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White House shoots down rumors it nixed Benghazi intervention
The Hill ^ | 10/31/2012 | Julian Pecquet

Posted on 10/31/2012 10:56:01 AM PDT by PhxRising

The White House on Wednesday shot down rumors that President Obama nixed an operation to rescue U.S. diplomats under attack in Benghazi after former Republican presidential candidate Newt Gingrich made the claim on national television.

“Neither the President nor anyone in the White House denied any requests for assistance in Benghazi during the attack,” National Security Council spokesman Tommy Vietor told The Hill via email.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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Do you believe that Obama didn't deny the requests for assistancce?
1 posted on 10/31/2012 10:56:02 AM PDT by PhxRising
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To: PhxRising
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2 posted on 10/31/2012 11:00:21 AM PDT by CMailBag
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To: PhxRising

General Ham says he was never asked to intervene.

He answers directly to Panetta and Obama.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4W1LDSs5X4&feature=youtube_gdata_player


3 posted on 10/31/2012 11:00:57 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: PhxRising; Travis McGee; Nachum; Ernest_at_the_Beach; katiedidit1; hoosiermama; maggief

NOT good enough, but Newt Gingrich got their attention!

LOL.


4 posted on 10/31/2012 11:01:02 AM PDT by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: PhxRising

So, who did? The SECDEF, Joint Chief, nor POTUS is accepting the responsibility of the “stand down” order.

If it wasn’t one of these people, the person that did needs to be brought out and fired immediately.


5 posted on 10/31/2012 11:01:46 AM PDT by woweeitsme
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To: PhxRising

It doesn’t count unless Obama, Clinton, and Panetta testify under oath that there were no requests for help.


6 posted on 10/31/2012 11:01:53 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: PhxRising

Well they have been forthcoming and truthful through out this entire event, so if they say they didnt deny anything ,.... well that should be good enough for us./s


7 posted on 10/31/2012 11:02:38 AM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: CMailBag

Naturally we’re supposed to take Obama’s WORD for it!!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


8 posted on 10/31/2012 11:03:07 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: PhxRising

So a mission to save those Americans was not stopped by Obama’s White House, Obama’s State Department, Obama’s CIA, or Obama’s military. Just how did George W. Bush make that call?


9 posted on 10/31/2012 11:04:23 AM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: PhxRising

Well, Mr. White House, if you didn’t deny any requests for assistance, then WHY THE F*CK DIDN”T THEY GET ANY ASSISTANCE AFTER 7 HOURS OF BATTLE!?

All they got was murdered. Maybe that’s the request Mr. White House granted, their request to be murdered.


10 posted on 10/31/2012 11:05:16 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: PhxRising

This makes no sense.


11 posted on 10/31/2012 11:05:42 AM PDT by mom.mom
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To: PhxRising

I believe that this statement is carefully parsed.

It doesn’t exclude Panetta. Who enacts Obama’s orders.

Here is the basic fact - the standing orders were to save American lives. If a rescue mission didn’t take place, then SOMEONE gave the order to stand down. Which can only come from Panettta or Obama.


12 posted on 10/31/2012 11:05:55 AM PDT by kidd
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To: PhxRising

Attaway Tommy! The list of people going to prison adds another name!


13 posted on 10/31/2012 11:09:23 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: kidd

“...the standing orders were to save American lives.”

How do we know this?

Did the standing order include the authority to take assets across the border into Libya?


14 posted on 10/31/2012 11:09:40 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: PhxRising

“Neither the President nor anyone in the White House denied any requests for assistance in Benghazi during the attack”

Yeah, but I bet you did not approve anything either. Basically you did nothing and people died.


15 posted on 10/31/2012 11:11:25 AM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: onyx

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/tommy-vietor/gIQA4kmdAP_topic.html

Vietor, who has spent nearly his entire career working for Barack Obama, replaced Mike Hammer as spokesman for the National Security Council during a White House staff shakeup in January 2011.

For two years before that, Vietor had served in the Obama White House as an assistant press secretary under former press secretary Robert Gibbs. He offered the media the Obama administration’s official views, whether it was about U.S. relief efforts in Haiti or the Pentagon’s succession policy.

(more at link)


16 posted on 10/31/2012 11:13:01 AM PDT by maggief
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To: PhxRising

“We leave no one behind.” - Barack Hussein Obama (Does not apply to Americans being murdered by his Muslim terrorist buddies.)


17 posted on 10/31/2012 11:13:17 AM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: txrefugee

And “under oath” means what to any of them?


18 posted on 10/31/2012 11:15:34 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: kidd

In something like this, obama doesn’t have to formally deny a request. He simply does nothing and lackeys do NOT have the authority to grant or deny. So doing nothing is exactly the SAME as an order with no FORMAL order that can be traced back to ANYONE.


19 posted on 10/31/2012 11:16:32 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills and none dare call it treason)
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To: PhxRising

It will depend on the meaning of the word “deny.”

If he put up a “do not disturb” sign after hearing about the attack, he could use the word “ignore.” Is “ignore” different than “deny?” Of course it is, until after the election. /S


20 posted on 10/31/2012 11:19:19 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: kidd

Yes, I think you could be correct. This could all be set up on Panetta to take the fall. There were lots of stories that 0zer0 wouldn’t make the call on taking out 0sama, and Panetta essentially went around 0zer0 to get Seal Team 6 in the air and on the ground, and only then inform 0zer0 it was going down.
If true, it might explain why Panetta felt like he could take command of this situation also. Remember 0zer0 went to bed after the attack, so that shows 0zer0 (and probably Jarrett) thought this was just a protest, and as such 0zer0 voted “Present” when watching the real time video and getting real time intelligence. That would be expected given his narcissism and world view. Since no decision was made, that left Panetta to make the call, and he chose to stand down.
It just shows what a completely evil narcissist 0zer0 is. He let those people die, and then when it started blowing up, the WH went to full cover up and blame mode. That explains 0zer0 contradictions later when he said “When I realized this was an attack, I did 3 things...Gave an order to help protect our personnel, Ordered and investigation, Ordered us to hunt down those responsible...blah, blah, blah.” That only makes sense if he did this several days after the attack, and that would only make sense if 0zer0, during the time of the attack, actually made the decision that this was a protest, and therefore did nothing.
So in his twisted narcissist world, he can now say he didn’t actually deny help to the embassy. That way he does what he does best, look out for himself. He truly is evil.


21 posted on 10/31/2012 11:23:26 AM PDT by SDShack (0zer0care = "The Final Solution" - Socialized Euthanasia Healthcare)
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To: maggief

Thank you for the information on that tool/fool.

This is just nutz. Totally unacceptable.


22 posted on 10/31/2012 11:24:51 AM PDT by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: PhxRising

Who the hell did, then? Hillary? George Bush?


23 posted on 10/31/2012 11:25:14 AM PDT by expat2
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To: kidd

“”Neither the President nor anyone in the White House denied any requests for assistance in Benghazi during the attack,” National Security Council spokesman Tommy Vietor told The Hill via email.”

Hmmm, was the denier physically outside the white house?

(Sneaky weaselwords :( )


24 posted on 10/31/2012 11:25:44 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: PhxRising

A National Security Council spokesperson, eh?

No, that will NOT do. On the stand, right hand up, left hand on Bible, as is customary, and being broadcast, live. Nothing less.


25 posted on 10/31/2012 11:26:06 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: onyx

NOT good enough, but Newt Gingrich got their attention!

Another Newtron bomb. They took the bait, too. President Thinskin just can’t let any challenge to his royal weeness go...the storm would have kept this out of the public. What an incompetent boob. I’m glad Newt’s against them.


26 posted on 10/31/2012 11:28:21 AM PDT by jessduntno ("Socialism only works...in Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they have it." - RR)
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To: PhxRising

They are playing the “depends on what the meaning or is, is” ploy.

That Bing Dude on Greta said the WhiteyHut had to issue an “Action Order” to initiate, not per se OK or deny request. Very simple, Show the Action Order, will be end of story and Panetta gets the bus underside ride.


27 posted on 10/31/2012 11:28:55 AM PDT by X-spurt (It is truly time for ON YOUR FEET or on your knees)
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To: onyx

Got this e-mail from a friend. Don’t know the source.

What was Obama told about ?9/11 threats??

Wednesday, Oct 31, 2012

On the White House Web site, the president?s calendar for September 10, 2012 ? the day before the Benghazi, Libya, attack ? is blank and and the daily press guidance says ?The President has no public events scheduled.?

But the president did have an important meeting that day. In an e-mail exchange over President Obama?s record of skipping his daily intelligence meetings, National Security Council spokesman Tommy Vietor wrote me the following: I?d also note that this focus on just the PDB and not the countless other NSC meetings the President has each week really misses the point. For example, the President had a briefing with the Principals Committee to review 9/11 threats and mitigation efforts on September 10th. Seems like a relevant data point for you[r] piece. [Emphasis added].

The fact that ?the President had a briefing with the Principals Committee to review 9/11 threats and mitigation efforts on September 10th? raises a whole host of new questions: 

? What was the president told in that briefing about ?9/11 threats and mitigation efforts? in Libya? 

? The New York Times reports that ?In the months leading up to the Sept. 11 attacks on the American diplomatic mission in Benghazi, the Obama administration received intelligence reports that Islamic extremist groups were operating training camps in the mountains near the Libyan city and that some of the fighters were ?Al Qaeda-leaning.? ? Was the president briefed on those reports at the NSC principals meeting?

? The Times further reports that ?a week before Mr. Stevens died, the American Embassy warned that Libyan officials had declared a ?state of maximum alert? in Benghazi.? Was the president told of this assessment by Libyan officials of the state of security in Benghazi at the 9/10 meeting?

? U.S. diplomats in Libya made numerous requests for additional security. The president claims he was not ?personally aware? of those requests.Well, was there any discussion of those requests in the NSC principals committee meeting on September 10th? 

If the NSC Principals Committee did not discuss Libya as part of their briefing on ?9/11 threats and mitigation efforts,? then it would seem to be an example of gross negligence. If they did discuss Libya, then Americans deserve to know what they told the president about the security situation in that country one day before our ambassador was killed. And if the president was in fact briefed on the growing al-Qaeda threat in Benghazi a day before the attack, it would further call into question the administration?s efforts to blame the attack on a YouTube video.  

The only way to answer these questions is for the administration to release the records relating to the September 10 NSC meeting ? including any briefing slides or papers prepared for the meeting. Those records will tell us a great deal about what the president knew ? and when he knew it.


28 posted on 10/31/2012 11:29:47 AM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: PhxRising
You guys keep missing the word games that Obama is playing on you. Here is what they tell us (from the article)

“Neither the President nor anyone in the White House denied any requests for assistance in Benghazi during the attack,” National Security Council spokesman Tommy Vietor told The Hill via email.

Do you notice the missing word? Here is what they want you to infer from the quote:

“Neither the President nor anyone in the White House denied any requests for MILITARY assistance in Benghazi during the attack,” National Security Council spokesman Tommy Vietor told The Hill via email.

The fact is that "Security Personnel" were ordered from Tripoli to Benghazi. That's true. But there were no Military personnel sent. That restriction had to the result of the President's direct order. I have yet to hear anyone from the Administration but Leon Panetta talk about MILITARY ASSISTANCE with his lame excuse. Spokesman for the President and the President himself have not, to the best of my knowledge ever mentioned anything but the generic "assistance" which was, in fact, sent.

Just more Word Games from our Transparent President.

29 posted on 10/31/2012 11:30:19 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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Do you believe that Obama didn't deny the requests for assistancce?

I'd believe polar bears were native to Miami Beach before I believed that . The fact that they relieved the General that was trying to send help of his command says everything I need to know . As far as I am concerned Obama cold blooded murdered two Navy SEALS by relieving this General of his command while he was trying to send help just as sure as if he had shot them himself .
He's not fit to hold office , he isn't even fit to be called and American .
HE NEEDS THE BOOT AND FAST.
30 posted on 10/31/2012 11:33:28 AM PDT by Lera (Proverbs 29:2)
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To: MestaMachine
Obama didn't deny anything, he just voted present.
31 posted on 10/31/2012 11:35:00 AM PDT by tractorman (I never miss a chance to tweak a liberal.)
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To: PhxRising

“...by email”

How about a press conference where we can see your face when you say it?


32 posted on 10/31/2012 11:43:40 AM PDT by Sleeping Freeper
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To: PhxRising
“Neither the President nor anyone in the White House denied any requests for assistance in Benghazi during the attack,”...

Of course he denied it. These cowards are playing their usual word games.

"Calls for help" were received. At that point there were two, and only two, courses of action; provide help, or deny help. TAKING NO ACTION IS A DENIAL.

The Coward-In-Chief took no action and hid under his bed covers. Americans died. And since then his whole thugocracy has been lying and covering up. Not one has resigned, as any man of honor would have done.

Always remember; When Obama called the SEALs for help, bin Laden died. When SEALs called Obama for help, they died.

Obama lied. Americans died!

33 posted on 10/31/2012 11:43:44 AM PDT by DakotaGator (Weep for the lost Republic! And keep your powder dry!!)
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To: WildHighlander57
Neither the President nor anyone in the White House denied any requests for assistance in Benghazi during the attack

1)The President AND EVERYONE IN THE WHITE HOUSE SITUATION ROOM agreed to deny any requests for assistance in Benghazi during the attack! or
2)Neither the President nor anyone in the White House denied any requests for assistance in Benghazi during the THREE attacks! or
3)Neither the President nor anyone in the White House denied any requests for assistance in Benghazi during the attack, IT WAS TOM DONILON, NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR who denied any requests for assistance in Benghazi during the attack! or
4)NOBODY KNOWS WHO denied any requests for assistance in Benghazi during the attack, BUT WE ARE LOOKING INTO IT AND WILL GET BACK TO YOU AFTER THE ELECTION!
34 posted on 10/31/2012 11:44:17 AM PDT by Stayfree
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To: PhxRising

Well, if they said it, it must be true, right?

In other news, the White House announced another 52,000,000,000 jobs created in the last week.


35 posted on 10/31/2012 11:45:34 AM PDT by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: PhxRising
Shaun Hannity had an interview with the father of one of the dead Navy Seals, the other day, which should completely shoot down this denial of culpability. While the father refused to politicalize his testimony, he attributed his son's death very clearly to Obama.

That interview should be rebroadcast as a campaign ad on radio and TV, with an apology to the father for using it politically, because the sincerity of the father, over the terrible failure of the Administration, comes through very loud and clear. This needs to be done, not to make a political issue over the son's death; but as an insight into the despicable hand of the "Commander In Chief."

William Flax

36 posted on 10/31/2012 11:45:46 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: PhxRising
The bottom line is Obama denied our guys the support they needed to repulse the terrorist's attacks at Benghazi. Obama’s the one that OWNS this decision and no one else. Dereliction of duty and negligent homicide.

It's my opinion that Obama’s actual brain, Valerie Jarrett (the Iranian) told puppet Obama to deny assistance and go to bed because he had a hard day of fund raising to do in Las Vegas. Whether Jarrett's was a strictly a political decision or based on her Muslim sympathies, I don't know. One thing certain, Barry is incapable of decisions that are important. He is a puppet and an empty suit.

37 posted on 10/31/2012 11:51:48 AM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: ModelBreaker
“...the standing orders were to save American lives.”
How do we know this?

This is what a retired Lt. Col. said on Rush Limbaugh's show last Friday. The Lt. Col. was highly informed of protocol in this region of the world. Rush asked what the directive is in the event that the POTUS or SecDef cannot be reached. The Lt. Col. said that the standing orders are to protect American lives. Rush then asked the clarifying question: if a rescue mission didn't take place, then someone had to give the order to stand down. The Lt. Col. said "yes" and clarified that that authority rests with the CinC or SecDef.

But you raise a good point. The details of the standing orders were not presented. Crossing into a foreign country would seemingly be above what a regional General is authorized to do; this would also seemingly be above the authority of the SecDef. This would come from the POTUS only, but only with the consulation of the SoS.

Logically, Obama would have to give the authority for a rescue mission. But the authority to stand down and not offer assistance could come from Panetta.

Which is how the statement is parsed. Obama and the White House didn't refuse a request for assistance. Just as the statement says. However, Obama didn't authorize a rescue mission. Which is what is missing from the statement.

38 posted on 10/31/2012 11:54:10 AM PDT by kidd
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To: PhxRising

Lies, Damn Lies, And anything the Traitors administration says.


39 posted on 10/31/2012 11:57:12 AM PDT by uncitizen (Arrest The Traitor Today!)
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To: InterceptPoint

Excellent point...! Yes the Tripoli QRF were CONTRACTORS, not active military, so gayMuzzie can avoid lying about having refused MMMMILITARYassistance —civvies see tough guys with guns and they assume “military”. GayMuzzie DID send help technically so his lawyerly conscience is CLEAR.


40 posted on 10/31/2012 11:58:07 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: SDShack

“actually made the decision that this was a protest, and therefore did nothing.”

Yup! I always take my motor crew to protests!


41 posted on 10/31/2012 12:00:28 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: PhxRising

CHECK MATE!.... Who did then?...


42 posted on 10/31/2012 12:02:18 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: hosepipe

THIS has... and is going VIRAL.... Internet VIRAL...
Hannity KEEP IT UP.. O’Really’s goin Hammina HAmmina(Gleason) over this..


43 posted on 10/31/2012 12:07:32 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Sounds too similar to BO’s habit of voting “present” while in the senate. This is probably what happened here.


44 posted on 10/31/2012 12:09:55 PM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: Covenantor

Source: Marc Thiessen, Washington Post

“What was Obama told at the September 10, 2012, NSC meeting on ‘9/11 threats’?”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/post/what-was-obama-told-at-the-september-10-2012-nsc-meeting-on-911-threats/2012/10/31/4fda1f04-2379-11e2-8448-81b1ce7d6978_blog.html


45 posted on 10/31/2012 12:10:54 PM PDT by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: PhxRising

Well did they ask for help? Who did they ask, who heard them and most importantly.........who denied them? If Obama has a tape that supports his position, then lets hear it. We the people meet the payroll, FBI, CIA, MILITARY, WH, STATE DEPARTMENT, DOD, and any tape that is generated by those agencies, we own. Give it to us.


46 posted on 10/31/2012 12:17:12 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: PhxRising
“Neither the President nor anyone in the White House denied any requests for assistance in Benghazi during the attack,” National Security Council spokesman Tommy Vietor told The Hill via email.

Did he wag his finger when he said this? And did it begin with "Let me say this one more time."
47 posted on 10/31/2012 12:17:19 PM PDT by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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To: PhxRising

THE HEAT IS ON!

No, no way all the arrows are not pointing toward Obama and he knows it. We all know how self-centered he is, he is not covering for anyone else because he is incapable of doing that.


48 posted on 10/31/2012 12:18:09 PM PDT by Ms Mable
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To: kidd

the standing orders do not include crossing a recognized international border.

Obama himself had to make/approve that specific order. If he did not grant cross-border authority, he de facto denied help to the consulate in Benghazi.

That statement that they (the WH) did not deny a request for rescue is heavily parsed.


49 posted on 10/31/2012 12:22:44 PM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: ZX12R
“But I do take offense with some suggestion that in any way, we haven’t tried to make sure that the American people knew as the information was coming in what we believed.”--Barry Obama, talking about his "It was the video" story on Benghazi.

Oh, Barry. I am somehow reminded of the previous Democrat president trotting out all his cabinet people to vouch for him and to say that there was absolutely no truth to the rumor that he had been conducting in-depth presidential polls with an intern and had ended up wagging his finger at us and categorically denying what we knew had to be true.

It's become abundantly clear in this matter (and many others) that you are either dishonest or delusional; of course, as a Marxist, you would, almost by definition, have to be some of both: dishonest, because those who you are pandering to wouldn't support you if you stripped off your sheep's clothing of "hope and change" rhetoric and presented them the grey gulag of central planning you want them to inhabit; delusional, because the idea that a small cadre of committed ideologues has the necessary scope of experience and knowledge to manage the economic and social affairs of hundreds of millions of citizens comes from a mind that is tethered to reality by only the thinnest gossamer.

What you're attempting hasn't been successful generally in any social unit greater than the family in many hundreds of years. And the answer isn't, as you leftist ideologues proclaim, that even more raw political power be accorded you to transmute base humanity into political gold and retrofit us for YOUR idea of paradise. Sorry, but MY idea of paradise doesn't include someone like you in the government second guessing every single choice I make.

A pox on you, Barry.
50 posted on 10/31/2012 12:24:48 PM PDT by aruanan
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