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Harry Reid's Graveyard (Senate Democrats are promising pre-emptive gridlock for 2013)
Wall Street Journal ^ | 10/29/2012

Posted on 10/29/2012 6:47:14 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Even if Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan win on November 6, his agenda will be stymied if Republicans can't pick up at least three more seats than their current 47 and control the Senate. That's clear from the last two years, when Harry Reid's not-so-deliberative body became the graveyard for fiscal and other reform.

House Republicans won an historic midterm election in 2010, picking up 63 seats. They also gained six Senate seats, but a handful of weak GOP candidates (Sharron Angle, Ken Buck, Christine O'Donnell) cost them control of the upper body. Back in charge in 2011, Mr. Reid proceeded to stop nearly everything that House Republicans passed. President Obama hasn't even had to sweat a veto fight because nothing escapes Mr. Reid's lost world.

Consider the record. In 2011 and 2012 the House passed more than three-dozen economic or jobs-related bills and with only a few exceptions they died in the Senate without a vote. The bills dealt with regulatory relief, tax reduction, domestic drilling for energy, offshore drilling, a jobs bill for veterans, repeal of ObamaCare and many more. Many passed the House with significant Democratic support, as the nearby list shows.

Then there is the Democratic failure on their constitutional obligation of passing a budget. House Republicans passed their budgets in each of the past two years in the spring. The latest one, crafted by Vice Presidential nominee Paul Ryan, contained $4.5 trillion in deficit reduction—at least twice as much as Mr. Obama's budget proposal.

By contrast, the Senate failed to pass any budget in 2012. Or 2011. Or 2010. The Senate hasn't passed a budget in more than 1,200 days. Sorry, Harry, you can't blame that on a Republican filibuster, because it takes only 51 votes to pass a Senate budget resolution.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: gridlock; harryreid; senate

1 posted on 10/29/2012 6:47:22 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
but a handful of weak GOP candidates RINOs at the national GOP level actually sabotaged the campaigns of duly nominated conservative Republicans (Sharron Angle, Ken Buck, Christine O'Donnell)—because they feared losing control of the party. This cost them control of the upper body.
3 posted on 10/29/2012 6:54:51 AM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: SeekAndFind

Those Democrats voting in the House with Republicans more than likely took cover for their pending reelections knowing Reid would stonewall those bills.


4 posted on 10/29/2012 6:56:24 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: SeekAndFind

> but a handful of weak GOP candidates cost them control of the upper body

And this time two strong candidates who just had to fall into the rape trap will do the same if not worse.


5 posted on 10/29/2012 6:57:33 AM PDT by soycd
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To: SeekAndFind
Fine, let it be documented that Democrat senators refused to prevent our collapse. I’ll just keep buying bullets.
6 posted on 10/29/2012 6:58:35 AM PDT by ryan71
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To: SeekAndFind

If Romney wins, he will be facing not only this nightmare, but an even larger one:

The economy and financial state he will inherit is many times worse than the one that was handed to Obama.

He will be restrained from dealing with it because of the Senate, #1, as this article states. #2, the actions required to undo the damage done by Obama to the nation’s balance sheet will be unpopular to far more than the 47% who depend on the gov. So what he will be able to enact may be the very thing that prevents him from being re-elected in 2016.

IMHO.....


7 posted on 10/29/2012 7:00:06 AM PDT by Arlis (.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I am thinking positive and we will win the majority in both houses..In the name of Jesus we will win..Amen!!!


8 posted on 10/29/2012 7:04:53 AM PDT by PLD
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To: SeekAndFind

Vote them out - problem solved


9 posted on 10/29/2012 7:05:54 AM PDT by blueyon (The U. S. Constitution - read it and weep)
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To: SeekAndFind

Mitt could study the Administration of Barack Obama and use hundreds of executive orders to work his agenda. His first one should rescind all of Obama’s.


10 posted on 10/29/2012 7:10:31 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree (Benghazi murders due to spontaneous riot over a video. Or terrorism. Depends on the day.)
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To: blueyon

“Vote them out - problem solved”

Yep, if the Repubs take back the senate, dingy harry’s threats don’t mean spit.


11 posted on 10/29/2012 7:17:14 AM PDT by V_TWIN (obama=where there's smoke, there's mirrors)
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree

You need Senate approval to spend money, but there must be ways that Romney could cut spending without such approval. Simply get his departments to cut unnecessary expenditures. You probably couldn’t do that with the big ticket items such as Medicare/Medicaid, but there are plenty of other areas where the spending is discretionary. Start by directing the Secretary of Energy to stop wasting billions on crazy-eyed alternative energy boondoggles.


12 posted on 10/29/2012 7:19:43 AM PDT by littleharbour
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To: SeekAndFind

Just sidestep Congress. Obama did it all the time and no one did a thing except whimper.


13 posted on 10/29/2012 7:25:05 AM PDT by Newbomb Turk (Hey Newbomb, where's your brothers ElCamino ?)
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To: Newbomb Turk
Just sidestep Congress. Obama did it all the time and no one did a thing except whimper.

If a Republican tries it, there will be a million Dems on the streets of DC screaming for his blood. They will occupy the halls of Congress (as they did to the legislative building in Wisconsin) and stage a human-wave assault on the White House.

And the press will back them.

14 posted on 10/29/2012 7:33:26 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (political correctness is communist thought control, disguised as good manners)
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To: SeekAndFind

With a simple majority vote, if the Republicans take control of the senate, they can do for their benefit, what Reid has threatened to do, and done, to them.

That is, Reid threatened to take away the filibuster, and also stop the ability of a single senator to put a “hold” on the business of the senate and approval of nominations for appointive office.

And for the better part of four years, Reid has effectively marginalized the Republicans in both the senate and the house, in the senate by changing the rules to strip them of power, and in the house by refusing for the senate to even begin the budget process. Instead he has insisted that all of congress must pass “continuing resolutions” of the last W. Bush budget.

Were the house to refuse to do so, it would “shut down the government”, which when the Republicans did it during the Clinton years, the Democrats, with full MSM support, blamed them, and the public believed the lie.

So in effect, Harry Reid has been the real US president, and a bad one, for the last four years.

And, curse him, he has now threatened that if the Democrats lose in the election, the lame duck senate will do their level best to bring about a real depression, cripple our military, and leave behind as much chaos as they can.

So the bottom line to the next Republican senate majority leader is that with a Republican president and a Republican congress, Democrat perfidy and obstructionism will no longer be tolerated. The Democrats must taste their own medicine, and be relegated to being inconsequential as the Republicans strive to repair the damage the Democrats have done.

If the Republican senate majority leader is a weakling, heaven help us all. For every time he extends an olive branch to the Democrats, they will use it to harm both the Republicans and our nation. As they lose, they must instead be given a dunce cap and told to sit in the corner and be quiet.


15 posted on 10/29/2012 7:34:33 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (DIY Bumper Sticker: "THREE TIMES,/ DEMOCRATS/ REJECTED GOD")
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To: SamuraiScot
but a handful of weak GOP candidates RINOs at the national GOP level actually sabotaged the campaigns of duly nominated conservative Republicans (Sharron Angle, Ken Buck, Christine O'Donnell)—because they feared losing control of the party. This cost them control of the upper body.

Baloney. Conservatives are, at best, about 40% of the electorate. In order to elect a good, solid conservative, that candidate must appeal to RINOs, independents, namby pambys, and other associated folk in order to get to 51%. In addition, you can expect the Democrats to lie and cheat and tell voters that your great conservative candidate is evil personified and will take away all of your entitlements, destroy your freedom to do drugs and get free birth control, and round up anyone not a member of the Daughters of the Revolution. This is why Angle, Buck, and O'Donnell lost - they were bad candidates who could not appeal to the people we need to win an election. That's why good conservative candidates who come up short on election day are called LOSERS. We need conservative candidates who are winners.

16 posted on 10/29/2012 7:37:17 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: SeekAndFind

Democrats must lose the Senate. Don’t be fooled by Democrat candidates who put on their “conservative” values every six years to get re-elected, but vote with Harry Reid every time he needs their vote.


17 posted on 10/29/2012 7:37:38 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: PLD

Positive results come from thinking positive!

Unless all the polls are way off, Romney is about to clean nobama’s clock BIG TIME and big time usually results in good coattails.

What dem Senators not in dark blue States, up for re-election will be able to isolate themselves from the nobama sinking? I can not think of one who has stood up to the super libs, Dingy Harry or nobama? They will be attached to nobama’s fail coattails.


18 posted on 10/29/2012 7:42:15 AM PDT by X-spurt (It is truly time for ON YOUR FEET or on your knees)
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To: PLD

Positive results come from thinking positive!

Unless all the polls are way off, Romney is about to clean nobama’s clock BIG TIME and big time usually results in good coattails.

What dem Senators not in dark blue States, up for re-election will be able to isolate themselves from the nobama sinking? I can not think of one who has stood up to the super libs, Dingy Harry or nobama? They will be attached to nobama’s fail coattails.


19 posted on 10/29/2012 7:43:46 AM PDT by X-spurt (It is truly time for ON YOUR FEET or on your knees)
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Lots of good comments on the polling skewing taking place to create the appearance of a horse race. Romney is on track to win big, 5-8% IMO based on the internals of these polls.

There is another big factor to consider when viewing the skew in these polls. The same bias exist in the polls for the Senate races, if things break right we could go +5-7 in the Senate: PA, VA, FL, WI, MT, MO, ND.

Also factor in Tea Party Senators taking over for RINO’s in IN & TX.

Also heard Mia Love leading in UT now.

Everyone just needs to vote.


20 posted on 10/29/2012 7:44:10 AM PDT by Leto
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To: anyone

What are GOP Senate prospects in 2014?


21 posted on 10/29/2012 8:02:24 AM PDT by far sider
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To: SeekAndFind; pookie18

whoknew


22 posted on 10/29/2012 8:11:46 AM PDT by FrankR (They will become our ultimate masters the day we surrender the 2nd Amendment.)
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To: SamuraiScot

You mean that Angle, Buck and O’Donnell ran such tight, pro races that they couldn’t win? It seems that each one shot themselves in the foot at one point or another.

If conservatives want to win they have to learn how to play the game. It’s done by pros. We can learn how:

http://www.leadershipinstitute.org/training/

Sign up yourself, your kids, anybody, but let’s learn how to win. We should be working every campaign we can to learn how to win, over and over again.


23 posted on 10/29/2012 8:16:45 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: SamuraiScot; Impy; Clintonfatigued; BillyBoy; AuH2ORepublican

Naah, they ultimately were not the best of what we could’ve put up. O’Donnell was mainly to take out the execrable Mike Castle, whom I believe would’ve switched to the Democrats in time had he been elected and then resigned so ‘Tard Joe’s progeny could take over the seat. Buck was a flaky candidate who lost to a nobody Dem seatwarmer (and not helped by the CO GOP meltdown surrounding their incompetence with nominating a decent Gubernatorial candidate).

As for Angle, she was pure, unadulterated fail. She was a nut, made unfounded allegations of voter fraud against Dean Heller, and alienated the very people she needed to win, and she already had 2 losses under her belt. ANY other nominee would’ve taken out Dingy Harry, but Angle was the only one who could lose. Danny Tarkanian, who should’ve been the nominee, is currently in the lead for the new 4th NV House seat. If he does well in the House, hopefully he will take out Reid in ‘16, unless Reid exits feet first before then.


24 posted on 10/29/2012 8:26:31 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: SeekAndFind

“A handful of WEAK GOP CANDIDATES...”

Yeah, right. And they got such WONDERFUL support from the Karl Rove’s of the Party, didn’t they! Move the Rep Party’s liberal leadership to the Dem Party and at least one of these candidates might have won!


25 posted on 10/29/2012 8:34:32 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: far sider; Impy; Clintonfatigued; Clemenza; Skulllspitter; randita; LS; AuH2ORepublican; ...

All those 2008 seats won by Democrats are up. We’d have to have a complete disaster not to pick up more than a few...

AK... Begich (fluke) - easy pickup
AR... Pryor (retiring ?) - pickup
CO... Mark Udall - competitive
IL... Durbin - competitive with the right candidate
IA... Harkin - (retiring ?) - should beat him anyway
LA... Landrieu - (retiring ?) - very weak, pickup for us
MA... Kerry (retiring ?) - if Brown loses, he could run again
MI... Levin (retiring ?) - 36 yr incumbent, should take down
MN... Al Franken (fluke) - stolen election, should win (Pawlenty may run)
MT... Baucus (retiring ?) - 36-yr incumbent (40 including prior House service), should face strong challenger
NH... Shaheen (competitive) possible rematch against Sununu
NJ... Lautenberg (retiring ?), open seat could give us a shot
NM... Tom Udall (whispers might retire after 1 term, though he should be favored unless the GOP has a strong candidate)
NC... Hagan (fluke) - weak incumbent, GOP should take it back
OR... Merkley - depends on challenger, he upset Gordon Smith
RI... Jack Reed - invisible incumbent, but GOP never challenges him
SC... Graham - replacing him with a Conservative in the primary would be a “pickup”
SD... Tim Johnson (retiring ?) - ex-Gov. Mike Rounds may run, and will be a pickup
VA... Mark Warner - if strong challenger runs like Gov. Bob McDonnell, he is beatable
WV... Rockefeller (retiring ?) - with open seat, we should finally pick this one up after more than a half-century

So, all in all, if we don’t grab at least 10 of those contests, that would be a poor performance on our part (although whom is elected President will tilt it — if Zero wins, I think we get a dozen... if the GOP wins, a lesser amount).


26 posted on 10/29/2012 8:49:40 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: V_TWIN

“Yep, if the Repubs take back the senate, dingy harry’s threats don’t mean spit.”

Wrong.

The Pubbies aren’t going to win a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate. That can’t happen (at least not this time).

What this means is that from the get-go of the incoming Romney administration, we are going to see a level of obstruction by the ‘rats in the Senate as has not been seen in decades, perhaps within this century.

The ‘rats will try to wage obstruction on a national scale, as they tried to do to Wisconsin goverment against the Scott Walker administration.

Financial bills may get through, because they cannot be filibustered and require only a 51-vote majority for passage.

But expect EVERYTHING else to run up against the wall, including judicial nominations.

Of course, the Pubbies have an “out”, and that is to use the nuclear option to end the requirement of 60 votes to achive cloture and overcome a filibuster. It was discussed in the past (by both sides), but never used.

The Pubbies could do this.
But they won’t.

Result:
Obstruction!


27 posted on 10/29/2012 9:06:46 AM PDT by Road Glide
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Amen.


28 posted on 10/29/2012 9:20:28 AM PDT by Defiant (If there are infinite parallel universes, why Lord, am I living in the one with Obama as President?)
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To: SeekAndFind

I will grant you that Sharon Angle wasn’t the strongest candidte.

In Nevada, it is hard to get people to run against Dirty Harry Reid & to go into debt to do so.

He has a stranglehold on the Clark County & Las Vegas voters.

On Monday night, Angle showed a 4 point lead in the polls. Tuesday night, she had lost by 6 points.

That is a 10 point swing.

I don’t think the pollsters are that bad at doing their job.

I think the difference was massive ACORN fraudulent voters.

ACORN was caught with over 400,000 fraudulent voter registrations.....in a state that had 1.22 Million voters...tht is about 1/3 of all the registered voters!!

Their fine—after 2 years of ‘investigation’? $5000.

That is about 1 1/4 CENTS for each voter card.

Not nearly enough of a deterrent, IMO.


29 posted on 10/29/2012 9:26:39 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: SeekAndFind

I will grant you that Sharon Angle wasn’t the strongest candidte.

In Nevada, it is hard to get people to run against Dirty Harry Reid & to go into debt to do so.

He has a stranglehold on the Clark County & Las Vegas voters.

On Monday night, Angle showed a 4 point lead in the polls. Tuesday night, she had lost by 6 points.

That is a 10 point swing.

I don’t think the pollsters are that bad at doing their job.

I think the difference was massive ACORN fraudulent voters.

ACORN was caught with over 400,000 fraudulent voter registrations.....in a state that had 1.22 Million voters...tht is about 1/3 of all the registered voters!!

Their fine—after 2 years of ‘investigation’? $5000.

That is about 1 1/4 CENTS for each voter card.

Not nearly enough of a deterrent, IMO.


30 posted on 10/29/2012 9:28:17 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
With a simple majority vote, if the Republicans take control of the senate, they can do for their benefit, what Reid has threatened to do, and done, to them.

The dims did away with the simple majority rule on just about everything proposed by Bush. With maneuvering they got super majorities required for most bills they didn't like. Wasn't it called the 'nuclear option'?
They'll do the same to Romney.

The repubs need about 60 seats. Not likely.

The dims will hate Romney as much as they hated Bush and any Romney idea that he will be able to work with them is a dream.
The only way the dims will work with Romney is for Romney to cave to their demands.

31 posted on 10/29/2012 10:25:54 AM PDT by Vinnie (A)
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To: Vinnie

There’s a twist. Each house of congress creates its own rules, and no particular house can bind future houses as to what its rules must be. So a 60-vote majority, the filibuster, senate “holds”, etc., can be voted out when the Republicans are in power.

Just like Reid has threatened to do to them if the Democrats keep power.


32 posted on 10/29/2012 10:50:17 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (DIY Bumper Sticker: "THREE TIMES,/ DEMOCRATS/ REJECTED GOD")
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To: centurion316
Angle, Buck, and O'Donnell lost - they were bad candidates who could not appeal to the people we need to win an election.

O'Donnell and Angle were . . . colorful. I think there's an opportunity for the GOP establishment to deal with that before the primary. Once the primary voters have spoken, I think it's poor form for the GOP elite to campaign against them in television appearances during the general election, as Mr. Rove and others did. Trying to make friends by selling out your allies is treason.

The Democrats seem to have no problem lining up behind whatever candidate struggles across the finish line in the primary, unless he's already been indicted.

33 posted on 10/29/2012 2:29:41 PM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican

It looks excellent, should be a net gain even if we have a Prez Romney with 47% approval.

But we haven’t cleaned up like that since 1980.

As I’ve often mentioned we’ve never beat more than 2 incumbents in any cycle since.

Pryor Jr. might retire?


34 posted on 10/31/2012 1:49:50 AM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: txrefugee
RealClearPolitics has the next Senate at 46-43, with 11 seats up for grabs....
AZ, CT, IN, MA, MO, MT, NV, ND, OH, VA, WI.

Winning 8 of 11 won't be easy. I hope the GOP has been doing the right stuff in the background to get this done (since the Senate race has been utterly under the radar thus far)

35 posted on 10/31/2012 2:12:14 AM PDT by Teacher317 ('Tis time to fear when tyrants seem to kiss.)
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To: Impy; AuH2ORepublican; Clintonfatigued; BillyBoy

The Republican shift in Arkansas has been dramatic (as I surmised more than a few years ago, it was Huckster’s reign as Governor that stopped the realignment dead in its tracks). Pryor has a huge target on his back (as does Landrieu in LA), and I suspect he may retire rather than get carried out like Blanche Lincoln did. By 2014, it will have been 12 years since Pryor ran a bonafide campaign (then against incumbent Tim Hutchinson), since the GOP gave him and most of the other races a pass in 2008. That’s a long time in a changing state.

The only truly formidable Democrat left in Arkansas is Gov. Beebe, and even he hasn’t been able to stop the slide against the Dems on his watch. If Pryor retires, the Dems will apply heavy pressure to Beebe to run. The question is whether Beebe would want to serve in a GOP majority Senate as a minority party backbencher.

In any event, it appears Little Rock Congressman Tim Griffin wants the seat, and he may get it (the downside, that district could go back to the Dems again as long as they don’t nominate a Black leftist as they did in 2010).


36 posted on 10/31/2012 4:48:52 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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