Brian Lilley: The MSM is lying about the muslim riots
Interviews on the streets of Cairo. 'Video' had nothing to do with protests and attack.
Skip to comments.Lack of Strike Force Impeded Benghazi Response
Posted on 10/29/2012 12:50:08 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
As U.S. Africa Command waited for any order to rescue Americans on Sept. 11 at the besieged consulate and CIA annex in Benghazi, Libya, it was missing a key unit that the Pentagon gives every regional four-star commander an emergency strike force.
The new commands lack of such a unit is another piece in the unfolding Benghazi timeline that shows an overriding theme: As radical Islamic extremism swelled in the chaotic coastal city, U.S. security assets in Libya diminished.
From the State Departments denial of diplomats requests for more security in Libya to Obama administration officials repeatedly saying the military-style attack on the consulate resulted from spontaneous protests, the events before, during and after the Benghazi assault reflect the political, diplomatic and military confusion that is post-Gadhafi Libya.
Each U.S. geographic combatant command, whether it be in the Middle East, the Pacific or, in this case, Africa, is entitled to a special operations rapid-response team a group of Green Berets to perform instant combat in situations like the Islamist militants attack on the U.S. Consulate.
But on that day, AfriCom, the Pentagons newest geographic combatant command, which is still in the building phase, lacked what is called the commander in-extremis force, said a senior special operations official.
All geographic combatant commands have one allocated to them, except AfriCom, the senior official said. AfriComs is in the process of being established.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...
On Fox News, Bret Baier's documentary on the Benghazi attack (before, during and after) interviews Mr. Nordstrom about the pull back of his security forces, etc. Some of his remarks are also expressed below.
"...No longer in Libya at the time of the attack, Mr. Nordstrom and Col. Wood later tried to assess the bureaucratic battle they fought to retain more security assets in Benghazi.
We were fighting a losing battle, Col. Wood said. We couldnt even keep what we had. We were not even allowed to keep what we had.
"Mr. Nordstrom recalled a phone call with a regional director asking for 12 additional agents.
His response to that was, Youre asking for the sun, moon and the stars, the security officer said. And my response to him, You know what makes [this] the most frustrating about this assignment? Its not the hardships. Its not the gunfire. Its not the threats. Its dealing and fighting against the people, programs and personnel who are supposed to be supporting me.
And I ended it by saying, For me, the Taliban is on the inside of the building, Mr. Nordstrom said." - Source
>> On Fox News, Bret Baier’s documentary on the Benghazi attack
Very good report. Must see.
Video: Pat Caddell lets loose!
No carrier group in the Mediterranean either. It’s starting to look like 0coward and Hillbilly pulled every man, gun and bullet they could and got them as far away from Stevens as possible.
Charlene Lamb [in charge of international programs for the State Department’s Bureau of Diplomatic Security] refused (”denied or ignored”) to extend the security Strike Force.
I know. Both the DoD SST and the State Dept. MSD. (I think that’s the right acronym.)
But the most disgusting thing that Leftist jerk did was try to get Charles Woods to reverse himself and take back his FACTUAL accusation of Obama being a murderer—the dirty bastard!
Charley didn't take the bait and instead facing the camera said TO THE PRESIDENT that the Benghazi 4 died as heroes and it is better to die a hero than to live as a COWARD!!!
Geraldo, the dirty bastard, kissed Woods on the cheek as the show ended. I have been demanding Fox News fire the disrespectful son of a bitch since!
Do we have enough forces left in the Mediterranean area to whip a dead cat?
That is an excellent and accurate description of Whorealdo’s assclownery.
Brian Lilley: The MSM is lying about the muslim riots
Interviews on the streets of Cairo. 'Video' had nothing to do with protests and attack.
Carneys comments lie outside the range of plausible spin, even by Obama administration standards, and if his bosses believe themas we fear they doare simply delusional. But they are not without consequence. Nor are Gatess and Dempseys phone calls. They all send the message to Americas enemies that if you kill our diplomats and lay siege to the our embassies, the first move the American government will make is to denounce . . . Americans. Our leaders apparently believe that the way to protect Americans from extremists and terrorists abroad is to tell other Americans to shut up.
Whats next? Where does it go from here?................."
Sounds implausible or is US military strength so stretched or eroded that rapid response teams are micro managed from Washington? State department none-the-less?
Are they not rotating secondary and tertiary combat experienced or capable special forces out of the deep mid-east?
Nothing was sitting in Navel Station Rota Spain?
But really.....the MSM was just too busy covering the "YouTube Video guy and now Paul Ryan's emails, to dig into the murder of Americans in Libya.
Oct. 27, 2012: Emails shed light on Ryan, Walker relationship "...The emails reviewed by the AP offered an unusual, behind-the-scenes glimpse of the interpersonal relationship between Ryan and Walker. Although as a congressman Ryan's emails are exempt from disclosure under the U.S. Freedom of Information Act, messages sent by Ryan or his aides to Walker or the governor's staff are subject to Wisconsin's open records law. The week after Ryan was tapped as Romney's vice presidential candidate, the AP requested all such emails since Walker was elected in November 2010. It received 1,037 pages of them late Friday...."
I believe this was to be the October surprise, a sting operation. Stevens was going to be kidnapped and Obumbler was going to show his chops by negotiating a solution. That explains why there were no assets to respond and when they were requested the high command was silent. They were letting the scheme play out. The administration has been covering it up ever since.
The filthy bastard was trying to score points with Obama and that closing kiss on the cheek was the final twist of the knife he had in the poor man's back!
If Fox News doesn't remove the treasonous Leftist (I know, redundant) ass after THIS outrage...well I don't know.
General Petraeus MUST know the whole truth - would be great if he "dropped a bomb on Zero" - the MSM would have to cover it, even though you know they don't want to.
That's the real question in the article. You'd think that even if the State Department was negligent in fortifying and guarding the consulate, the CIA would have a rapid response drill worked out with regional U.S. forces to protect their annex. I read that among other things the annex was a listening post. I imagine there is sophisticated electronics in these sites along with records and logs, access codes, and who knows what else.
I sense from the article that Benghazi, in the greater scheme of U.S. diplomatic missions, was a backwater post that was expendable. The only positive note in this debacle is the exposure of the Chinese fire drill Obama calls a foreign policy.
they did not protest the video until Hillary and Obama went on the news about it and calling attention to the video..I believe they helped organize the demonstrations that followed..to make it an issue. then we had days of riots .
The Red Army, halted at the gates of the Polish Capital for “logistical concerns” did eventually go to the rescue of the dead.
This is a must-read post. Excellent description of how Dept State stripped its people and property of protection despite months and months of reports about deteriorating conditions.
Hillary, your goose is cooked.
Obama has to win or they are finished cuz only he can save them and destroy their competition.
A decade ago I called them Media Martyrs—willing to sacrifice journalism for the socialist cause.
From your Bing West thread.....
“the general in charge of the Africa region has allegedly said he received no directive from Washington to dispatch military aid. Members of the mutual protective society of generals are offering the bizarre defense that our Africa Command could do nothing because it has no military assets; its some sort of ghost command. Even if that is true, the most powerful nation in the world has sufficient forces and flexibility to send fighter aircraft over a consulate in flames, or to land some troops at the secure airport east of Benghazi. After all, our embassy in Tripoli, 400 miles away, sent an aircraft with six Americans to fight in Benghazi. But our base in Sigonella, 480 miles away, sent no help.”
What the hell is the 'the mutual protective society of generals'? Never heard of it googled it, nothing.
Reference our discussion yesterday, this is the piece to which I referred
It appears we are the dead cat.
I watched that on Geraldo. I got the impression from Ret General Keane that nothing was done because they had nothing in range to get there quick enough.
But what was interesting, he only said a drone sees a narrow area and that this compound was considered in a residential area and they could not tell the militia from the bad guys.
In otherwards, they didn’t do it because of the negative publicity if Libyans claimed they killed “innocents”.
So, it was safer to let the Americans die because that is easier to deal with than dead Libyans.
It is also damn sad that there was supposedly no quick strike force around.
All in all, it was shameful from the moment they pulled the good security team out of Libya weeks before all the way to the end.
Which always brings me back to the hostage idea. Something just isn’t kosher about this whole episode.
Obama's leadership is not about trying to help American soldiers under attack from al Qaeda,
even while he watches for hours.
This is the lesson of Benghazi. This is what needs to be on flying banners at football games this weekend.
You’re kidding, right?
I hated that the idiot had them out in the cold. They all had short sleeves, just in from Hawaii, and idiot horaldo has a coat on. Why not find coats for them or move the interview inside?
One does not paint a target comprised of enemy implacemnts and do so with a cumbersome and hard to conceal laser targeting device... unless there are assets directly overhead that are ready to lock in onto the laser and deliver assets on top of those points. This story is just a cover to make the sheeple forget about the targets being painted with targeting lasers. WAKE UP AMERICA!
Not only the Tally-ban, but the Moose-limb Bros as well, whom this Islamic Jihadist-appeasing-defending and supporting Admin, consider to be some sort of benign "fraternal" organizations, such is their willful ignorance and stoooopidity.
From the Chief Clueless Moonbat and Dir of Natl Intel, James "CRAPPER!" which speaks volumes:
In February, 2011, when mass demonstrations were bringing down Mubarak's presidency in Egypt, Clapper told a House Intelligence Committee hearing that:
Small wonder this corrupt, Regime was unwilling to admit that they had supported elements of AQ in their quest to see the Arab Spring succeed and their narrative that with the elimination of OBL, the AQ worldwide was "on its heals"
PS: WHAT HAPPENED to the Consulate Staff (reported to be between 20-30 personnel) that was rescued and where are they now?
They are ALL witnesses yet no one seems to know anything re: there whereabouts and that not one has been found or questioned?
Are the being held under quarantine, incommunicado, somewhere and not even allowed to have contacted their family or threatened with incarceration should any speak of what happened???
If not, it would be simply amazing that not one has whispered a word of what transpired and that no one they spoke to, would have leaked any of this information.
Something here smells to high heaven....along with everything else associated with this cluster fook!
Thanks for posting this.
Sorry Rowan, your oped stinks and smells like it came from the Outhouse and DNC:
The procedures our SpecOps, Navy, Air Force and Army set up to rescue endangered Embassy personnel have been around for decades.
They get refined and updated as our Spec Ops and their backups obtain better equipment, faster/better humint and elint.
Our military was ready and waiting for their authorization from our Faux POTUS, the traitor in the Outhouse, which never came.
Obozo refused to pull the pin and authorize the rescue. He went to bed to prepare for a hard fund raising trip to Vegas.
Then, he and his evil minions lied and good Americans died.
Below is the link to Travis McGees explanation of how this would work unless the POTUS Traitor doesnt authorize the final actions.
Now I was only a LT for 5 years active duty in NavSpecWar, but it was imprinted deeply upon my brain that ONLY the POTUS can give cross-border permission. Probably a million living ex-military officers know this like they know 2+2=4. This Benghazi fiasco is Obamas baby 100% and there is no way for him to wiggle out.
The system is designed to ENSURE that when a crisis is happening, (and a missing ambassador with a consulate under attack is Crisis Level Infinity), and military assets are already charging in to the rescue, the president must be in the loop to grant the the cross-border authorization.
Nobody else can do this. This one formality must be followed, just put your intitials here, Mr. President, for history, so to speak. Boiler plate, but it must be done.
(Can you imagine Reagan or either Bush saying No. Cross border permission not granted. Stop the rescue. Stand down.)
The POTUS has to tell the Sec. State and JCS, Yes, do it, execute the rescue, cross the borders. Then it WILL happen, without delay, since the military is already on the way, flying in from all directions toward Benghazi.
But if POTUS says at 5pm DC time, No military action, no crossing the border, and then he becomes unavailable, then his last standing order stands until he changes it.
So if he went to bed, for example, nobody could change his standing orders.
I imagine that a lot of extreme military, CIA and State Dept. craziness was going down while Obama was sleeping. Aircraft must be told proceed, or return to base, or they fall from the sky. I imagine many HEATED arguments around the globe on phone, text and email, subject, Well wake the damn president up! Followed by, I cant! You MUST stand down the mission!
Just imagine dozens of inbound planes, jets and helos. Ships moving at full speed into position to be lilypads for long-range over-water helo refueling. Airborne refueling tankers all head to the area. Its a complicated ballet. The Pentagon is wide awake, the military is on full alert.
The rescue is in process, from the first minutes after the alarm.
Everybody in all the planes and involved HQs knows how many minutes/miles to the Libyan border, Benghazi, and their bingo fuel moment, when they must turn around or run dry and crash. Ships can loiter, but planes fall from the sky.
So you can imagine why General Ham of Africom was relieved for refusing to stand down. He probably KNEW Obama was unavailable, and was screaming over the phone, Well, wake him up, dammit!!
Planes and jets and helicopters and ships and commando teams are zooming all around the central Med, keying in on Benghazi
In that environment, OBAMA WAS ASLEEP AND UNREACHABLE!!!!! Resting up for Las Vegas! With a MISSING AMBASSADOR, in Al-Queadatown!
Anybody not furious is a vegetable.
Grampa Daves closing comments: Anyone not furious about this, is an A$$hole and doesnt belong on this site.
Please listen to this and Nordstrom speaking with Baier.
Obama says we can cut defense spending because we don’t need as much equipment, now that we’ve got ships that go underwater. Obama is so smart he would have just one great big ship and one big plane that can do everything. And it will be too far away from any real place that might need it, to be able to respond when needed.
The former SEALs didn’t ask for Green Berets; they asked for fire power to hit the targets that they had already marked. Is the Pentagon trying to say that our unit that handles the Middle East and Africa doesn’t have any planes that can shoot missiles?
And yet they want to cut defense spending so we have even LESS, since Obama is all about making us safer in the world? Good Lord!
There are two parties making a big mistake.
I know how you feel, I feel the same way, but they probably won’t get rid of the racist bass turd. Whorealdo has the IQ of a salt marsh fly.
That is a fair impression from all of the revelations that have come out of this. Which is pretty darned strange given the prominence of Libya in 0coward's foreign policy. Amateur Hour all the way!
There was no protest at all in Benghazi or Tripoli and the ‘video’ had nothing to do with the Cairo protest. It was the State Dept. tweeting and talking to the press that caused all of the other riots around the world IMO. Especially the deadly riots in Pakistan several days later. The day after 0coward and Hillbilly’s apology video aired there.
You think we’re whipped?
Those drones see well enough to fire missiles at dozens of houses in Pakistan. A country that hasn't given us permission to fly over it or make military strikes. Yemen too.
In otherwards, they didnt do it because of the negative publicity if Libyans claimed they killed innocents.
Maybe we shouldn't have 41 people in a dangerous place where we aren't willing to do anything to protect them. If that sorry excuse is true then would we defend our people in any embassy or consulate in the world?
General Keane lied about not having any forces in the area and he sounded like a coward when he said the "fighting was over in an hour." Even if it was (and it wasn't) no one watching it unfold on their computers knew who was dead and who was still alive. The ambassador was not accounted for until the people who brought him to the hospital called a number on Stevens' phone and got the State Dept. about four hours after the attack began.
What kind of coward and idiot watches a firefight assault on their own people and when it seems to have stopped, and not knowing who is dead or alive, decides there is no need to send help?
TigersEye's amendment: Anyone not furious about this, is an A$$hole and doesnt belong in the United States.