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Judge 'Charged' With 'Theft' For Plugging In Chevy Volt Electric Car
Green Car Reports ^ | Oct 15, 2012 | Nikki Gordon-Bloomfield

Posted on 10/31/2012 6:12:44 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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1 posted on 10/31/2012 6:12:46 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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Smells fishy.
If he only has to charge once per week, why not do it at home?


2 posted on 10/31/2012 6:17:43 PM PDT by nascarnation (Defeat Baraq 2012. Deport Baraq 2013)
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87 cents a week for a full charge? Sure...


3 posted on 10/31/2012 6:20:28 PM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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They must have looked long and hard to find this story. I can find many more where theft is taking place. I have personally witnessed a Nissan Leaf plugged into the exterior outlet at Fry's in San Diego. The amount of electricity he stole was likely offset by the enormous basket full of goods his wife and daughter purchased to alleviate boredom while the vehicle was recharging.
4 posted on 10/31/2012 6:22:12 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: nickcarraway

Of course the Judge never paid for installation of a 220 volt outlet needed to recharge the electric pipe bomb.


5 posted on 10/31/2012 6:22:37 PM PDT by STD (“Cogito, ergo armatum sum)
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It’s okay, he’s a “circuit” court judge


6 posted on 10/31/2012 6:26:02 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: muir_redwoods

Now that’s an electrifying observation. I got a charge out of it, not to be confused with a trickle.


7 posted on 10/31/2012 6:29:39 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Pres__ent Resident NBC NRD N3pmCs HCR / no birth C / no req docs / no 3pm calls / he can read)
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Plan Name Plan Length Rate
FirstEnergy Solutions 12 mo. Savings Offer 12 months $0.0495 / kWh
EverBright Energy 12 Month Fixed Price 12 months $0.049 / kWh
Champion Energy Savings Champ-6 6 months $0.055 / kWh
FirstEnergy Solutions 24 mo. Savings Offer 24 months $0.051 / kWh
Direct Energy 12 Month Fixed Price 12 months $0.0549 / kWh
Champion Energy Savings Champ-12 12 months $0.055 / kWh

Cost to recharge a 16 kwh battery

The cost in Illinois to fully recharge the car is $8.38 each time in Illinois. The judge didn't tell the truth.

8 posted on 10/31/2012 6:32:24 PM PDT by Myrddin
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Doesn’t it state right in the article you linked that the national average cost for 40 miles of driving (about half battery bank capacity) is around 85 cents and Illinois isn’t far off the average? That’s about what I would have guessed. So a hypothetical full charge would be about $1.70. I am under the weather (not Sandy) today and may be misinterpreting something here.


9 posted on 10/31/2012 6:42:46 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture tm)
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To: Myrddin

On a related matter, the liberals never seem to make the connection between charging electric cars and how much electricity is needed to do so.

If the liberals got their wish, and we had millions of electric cars on the road tomorrow, we would need to sharply increase the amount of electrical generation capacity to deal with that.

And, that would likely involve more coal fired power plants.

Increasing the use of pollution free electric cars could actually increase the dreaded greenhouse gases, because of the need to generate huge amounts of electricity in fossil fuel power plants.

But, cause and effect, consequences of actions, are often lost on liberals, who urge us to dream of their utopia.


10 posted on 10/31/2012 6:47:40 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego ('s)
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To: Myrddin

I guess maybe you are talking about some sort of convenience charging plan (probably much higher charge rate - amps). I’m going to bed.


11 posted on 10/31/2012 6:48:13 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture tm)
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To: Myrddin
16 kwh X $0.0857 = $1.37 for a FULL charge. In practice, the battery only drains to 30% before the gasoline engine starts. Going from 30% to 100% (70%) would cost $0.96.
12 posted on 10/31/2012 6:49:45 PM PDT by Myrddin
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> The cost in Illinois to fully recharge the car is $8.38 each time in Illinois. The judge didn't tell the truth.

Sorry, you're having trouble reading.

The math is simple -- at (say) 8 cents per kWh, a 16kWh battery will require 16 * 8 = $1.28 to charge fully. At (say) 5 cents per kWh, it's 80 cents.

Where do you get 10 times that much? I think you missed a decimal.

13 posted on 10/31/2012 6:55:19 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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I’m going to bed.

I'm at about 10 1/2 hours at my desk. About ready to leave work and find some dinner. Take care.

14 posted on 10/31/2012 6:57:01 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Dilbert San Diego
that would likely involve more coal fired power plants.

If nat gas stays as cheap as it is now (likely due to the heroic production of the fraccers) you won't see anybody building coal plants.

15 posted on 10/31/2012 6:57:28 PM PDT by nascarnation (Defeat Baraq 2012. Deport Baraq 2013)
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To: dayglored

But I can see where an owner would pay extra to have the car charged at, say, 4x the normal 220v outlet rate. But not THAT much more! Wonder what the maximum “C” charge rate is on the Volt (will look up tomorrow).


16 posted on 10/31/2012 6:58:35 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture tm)
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To: Carthego delenda est; nascarnation

The article mentioned that he’s a circuit judge, who travels around to different court houses. The article also mentioned that the judge made similar arrangements with the local sheriffs for other counties he visited. while the story and “expose” only involved one of those court houses. That might well explain the need for charging a Volt while driving from one county to another, and dispels the idea of “87 cents a week.”

Mark


17 posted on 10/31/2012 7:33:33 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: STD

I have been hired to perform rate analysis on municipal operations during my career. The common denominator that hinders in depth analysis is that the facilities typically have only one power meter to the building or plant. So trying to separate or cost account for daily routine processes is virtually impossible. And the sad part is with all of the new technology and high efficient electrical systems it is tough sell to cash strapped cities on projected cost savings without actual data.

My point is unless there is a separate meter for the judges outlet there really is no way to separate out his power consumption and his true cost.


18 posted on 10/31/2012 7:50:48 PM PDT by shotgun
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I don’t understand why these cars don’t have solar panels on the roof and windmills on the antenna to charge their batteries.


19 posted on 10/31/2012 7:56:18 PM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: Myrddin

How much does the electricity cost to recharge an electric car?


20 posted on 10/31/2012 8:09:35 PM PDT by tbw2
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