Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

QP/NY Times/CBS Polls (O+5 OH, O+1 FL, O+2 VA)
CBS News ^ | 10/31 | Sarah Dutton

Posted on 10/31/2012 4:36:53 AM PDT by tatown

President Obama has maintained a five-point lead in the crucial swing state of Ohio, according to a new Quinnipiac University/CBS News/New York Times poll of likely voters. The survey found that Mitt Romney has gained ground in Florida and Virginia, where the race is now effectively tied.

Mr. Obama now leads Romney 50 percent to 45 percent among likely voters in Ohio - exactly where the race stood on Oct. 22. His lead in Florida, however, has shrunk from nine points in September to just one

(Excerpt) Read more at m.cbsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: poll
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-75 next last
Well at least we have an election in 6 days that will validate who's right and who's wrong.
1 posted on 10/31/2012 4:37:05 AM PDT by tatown
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: LS; Perdogg; SoftwareEngineer; nhwingut; HamiltonJay; Ravi

Ping


2 posted on 10/31/2012 4:39:14 AM PDT by tatown (Obama was right, it was a 'one term proposition')
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: tatown

I’d like to see what are the internals of this poll.

O up 5+ in OH? And he has small leads in FL and VA, which we know will go for Romney?

And this a a NYT/CBS poll, one of the worst out there.


3 posted on 10/31/2012 4:40:47 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved FrieGrnd Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: tatown

I need a good joke this early in the morning.

So other polling outfits pull out of Florida and Virginia because Mitt has them sewn up, but these guys think Obama’s winning them.

Uh, ok...


4 posted on 10/31/2012 4:41:59 AM PDT by Kingosaurus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: tatown

I’ve been predicting this would happen. The Lames would concoct more fake polling to manufacture a Zero ‘comeback’ to try to fire up their base and snooker idiot undecideds.

Can’t find a link to the internals. Anyone have the internals??


5 posted on 10/31/2012 4:42:25 AM PDT by ShovelThemOut
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: tatown

Non-mobile link: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57542715/poll-obama-holds-small-ohio-edge-fla-va-tight/?tag=cbsnewsHardNewsFDArea;fdmodule


6 posted on 10/31/2012 4:42:50 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: tatown

Sandy’s flood waters must be making those QP pollsters up in CT delirious. Those numbers are not believable. Romney owns FL - Obama has all-but left the state because of it. Other two states also at odds w/ other major polls.


7 posted on 10/31/2012 4:44:05 AM PDT by The Hound Passer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Kingosaurus

What do you expect of the NYT/CBS?

They are in the tank for the One. Let’s wait and see what Rasmussen and Gallup show when they come out today.


8 posted on 10/31/2012 4:44:19 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved FrieGrnd Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: tatown

These people are in for a surprise on Tuesday.


9 posted on 10/31/2012 4:44:19 AM PDT by mkmensinger
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: goldstategop

no way is my state leaning obama, I;m here and travel a lot and hardly ever come across any obama voters let alone any signs or stickers.

The media now only cares about an agenda, CNN has lost viewers, has beomce a joke and now a laughing stock and yet they still push their bias instead of doing their reporting and Crowley showed us all how she has no desire to do her job and CNN showed us after that how they supported her and how th emedia jumpd up when obama came up with his arrogant remark about ships and planes landing on them


10 posted on 10/31/2012 4:44:49 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: ShovelThemOut

Well I guess thats it.............some how these liars seem to jump right back in when proven disasterously wrong, shows no one pays attention


11 posted on 10/31/2012 4:45:01 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (bb)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: tatown

We’ll soon find out who’s right. Romney behind ohio by 5. Yeah right. And only down 3 in michigan. Again doesn’t pass smell test.


12 posted on 10/31/2012 4:45:37 AM PDT by Ravi
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: tatown

It’s the NEW YORK TIMES and CBS.

Anyone here that even remotely gives this credence should be banned permanently from FR.


13 posted on 10/31/2012 4:46:15 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ShovelThemOut

Florida D+7
Ohio D+8
Virginia D+8


14 posted on 10/31/2012 4:47:31 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: tatown

From a Jeffrey Lord article in the American Spectator:

A few weeks later, the Washington Post ran a story that confirmed Rollins’ initial beliefs. The Post confessed that… well… oops… it had made a mistake with those California polling numbers. Shortly afterward came the November election, with California once again giving Reagan a more than 16 point victory. In fact, Reagan carried 49 states, winning the greatest landslide victory in presidential history while losing Minnesota in — yes — a close race. Mondale had 49.72% to Reagan’s 49.54%, a difference of .18% that might have been changed by all that money that went into California. Making Reagan the first president in history to win all fifty states.

After the election, Ed Rollins ran into the Washington Post’s blunt-speaking editor Ben Bradlee and “harassed” Bradlee “about his paper’s lousy polling methodology.”

Bradlee’s “unrepentant” response?

“Tough sh…t, Rollins, I’m glad it cost you plenty. It’s my in-kind contribution to the Mondale campaign.”

Got that?


15 posted on 10/31/2012 4:48:47 AM PDT by ILS21R (We stand at the precipice, looking into the abyss.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: tatown
CBS and the NYT...doing their part.Cronkite and Walter Duranty would be proud.
16 posted on 10/31/2012 4:50:01 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Ambassador Stevens Is Dead And The Chevy Volt Is Alive)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Straight Vermonter

THANKS Straight Vermonter:
Florida D+7
Ohio D+8
Virginia D+8

Freepers, go to every media outlet that is publishing this crap poll and print these internals into the COMMENTS section.

EXPOSE THIS CONSPIRACY BY THE LAME STREAM TO MANUFACTURE A ZERO COMEBACK!


17 posted on 10/31/2012 4:50:28 AM PDT by ShovelThemOut
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: tatown

Presidential race just got tighter in election ground zero — Ohio
By Jonathan Easley - 10/29/12 06:06 PM ET

One week from Election Day, the presidential race has tightened dramatically in Ohio, which appears more likely than any other state to decide who will win the White House.

A Rasmussen Reports survey released Monday shows Mitt Romney overtaking President Obama in Ohio for the first time since May, with 50 percent support to Obama’s 48. This follows a Cincinnati Enquirer/Ohio News poll over the weekend that showed the candidates tied at 49 percent.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/polls/264731-presidential-race-just-got-tighter-in-election-ground-zero—ohio


18 posted on 10/31/2012 4:50:43 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Straight Vermonter

I thought so! They pad the D+ numbers to make Obama look good!

Bring those in line with Rasmussen and Gallup and you’ll see Romney is comfortably ahead in FL, VA, and OH. And MI is in play.

Even in the Democratic “wave” year of 2008, Democratic voter turnout was D+2. No way it is going to be +7 or +8. Not in the real world.

Throw this NYT/CBS poll in the wastebasket!


19 posted on 10/31/2012 4:52:01 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved FrieGrnd Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: Straight Vermonter

>> Florida D+7
>> Ohio D+8
>> Virginia D+8

What can you expect when you start with an Obama donor list as your list of voters to poll? :-)


20 posted on 10/31/2012 4:52:26 AM PDT by Nervous Tick ("You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: tatown

Nobody believes this bullshit.


21 posted on 10/31/2012 4:52:37 AM PDT by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: tatown

I have no clue how this election will roll out.

But I would guess that a poll like this is to set up the notion that if Romney wins these states, the outcry will be “they cheated” Obama was ahead and we contest this and want recounts done. A poll like this will be cired as the reason.


22 posted on 10/31/2012 4:54:28 AM PDT by dforest
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: dforest

I meant “cited” not cired. Too late for me. LOL


23 posted on 10/31/2012 4:56:00 AM PDT by dforest
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: tatown; goldstategop; Kingosaurus; ShovelThemOut; Straight Vermonter; The Hound Passer; ...
If Romney wins Ohio: we've got a crippling debt and deep budget cuts to make, 47% of the country who believe this stuff, and kids in public schools learning this kinda stuff from the MSM adding to the voter rolls from now till 2030 at least assuming we fixed education today.

If OBAMA wins Ohio: we've got a crippling debt and deep budget cuts to make, 47% of the country who believe this stuff, and kids in public schools learning this kinda stuff from the MSM adding to the voter rolls from now till 2030 at least assuming we fixed education today.

The other thread where Sandy victims are demanding the military be used to force the power companies to restore power faster is the real story about the direction of our country, not the polls in OHio.

24 posted on 10/31/2012 4:57:21 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: tatown

This is to cover the voter fraud when Democrat precincts show over 100% voted for Obama in “narrow wins” in these states.

Will Republicans have the courage to challenge the theft of this election, or will they moan and complain to the choir and do nothing?


25 posted on 10/31/2012 4:57:34 AM PDT by txrefugee
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: dforest

Gallup projects the national electorate with R+1.

Battleground projects Romney will win.

How do QP/NYT/CBS think the electorate will be D+8. How did they come with this particularly methodology?

And even with this massive oversampling in O’s favor, he’s tied in FL and VA and up only 5 in OH. Think about where he actually is and Democratic enthusiasm is nowhere where it was back in 2008.


26 posted on 10/31/2012 4:58:15 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved FrieGrnd Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: Straight Vermonter

OMG...

Face palm.

The MSM just doesn’t get it.


27 posted on 10/31/2012 5:00:55 AM PDT by GEC (We're not drilling in ANWR because....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: tatown

There will be steam coming out of my ears all morning until I can listen to Rush tear this poll apart and expose their purpose as manufacturing a fake Zero comeback.


28 posted on 10/31/2012 5:02:32 AM PDT by ShovelThemOut
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: txrefugee

It will probably be the latter.

You know how that is.

So far, Obama has gotten away with every America destroying thing he has done.

No wonder people are so negative about things.


29 posted on 10/31/2012 5:04:55 AM PDT by dforest
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: tatown

I love the way the candidates are referred to. “President Obama” vs. “Mitt Romney” and “Mr. Obama” vs. “Romney”.


30 posted on 10/31/2012 5:05:01 AM PDT by johniegrad
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: tatown

QP ‘s Dem push poll operation was set up by former leftist reporters from
CBS and the Slimes !

This awful dem party polling front group had Gov Scott losing by 6 pts on Election Day in 2010 !!!

QP blew that push poll and still get hired and never gets nailed for there awful pro Dem polls !


31 posted on 10/31/2012 5:06:10 AM PDT by ncalburt (Axelrod Psych OPS has gone to 24/7 non stop - "The election is over " status until Nov)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ncalburt

You’re right - its designed to show Obama is surging when nothing of the kind actually has happened!

When you play funny games with party ID alignment, you can create results that are not very believable.

The MSM will be in for a rude awakening next week if they believe their own polls.


32 posted on 10/31/2012 5:09:23 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved FrieGrnd Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: sam_paine
"Sandy victims are demanding the military be used to force the power companies to restore power faster"

I finally bought some 12VDC to 110VAC inverters (including a sine wave inverter to run the refrigerator and furnace) and a couple of deep cycle batteries to provide limp along capability when the power goes out.

Be Prepared. Quit whining.

(Don't live where you can't hook up and run a couple of cars to charge batteries.)

33 posted on 10/31/2012 5:12:45 AM PDT by Paladin2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: ncalburt

The CBS/Times poll in 2008 ranked 22 out of 23 in accuracy. Only poll that did worse was Newsweak.

The Pew Research Center and Rasmussen Reports were the most accurate in predicting the results of the 2008 election, according to a new analysis by Fordham University political scientist Costas Panagopoulos.

The Fordham analysis ranks 23 survey research organizations on their final, national pre-election polls, as reported on pollster.com.

On average, the polls slightly overestimated Obama’s strength. The final polls showed the Democratic ahead by an average of 7.52 percentage points — 1.37 percentage points above his current 6.15-point popular vote lead. Seventeen of the 23 surveys overstated Obama’s final victory level, while four underestimated it. Only two — Rasmussen and Pew — were spot on.

Here is the list –

1T. Rasmussen (11/1-3)**

1T. Pew (10/29-11/1)**

3. YouGov/Polimetrix (10/18-11/1)

4. Harris Interactive (10/20-27)

5. GWU (Lake/Tarrance) (11/2-3)*

6T. Diageo/Hotline (10/31-11/2)*

6T. ARG (10/25-27)*

8T. CNN (10/30-11/1)

8T. Ipsos/McClatchy (10/30-11/1)

10. DailyKos.com (D)/Research 2000 (11/1-3)

11. AP/Yahoo/KN (10/17-27)

12. Democracy Corps (D) (10/30-11/2)

13. FOX (11/1-2)

14. Economist/YouGov (10/25-27)

15. IBD/TIPP (11/1-3)

16. NBC/WSJ (11/1-2)

17. ABC/Post (10/30-11/2)

18. Marist College (11/3)

19. CBS (10/31-11/2)

20. Gallup (10/31-11/2)

21. Reuters/ C-SPAN/ Zogby (10/31-11/3)

22. CBS/Times (10/25-29)

23. Newsweek (10/22-23)

http://blog.chron.com/txpotomac/2008/11/the-list-which-presidential-polls-were-most-accurate/


34 posted on 10/31/2012 5:13:20 AM PDT by jimbo123
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: ShovelThemOut

Just drive my youngest to school and had the local radio on which has talk radio later.
They have just sed this poll to some what make it look like obama is winning, then they mentioned how Romney is coming to Jacksonville and then said Michelle big bum hypocrite obama is coming on Thursday and how you need a ticket, where to get those tickets etc.

So th emedia now makes a poll, oversamples too much and then the poll is picked up by other outlets and they ruin with it.

We should ahve marched on the media back in 2010, go to their HQ’s and demand they do their job and stop being bias.

I;m sending mail to all the local media here and calling them, I;m so fed up of them ignoring the biggest cover up in history of our country and then lie for their messiah.


35 posted on 10/31/2012 5:14:25 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: tatown

LOL

Funny stuff there NYT


36 posted on 10/31/2012 5:17:10 AM PDT by snarkytart
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ShovelThemOut

Will do.... I posted yesterday about someone on FR saying a few weeks ago that as these polls shift to Romney, just wait until the week of, and there will wild swings back to Obama’s favor.... I am concerned that this hurricane can change things too.


37 posted on 10/31/2012 5:18:21 AM PDT by Heff (Half this country is that stupid.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: tatown
Florida D+7
Ohio D+8
Virginia D+8

There was a time when Quinnipiac used to care about its reputation as one of the premier public opinion polling institutions in the country.

Quite obviously, political fealty has overcome any remaining sense of honor they might once have had.

No responsible person who has paid attention to the mechanics of the 2012 campaign would predict a turnout margin for Democrats equal or greater to that achieved in 2008. No one. Not a soul. Not even David Axelrod, were he being honest.

The solitary purpose of polls such as this is to create a false media narrative of Democrat resurgence, in the hope of exciting Democrat voter enthusiasm, and leading to the unnecessary expenditure of GOP funds on states that they will in all likelihood, win.

And brought to you by the same people who don't want to talk about what really happened in Benghazi.

Six more days, people. Six more days.

38 posted on 10/31/2012 5:18:30 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Cogito, ergo armatum sum.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ShovelThemOut

Will do.... I posted yesterday about someone on FR saying a few weeks ago that as these polls shift to Romney, just wait until the week of, and there will wild swings back to Obama’s favor.... I am concerned that this hurricane can change things too.


39 posted on 10/31/2012 5:18:30 AM PDT by Heff (Half this country is that stupid.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: txrefugee

exactly
not only the media does these polls because of their bias but also because they have to account for the elfts voter fraud.

How will the media and the left explain that they were getting 48% in the polls but then win 53%.

We had massive voter fraud here last election and I’m beting it will be even worse and then the media would have accounted for that in their polls


40 posted on 10/31/2012 5:19:18 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: Straight Vermonter
Florida D+7 Ohio D+8 Virginia D+8

Laughable.
41 posted on 10/31/2012 5:19:51 AM PDT by snarkytart
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: tatown

TTIUWI !

(This Thread Is Useless Without Internals)


42 posted on 10/31/2012 5:20:35 AM PDT by Humble Servant (Work for the most conservative one in the race, and keep up the pressure.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: goldstategop

Where do you see +2? I see +7 in 2008 http://usconservatives.about.com/od/campaignselections/a/A-Look-At-Voter-Turnout-And-Enthusiasm.htm


43 posted on 10/31/2012 5:23:05 AM PDT by justice14 ("stand up defend or lay down and die")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: Kingosaurus

Yep, completed their polling three days ago and somehow when they release the results they don’t have the demographics available yet.

They are undoubtedly all skewed toward Democrats. One thing that probably can be taken from it is that Nelson will beat Mack in FL.

One thing that is interesting is how all states report more outreach contacts from Romney than from Obama. (Though not by a large amount, and I imagine the Obama contacts are more likely to include a dragging to an early voting poll with a free pizza dangled at the end of it.)


44 posted on 10/31/2012 5:23:49 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: andy58-in-nh

This push poll group was Set up by these left wing media operations to cook up dem party push polls !
The former CBS /Slimes reporters who set this vile organization were huge lefties !


45 posted on 10/31/2012 5:27:40 AM PDT by ncalburt (Axelrod Psych OPS has gone to 24/7 non stop - "The election is over " status until Nov)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]

To: justice14

D+7 in 2008? I don’t think that has ever happened. Every party has had a slight advantage or its been even in every election in the past.

Even if you grant the Democrats had such a huge advantage, Obama won only 53% of the vote in 2008.

I think the disparity back then was a lot closer than the 7+ you are mentioning.

In any case, this year is nothing like 2008.


46 posted on 10/31/2012 5:32:06 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved FrieGrnd Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | View Replies]

To: tatown

RCP averages polls, independent pollsters do a quality job and show Romney with leads between 2-6% in battleground states. Obama campaign asks for total sham poll from NYT to work the averages back their direction. Then Axelfraud goes on TV to exclaim Obama slightly ahead in all battlegrounds according to RCP. It’s a racket. Any basic statistics class will teach you that averaging good data with bad data will give you bad data.


47 posted on 10/31/2012 5:32:49 AM PDT by johncocktoasten (Practicing asymetrical thread warfare against anti-Palin Trolls)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: tatown

Reality to CBS: “I got your poll hangin’.”


48 posted on 10/31/2012 5:37:19 AM PDT by inkfarmer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: goldstategop

The link I posted says otherwise. It might be wrong, but that’s what I found with a quick search. D+7. Do you see something different. Please link.


49 posted on 10/31/2012 5:39:19 AM PDT by justice14 ("stand up defend or lay down and die")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 46 | View Replies]

To: tatown

While I definitely would have preferred to have seen movement towards Romney, at this point, I will take the status quo in their poll as an OK result.

If the Dems do turn out by 7 or 8 points higher than we do, then they deserve to win, and shame on us. I don’t think that is even remotely possible though.

With a more realistic turnout model, even the NYT data shows us winning Virginia and Florida and close to dead even in Ohio, just like everybody else.

Not a bad place to be less than one week from election day.


50 posted on 10/31/2012 5:40:05 AM PDT by comebacknewt (Newt (sigh) what could have been . . .)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-75 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson