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Romney victory would vindicate right wing smears of Obama
Los Angeles Times ^ | October 30, 2012 | David Horsey

Posted on 10/30/2012 6:52:04 AM PDT by Zakeet

It is impossible to know if Mitt Romney would turn out to be a good, bad or a mediocre president, but one certain downside of a Romney victory is that it would reward the most venal forces in American politics.

It only starts with the kind of campaign Romney has run. He and his "super PAC" allies used a mountain of dollars to produce unending waves of attack ads that swamped the messages of his Republican primary rivals, Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum. In the general election, Romney cranked it up a notch. President Obama’s own money machine paid for a slew of hard-hitting attacks against Romney that employed exaggeration and selective facts, but none of the Obama ads reached the same low level of deception as those put up by Romney as he zeroed in on the president.

Of course, disgustingly misleading attack ads have become ubiquitous at all levels of politics this year. Whether Romney wins or loses, that is unlikely to change. Still, seeing a campaign for president propelled to victory on so many outright falsehoods cannot be good for the republic.

That would be the lesser of the ill effects of a Romney win, though. Much worse is that the right wing’s broader onslaught of derision and lies against the president that began even before he took office would have achieved its goal. Barack Obama may, or may not, deserve re-election. But no man with as much decency as Obama exhibits in both his private and public life deserves the contempt that has been dumped on him by arch-conservative ideologues, talk show ranters and Internet goons.

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KEYWORDS: 2012election; campaign; naturalborncitizen; obama; romney; romney2012; smears; teaparty
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No man with as much decency as the Royal Idiot exhibits in both his private and public life deserves the contempt that has been dumped on him by you evil arch-conservative ideologues, talk show ranters and Internet goons!

1 posted on 10/30/2012 6:52:07 AM PDT by Zakeet
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To: Zakeet

The LAT needs to release the video before they are due an airing of any other issue.


2 posted on 10/30/2012 6:53:58 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Zakeet

Horsey Hockey !!


3 posted on 10/30/2012 6:54:15 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Zakeet
none of the Obama ads reached the same low level of deception as those put up by Romney

Tell me, David. Which Romney ads claimed that Obama killed his workers?

4 posted on 10/30/2012 6:56:35 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Zakeet

Liberals have moved to anger.

The second stage of grief.


5 posted on 10/30/2012 6:56:46 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved FrieGrnd Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Zakeet
"Obama’s birthplace, his paternity, his religion, his academic attainments, his citizenship and his loyalty to the country have all been called into question by people..."

So, did the LAT actually vet Zer0 on ANY of these issues?

6 posted on 10/30/2012 6:57:49 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Zakeet

” Still, seeing a campaign for president propelled to victory on so many outright falsehoods cannot be good for the republic.”

If I didn’t know better, I would assume they were talking about Obama.


7 posted on 10/30/2012 6:57:53 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Zakeet

As a resident of VA who has been subjected to a relentless torrent of thousands upon thousands of hateful and dishonest obama ads attacking the character and honor of Mitt Romney, I am astounded at the sheer chutzpah of this author!


8 posted on 10/30/2012 6:59:29 AM PDT by pgkdan (A vote for anyone but Romney is a vote for obama. GO MITT!!)
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To: Zakeet
But no man with as much decency as Obama exhibits in both his private and public life deserves the contempt that has been dumped on him by arch-conservative ideologues, talk show ranters and Internet goons.

This is just sheer madness. Bath house Barry's private life is overflowing with evil and sin. If the dirt ridden, gross details ever leak out or are exposed, it will make Clinton/Lewinsky look like a romantic comedy movie by comparison.

Moreover, Obama's public behavior has been chock full of treason, irresponsibility, contempt, lies, manipulation, abuse of power, avarice, hubris, malfeasance, and treachery.

Obama will be remember as one of the worst villains in American history.


9 posted on 10/30/2012 6:59:44 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Zakeet

This would not be written if the writer thought Obama was going to win.

This is a Hail Mary attempt at the race card.


10 posted on 10/30/2012 7:00:10 AM PDT by nhwingut (If you are concerned, you are not paying attention (or you are a troll). It will be a landslide.)
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To: TexasCajun

SMEARS?! You mean the TRUTH. Big difference...


11 posted on 10/30/2012 7:01:34 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Zakeet

I propose that Obama make all his personal records, and all the records of the actions of his administration public before he leaves office, so that everyone will know that all of these accusations were totally unfounded.


12 posted on 10/30/2012 7:03:47 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Zakeet

Quick, somebody call the wahhhbulance!


13 posted on 10/30/2012 7:04:42 AM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: Paladin2

>> “Obama’s birthplace, his paternity, his religion, his academic attainments, his citizenship and his loyalty to the country have all been called into question by people...”

Yeah probably because he just avoided answering the questions and when he did he just provided a forgery. Yeah we have a lot of reasons to distrust his highness...


14 posted on 10/30/2012 7:04:53 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Zakeet
...the most venal forces in American politics.

I thought this would be about public employee and teacher unions.

15 posted on 10/30/2012 7:07:26 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Zakeet
Los Angeles Times is an irrelevant fish wrap.
16 posted on 10/30/2012 7:07:49 AM PDT by detch
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To: workerbee

He will be remembered as being the only president in history that tried to sell our country to the Muslim Brotherhood. I wonder what his price is. If he moves out of the country after the election that will confirm it.


17 posted on 10/30/2012 7:07:50 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Paladin2

The left is really worried that their ideology is about the be soundly repudiated by the people.
They are attempting to deflect that repudiation from their ideology to their “first black president” in order to claim that it is a rejection of him instead of their worldview.


18 posted on 10/30/2012 7:09:59 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Zakeet

ummm... so Romney winning would be a good thing for Obama?

ok...


19 posted on 10/30/2012 7:10:05 AM PDT by Mr. K ("The only thing the World would hate more than the USA in charge is the USA NOT in charge")
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To: Paladin2

Is it a smear if it is true?


20 posted on 10/30/2012 7:10:30 AM PDT by the_daug
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To: jsanders2001

Telling the truth about a leftist or leftist ideology is inherently “hate speech”.


21 posted on 10/30/2012 7:12:02 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Zakeet

“SMEARS?” No, that’s what we saw on the walls in Benghazi.... American blood smeared and then about the same time O comes out with “his own flag” that resembles the blood smears on the walls .


22 posted on 10/30/2012 7:13:12 AM PDT by Ms Mable
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To: Zakeet

David sounds like one of those funny boys that likes to play “horsey” with other funny boys.


23 posted on 10/30/2012 7:15:35 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: Zakeet
Why would any major paper give a delusional loonie like this guy a platform?

Obama has run one of the dirtiest campaigns of the past 150 years. It just happens that his opponent is squeeky clean and he's not.

24 posted on 10/30/2012 7:16:02 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Zakeet
"Obama’s birthplace, his paternity, his religion, his academic attainments, his citizenship and his loyalty to the country have all been called into question by people..."

Thanks for reminidng me of these again. . .

25 posted on 10/30/2012 7:16:33 AM PDT by ▀udda▀udd (>> F U B O << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
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To: Zakeet

>>But no man with as much decency as Obama exhibits in both his private and public life deserves the contempt that has been dumped on him by arch-conservative ideologues, talk show ranters and Internet goons.<<

That sentence would be true if George W. Bush, NOT BHO was inserted.


26 posted on 10/30/2012 7:17:05 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: Zakeet

“It’s impossible to know...”
That won’t stop publication of an absurd newspaper story...


27 posted on 10/30/2012 7:18:48 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
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To: Zakeet
But no man with as much decency as Obama exhibits in both his private and public life deserves the contempt that has been dumped on him by arch-conservative ideologues, talk show ranters and Internet goons.

This writer has mastered the "Big Lie" technique well enough, to have earned a job at the old Stalin Pravda, or under Herr Goebbels as an assistant Propaganda Minister. The bold, but completely untrue, assertion replaces any actual background analysis of the Marxist demagogue.

If the man has so much "decency," why won't he simply release evidence--if any exists--to show that the questions raised by many as to his Academic "achievements," travel in his college years, and other unanswered questions, are in fact not valid?

For that matter, has everyone considered the heartbroken testimony of the father of a Navy Seal, who died saving American lives in Bengazi, last month. He describes a very different man than the propagandist in LA.

Consider the Rev. Wright involvement, with Obama ending up, out of his own mouth, to the Left of Rev. Wrigjht: Ethnic Politics--2008. Consider the arrogant idiocy from anything but a Marxist or anti-American standpoint, in Obama as a "Community Organizer".

The man hung out with the most vicious of the Leftwing trash in his youthful development; was at best only an An Accidental American; and has systematically employed Hitler's demagoguish methodology in his campaigns--including the focus on demonizing 1% of the population to rally those, who need to blame someone else for their troubles, to his banner.

William Flax

28 posted on 10/30/2012 7:19:08 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Zakeet

"But no man with as much decency as Obama exhibits in both his private and public life deserves the contempt that has been dumped on him by arch-conservative ideologues, talk show ranters and Internet goons."

Yeah, decent and dignified Obama needs to show that "bullsh*tting" lying felon who gave somebody cancer...

29 posted on 10/30/2012 7:20:07 AM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: SkyPilot

Most excellent synopsis, SP. Spot-on! He is an evil, evil man.


30 posted on 10/30/2012 7:20:44 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Ohioan

Leftists despise fixed rules because such rules disallow the “flexibility” that the “elites” need to transform society through their ad hoc decisions.

That being said, the whole resistance to looking into 0bama’s past is that they viscerally know that he would be disqualified under our “archaic fixed-rule system”, and they’d lose their great champion and advancer of their collectivist agenda.


31 posted on 10/30/2012 7:22:23 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Zakeet
My mother went unconscious last week from a heart problem leading to dehydration.

In the ambulance, when she revived she couldn't remember what year it was.

They her asked who the President was, she stated, ' that wicked, disgusting Obama'.

32 posted on 10/30/2012 7:22:50 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard
Tell me, David. Which Romney ads claimed that Obama killed his workers?

David Horsey and his type don't care about no damn stinkin facts - they 'feel'.... and they've got superior attitude and they drink the 'in' coffee. They roll their eyes at folks who care about 'facts' and 'proof' and all that flyover crap...

33 posted on 10/30/2012 7:23:26 AM PDT by GOPJ ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbOuxqK2T34)
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To: Zakeet
Romney victory would vindicate right wing smears of Obama

vin·di·cate
1. to clear, as from an accusation, imputation, suspicion, or the like: to vindicate someone's honor.
2. to afford justification for; justify: Subsequent events vindicated his policy.
3. to uphold or justify by argument or evidence: to vindicate a claim.

OK!

34 posted on 10/30/2012 7:26:20 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Winning is Everything.)
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To: Zakeet

I see this article as capitulation.

When the campaign’s support mechanism begins to make excuses for what they perceive to be a loss, they think it’s over.


35 posted on 10/30/2012 7:26:58 AM PDT by wayoverontheright
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To: MrB
What you say about Leftist motivations is correct. But do not fail to recognize that the subject article is a deliberate work of propaganda, employing techniques that worked for a long time for both the Bolsheviks & Nazis. People who employ those techniques are more dangerous than simply ranting neurotics or the "useful idiots" who parrot the propaganda.

William Flax

36 posted on 10/30/2012 7:29:57 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: nhwingut

Yes. I tweeted the writer that this column made me sure Mitt was going to win because it is clearly a loser a week out column.


37 posted on 10/30/2012 7:31:07 AM PDT by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

And, what they’re really worried about is THIS word, in relation to their ideology and worldview.

Repudiate
REPU’DIATE, v.t. [L. repudio.]
1. To cast away; to reject; to discard.
Atheists - repudiate all title to the kingdom of heaven.
2. Appropriately, to put away; to divorce; as a wife.


38 posted on 10/30/2012 7:33:43 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Zakeet

One last propaganda dump by the Loas-Ang-ga-leese Tdimes!

How sweet! Your tears taste like nectar LAT!

Keep enjoying your “biscuits of hate!”


39 posted on 10/30/2012 7:38:59 AM PDT by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: GOPJ
You are not dealing here with one of Lenin's useful idiots, who "feels," that the world is unjust. The man shows an aptitude, here. It is the aptitude of a Lenin, Trotsky or Hitler--a skilled propagandist. No the writer is not up to their level of demagoguery. But he shows "promise" in the promotion of Collectivist tyranny.

Yes, those who see this as almost a concession, have a definite point. But it is also an effort to create a useful Myth for future agitation; for future mob incitation; for an eventual moment such as Lenin & Trotsky achieved against decency & civilization in 1917, or their soul brother Hitler achieved in 1933.

Successful Leftwing revolutions always depend upon the Blame & Envy Cocktail. Notice how Obama, for instance, uses references to the 1%, as not paying their "Fair Share," and being favored by Romney, etc.. Because of the Leftist media, no one mentions the obvious parallel, Hitler's demonizing focus on the German Jews--who, not really by coincidence, were just under 1% of the German population.

Karl Marx in the 1840s, specifically recommended this tactic as a way to rally the mobs against a single enemy.

Yes, most Leftists are "airheads." None of them are really grounded in reality--that is so far as their social & economic theories. But they have had phenomenal success, since 1789, in playing upon the basest of human emotions. Thus hate becomes altruism & love, when explained by their propagandists.

William Flax

40 posted on 10/30/2012 7:47:09 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: ├čudda├čudd
"Obama’s birthplace, his paternity, his religion, his academic attainments, his citizenship and his loyalty to the country have all been called into question by people..."

Obama’s birthplace Alleged to have been Hawaii. Never definitively demonstrated.

his paternity Alleged to have been BHO, Sr. Never definitively demonstrated. Phenotypically highly unlikely.

his religion Called the Muslim call to prayer one of the most beautiful sounds on earth. Attended for 20 years a "church" dedicated to black liberation theology, pastored by leftist and confrere of Louis Farrakhan. Knows next to nothing about standard Christian theology--as demonstrated in his interview with Falsani

his academic attainments High school was a drugged haze. Occidental was Marxist revolutionary rhetoric. Columbia is missing and no one knew him there. Harvard is a mystery. No transcripts. The few published fragments, not counting the ghost-written autobiographies, are banal and are grammatical disasters. Attempts to uncover transcripts blocked by legal maneuvers at every step.

his citizenship Nothing demonstrated definitively. Attempts to uncover it blocked by legal maneuvers at every step.

his loyalty to the country His disloyalty more than amply demonstrated in his comments at fundraisers or abroad, by his attacks on business and religion, by his war on coal and other so-called fossil fuels, by his out of control spending.


41 posted on 10/30/2012 7:50:11 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Zakeet

The discovery of Obama’s official professional biography (”born in Kenya, raised in Indonesia”) already vindicated the “smears.” My guess is that actually a Romney win will be the opportunity the ruling elite desperately needs to sweep the Obama eligibility issue under the rug as a moot point.


42 posted on 10/30/2012 7:54:39 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: Zakeet

“But no man with as much decency as Obama exhibits in both his private and public life deserves the contempt that has been dumped on him”

W had twice as much vile contempt dumped on him


43 posted on 10/30/2012 7:58:43 AM PDT by y6162
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Obama victory could vindicate LEFT Wing smears of Bush

Oh, too late. That already happened.

What short, convenient memories these Liberals have!


44 posted on 10/30/2012 8:05:44 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: skeeter

He gets a platform because his cartoons are good. Liberals like the cartoons and even conservatives can agree that the art and the satire are effective. But the cartoons deal in stereotypes. Horsey’s cartoon success has gone to his head and he is now qualified to be a political commentator. I have to agree that he is as qualified as Eugene Robinson, Leonard Pitts, E.J. Dionne, Andrew Sullivan, Gene Lyons to name just a few that come to mind.


45 posted on 10/30/2012 8:08:11 AM PDT by Sicvee (Sicvee)
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To: Zakeet
But no man with as much decency as Obama exhibits in both his private and public life...

I threw up a little...

Decency? Tell me, is the sky blue on your planet?

Decency? A guy who has children sing him songs and uses sex ads ... Fast and Furious is decency? Really???!!

Watching the Obama administration is like watching an episode of the Sopranos...with out the laugh lines. (Not counting Joe Biden (he can be uncle junior))
46 posted on 10/30/2012 8:13:24 AM PDT by MeOnTheBeach
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To: fortheDeclaration
Mom's OK? Sounds like her mental state is fine

The Kenyan must go.

47 posted on 10/30/2012 8:14:10 AM PDT by ex91B10 (We've tried the Soap Box,the Ballot Box and the Jury Box; ONE BOX LEFT!)
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To: Zakeet
Too funny. Horsey'sAss did not like a 5 trillion debt under Bush but I'll bet he has not done an Obama 16 trillion debt cartoon.


48 posted on 10/30/2012 8:16:24 AM PDT by doug from upland (I don't like RINOs, but I love my country more than I hate Romney...Muslim marxist, get out!)
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To: Zakeet

Let me guess....the LAT endorses Obama.


49 posted on 10/30/2012 8:18:00 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Zakeet

Hey Dave!

Which of the “Obama smears” was wrong?


50 posted on 10/30/2012 8:18:47 AM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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