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CDC: U.S. Birth Rate Hits All-Time Low; 40.7% of Babies Born to Unmarried Women
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Posted on 11/01/2012 6:17:44 AM PDT by TigerClaws

(CNSNews.com) - The birth rate in the United States hit an all-time low in 2011, according to a report released this month by the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

“The 2011 preliminary number of U.S. births was 3,953,593, 1 percent less (or 45,793 fewer) births than in 2010; the general fertility rate (63.3 per 1,000 women age 15-44 years) declined to the lowest rate ever reported for the United States,” said the report.

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1 posted on 11/01/2012 6:17:48 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws

How awful....no father in the home to help rear the children. That is a national tragedy.


2 posted on 11/01/2012 6:23:34 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: TigerClaws
40.7% of Babies Born to Unmarried Women

And what percentage of those women will collect welfare and other benefits; look to goverment for support the biological fathers will not provide?

3 posted on 11/01/2012 6:26:36 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Will88

And vote Socialist?


4 posted on 11/01/2012 6:30:45 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: Will88

Translated into guaranteed dependency and voting habits designed to keep that government sugar flowing.


5 posted on 11/01/2012 6:30:56 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Pray hard!)
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To: TigerClaws

53% illegitimacy among mothers under 30. And the mothers typically resort to gov’t assistance to support their family - to the tune of $750 billion/year Federal and $250 billion/year from the states.

And of course, these bastard children account for 70% of prison inmates, they tend towards adult dependency themselves and they under perform as a group in school as well.

Welcome to the new secular America, where we have overcome the ancient values which were holding us back. With our new liberated ‘values’ leading to extreme dependency among the youth, we have been properly prepared for the glories of socialism.


6 posted on 11/01/2012 6:33:17 AM PDT by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: Will88

Without jobs or income, what would you suggest they do for the welfare of their children?


7 posted on 11/01/2012 6:36:26 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: crusty old prospector; ScottinVA

Those Dims knew what they were doing when they included voter registration at welfare offices in the motor voter bill.

Out-of-wedlock birth is already a national disaster and it’s getting worse at an increasing pace. We now spend a trillion per year on welfare programs.


8 posted on 11/01/2012 6:39:27 AM PDT by Will88
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To: stuartcr
Without jobs or income, what would you suggest they do for the welfare of their children

Do you think these out-of-wedlock births are planned or accidental? A percentage breakdown?

9 posted on 11/01/2012 6:42:47 AM PDT by Will88
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To: stuartcr

“Without jobs or income, what would you suggest they do for the welfare of their children?”

Don’t have kids.

Hints: 1: Don’t spread your legs, 2: that’s what condomes are for, slut, 3: get some of that free gummit abortions.

I don’t give a smelly Obama about them any more.


10 posted on 11/01/2012 6:42:47 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: txrefugee

With 40% of our children being born out of wedlock, there’s no wonder this once great country is going to hell in a hand basket.


11 posted on 11/01/2012 6:43:01 AM PDT by basil (Second Amendment Sisters.org)
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To: Will88

Either way, what would you do to stop them, besides what about the ones that are here now? That is the current reality. What do you suggest be done?


12 posted on 11/01/2012 6:45:25 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: Will88

I can hear them in their smoke-filled board rooms in smoking jackets with cognac - “Let’s target the bastard vote.”


13 posted on 11/01/2012 6:45:32 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: Da Coyote

That would certainly work for the future, if it could actually be enforced, but the reality is now. What about the current problem? What do you suggest?


14 posted on 11/01/2012 6:47:05 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: stuartcr
"Without jobs or income, what would you suggest they do for the welfare of their children?"

(A) Stop screwing

(B) Look for a job, or get REAL job training

15 posted on 11/01/2012 6:49:20 AM PDT by Lockbar (I promise to purchase one box of ammunition every week.)
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To: stuartcr

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luo40WjBKWI&feature=relmfu

The libs love folks like you, or maybe you’re one of them. What will you suggest when this nation’s finances collapse and our government is finally forced to operate on each year’s revenue?


16 posted on 11/01/2012 6:50:02 AM PDT by Will88
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To: stuartcr

How about not having children if you can’t support them? How about getting married and then having children?


17 posted on 11/01/2012 6:50:21 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Lockbar

A) good for the future problems, if enforcable

B) Very difficult, if none available or no income to pay for child care while training. What would you realistically suggest for those in that situation?


18 posted on 11/01/2012 6:52:54 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: stuartcr

“Without jobs or income, what would you suggest they do for the welfare of their children?”

A free tubal ligation with her next welfare check.


19 posted on 11/01/2012 6:53:48 AM PDT by shove_it ( The 0bama regime are the people Orwell and Rand warned us about.)
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To: TigerClaws

The architects of socialism in our country are smiling.


20 posted on 11/01/2012 6:54:32 AM PDT by CheneyChick (01/20/2013)
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To: ilovesarah2012

You miss the point; our current welfare setup, when calculating all the benefits, makes having babies quite affordable for unwed mothers. In fact, the more children they have the more revenue generated. It’s shameful.


21 posted on 11/01/2012 6:57:00 AM PDT by snoringbear (Government is the Pimp,)
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To: TigerClaws

I’ve see pictures recently of neonatal ward in Dallas, sent to me by my son’s girlfriend, a nurse holding twin girls, and in the background dozens of mothers.. It appeared all of them were of color, Black or Hispanic, or maybe a few Mideasterns..

Remember, these are only infants that are suffering some birth problems, many quite serious.. Our Friend, the nurse is in a supervisory position.. I asked how many of the mothers are on some sort of Fed aid, she laughed, and said she seldom sees any that are not..

We are talking about tens of thousands of seriously ill newborns, with extraordinarily expensive medical costs, some into the 6 figures.. When I asked if she could discern if they are married, or if a father was identified? Her answer was hardly any of the Black even identify a man, and a few list several possible candidates with humorous comments..

I don’t care what anyone takes my posting this as racist in any way, I report you can take away any opinion you wish..
Aside from the moral and sociological implications, or the long term empirical probabilities, this is unsustainable..

Our cultural implications is far more serious, and tragedy does not nearly describe the situation.. Biblical, in it’s proportion, a better description..


22 posted on 11/01/2012 6:57:07 AM PDT by carlo3b (Less Government, more Fiber..)
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To: TigerClaws

It’s weird. Gay people want to marry, but heteros don’t.

There is a lot of truth in that. We (WIFE & me) were shopping for a house recently and the realtor was sort of astonished that we were “actually married.” She said most of her clients are not married and they are all ages.

There are a lot of people buying homes together that are not married. Just sayin’.


23 posted on 11/01/2012 6:59:43 AM PDT by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: txrefugee
Give credit to the Supreme Court decisions 1968 thru the 1970's which struck down laws that treated legitimate vs illegitimate children differently, with respect to mandatory parental support and other aspects.

If a woman was not eligible for child support nor government assistance for an illegitimate child, she would have a greater incentive to get married.

24 posted on 11/01/2012 7:00:19 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (political correctness is communist thought control, disguised as good manners)
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To: Will88

???

Obviously, like you, I have no viable suggestion for the current problem. I just thought that you would.


25 posted on 11/01/2012 7:01:32 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: ilovesarah2012

How about the kids that are already here?

How would you actually put you suggestion into action?


26 posted on 11/01/2012 7:03:06 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: stuartcr
What do you suggest be done?

What will you suggest when government is forced to make large cuts in expenditures?

Will you cut defense and education in order to continue the trillion dollars in annual welfare expenditures?

27 posted on 11/01/2012 7:04:20 AM PDT by Will88
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To: shove_it

That would work for me. How would you get enough support for that to actually happen?


28 posted on 11/01/2012 7:04:39 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: Will88

Please see my #25


30 posted on 11/01/2012 7:07:54 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: stuartcr
Obviously, like you, I have no viable suggestion for the current problem. I just thought that you would.

Oh, I do have some suggestions:

1. NO applicaiton for any welfare program is even accepted until the biological father presents himself along with the mother, or at a minimum identified and as much information as possible collected on him.

2. No additional welfare for additional out-of-wedlock children.

3. Mandatory inclusion in workfare programs.

There are many disincentives that can be included, but the libs will fight them all.

31 posted on 11/01/2012 7:10:11 AM PDT by Will88
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To: stuartcr
Either way, what would you do to stop them, besides what about the ones that are here now? That is the current reality. What do you suggest be done?

Eliminate welfare. Period. Provide a strong disincentive against having children you cannot support.

32 posted on 11/01/2012 7:11:40 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (political correctness is communist thought control, disguised as good manners)
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To: stuartcr
Please see my #25

Lol, you are an apologist for irresponsible behavior and failed liberal solutions. There are many disincentives that can be incorporated into welfare programs, but the liberals and other apologists will fight them all, and they have in the past.

But I agree, you clearly have no ideas.

33 posted on 11/01/2012 7:13:09 AM PDT by Will88
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To: TigerClaws

People need to start prodding, shaming, whatever, the MEN into the goal of Fatherhood and Head of a Family. Men need to decide that they will only be with women who are serious about having a mature, responsible man in their life, for the rest of their life.

It’s going to have to get to where a man who is reckless about his offspring is ashamed in the presence of a man who is a faithful father.

For the lost manboys in the jails, I think Fatherhood 101 could be a standard part of jail terms.


34 posted on 11/01/2012 7:13:29 AM PDT by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: Will88
The low birth rate overall is a much more serious problem for the country than welfare payments to single mothers. Affluent people delaying or abandoning having children is the bigger problem. If they'd rather have their money redistributed to help poorer people have children, then that's better than no one in the country having children at all. The indigenous population not having children means the slow extinction of the culture, the economy and the country.

Do you think these out-of-wedlock births are planned or accidental? A percentage breakdown?

What financial incentive from the government does a man have to abandon his kids? He's not getting any welfare payments for that. And the absence of the father is the main reason the mother needs the welfare. Whether it's a government-caused problem or not is debatable. I think it's much more of a culture-oriented problem. And conservatives need to figure out some real solutions, which probably will have little or nothing to do with elections, politicians and government.

35 posted on 11/01/2012 7:14:30 AM PDT by JediJones (Vote NO on Proposition Zero! Tuesday, November 6th!)
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To: Will88

I agree, those are great suggestions, but what about realistic solutions, ones that would have a chance of actually being enforced, regardless of the administration?

Do you really think Mitt would even suggest something like that?

What candidate, of any party, would not provide welfare for out-of-wedlock children...at least one that had any chance of being elected?


36 posted on 11/01/2012 7:19:33 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: stuartcr
Either way, what would you do to stop them, besides what about the ones that are here now? That is the current reality. What do you suggest be done?


37 posted on 11/01/2012 7:20:57 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The Pravda Press has gone from 'biased' straight on through to 'utterly bizarre'.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Who do you think would run on a platform like that? Do you really think they would even get through the primaries?


38 posted on 11/01/2012 7:21:17 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: stuartcr
Nature has a way of exposing human folly. Might take awhile, but it always happens eventually.

When we're all broke, and there's no more money to take from us, what do you think those poor souls will do then?

If they suffer from the consequences of their own actions, like humans have done for the vast majority of human existence, will it still be our fault?

39 posted on 11/01/2012 7:22:29 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (So?)
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To: TigerClaws

Artificial birth control, condoms, the pill, etc. are lies brought to us by the Father of Lies. Embrace life and the marital act the way Jesus wants us to. A contracepted marital act is sinful. It leads to low birth rates and the decline of society.

I think it is just as big of a societal problem that the middle class are refusing to have children than it is that the poor are having children and are on welfare. There are even Freepers who reject what I am saying. Hopefully they will understand someday.


40 posted on 11/01/2012 7:23:02 AM PDT by impimp
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To: Da Coyote

I heard a preacher (a pretty conservative one at that) of a large church a while back speak on this subject. He made the statement that women who were virgins on their wedding day was all but non-existant—even in the church.

And, who did the preacher blame? The men, not the women. In his opinion the root of the problem is the constant pressure from men (both boyfriends and fiancees) that breaks down the woman’s will.

Instead of focusing so much on women and calling them names, maybe we should take a look at the men and their attitudes.


41 posted on 11/01/2012 7:24:22 AM PDT by Brookhaven (The Democratic Party has become the Beclowning Party)
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To: stuartcr

Just have taxpayers support them.


42 posted on 11/01/2012 7:25:51 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Will88

Where am I apologising? I agree there are many disincentives, I’m asking about ones that would actually come to fruition in todays political atmosphere?

None that I can see any politician actually backing. Do you think Mitt would suggest these actions, or Newt, or Sarah, or any candidate?


43 posted on 11/01/2012 7:27:39 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: JediJones
. And the absence of the father is the main reason the mother needs the welfare. Whether it's a government-caused problem or not is debatable.

One of the only worthwhile contributions Slick Willie made to the national discourse was his use of the phrase: "welfare as a way of life". Welfare is a way of life for all too many, a planned way of life, just as planned as anyone else's finishing HS, applying to college, picking a major, etc., etc.

A great TV moment I witnessed during the '80s was on PBS. That great lib Phil Donahue was conducting a discussion about welfare with a panel of several. The statement was made that many black girls got pregnant intentionally so they could get welfare, food stamps, an apartment, etc., and move out on their own.

This drove Phil up a wall and his problem was greatly compounded by the fact that those statements came from a black, female social worker from SC. Old Phil was craning his neck and loosening his tie, really between a rock and a hard place as to how to handle the dilemma. He finally said that he just couldn't allow those statements to stand, that black girls intentionally got pregnant to obtain welfare benefits.

The black, female social worker from SC held her ground. Of course, she was telling the truth and she knew it from her job experience. A pretty high percentage of out-of-wedlock births are planned. They are 'career' moves.

And it is insane to suggest that high birth rates among people with few jobs skills and no means of support is a good thing, no matter the birthrate among the more productive.

Out-of-wedlock births and the trillion dollar annual cost, (about 30% of our budget), and all the other problems that are amplified in single mom families, is our greatest national problem, at present and getting worse for the future.

44 posted on 11/01/2012 7:30:12 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Trailerpark Badass

What folly of the past is exposed today?

Why do you say it’s our fault?


45 posted on 11/01/2012 7:30:41 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: ilovesarah2012

???


46 posted on 11/01/2012 7:32:14 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: LucianOfSamasota; stuartcr
I posted this comment on the following thread, that addresses just one of the symptoms of out of wed birth.. This was just a fraction of the most recent demonstration of the crime wave of these offspring..

Gang Mugging in NY During Hurricane Sandy,

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2953003/posts

Here is really what separates the Takers scum, from the Worker class, or better yet, Liberals from Conservatives.. My first reaction was to act like them, and strike out at someone, something, or where our morality has fallen.. JUST GET’M ALL..

What else should we expect, these feral cretins, were raised without any structure, or moral underpinnings, or genuine love..

My guess is that most of these heartless ba$tards, have never been told that they would be punished for their actions.. Not only with jail, which they wear as a trophy, but with SHAME, as in utter disappointment leveled at them by someone that they admire, that expected more from them..

Whom in their pitiful lives has eared that kind of dignity, that taught them, by example.. That you only get what you are willing to give in life, and the Do Unto Others’ is really a road-map to reward, proven by results..

So much work, so little time.. Sorry folks, I really do fear we are entering the last quarter in the “American Dream”, reality showdown.. Damned Liberals .. %@%#@%

47 posted on 11/01/2012 7:33:16 AM PDT by carlo3b (Less Government, more Fiber..)
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To: stuartcr

Unless something changes drastically re: our budget, spending, budget deficits, national debt, etc., we will have no choice but to make painful cuts in many programs in the near future.

A Republican president with a Republican House and Senate would make some changes. Repealing Obamacare is a first major step and I believe that will be done if Republicans win the presidency and a majority in the Senate.


48 posted on 11/01/2012 7:34:52 AM PDT by Will88
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To: TigerClaws
"It's just a piece of paper"

/sarc

49 posted on 11/01/2012 7:35:33 AM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: stuartcr

I would take idleness off the table as a lifestyle option and test all public assistance applicants for drugs. If you seek welfare, you’re going to have to show up every morning and put in a day’s work. If addiction is part of the problem, we’ll find that out and work on it.

The devil is in the details. Finding work for all these folks will be a challenge, especially in major metro areas. If it’s makework, so be it; there should not be a scrap of litter, a trace of graffiti, or an unscrubbed surface in any city with a large welfare population, and if the makework runs out, we can hand out picks and shovels and dig subway tunnels by hand.

The point is not to be punitive. The point is threefold: to make getting and keeping a real job preferable to welfare; to get rid of welfare cheats; and to make little Cassie, Maria, and Lakeesha think twice, and then twice again, before getting pregnant to begin with.

When I was a kid, the national rate of illegitimacy was about 5%. Then government stepped in as the great enabler. We have to stop enabling. Obviously we don’t want anyone going hungry, but assistance should not be free.


50 posted on 11/01/2012 7:36:40 AM PDT by sphinx
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