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Why did Benghazi security fall short?
Seattle Times ^ | October 30, 2012 | MICHAEL R. GORDON, ERIC SCHMITT and MICHAEL S. SCHMIDT

Posted on 10/30/2012 12:31:10 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

..............When it came to weapons, the U.S. security team was outgunned. The Americans were equipped with M4 rifles and side arms. But Libya was rife with rocket-propelled grenades, machine guns, mortars and AK-47s.

Much of the security depended on maintaining a low profile. At one point, Nordstrom, the regional security officer, proposed establishing guard towers, but the State Department rejected that on the grounds that it would make the compound more conspicuous.

There was no doubt, however, that there were many in Benghazi who knew the compound's location. On June 6, a bomb was planted near the American Mission's outer wall, blowing out a 12-foot-wide hole. No one was injured.

On June 11, the lead vehicle of the British ambassador's convoy was hit by an armor-piercing rocket-propelled grenade, wounding a British medic and driver. The British envoy left Benghazi the next day, and the British post in the city was closed June 17.

About the same time, the Red Cross pulled out after it was attacked a second time. "When that occurred, it was apparent to me that we were the last flag flying in Benghazi; we were the last thing on their target list to remove," said Lt. Col. Andrew Wood, the head of the military security team in Tripoli.

In the event of a significant attack, Oliveira noted, the Americans were counting on the February 17th Brigade to rush to their aid, as it had during the June 6 bombing. The embassy had also established a series of "trip wires," classified benchmarks about intelligence on attack preparations or escalating unrest that would prompt the United States to evacuate the Benghazi compound. But the trip wires were not set off.

New security cameras with night-vision capability were shipped to the Benghazi compound but were still sitting in crates when the September attack occurred.....................................

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: benghazi; foreignpolicy; libya; middleeast; shadowwars; threatmatrix

1 posted on 10/30/2012 12:31:13 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“But the trip wires were not set off.”

Hit.


2 posted on 10/30/2012 12:42:06 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills and none dare call it treason)
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To: MestaMachine

It’s quite a revealing article.

Summing up, in the “best” light, I’d call it malfeasance in office.


3 posted on 10/30/2012 12:45:40 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It was as it should be for a gun running operation...


4 posted on 10/30/2012 12:48:45 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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The article documents that Obama knew al Qaeda wasn't fading away....

There is more about the growing threat here:

Alive and Deadly - The workings of al Qaeda's expanding franchise

5 posted on 10/30/2012 12:50:56 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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6 posted on 10/30/2012 12:53:36 AM PDT by mirkwood (The more dishonorable their intentions, the more obtuse their language.)
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To: mirkwood; All

http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/10/in_their_own_words_obamas_effect_on_military_families.html

............””We have not gotten any blowback whatsoever. In fact, we get e-mails every day thanking us, and telling us their child who is in Afghanistan supports us. What we are hoping to do is to scream out loud enough so that American citizens will learn and then get on board. The policies of this administration are getting our soldiers killed.”

American Thinker asked Billy and Karen to describe the events leading up to the night Aaron died. They point out that then-Secretary of Defense Gates kept telling this administration that there should be no operational details made public about the Osama bin Laden raid. Yet, from the president on down, this administration took a victory lap. Karen was furious as she watched all the information coming out, and she thought, “Oh my G-d — he is going to get them killed. The president endangered the lives of our warriors by promoting himself. Then Aaron called and told us that intelligence was receiving chatter that we were all being targeted: the SEALs, their parents, wives, and children.

“After getting off the phone, my heart went into my mouth. Because of the decisions of this administration, families have to start watching their backs; that is our reality. After hearing of my son’s death, I thought that this administration had put a target on my son’s back about ninety days after Osama bin Laden was killed.””

Billy felt that this administration has tied the American warriors’ hands behind their backs. He was in Afghanistan while Bush was president, but on his second tour of duty, in 2010, he became angry because of what had changed. Billy said that Aaron always said, “Our enemies understand force. They hate us, but they also fear us. They only respect power.”......................


7 posted on 10/30/2012 1:00:50 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Why did Benghazi security fall short?

It didn't fall short - it wasn't allowed to be USED.


8 posted on 10/30/2012 1:08:53 AM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Because we have a mooseslime mole in the WH!


9 posted on 10/30/2012 1:13:09 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: 103198

Mark...


10 posted on 10/30/2012 1:28:14 AM PDT by 103198
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Why did Benghazi security fall short?...’Cause they didn’t have none?


11 posted on 10/30/2012 1:40:34 AM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
When it came to weapons, the U.S. security team was outgunned. The Americans were equipped with M4 rifles and side arms. But Libya was rife with rocket-propelled grenades, machine guns, mortars and AK-47s

The U.S. had superpowerful air assets, real-time eyes-on intelligence and trained SEALs with a target designator.

But the Jihadists had one of their own in the White House. He encouraged the SEALs to give away their position by designating targets - but then refused to allow the circling AC-130 to open fire.

12 posted on 10/30/2012 1:41:06 AM PDT by agere_contra ("Government creates nothing" - Romney, 2012)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Our soldiers in Afghanistan are forced to work with Afghani soldiers, policemen, functionaires, etc. unarmed. They are also so saddled with other “non-threatening appearance” orders, they are often murdered before they can get to something to defend themselves with. ROEs are a joke as is Obama’s plan.

For Libya, a country whose ‘revolution’ was organized by Obama and led from behind, a brotherhood Muslim state so sympathetic to Obama, a state ‘devoid’ of Al Qaeda (because the one shot Osama), the very existence of a gun in American hands would be the supreme insult. Obama was about bowing and cowtowing. He wasn’t about protection.

That’s everyone’s jobs - to take the bullet, fall on the sword for his magnificient one-ness.

So, OPTICS....it was the optics.


13 posted on 10/30/2012 2:44:18 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Because of the Left's default resort of being Politically Correct in all cases; their misguided attempts at not "offending" those who appear to be in charge in Libya--or are influenced thereby--elements of Islamic Jihadist; and in an effort to advance their false narrative that since Dear Leader had wasted OBL, all of AQ (who they consider the only organization/group that is a threat) has been decimated and neutered.

These 3 elements created a scenario for the "perfect storm" or devastating attack, if you will.

This Regime is guilty of wantonly disregarding the safety of our Embassy personnel (much as it has been with its ROE's toward our Military in AfGan) for the sake of appeasing/defending/supporting all things Islam.

May they all (Obama, Hillary, Panetta, Dempsey, Jarrett, et al, who are complicit and guilty) rot in Hell!!!

14 posted on 10/30/2012 2:51:07 AM PDT by neveralib
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To: Gaffer
......So, OPTICS....it was the optics.

This "fog of war" bs is the last gasp of Obama's smoke and mirrors crowing about "mission accomplished."

15 posted on 10/30/2012 2:58:58 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The most logical conclusion is that Obama/Clinton
wanted the Ambassador either DEAD or held to be
traded for Obama’s Blind Sheik.

In addition, Obama could give more CIA- and other
intel to al Qaeda (the DNC/Obama way).


16 posted on 10/30/2012 4:29:03 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I’m glad to see a Wa state paper picking stuff like this up. I hope to see more, especially like what we are seeing here on FR.


17 posted on 10/30/2012 5:34:33 AM PDT by freebird5850 (Americans died, Hillary tried, Barry lied.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
White House attempts to downplay and deny the terrorism that persists out there caused the deaths. White House failed to be prepared!

Terrorism from Islam will not go away until it is BEATEN BACK as the world did successfully centuries ago. Google "Charles Martel".

18 posted on 10/30/2012 7:26:02 AM PDT by Rapscallion ( Has the House Judiciary Committee also gone AWOL?)
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To: Vendome

That’s the way its shaping up.


19 posted on 10/30/2012 9:12:38 AM PDT by Rich21IE
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“conspicuous” ?? a guard tower? Yeah, probably way more conspicuous than that American flag flying out front. Not to mention those black Suburbans? No Americans here just us private contractors——————Can you believe the petty krap that floats in the heads of Obamuzzie’s bunch? I’m pretty sure the CIA knows how to stay out of sight but Hillary can’t keep both sides of her butt under the same shade tree.


20 posted on 10/30/2012 10:11:20 AM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“Why did the Benghazi Security Fall Short?”

The question should be:

“Why did the Benghazi Attack Response Fall Short?”

For a SECDEF to recommend to the president to not attempt a rescue of an American Ambassador being killed, along with three others is disturbing.

Future scenarios:

Ambassador to Indonesia: “Mr. President, we are being attacked!”
President (looks over at SECDEF who immediately looks up from political poll spreadsheet he was reading and then up to oval office ceiling at stress crack) “Uh,..Mr. Ambassador,..what ever happens after I hang up this phone,..I assure you, we will fix it. Forward!” (puts fist in air)
Communications Officer: “Nice body language sir, especially the fist.”
President: “Did you get that on a pic?”
Communications Officer: “Of course, sir.”
Scheduler: “Mr President,...Soros on line 2. About Wisconsin.”
(President sighs.)


21 posted on 10/30/2012 11:03:34 AM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?" "Because it's judgment that defeats us.")
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