity is that it’s going to be over 60 degrees tomorrow and most of the week at Timberline on Mt. Hood, at 6,000 ft. Should be a bunch chillier there, by now. In ten days it should be down to around 45 but ski season other than the permanent snow field is going to have to wait a while longer.


81 posted on 10/28/2012 10:57:31 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
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To: Gabz
you didn’t exactly blow off the poster last night claiming it was being made up by an Obama government agency.

I've had my eye on Sandy before it even entered the Caribbean just as I do all storms west of Africa between June and December (Hurricane Season).

It's not my job to "blow off" everybody on FR that believe in conspiracy theories, quote Alex Jones or watches Glenn Beck.

82 posted on 10/28/2012 10:57:31 PM PDT by tsowellfan (KEEP WORKING like we are 10 POINTS DOWN!!!!)
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To: Errant
>>>75 mph winds, not so much... Surge - N.O. experienced a 30' surge during Katrina. Almost three times your highest prediction of 11' at high tide.

NOLA did not experience a 30' storm surge. The max surge was 27' on the MS coast. Max surge in and around NOLA was 12-16'. Surge was 12' at Lakefront.

But...its apples and oranges. You can't compare surges from one place to another as if they are all the same. A 14' surge over Miami would do MASSIVE amounts more damage than say a 30' surge along the MS/AL coasts...or in Chambers County TX.

A 12' surge at Kings Pt and 11' at Battery Park will cause a LOT of damage...much more than 12' in MS.

83 posted on 10/28/2012 10:57:31 PM PDT by NELSON111
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To: GeronL

You can’t possibly be serious ........


84 posted on 10/28/2012 10:57:50 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Fractal Trader

Well the 2am report has it leaving its NE path and turning North, so its doing everything they said it would at this point.


85 posted on 10/28/2012 10:58:54 PM PDT by eak3
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To: Gabz
The flood waters and damage already documented have already proven this storm is not the figment of anyone’s imagination or some government conspiracy.

No one's saying that there isn't any storm... some are just suggesting that it might not be the biggest meanest storm in the history of mankind.

86 posted on 10/28/2012 10:59:09 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: PA Engineer

The positions for 3am and 6am GMT on the map are both Longitude -70.50 so the storm is moving due North.


87 posted on 10/28/2012 10:59:48 PM PDT by deks ("...the battle of our time is the battle of liberty against the overreach of the federal government")
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88 posted on 10/28/2012 10:59:59 PM PDT by tsowellfan (KEEP WORKING like we are 10 POINTS DOWN!!!!)
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To: PA Engineer

The Euro has been the BOMB for this storm. Even when the NHC was worshiping the GFS I felt the EURO had it right. No doubt the Euro won this round.


89 posted on 10/28/2012 11:00:14 PM PDT by NELSON111
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To: Gabz

He missed the day sixth grade went to the planetarium and saw the moon and sun on nearly opposite sides of the earth. Then missed science class in the 8th when they learned the word “syzygy”.


90 posted on 10/28/2012 11:01:53 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
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To: NELSON111
I agree, it is a rare occurrence, and although the eye is a little bit east of the bulk of the model tracks, it's still going to send some serious surge waters into the NJ, NY area.

It's looking more to me like the eye may just hit around NY city, but that's just a wild guess at this point.

91 posted on 10/28/2012 11:02:33 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: PA Engineer

Three powerful jet streams colliding at the same time. This would have been a powerful Nor'easter without the hurricane; you throw in the hurricane and its low pressure with these ingredients, and for one of the few times in my life I will be saying tomorrow: OMG!

92 posted on 10/28/2012 11:02:43 PM PDT by hawkeye101 (Ron Paul attacked every Republican in the 2012 race EXCEPT for Mitt Romney.)
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To: NELSON111

I agree with you, the EURO has been the best on this.....and I’m not a meteorologist, just a bit of a weather geek.

Thanks for your voice of sanity on this thread.


93 posted on 10/28/2012 11:02:52 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: eak3

“the 2am report”

What website are you using to get the position please?


94 posted on 10/28/2012 11:03:04 PM PDT by deks ("...the battle of our time is the battle of liberty against the overreach of the federal government")
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To: Gabz

Get a hatchet and punch a hole through the roof. Make a quick stop at Hardees and get a bunch of biscuits. Get yourself back toot sweet and make sure the news is on so you know when to get out of the smartly prepared hole in the roof. Don’t forget the biscuits.


95 posted on 10/28/2012 11:03:32 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: steve86
Another oddity is that it’s going to be over 60 degrees tomorrow and most of the week at Timberline on Mt. Hood, at 6,000 ft. Should be a bunch chillier there, by now. In ten days it should be down to around 45 but ski season other than the permanent snow field is going to have to wait a while longer.

I am watching the anomalies. Very unsettled for this time of year.

Something else that is troubling me. I know I don't want to be in West Virginia this week. Two plus feet of wet snow. That is going to be another tragedy.
96 posted on 10/28/2012 11:04:15 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: deks

Sorry .. watching The Weather Channel.


97 posted on 10/28/2012 11:05:11 PM PDT by eak3
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To: GeronL

After living in Florida for 13 years and having been through several hurricanes, I’ve gotten used to tracking these things even though I’m in Southern California now.

The NE is really going to catch a lot of flooding that will cost taxpayers an awful lot of money to clean up.


98 posted on 10/28/2012 11:06:54 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: hawkeye101
Three powerful jet streams colliding at the same time. This would have been a powerful Nor'easter without the hurricane; you throw in the hurricane and its low pressure with these ingredients, and for one of the few times in my life I will be saying tomorrow: OMG!

I like it. It hit me on Tuesday that something was really wrong. Started cycling fuel and contacting loved ones. Just hope I can get across the Laurel Ridge if I have to pick up my daughter from Happy Valley.
99 posted on 10/28/2012 11:08:13 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: Cementjungle
No one's saying that there isn't any storm... some are just suggesting that it might not be the biggest meanest storm in the history of mankind.

Actually there have been some saying there is no storm and the "storm" has been made up by the Obama controlled government agency NOAA who have been ordered to make a normal rain event look like Armageddon.........

It may not be the biggest or meanest in history - but it is one weird system. Hurricane/tropical storms morphing into a nor'easter is not exactly something seen very often.

100 posted on 10/28/2012 11:08:21 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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