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Witnesses: Benghazi attack was planned (and young people were told to chant against film)
Press Herald ^ | Posted: October 28 | By MAGGIE MICHAEL The Associated Press

Posted on 10/29/2012 6:43:07 AM PDT by mgist

Edited on 10/29/2012 6:49:17 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

But they also say young people were told to chant against an anti-Islam film as a cover for the assault.

TRIPOLI, Libya - It began around nightfall on Sept. 11 with about 150 bearded gunmen, some wearing the Afghan-style tunics favored by Islamic militants, sealing off the streets leading to the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi. They set up roadblocks with pickup trucks mounted with heavy machine guns, according to witnesses.


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Sound like the terrorist coordinated very well with the White House
1 posted on 10/29/2012 6:43:14 AM PDT by mgist
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“There was no sign of a spontaneous protest against an American-made movie denigrating Islam’s Prophet Muhammad. But a lawyer passing by the scene said he saw the militants gathering around 20 youths from nearby to chant against the film. Within an hour or so, the assault began, guns blazing as the militants blasted into the compound.”


2 posted on 10/29/2012 6:45:46 AM PDT by mgist
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AP’s revisionist history to blend the ‘it was the video’ mantra with the truth that has been slowly coming out. Yet another MSM attempt to protect and defend the administration.

Regards.


3 posted on 10/29/2012 6:51:35 AM PDT by Sine_Pari
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Yeh right....I believe a lawyer....Of course, if he's a Muzzie...they're supposed to lie to meet their end.

How do you denigrate an evil leader??

4 posted on 10/29/2012 6:55:50 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (r)
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Call me a conspiracy nut if you will but it was all just tooooooooooo pat! No one within 500 miles of where I lived had ever heard of the youtube trailer prior to the murders In fact I defy you to uncover ten people in the US who had ever seen it prior. Yet, within minutes Little Barry Muzzie pulls it out of his ass as the excuse. If he didn’t know about then he probably gets up and cancels Vegas. But if he did know about it before hand, then just maybe he goes back to sleep and then on to Vegas. Everything this little muzzie prick does smells to high Allah! I put NOTHING past him and the wookie!


5 posted on 10/29/2012 6:56:14 AM PDT by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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Random youth were coached to chant against video? Why do the terrorits seem like they are coordinating plans and talking points with the US State Department?


6 posted on 10/29/2012 6:57:11 AM PDT by mgist
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I’m puzzled as to why this is being ignored. Obama and State clearly had planned in advance to attribute jihadi violence in the ME (which they must have known was coming, particularly on the anniversary of 9/11) to this video, and once Obama and State began preaching it earlier with the attack in Egypt, it also served to give the leaders a convenient rallying cry for a mob that was not necessarily made up of confirmed AQ members but certainly served the purposes of the AQ leaders and organized attackers.

Don’t forget that Gen. Dempsey was tasked with running to the phone to call Terry Jones, that obscure Gainesville, Florida backwoods pastor that Obama has turned into a boogeyman, to pressure him not to show the video to his congregation, which he had evidently planned to do. Terry Jones had nothing to do with Egypt or Benghazi, and was a private citizen exercising his rights; but obviously, a private citizen that Obama & Co. keep under surveillance at all times.

I’m surprised Gen. Dempsey’s disgraceful action has received so little attention, even on FR. It’s unheard of in the history of the US, to my knowledge, to have a very, very senior military person put pressure on a private citizen to stop him from doing something that it was, furthermore, the citizen’s constitutionally protected right to do.


7 posted on 10/29/2012 7:01:47 AM PDT by livius
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No one ever saw the video. It was on YouTube and had no more than 100 views. Those were probably from that State Dept. as they were planning their story. They have already retracted the video story, but the creator of the video sits in jail not to be heard from until after elections.


8 posted on 10/29/2012 7:02:50 AM PDT by mgist
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To: livius

“Obama and State clearly had planned in advance to attribute jihadi violence in the ME (which they must have known was coming, particularly on the anniversary of 9/11) to this video, and once Obama and State began preaching it earlier with the attack in Egypt, it also served to give the leaders a convenient rallying cry for a mob that was not necessarily made up of confirmed AQ members but certainly served the purposes of the AQ leaders and organized attackers.”

EXACTLY!


9 posted on 10/29/2012 7:03:57 AM PDT by mgist
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Planned terrorism . . . AND a YouTube protest . . . Yeah, that’s the ticket . . .


10 posted on 10/29/2012 7:17:06 AM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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Must be running an ad in the local Benghazi paper,”If you were chanting against the anti-Muslim Youtube video on 9/11 please call 1-800-FORWARD”.
11 posted on 10/29/2012 7:41:11 AM PDT by throwback (The object of opening the mind, is as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid.)
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One of the things that struck me at the time was the report that Ayman Zawahiri had released a video calling on Libyans to avenge the drone killing of Zawahiri’s #2, who was a Libyan. That video was believed to have been filmed during Ramadan, which means it was in the works for a while. The attack in Egypt was led by Zawahiri’s brother, who had recently been handed over to Egypt’s control and released from prison by Muslim Brotherhood President Morsi. When the attackers arrived at the embassy they told the guards there not to shoot them because they had been sent by Morsi. But what struck me was that the Libyans would not have had time to pull together a coordinated attack in Benghazi in response to the Zawahiri call for revenge, unless they knew of it in advance. And both the film and the lack of security for Stevens seem to me to be the work of the US government. As I understand it, the film itself was only known in that area at all because the Muslim Brotherhood was promoting it.

There is an appearance here that Ayman Zawahiri coordinated these multiple attacks with his brother, Egyptian president Morsi, the Libyan attackers, the Muslim Brotherhood that aired the video, and the Obama Administration. The plan may have been to use the Egyptian attack to overshadow the Libyan attack and use the video by Zawahiri to drum up other protests which could be used by the Obama regime to create an impression that the Muslim world was in an uproar over this video - thus providing the Obama Administration cover for the cover story they already had in the pipeline.

The staging that went on for the Libyan attack reveals the involvement of the key players though. The Obama regime made sure Stevens was unprotected - rerouting security to places it was unneeded and disarming even what security Stevens had - and the guy whose film was tampered with was vulnerable to be arrested (for parole violations that had been ignored for a while). They had their apologies ready - including Obama’s Rose Garden speech the next day, where he spoke about despicable free speech still not justifying this kind of violence, and Hillary’s “tell” that the US government had nothing to do with the creation of the film (which nobody would have even suggested, so the denial only showed that they felt a need to deflect on something nobody would have even accused them of doing).

The whole thing smells to high heaven. That this all happened right after Obama had bragged to the world of killing Bin Laden - even as he was negotiating with the Muslim Brotherhood about their demands that the blind sheikh be released - only adds to the stink. Coupled with the regime’s handing over of Libyan weapons to Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar (all former allies in the war on terror who have seen that Obama punishes allies and rewards terrorists) who then sent the weapons on to ISLAMIST/terrorist rebels in Syria.

At the very least this whole mess shows us what a disaster Obama has been - enabling and emboldening Islamists/terrorists and shutting down those who had formerly been allies against terror. But if these various dots are connected as seems very possible, Obama has actually been working/strategizing WITH OUR ENEMIES.

Obama needs to be impeached immediately - basically put on administrative leave with Biden in charge in the interim, while they investigate and find out if Obama has been committing high treason against the USA by strategizing with our enemies including Zawahiri, Morsi, the Muslim Brotherhood, Al Qaeda, and Ansar al Sharia, and giving them material aid. The nuclear football and access to all US covert technology, as well as the ability to negotiate with anybody all need to be removed from him - because if he is acting as an enemy of the USA he must be disarmed to keep him from doing further treason.

In reality, Joe Biden is the only one the Constitution authorizes to act as Commander-in-Chief anyway (if we ignore that the certification of the electoral vote was never lawfully done in accordance with the law requiring objections to be asked for), since Obama failed to qualify by Jan 20, 2009 - as we know since HI state registrar Alvin Onaka revealed to AZ SOS Ken Bennett that Obama has no legally-valid BC from Hawaii and thus a Hawaii birth has never been legally established. Biden should have been in charge of the US military since noon of Jan 20, 2009. But for sure now that there are serious questions about whether Obama has coordinated with our enemies.


12 posted on 10/29/2012 7:42:41 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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"Random youth were coached to chant against video? Why do the terrorits seem like they are coordinating plans and talking points with the US State Department?"

A witness now reports a small group of random youth chanting something consistent with Obama's original cover story. It is suspicious. It sounds like Obama expected a protest but that the terrorists on the ground planned it poorly and it fizzled out. Al-Qaeda needs better community organizers.


13 posted on 10/29/2012 7:57:55 AM PDT by UnwashedPeasant
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“AP’s revisionist history....”

All you need to know.


14 posted on 10/29/2012 9:06:49 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ((God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.))
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To: Doc Savage
Call me a conspiracy nut if you will but it was all just tooooooooooo pat!

That's because those who made the video are connected to those who attacked the embassy. This has been proven. I believe the thread is easily found on FR that explains it all.

15 posted on 10/29/2012 9:44:47 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts ("The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left." Ecclesiastes 1)
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To: butterdezillion

The attacks took place around 6 pm in Lybia, there is a 6 hour time difference, which would have placed Obama in Maryland around 1 pm est.

Obama was doing a photo op with soldiers at that time. http://potusnews.net/2012/09/potuss-schedule-for-911-anniversary/

http://www.communityforveteran.org/

Emails show White House was notified of terrorist attacks within 2 hours, and the emails specified “terrorist attacks”which would have been between 1-3 pm, Obama didn’t bother to meet with secretary of defense until after 5 pm.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/schedule/president/2012-09-11


16 posted on 10/29/2012 11:00:04 AM PDT by mgist
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To: mgist; UnwashedPeasant; Bloody Sam Roberts; butterdezillion; Doc Savage; livius

My take on the backstory here... choppy but links are provided.

The video/movie was made (at that time) six months ago. OK, what was going on six

months ago?

The first real indications little bammy was going to get canned.

Remember Fenway park?

“DRUDGE has posted a tweet that Bambi was hit with a chorus of BOOS when he

appeared on the big screen at Fenway Park.”

That is Ted Kennedy territory. And jug-ears gets booed?

The polling started too...

April 20, 2012

Gallup: Romney 47% (down 1) Obama 44 (up 1)

Rasmussen: Romney at 46%, Obama at 45%...

What else happened in April? Perhaps a little slush money goes the way of someone

that could be controlled (on parole for computer crimes), Nakoula Basseley Nakoula

posing as Israeli citizen Sam Bacile in California?

He is actually Egyptian. He is put together with Alan Roberts, a onetime porn

filmmaker who hadn’t made a movie in 18 years

http://www.salon.com/topic/innocence_of_muslims/ .

By June “The Innocence of Muslims” is made depicting the prophet Muhammad as a

fraud, coward, murderer, and pedophile. The producer claims the money comes from

“100 Jews.” http://www.thejewishweek.com/innocence-muslims-0 To date they are

unnamed but hang on, that statement is very important.

By July it is parked it on youtube and nothing much happens.

http://www.hollywood.com/news/Innocence_of_Muslims_YouTube_Protests/39863758 There

are some scattered protests but nothing out of the ordinary for the region.

Then a protest was reportedly announced on August 30 by Gamaa Islamiyya

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2012/09/12/report-riots-actually-about-release-of

-blind-sheik/ , an Egyptian terrorist group, to call for the release of its leader,

Sheikh Omar abdel Rahman — aka the blind sheik, who is serving a life sentence for

the first World Trade Center bombing.

Just weeks prior, in June, the State Department actually issued a visa to a member

of that very same Gamaa Islamiyya — again, this is a designated terrorist

organization — and met with him in Washington, as part of a delegation of Egyptian

leaders. He is told by State Department spokesperson Victoria Nuland, in reference

to Sheikh Omar abdel Rahman, “We neither had then, nor do we have now, any reason

to believe that this particular individual — who at the time of his application was

a member of parliament — would pose a threat to the United States,”

No Way? Really? “Not a threat?”

This is the azzhole from the 1993 World Trade Center bombings doing LIFE in a

Federal prison for organizing the attack!

In early September there is a lot of loose talk about the release of the “Blind

Sheik” Omar Abdel Rahman, but nothing materializes.

Conveniently, clips from the video was aired on Egyptian television on Sept. 8,

2012.

This is the bait being thrown into the trap.

http://www.hollywood.com/news/Innocence_of_Muslims_YouTube_Protests/39863758

Until then, nobody knew about it, it was practacley an unknown.

Not anymore. It is now the “reason” for initial scattered protests. It is the

finger yanking on the trigger. September 11 is just days away!

Who could NOT think that this will cause major rioting and attacks against

Americans? Of course they will cause riots and attacks.

A successful attack on an American embassy or consulate where many hostages are

taken in mid September could lead to a late October resolution and release of the

hostages, thus making jugears look good just in time for the election.

Let’s say a consulate where the locals knew there were no Marines and no real

capability for defense at all? Where the Obama State Department withdrew a 16

member Special Forces team from Benghazi just one month before?

Let’s say just like the one in Benghazi, Libya, where the only security was local

rent-a-cops who knew the entire layout?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/9607958/Britis

h-firm-secured-Benghazi-consulate-contract-with-little-experience.html

The security for the Consulate was specifically designed by the State Department

and awarded to a small British outfit, Blue Mountain. Blue Mountain Group was not

identified as the vendor in that summary of the contract. Instead, the vendor was

listed under the vague term “Miscellaneous Foreign Awardee.”

Even stranger, the vendor contact address on the contract — 1275 First Street, NE,

Washington, D.C. is not the office of Blue Mountain Group, but is instead the

office of the Regulatory Secretariat Division of the General Services

Administration of the federal government. The phone contact listed in the contract

is of an office number for an employee of the GSA.”

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/09/19/State-Department-Contract-Hid-Identit

y-of-British-Firm-Providing-Benghazi-Security

The State Department knew exactly what level of security existed there which was

practically none. Just a five man security team from the US diplomatic protection

service and three members of a local revolutionary brigade were also on duty on the

night of the attacks.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/9607958/Britis

h-firm-secured-Benghazi-consulate-contract-with-little-experience.html

Why did the WH refused to act or issue an order to help save our people there?

They watched and listened for six hours and did NOTHING.

Of course they did nothing.

They were waiting for the embassy personnel to be taken hostage.

That did not happen. The local koranimals predictably (for anyone with half a

brain) went ape-s&i+ and tried to kill or f*** everything in site and did not stick

to the plan. Why?

Because of that, most of the politically valuable embassy personnel escaped. That

is because the attackers were told by the local rent-a-cops about the off site safe

house and went there to kill the high value target, Ambassador Stevens as well as

the unknown factor, Former Navy SEALs Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty. If not for

that and the magnificent heroism of Former Navy SEALs Tyrone Woods and Glen

Doherty, all the Embassy staff would have been prisoners awaiting The Won, Hussein

Obama The Magnificent to save them by releasing Sheikh Omar abdel Rahman in an

exchange and begin performing victory laps for “his” astounding Middle East Foreign

Policy skills.

Remember, “nor do we have now, any reason to believe that this particular

individual — who at the time of his application was a member of parliament — would

pose a threat to the United States,””

Just in time for the election.

By the way, have you heard a word about them, where they are, what they saw?

Nope.

You heard the White House and The State Department (Clinton) and the entire

spectrum of communist agenda liberal media drone on and on about “the video” and

“the spontaneous protest” and “it was not a terrorist attack.”

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/09/27/hillary-clinton-you-know-aq-might-have-had-so

mething-to-do-with-that-consulate-sacking-after-all/

For eight solid days.

But if the plan to allow the embassy to be overrun, claim it was by “spontaneous

protestors” (that did not ever exist

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/10/u-s-security-official-in-libya-tells-c

ongressional-investigators-about-inappropriately-low-security-at-benghazi-post/)

because standard security measures were removed, failed because the attackers

followed Ambassador Stevens to the alternate “safe house” location to kill him

instead of capture him, what went wrong?

That part is still unraveling but a lot of it is already out in the open.

http://www.businessinsider.com/us-syria-heavy-weapons-jihadists-2012-10

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/oct/22/the-real-reason-behind-benghazigate

/

From here I am running out of steam. Can anyone unravel the connections of Stevens

to his activities in the two links above?

Also, I believe he was involved in very similar corrupt activity for the overthrow

of Muammar Gaddafi which occurred October 2011, after his March 2011 assignment as

the liaison to the “opposition” in Libya.
http://abcnewsradioonline.com/world-news/us-names-chris-stevens-liaison-to-libyan-o

pposition.html

“”Stevens attended Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s meeting in Paris Monday

night with representatives of the Libyan opposition, as did U.S. Ambassador to

Libya Gene Cretz, who has also had contacts with the opposition.

President Obama told reporters Friday that his administration would appoint an

official to maintain contact with the budding Libyan opposition, but officials had

not revealed who it would be.””
http://abcnewsradioonline.com/world-news/us-names-chris-stevens-liaison-to-libyan-o

pposition.html

It was Stevens and he had a history in Libya. He had served in Libya twice

previously: as the Deputy Chief of Mission (from 2007 to 2009) and as Special

Representative to the National Transitional Council (from March 2011 to November

2011) during the Libyan revolution. He arrived in Tripoli in May 2012 as the U.S.

Ambassador to Libya.

Anyone care to tackle the back-story on the latter part of all this? Like I said,

I am running out of steam. Anybody have any new leads on this point?

.


17 posted on 10/29/2012 11:06:13 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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It began around nightfall on Sept. 11 with about 150 bearded gunmen, some wearing the Afghan-style tunics favored by Islamic militants, sealing off the streets leading to the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi. They set up roadblocks with pickup trucks mounted with heavy machine guns, according to witnesses.

Ok, this is the second time I have come across this and the first time the rumor was hinting that they were not locals but actual Afghans shipped in.

So the question is do Libyans wear Afghan-style tunics???? Because this other blog was laying out something even more wild.

18 posted on 10/29/2012 12:15:54 PM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: TLI

What kind of coffee do you drink?


19 posted on 10/29/2012 7:28:41 PM PDT by Henry Hnyellar
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To: Henry Hnyellar
Whooo-weeeeee!

Lots of busted links in that one...

What kind of coffee do you drink?

The kind where you can think.

I didn't write the articles, Salon, Jewish Week, Holloywood.com, Commentary Magazine, Bretbart.com, Telegraph UK, Hotair, ABC News, Washington Times and ABC News Radio had the info.

Here, for your convenience are all links.

Read, think. It's not illegal... yet.

http://www.salon.com/topic/innocence_of_muslims/

http://www.thejewishweek.com/innocence-muslims-0

http://www.hollywood.com/news/Innocence_of_Muslims_YouTube_Protests/39863758

www.commentarymagazine.com/2012/09/12/report-riots-actually-about-release-of-blind-sheik/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/9607958/British-firm-secured-Benghazi-consulate-contract-with-little-experience.html

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/09/27/hillary-clinton-you-know-aq-might-have-had-something-to-do-with-that-consulate-sacking-after-all/

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/10/u-s-security-official-in-libya-tells-congressional-investigators-about-inappropriately-low-security-at-benghazi-post/

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/oct/22/the-real-reason-behind-benghazigate/

http://abcnewsradioonline.com/world-news/us-names-chris-stevens-liaison-to-libyan-opposition.html

.

20 posted on 10/29/2012 8:43:49 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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