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Memo: Pennsylvania (Team Romney Moving into PA)
Mitt Romney.com ^ | 10/30/3012 | Rich Beeson

Posted on 10/30/2012 9:49:20 AM PDT by nhwingut

Rendell: "Startling upset’ for Romney ‘a possibility’ in Pennsylvania"

When Governor Ed Rendell made these comments last week, he was clearly sending a desperate call to Chicago for help in the Keystone State. At the time, his comments were met with derision and scorn from the Obama High Command who were feeling secure in their own predictions of a landslide victory.

What a difference a few days makes. Not only has Minnesota has been moved to “Lean Dem” and the Obama Campaign is up in that state with a significant television buy, but the Chicago gurus have heeded Governor Rendell’s plea and are buying television in Pennsylvania and sending the Vice-President in to help prop up their flagging campaign.

With one week to go, and 96% of the vote on the table on Election Day in Pennsylvania, this expansion of the electoral map demonstrates that Governor Romney’s momentum has jumped containment from the usual target states and has spread to deeper blue states that Chicago never anticipated defending.

In 2007, then candidate Obama said he would accept the Presidential public financing and its attendant limits on spending. We all know he broke that pledge and went on to raise $745 million while Senator McCain kept his word and ran under the limits of public financing.

Governor Romney’s strong fundraising efforts have enabled our campaign to compete with the Obama effort on a level playing field, helping us shape the landscape for this Presidential election.

As a campaign, we will put more resources into the target states in the final week, than previous GOP campaigns have been able to do in the final 10 weeks. The Romney campaign has the resources to expand the map in ways that weren’t possible in past cycles (without reducing any effort in any other target state). After fully funding the paid media effort, the ground operations and the voter contact programs, Governor Romney’s message of bringing real recovery continues to resonate with voters, volunteers, and donors.

Pennsylvania presents a unique opportunity for the Romney campaign. Over the past few years we have seen Pennsylvania voting for a Republican senator and a Republican governor, and Republicans win control of the State House in addition to the State Senate. The western part of the Keystone State has become more conservative (and President Obama’s war on coal is very unpopular there), and Mitt Romney is more competitive in the voter-rich Philadelphia suburbs than any Republican nominee since 1988. This makes Pennsylvania a natural next step as we expand the playing field.

While the Obama campaign would like to wish it is 2008, the reality is that they are now forced to “play defense” in least six states (Pennsylvania, Minnesota, Colorado, New Hampshire, Iowa and Wisconsin) that they once believed were “safe” Obama wins.

As the Romney-Ryan message continues to resonate and GOP momentum continues to build, we are adding Pennsylvania to the long list of states where we are expending significant resources in order to bring real recovery to the country, while continuing to implement and fund full-scale efforts in all the target states.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012swingstates; coal; pa2012; pennsylvania; romney

1 posted on 10/30/2012 9:49:21 AM PDT by nhwingut
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To: nhwingut

John McCain was the dumbest candidate the GOP ever nominated... and he chose an equally dumb running mate... who didn’t know how to run an effective campaign.

Mitt Romney is the opposite and he chose of the sharpest running mates in GOP history. He’s run an amazing campaign and after every one wrote him off for dead back in September, he mounted one of the most extraordinary political comebacks in American history.

His deserved win next week would be one for the history books!


2 posted on 10/30/2012 9:55:09 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved FrieGrnd Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: nhwingut

This guy Beeson — I don’t know much about him but I like what I see so far.


3 posted on 10/30/2012 10:00:04 AM PDT by Nervous Tick ("You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.")
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To: goldstategop

Wonder if this could be a ‘head fake’.

Whenever I hear of something like this, I can’t help but to think of when Bush & Cheney went out to California, while also doing a media buy out there in the latter days of the 2000 race. Had the same time and resources been used in say....FLORIDA, we might have had a MUCH easier time of it. We shall see in this case. For the past several elections, PA always seems just barely close enough to lure the GOP into spending money, to no avail.


4 posted on 10/30/2012 10:09:59 AM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Nervous Tick

Two weeks ago Romney’s people un North Carolina went up there


5 posted on 10/30/2012 10:10:34 AM PDT by scooby321 (AMS)
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To: fatima; Fresh Wind; st.eqed; xsmommy; House Atreides; Nowhere Man; South Hawthorne; brityank; ...

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6 posted on 10/30/2012 10:12:24 AM PDT by randita
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To: goldstategop
John McCain was the dumbest candidate the GOP ever nominated... and he chose an equally dumb running mate...

Easy now you will be accused of PDS. Speaking of Palin, where has she been? Her cultists thought any candidate who did not kiss her ring and take campaign advice from her was doomed. Despite her having a recurrent gig on Greta as the resident member of the peanut gallery, she has been invisible. Nice lady, solid conservative, good Christian and thankfully humble and sees the big picture and knows that she has about 1/3 of the country that likes her, 1/3 who could care less and another 1/3 who hates her. I do think part of her appeal was married white guys who had some Freudian thing going on..."Oh you see her, she can rock those 6" heels and say the name Milton Freidman in a conversation."

7 posted on 10/30/2012 10:13:32 AM PDT by pburgh01
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To: KoRn

The Romney team is making a serious financial commitment. The Keystone State is winnable and they have a great GOTV operation there.

All they have to do is win western PA and the vote-rich suburbs and they’ve got a prize no GOP presidential candidate has gained since 1988.

I believe the momentum in PA is with Romney!


8 posted on 10/30/2012 10:16:23 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved FrieGrnd Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: nhwingut

In 2004 I knew the “Kerry landslide” exit polls were crap because I had carefully watched where the campiagns were going for a couple of weeks and I saw that Kerry was spending all his time defending territory Gore won in 2000 and Dubya was spending all his time trying to take those states away. Yet the media narrative, even on Fox, was that Dubya was in a supertight race and could only win if the Swiftees succeeded in making Kerry a mockery.

While I am concerned PA may be Lucy with the football again, if the media narrative matched reality Romney wouldn’t dare shift anyone to PA that he could be using in OH. But if the early voting and absentee data we’re seeing in Ohio means what it seems to mean, Ohio is won and staff can and should be shifted.

Obama is on defense and his only hope was that he could look like Captain Awesome while directing relief efforts after an East Coast Katrina. Sandy wasn’t even an Irene, much less a Katrina, and “Look, he can execute the basic duties of an office he’s held for four years” is not a closing argument that will help when 23 million people are looking for work.


9 posted on 10/30/2012 10:25:37 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Reagan @ only 39/Mondale +5/Dukakis +17/McCain +3...panic is unwarranted. So is complacency.)
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To: KoRn

This difference is this time the Rs are flush with money - both the Romney campaign and the Super PACs.

I really doubt they think they have PA, but if it’ll help divert some of attention and time from the Obama campaign and possibly help our Senate candidate (Smith), it’s a good idea.

The true battleground is still OH, VA, IA and WI.


10 posted on 10/30/2012 10:27:58 AM PDT by JerseyRepub (I voted for John Kerry before I voted against him!)
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To: pburgh01
I was one of those married white guys who loved Sarah Palin (and yes, my wife is well aware of it) but she has fallen somewhat out of favor with me in recent months. I really thought she would play a bigger role in this campaign but has been basically on the sidelines. Her appearances on FoxNews have been disappointing, mostly the same old cliched observations. She brings nothing to the table that we don't already know.

That all said, I haven't given up on her totally. I would like to see her leave FoxNews and get back in the game. Get a talk show...run for senator or something. I don't think she's dumb but I do think she's wasting her talent and political viability at FoxNews.

11 posted on 10/30/2012 10:29:53 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: SamAdams76

This is someone who attended four different colleges, who quit half-way through her term as AK Governor and who couldn’t tell you why “Roe” is unconstitutional.

As for the guy at the head of the ticket, he never put up a fight for what mattered and told us we had nothing to fear from Obama. Even before the election was over, it was clear he didn’t like or trust his running mate.

No wonder the American people preferred Obama! One can say none of those things about Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney. They are definitely running to win!


12 posted on 10/30/2012 10:39:11 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved FrieGrnd Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: KoRn

PA could really be in play because of coal. I’d say that if there’s a head fake, it’s MN.

The important thing to watch, IMHO, will be campaign events in both locations. Who they send and how many people they speak to will tell us more than ad buys and memos.

BTW, let’s not forget Obama’s only hope is massive energy in the base. If he and the surrogates have to visit even a couple of more states in the last week to try and make that happen, their task becomes much, much harder.


13 posted on 10/30/2012 10:46:46 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Reagan @ only 39/Mondale +5/Dukakis +17/McCain +3...panic is unwarranted. So is complacency.)
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To: pburgh01

Yes, Palin is staying out precisely because she is far more humble and far smarter than even her gOP critics give her credit for. She knew the media would be eager to make her the story.


14 posted on 10/30/2012 10:48:59 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Reagan @ only 39/Mondale +5/Dukakis +17/McCain +3...panic is unwarranted. So is complacency.)
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To: pburgh01

Yes, Palin is staying out precisely because she is far more humble and far smarter than even her GOP critics give her credit for. She knew the media would be eager to make her the story.


15 posted on 10/30/2012 10:49:09 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Reagan @ only 39/Mondale +5/Dukakis +17/McCain +3...panic is unwarranted. So is complacency.)
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To: JerseyRepub
Big difference with the McCain campaign is that they elected federal matching funds and so were limited in what they had available to spend. As a result, Obama was able to outspend them by some ridiculous ratio in the general election - like 7-1 or something like that.

Wouldn't surprise me if we never have a presidential candidate request matching funds again.

Money aside, Romney is running a great campaign and while most of us focus on the ad campaign, Romney also has a huge ground game in place that is going to yield some great results. I read an article earlier today that Romney is busing in volunteers from out of state to do door knocking in states where early voting is taking place.

They are actually by-passing households that they already know is voting Romney on Election Day and concentrating on the voters who are not super motivated to vote. In contrast, Obama's campaign is concentrating on people that they already know are going to vote their way. So Romney is piling up early votes with people that might otherwise have not voted and Obama is "shooting his wad" now just trying to keep up with Romney. On Election Day itself, the hard-core Romney voters are simply going to overwhelm the remaining Obama voters at the polling places. Think Chik-Fil-A on a much larger scale.

Give Romney and the GOP a lot of credit this year. They have managed to survive a barrage of negative advertisements all summer long by the Obama campaign in which they could not effectively respond (unlike Obama, they had to spend most of their pre-general election money on the primaries) and they had the mainstream media not only not on their side but actively supporting their opponent. Yet when the general election came around, they were able to mount a formidable campaign nonetheless both in the airwaves and on the ground.

16 posted on 10/30/2012 10:53:34 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: SamAdams76

I agree with you completely...I think she’d be great at Interior or Energy, but if not she should consider the Senate. Begich is up in 2014 and Murkowski in 2016.


17 posted on 10/30/2012 10:57:46 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Reagan @ only 39/Mondale +5/Dukakis +17/McCain +3...panic is unwarranted. So is complacency.)
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To: SamAdams76

I think she’s trying not to upstage the candidate, which is good.

That said, yeah, I don’t think Fox has been a great venue for her. She’s at her best giving barnburner speeches, lighting up the base, and sticking a rhetorical switchblade into leftist stupidity when every one else is to afraid to do it. And I still hope she runs someday because I think she’s tough and has a good head on her shoulders.


18 posted on 10/30/2012 10:59:34 AM PDT by Claud
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To: Claud
She can really fire up a crowd and that's something Romney could have used more of this year (Romney's gotten much better in recent weeks).

Personally I think a national radio talk show would be perfect for her. She'd give Hannity a run for his money. Also, having a talk show would help her learn to think quicker on her feet and get her better informed on all the issues. I think this is how Herman Cain was able to jump to front-runner status last fall when she decided not to run. Cain had a radio talk show for years and it showed. He was sharp as a tack with respect to speaking extemporaneously. If he didn't have the bimbo eruptions, he would have been a contender. Just wish he had laid off on the 9-9-9 schtick. That was making him a laughingstock.

19 posted on 10/30/2012 11:05:12 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: KoRn

IMHO it is the absentee ballot data that has the Dems alarmed. In 2008 46,000 Dems and 47,000 GOP voters returned absentee ballots/early voting. In 2012 37000 Dems and 57000 GOP returned absentee ballots/early voting. If I were a Dem this is a very bad precursor to Nov 6 in PA. No to Keystone Pipeline and anti coal/anti fracking were bad decisions made by Obama. Now it is going to come back and haunt him in 2012.


20 posted on 10/30/2012 11:06:10 AM PDT by Fee
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To: SamAdams76

The ticket is a definite upgrade this time on both ends. Romney actually wants to win, and the only nervous time since Paul Ryan’s selection has been the first 30-45 min of the VP debate, before he adjusted to Biden’s idiocy.

Sarah was the best choice on a thin GOP bench decimated by the Bush years (the other alternative was Tim Pawlenty). Four years later you have good young dynamic talent (Ryan, Rubio) and she’s left wondering what could have been as a six-year, wildly popular sitting governor. At least she’s laughing all the way to the bank.


21 posted on 10/30/2012 11:44:04 AM PDT by JacksonCalhoun (CT Yankee in NC Exile)
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To: nhwingut

Youbetcha !
             

22 posted on 10/30/2012 11:57:42 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: goldstategop; pburgh01

Rendell said the exact same thing about McCain in 2008 in the final week before the election. He was insisting McCain had a great chance to take PA and he begged for more resources from the Democrat party.

Any Republican had a solid chance of defeating Obama. Most people want to vote Obama out, as long as they don’t hate his opponent. Most Republicans would have been able to do much better than Romney has been in the polls. Romney’s campaign was called the worst in history by Pat Caddell on FOX News before the debates. Romney had one great success, and that was the first debate. It’s a sign of how much people hate Obama that that one debate was enough to get people to accept Romney as an alternative.

Romney is no more or less dumb than Palin. Neither of them are geniuses like, say, a Dennis Prager or Mark Levin, but they’re about as smart as you’re going to get from a politician. Palin is a much better, more natural advocate for the conservative cause than Romney. And, while Ryan may be smarter than either of them, she put in a better debate performance against Biden than he did.


23 posted on 10/30/2012 12:28:01 PM PDT by JediJones (Vote NO on Proposition Zero! Tuesday, November 6th!)
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To: JerseyRepub

The more accurate way to read this news as far as I’m concerned is that the Romney camp thinks they might lose Ohio, and are now throwing whatever they can at the wall in other states to see what sticks. They have no historical, traditional, predictable way to win without Ohio. They have to win states that Bush lost to do it. And the polls aren’t providing them an easy or obvious pathway as to where they should focus.

On the plus side, they seem to have enough money to be able to afford to throw ads up in all the swing states. Hence you get money flying into PA, MN, WI, etc.

If they had a clear path to win, they’d be focusing on the states they need to win and not trying to “expand the map,” which would just be a waste of money in states they don’t need. It’d be much better to secure a safe win in the states they saw as clearly winnable. But since they don’t have that clear path, they have to spread money around all the swing states. They’re in a dangerous position and it’s a risky strategy.


24 posted on 10/30/2012 1:00:33 PM PDT by JediJones (Vote NO on Proposition Zero! Tuesday, November 6th!)
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To: KoRn
Wonder if this could be a ‘head fake’.

Maybe. If it is, it's a worthwhile one.

But I doubt it. The Senate race in Pennsylvania is a tie, and Obama's under 50% in PA. The current trends there are sharply up for Romney, and slightly down for Obama. There is a real possibility that there's some Mittmentum going on, and that's got to be worrisome to the Dems. given that PA has 20 EVs to OH's 18. It's also worth noting that the poll samples there have been very small lately, and, as with the general trend, the smaller the poll, the more Obama is favored. The largest (by far) current poll in PA is the Gravis, and has Obama at only +3%, and even then that's still only an 887 person poll. MOE is... 3.3%. And 20% of the Indies are undecided; odds are they'll break toward Romney. PA is probably in play right now, and it is a very worthwhile target.

Time will tell.
25 posted on 10/30/2012 1:01:33 PM PDT by verum ago (Some people must truly be in love, for only love can be so blind.)
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To: Mr. Silverback

MN is forever liberal. The only ad buys Romney people made in MN were in places near the Wisconsin border. They had to buy TV time on the MN side of the border. Romney is more interested in winning Wisconsin and I think he will. MN is not and will not be in play. The hardheads in MN don’t know what’s good for the state.


26 posted on 10/30/2012 1:06:10 PM PDT by Maryhere ("HE comes to rule the earth")
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To: SamAdams76

So, are you saying that the GOP-e was right? That Romney was the most conservative candidate who could win? I only ask because I am starting to think so myself. I cannot imagine a campaign being run too much better by any of his primary foes.


27 posted on 10/30/2012 2:14:31 PM PDT by BizBroker (Democrats know nothing. If they knew that they knew nothing, that would be something. But they don't)
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To: Maryhere

The thing about Minnesota is that it has gay marriage on the ballot. Between Michele Bachmann being on the ballot in the suburbs and gay marriage, every conservative and Republican in the state will be voting. Gay marriage may put Romney over the top.


28 posted on 10/30/2012 2:26:14 PM PDT by bort
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To: BizBroker
So, are you saying that the GOP-e was right? That Romney was the most conservative candidate who could win? I only ask because I am starting to think so myself. I cannot imagine a campaign being run too much better by any of his primary foes.

Considering the alternatives, I would have to agree. I can't see Santorum putting together this kind of campaign. Hell, the guy had to go home during the primary campaign and do his tax returns on home computer!

If it was Gingrich, we would have been more entertained during the debates but aside from that, we would have to kiss the women vote goodbye and probably be 10 points behind by now. Some Freepers will fight me on this but it's true. Gingrich as our nominee would have been a disaster.

I forget who the other candidates were - has it been that long?

Romney's campaign has pleasantly surprised me. I'm hoping that his presidency will pleasantly surprise as well.

29 posted on 10/30/2012 2:36:25 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: goldstategop

I’m impressed, I must admit. His running mate choice was genius and it seems as if his whole strategy was ingenius. His business acumen is showing as well. Americans like leadership and they see it in him.


30 posted on 10/30/2012 3:03:48 PM PDT by wiley
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To: JediJones

Wow do you actually believe this?


31 posted on 10/30/2012 3:03:57 PM PDT by TJC (V)
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To: randita

Not sure how I feel about this. Doesn’t seem like PA is a state Romney has a prayer of winning - every poll, regardless of the poll’s own bias, has Obama ahead by at least 4 percentage points. Seems like PA is completely in the bag for Obama. it is Ohio, Iowa, Colorado, Florida and Virginia that the attention needs to be focused on, isn’t it ? And furthermore, I’m not liking the fundamental appeal of Romney being that he is not Obama - didn’t really work for Kerry in 2004, why do we presume it will now ?


32 posted on 10/30/2012 3:53:06 PM PDT by emax
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To: pburgh01
[Palin's] cultists thought any candidate who did not kiss her ring and take campaign advice from her was doomed.

Cultists? How about using the term "ardent supporters" instead? It's much less inflammatory and insulting. "Kiss her ring?" You're being needlessly divisive and antagonistic.

Had Palin spoken at the convention, Romney would be in better shape than he is now. Instead, he missed out on the convention benefit that 0bama enjoyed when someone like Bill Clinton spoke. That could be a reason that there was little or no convention bounce for the GOP.

Calling Palin supporters "cultists" is a symptom of PDS, so you, at least, seem to be infected...

33 posted on 10/30/2012 4:20:30 PM PDT by sargon
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To: pburgh01
Palin won the country with her acceptance speech, then was the target of unrelenting attack from both the Romney camp / RINOs AND the Dems.

Her appeal was that she came from the grass roots, wanted much smaller government, US energy independence, and was pro-life.

If Romney operatives hadn't set her up with the Couric and Gibson interviews (Gibson lied through his foul teeth when he misquoted her, and when she questioned, said, "Exact quote" over the top of his glasses), and McCain had turned her loose, she'd likely have been the President-to-be in a week.

Not to mention "the thumping" with literally dozens of specious lawsuits which she was forced by state law to pay for out of her own pocket.

As it is, Romney picked a genuine movement conservative for a running mate, so maybe there's still hope.

But Obama may have Coward-Pivened the ecomony off of the cliff anyway.

NO cheers, unfortunately.

34 posted on 10/30/2012 6:43:41 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: JediJones

Cheers!

35 posted on 10/30/2012 6:51:16 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: pburgh01
Palin won the country with her acceptance speech, then was the target of unrelenting attack from both the Romney camp / RINOs AND the Dems.

Her appeal was that she came from the grass roots, wanted much smaller government, US energy independence, and was pro-life.

If Romney operatives hadn't set her up with the Couric and Gibson interviews (Gibson lied through his foul teeth when he misquoted her, and when she questioned, said, "Exact quote" over the top of his glasses), and McCain had turned her loose, she'd likely have been the President-to-be in a week.

Not to mention "the thumping" with literally dozens of specious lawsuits which she was forced by state law to pay for out of her own pocket.

As it is, Romney picked a genuine movement conservative for a running mate, so maybe there's still hope.

But Obama may have Coward-Pivened the ecomony off of the cliff anyway.

NO cheers, unfortunately.

36 posted on 10/30/2012 7:05:15 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: bort

And Photo ID is also on the ballot as an amendment in MN. That should draw out more conservatives as well....but GET OUT & VOTE!!! To all conservatives / patriots / Christians!


37 posted on 10/30/2012 8:32:18 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: JediJones

Look at the latest in both conservative and liberal news on OH. Romney is ahead in OH. He is slightly ahead in WI and IA and does need to put more focus there. The surprise is that he’s getting NV.


38 posted on 10/30/2012 9:24:28 PM PDT by annajones (Please Act)
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To: goldstategop
McCain wasn't dumb...just a liar...IMO he thwarted a solid pubs chances to run for prez and he himself had absolutely no intention of becoming president, and it showed....his half ass campaign....he probably had a wink and a nod from the rats to ruin other people's chance to ensure the dictator's chances....

Palin, btw, was the ONLY thing he did right...but he did it for the wrong reasons...he thought she would just be dead weight yet SHE drew the crowds and the money...SHE was the excitement....

if Romney can pull off this election, look back to Sarah and the Tea party....Sarah made us sit up and be proud....I'll always be thankful to her...

39 posted on 10/30/2012 10:14:00 PM PDT by cherry
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To: nhwingut
don't fall for these "aw shucks" Rats making us get all warm and fuzzy....its a trap....don't fall for it....

get everybody you know no matter where you live to vote and vote for Romney....

gitter done!

40 posted on 10/30/2012 10:15:29 PM PDT by cherry
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To: cherry

Without Sarah, McCain might have come close to killing the GOP


41 posted on 10/30/2012 10:17:10 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: pburgh01
you do know that the American Revolution was fought and won by 1/3 of the population don't you?....

but you're wrong about Palin......we women LOVED her....still do....

she was borked....and quailed....the rats are good at that what with their compliant media....

if Romney wins, its because of a movement started by HER....

42 posted on 10/30/2012 10:19:21 PM PDT by cherry
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To: JediJones

when you run your first Fortune 500 company or your first Olympics, get back to us with how smart you are okay?...


43 posted on 10/30/2012 10:24:26 PM PDT by cherry
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To: nhwingut

who knew that PA and Mich and MN would be “swing states”??

lol


44 posted on 10/30/2012 10:25:37 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: SamAdams76

agree...Romney was probably the best candidate as far as chance of winning....


45 posted on 10/30/2012 10:26:50 PM PDT by cherry
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To: cherry
The candidate with the best chance of winning was....

Ham Sandwich but he chose not to run for President.

He has negatives so low as to be unbelievable and an astronomically high approval rating.

46 posted on 10/30/2012 10:30:15 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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