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BREAKING: 50 homes destroyed in 6-alarm fire in Queens (Breezy Point, NY)
ABC News - Channel 7 - WABC New York ^ | October 30, 2012 | WABC New York

Posted on 10/30/2012 1:30:15 AM PDT by LibertyRocks

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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

Yep, that’s what I’m reading now... between 80 and 100 homes destroyed just in that area... Frightening to try and comprehend that alone - besides all of the other damage to various areas, and landmarks, and such all along the coast, and even inland in some areas. Just devastating... My heart goes out to everyone because even if your home was unaffected every other aspect of life in the city, and especially in New Jersey is definitely not...


51 posted on 10/30/2012 9:47:33 AM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: toolman1401

Even flooded and power “turned off” there are still ignition sources. Cable lines can carry some power as do phone and data lines. Lightening or a hot power line miles away that falls on a TV cable line can also energize a cable line.

Gas is very easy to ignite, even a static elect spark is enough to do it.


52 posted on 10/30/2012 10:07:41 AM PDT by wrench
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To: LibertyRocks

Lots of retirees there...hope all got out safely.

It was a nightmare scenario...folks in a high rise apt. building isolated by water, next to a burning building tossing embers onto their roof!

Many retired FDNY and NYPD live there.

God be with them all, and all those who lost their homes and belongings.

This is bigger than Katrina.

Let’s see how good Obama does...after all his criticism of Bush.


53 posted on 10/30/2012 10:31:18 AM PDT by miserare
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To: LibertyRocks

It sounds like some kind of nuclear war, end of the world sci-fi movie.

Must feel like it, too.

My oldest daughter was considering grad school in NYC but ended up in CA instead. Good thing, too.

Of course, with the way I watch the weather, I would have insisted she pull out ahead of time, just in case. But she knows quite a few people still there. She said they were proud of the fact that they had prepped for the storm and had food and water for a few days, but that is not going to be nearly enough. There are a lot of people who are going to have to leave because no food, no water, no electric, no services, and the problem is, no transportation, flooded roads, flooded subways, last I heard Amtrack quit running, airport is probably still closed. About all that’s left is feet or bikes.

And where are all those people going to go and how are they going to eat and survive until they get there?

I don’t think they’ve begun to see the worst there.


54 posted on 10/30/2012 12:37:55 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Beach_Babe
119th nursing home is a gas leak ... fire(s) on 116th ... some other fires are rekindling ... 7-storey bldg on boardwalk at 123 st has odor of gas ... I have friends in that bldg! ... my brother is in next bldg!!!

I hope your brother and friends were helped! Please let us know, Beach_Babe.

55 posted on 10/30/2012 3:14:21 PM PDT by arasina (Communism is EVIL. So there.)
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To: LibertyRocks

'the boards' are no more ...


but our flag still flies ...


sections of boardwalk halfway down Beach 121


not all of Breezy burned down --- note: Bob Turner, the Republican who replaced Anthony Weiner, lost his home in the fire


I'm not sure what street this is ...


200 block of 129th ... that's St. Francis DeSales school on the left


Harbor Light is gone (130th & Newport) ... the owner, Bernie Heeran, lost his son Charlie on 9/11


another view of Harbor Light ... note: this is within feet of where AA Flight 587 crashed


looking west from 102nd ... boardwalk, playground, and Shore Front Parkway missing


Fulton Walk, Breezy Point


Breezy Point - It appears the fire was between Ocean Ave and Kildare Walk. Basically the "heart" of Breezy Point.

Only traffic 'out' is via Marine Park Bridge ... no traffic allowed in. National Guard assembling in Broad Channel, generators being readied. That's all for now.

56 posted on 10/30/2012 3:41:46 PM PDT by Beach_Babe
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To: Beach_Babe

with just 4 billion dollars per day, Obama can fix that. He’ll use union labor, designate it as housing for middle income, provide tax incentives for minority biz owner constructors, do an environmental study, and in 8 short years, the place will be good as new...


57 posted on 10/30/2012 3:46:41 PM PDT by Professional
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To: Beach_Babe

Wonderful pictures.

Thanks.

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58 posted on 10/30/2012 3:58:54 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Professional
Thank you so much for your concern and well-wishes.

Braving the Waves

59 posted on 10/30/2012 5:38:30 PM PDT by Beach_Babe
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To: Beach_Babe
Here is a link to an aerial photo of the Breezy Point fire and devastation:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204840504578084550304936518.html#slide/5

(It's an AP photo so can't hot link; Wall Street Journal photo slideshow there, too)

60 posted on 10/30/2012 7:31:59 PM PDT by CedarDave (Presstitutes: Journalists who refuse to ask hard questions and who report by omission or distortion)
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To: Beach_Babe

Watched the video - blurry screen.

Those folks do so much for Wounded Warriors — We need to do something for them - let us know if there’s a fund specifically to help them out.


61 posted on 10/30/2012 7:34:48 PM PDT by CedarDave (Presstitutes: Journalists who refuse to ask hard questions and who report by omission or distortion)
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To: No Surrender No Retreat
I agree with you, the New yorkers are showing their true colors and will vote for soetoro regardless. New york is a soetoro welfare gimme state.

Not in that part of town. It's home to many firefighters and police officers and Representative Bob Turner (R) who pulled off the upset and took Weiner's seat. It votes Republican.

62 posted on 10/30/2012 7:43:01 PM PDT by NYRepublican72
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To: metmom

It sounds like some kind of nuclear war, end of the world sci-fi movie.

Must feel like it, too.


I live over 1100 miles from where it made landfall, and we’re feeling the effects of it today. Wind gusts 45-50 mph.


63 posted on 10/30/2012 8:11:57 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: LibertyRocks

Good Question. It depends on what caused the damage first. For example, if the flood had already destroyed the house, then it doesn’t matter what else happened. If the the house wasn’t destroyed by the flood and fire ensued, then fire is the cause of loss. You can also say the wind caused the power lines to arc or blow over and that caused the fire. Wind is a covered loss in most areas. This was an issue in Katrina and also in the last two big Earthquakes in California when the argument was over if wind caused the damage in Katrina before flooding, or if the fires caused the damage in California instead of the earthquake. The Earthquake caused gas mains to rupture, but the fire caused the loss, so in many cases, Homeowners policies protected the owners. You can bet the Insurance companies will argue the homes were already effectively destroyed by the flood first.


64 posted on 10/31/2012 3:49:16 AM PDT by juma (What i s the real answer ? Does anyone Know ?)
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To: LibertyRocks

Do not need to look at doctored video footage. 30 years in LE experience has taught me to recognize a arson scam easily. Too bad, you get duped so easily and those states will just vote for soetoro anyway.


65 posted on 10/31/2012 5:33:57 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: LibertyRocks

No hatred, just reality. Sorry you cannot handle the truth.:)


66 posted on 10/31/2012 5:35:31 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: Beach_Babe

If you say So?????????????????????????????????????


67 posted on 10/31/2012 5:36:39 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: toolman1401

Hey Brother, you cannot educate those, who prefer to remain ignorant and colluding to collect insurance money. I have to laugh at some of the mindless troll supporters here on the FB. These folks read their insurance policies and decided to contact “Quido” for some for some preservation insurance called A-R-S-O-N in my opinion.


68 posted on 10/31/2012 5:41:41 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: metmom

I cannot, you are standing in the doorway princess. Just make sure you pull that lever for soetoro. Do what you have been taught in the commune as best. :)


69 posted on 10/31/2012 5:44:35 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

Gotta get the insurance money, by any means necessary. I guess the peeps in those states affected, have never heard of disaster preparedness 101? I do not like to see any people suffer, but sometimes you bring it on yourself. Preparation is the key to survive any potential disaster.I thought by now some of the poeple, unlike the 47%(s) would learn the government cannot do all things for you in life. In closing, one can only remember Katrina where the 47(s) remained in public housing when told to evacuate. Ignorance is bliss to liberal fools who, are dependent on those of us who work for a living.


70 posted on 10/31/2012 5:53:15 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: Albion Wilde

Unfortunately Albion, this is America, and unless I woke up in Russia today I will have me say in this matter. You have your facts wrong, new york, new jersey and california will always go democrat. The reason is all those little perks the elected officials promise, but fail to deliver. It is like being a heroin addict, one taste does it all. For it is a shame and history has been forgotten by many in those states. Rugged self individualism will get you through most anything in life. We down here in the South are frequently graced with hurricanes far superior than a Cat 1 and or severe storm weather. We all pull ourselves up by our own boot-straps, with the exception of the government womb to tomb 47 %(s). Life is not fair, “Right Jimah????”


71 posted on 10/31/2012 6:03:52 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: NYRepublican72

Good to see sane Americans in that area. Thank you for the info. I served with some great soldiers from NY in my military career.


72 posted on 10/31/2012 6:08:32 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: Beach_Babe

Cheap materials in building and union contractors often produce poor construction &durablity when severe weather occurs.


73 posted on 10/31/2012 6:11:02 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: No Surrender No Retreat

Only an bigoted, ignorant, red-neck would presume that if someone lived in NY they were by default liberal, and deserved what they got. Sadly I’ve seen too much of that mentality on FR lately from DU trolls.

They must be really cheering you on.


75 posted on 10/31/2012 6:33:27 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: chessplayer

I live in CNY and am still not sure we’re going to see ANYTHING of note from the storm.

It’s mostly been overcast but we did have a beautiful, clear, moonlit night night before last and the sun has actually peeped out a couple times.

We’ve had some rain and some wind gusts but absolutely NOTHING out of the ordinary for NYS fall weather. It’s been very typical for this time of year and if it weren’t for the media, I’d have no idea that anything significant happened.

Go figure.


76 posted on 10/31/2012 6:39:42 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: CedarDave

Thanks .. the photo(s) are amazing.


77 posted on 10/31/2012 7:52:53 AM PDT by Beach_Babe
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To: CedarDave

Yeah, some very special people live in the Rockaways. The Graybeards have a donation page for anyone who wishes to help out with expenses related to the Wounded Warrior Project: http://www.graybeards.com


78 posted on 10/31/2012 8:02:55 AM PDT by Beach_Babe
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To: No Surrender No Retreat

Do you really think the video footage in post 43 is doctored?


79 posted on 10/31/2012 8:29:28 AM PDT by Beach_Babe
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To: No Surrender No Retreat

As posts 56 and 62 pointed out, that area votes Republican. Leave the broad generalizations about the Jersey shore to those who live or vacation there. The devastation in that town is a tragedy, no matter what kind of American citizens lived there. Have a little respect.


80 posted on 10/31/2012 8:35:51 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (If God can send millions of ordinary folks to preserve a chicken store, He can fix this mess.)
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To: Beach_Babe

Tragic. Thank you for the photos. This must be a great loss to you — so sorry. Round up your Republican friends and get them involved in the renewal of the town. Be sure to mark out a space for a church to be built — most “new developments” omit that to chase the top dollar — but churches help communities in so many ways.


81 posted on 10/31/2012 8:45:03 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (If God can send millions of ordinary folks to preserve a chicken store, He can fix this mess.)
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To: No Surrender No Retreat
Gotta get the insurance money, by any means necessary. I guess the peeps in those states affected, have never heard of disaster preparedness 101? I do not like to see any people suffer, but sometimes you bring it on yourself. Preparation is the key to survive any potential disaster.I thought by now some of the poeple, unlike the 47%(s) would learn the government cannot do all things for you in life. In closing, one can only remember Katrina where the 47(s) remained in public housing when told to evacuate. Ignorance is bliss to liberal fools who, are dependent on those of us who work for a living.

Dude, you need a reality check. Breezy Point is not a 47% area. Not every inch of New York City votes Democrat. In fact, some of the hardest hit areas (Staten Island, Breezy Point) are Republican parts of the city.

82 posted on 10/31/2012 8:52:24 AM PDT by NYRepublican72
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To: NYRepublican72

Got your “dude” hanging good buddy. Likes like (ny ny) is seeking another govt bailout like the one back in the early seventies. I analyzed those lucrative retirement packages in the municipal, county and state govt systems. My analysis is simple, highly over paid people on the sundry govt tits, retiring and coming down South to live.


83 posted on 10/31/2012 10:01:04 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: Beach_Babe

I am here you are there! So your the expert, tell me???? Actually Beach_babe, I do not need a “new york Palooka” telling me anything. :)


84 posted on 10/31/2012 10:18:38 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: metmom

I’ll have you know I live in a nice double wide on stilts and drive a pickup truck, drink PBR beer, got a 9th grade education and still think the South won the war. Funny how you stereotype a person, but that is ok. I could expect no less from a ny palooka.:)


85 posted on 10/31/2012 10:23:09 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: No Surrender No Retreat
I’ll have you know I live in a nice double wide on stilts and drive a pickup truck, drink PBR beer, got a 9th grade education ...

Oh, only you're allowed to stereotype people?

I'm from Rockaway, now retired to Florida ... I would have thought a crappy singlewide on blocks, drugs with an arrest record, a third grade education, and a beat-up truck but no driver's license.

Never before in my life have I met people who bragged about not being able to read while collecting their disability checks, don't know what a library is, and have never been inside a barber shop or a dentist's office.

Rockaway got through 9/11 and the plane crash, they'll get through this too.


STATISTICS UPON U.S. LANDFALL

Strength
Katrina: Category 3 (Louisiana)
Irene: Category 1 (North Carolina)
Sandy: Category 1 (New Jersey)

Top Wind Speed
Katrina: 125 mph
Irene: 85 mph
Sandy: 94 mph

Diameter (extent of high winds)
Katrina: 400 miles
Irene: 520 miles
Sandy: 940 miles

Storm Surge
Katrina: 14 feet
Irene: 8 feet
Sandy: 12.5 feet

Maximum Rainfall
Katrina: 15 inches
Irene: 10-15 inches
Sandy: 13 inches

86 posted on 10/31/2012 11:22:25 AM PDT by Alice in Wonderland
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To: metmom

Why would I care about what a person says, who lives in a state that requires no voter identification. Voter fraud runs rampant in NY and NJ. I could expect no less from a bunch of polookas and snooki inbreeds. I will alos like to add kalifornia to the least of no voter ID requirement states. A fair election might cost (some)their public assistance staples. :)*** Governor Christie is a great governor and hope to see him in Mitt’s cabinet.***


87 posted on 10/31/2012 11:22:39 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: Alice in Wonderland

Yes you will, providing you have the gumption to do so. I lke your response and glad to see someone else on this site, who enjoys a little funning. My heart goes out the victims of this disaster. They will regroup, reorganize and rebuild and hopefully the ones with some cranial intellect will do the fourth R. Vote for Mitt Romeny, who can salvage our economy and restore America to it’s greatness once again. Oh by the way Alice, How are things in wonderland? :) Wishing you and all the folks a speedy recovery from hurricane sandy. Sincerely,
John
John


88 posted on 10/31/2012 12:19:52 PM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: Alice in Wonderland

You’re pretty generous there.

I wouldn’t be giving some folks that much credit.


89 posted on 10/31/2012 1:34:45 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: No Surrender No Retreat

I survived Ivan and halfway through it, decided this is some pretty serious stuff. I have been in many a (emer:) situation in my careers, but Ivan was for real. The hurricane sounded like two freight trains outside my house and we had several twisters grace us, as well. I did not sleep that night and was glad for morning to come. We had much damage, but I thank God we made it through Ivan unharmed. We rebuilt and had good ole USAA home insurance, so all worked out for us. I hope all the good people affected by hurricane Sandy, fair just as well.P.S. Our local Co-op sent some utility trucks and workers to NJ and NY to help along with Escambia County Florida.
Respectfully,
John


90 posted on 10/31/2012 5:34:06 PM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: No Surrender No Retreat

I was dead serious, not funning. Florida is inhabited by some of the sorriest low life miscreants ever to populate the earth.

Rockaway has begun regrouping, reorganizing and rebuilding. Yesterday a Rockaway emergency group was formed on Facebook. Today there are 3,400+ members. Tomorrow my daughter leaves Florida with a vanload of bottled water, clothes, towels, toiletries, dog food, and three generators. She’s being joined by other former Rockaway residents from all points. The local Catholic church will be the place to give and get supplies. Others, with building skills and tools, are offering their services free of charge.


91 posted on 10/31/2012 8:57:19 PM PDT by Alice in Wonderland
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To: metmom
hehehehe....

Much to the chagrin of my Florida redneck neighbors I've looked them all up via the Clerk of the Court's website. The vast majority of them, both men and women, have criminal records. I spent 50+ years in NYC and don't know anyone who has ever been arrested!

Meet some of them:




I could go on, but you get the picture.

92 posted on 10/31/2012 10:08:32 PM PDT by Alice in Wonderland
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To: Alice in Wonderland

I used to live in Fulton, NY, redneck and welfare central. It was like living an episode of COPS.

They look like many of my former neighbors. That’s why we got out when the time came.

Yeah, I get the picture.


93 posted on 10/31/2012 10:57:47 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: No Surrender No Retreat

I moved to Florida in 2004 and almost immediately got hit by Charley, Frances, and Jeanne. Lost a lot of trees, had to replace my roof, had flooding, and went without power for two weeks each with Charley and Frances.

When Ivan hit the panhandle, I had a friend who worked for FEMA doing damage assessments. Talk about overpaid government workers! Besides making a fantastic salary they got free housing, food money, gas money, even dry cleaning money. I went up for about a week, stayed in a beautiful FEMA-paid gulf front condo in Destin, and traveled around with him looking at damaged properties. I saw water damage but no fire damage. Your theory that people set their houses on fire to collect insurance monies is pure BS.

Yes, there was damage but I can’t compare it with the pictures I’m seeing from Rockaway, from the entire metro area. They’re now saying 110 houses burned to the ground in Breezy. That was in a 3 or 4 block area. And that’s only a small section of the beach. Don’t be fooled by the numbers: Cat. 1 vs Cat. 5. You can’t compare the scarcely populated panhandle to a densely populated city.

Most New Yorker’s live in apartment buildings. I lived in a small building with only 72 families. Some have twice as many or more. And several building will be on a single block. That’s hundreds families in a very small area with no power, no water, no way to flush a toilet, no place to dispose of garbage, no heat, no stores, blocked roads, trapped where they are. Right now the temp is in the 40’s, is going down to the 30’s by the weekend.

Check out some of the Youtube videos being posted of different parts of Rockaway:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzL-MFbxgTc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hok220ROmUg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjYdm5PAVR0&feature=channel&list=UL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVO5sY_o26A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpRNT-If6Pw


94 posted on 10/31/2012 11:37:34 PM PDT by Alice in Wonderland
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To: metmom

I took my grandson ‘back home’ last summer for his first visit of the Big Apple. One of the things that made a big impresion on him was that people actually took pride in their appearance, they were well groomed ... and they all had jobs!


95 posted on 10/31/2012 11:46:22 PM PDT by Alice in Wonderland
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To: Alice in Wonderland

Anyone who won’t comprehend that there’s way more to a hurricane than category number has deliberately disengaged their brain and there’s no hope for them.

The impact of a hurricane on humanity is so dependent on so many factors that are not even meteorologically related, but some people simply cannot see beyond the end of their noses.

That’s what you get when people pontificate about matters of which they have no knowledge and sadly, we’ve seen a lot of that here on FR from people who you’d think would know better, or at least be willing to learn so they could know better.


96 posted on 11/01/2012 6:30:28 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Alice in Wonderland

Hey last word out. “AIWL”
Too bad, all you folks out there habitating those soetoro states got hit by Sandy. It was about time for a wake up call on the northern states for some severe weather.

I appreciate the fact, you even called me a “red-neck,” coming from your mouth, it was expected. I am sure if we did an academic and career accountablity analysis between the two of us, you would be severely lacking in all areas.
You reside in a state that totally restricts your right to self-protection and many of your elected officials have been convicted of crimes. I say fleas of the same will remain on the canine that provides free blood. I believe that is the “Parasitic Oath” (some of you people)have evolved in life.
When Ivan hit Ms,Al and La, we never saw assistance from any of your power companies, electrical workers and or public support. (FEMA was there for us) Texas and South Carolina sent many crews to help us. (The South Takes Cares Of Our Own) I am sure (you people)could have cared less about the people in our totally eradiacted ares hit by a much larger hurricane Cat 3, but really a Cat 4.
So you see, what went around has come around to your little liberal (totally controlled)faux paradises.
Possibly maybe (you peoples choice) soetoro will give you all a big federal bailout from all us hard working Americans. Vote buying is common place in NY and NJ.
In closing, Alice it is apparent you live in wonderland full of hatred for Southerners and others who, speak the truth. “Well that is alright and that is ok” and we here in the South will remain forever in a blessed way.
:) :) :) :) :) :)

My opinion is just important as your’s and you now have it.


97 posted on 11/01/2012 3:00:40 PM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: No Surrender No Retreat

boiled down.....screw ‘em

Amen

I know disaster volunteers who will never return to new Jersey. The people there were obnoxious and bit the hand out held to feed them.


98 posted on 11/01/2012 3:05:28 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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