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Tempers Flare: Residents Complain Government Is Too Slow Distributing Food And Supplies
SHTF Plan ^ | 11-1-2012 | Mac Slavo

Posted on 11/01/2012 6:24:55 AM PDT by blam

Tempers Flare: Residents Complain Government Is Too Slow Distributing Food And Supplies

Mac Slavo
October 31st, 2012

Hurricane Sandy made landfall just 36 hours ago and already we’ve received reports of looting in hard-hit areas with some people brazenly taking to Twitter to post pictures of their new found wealth.

Ahead of the storm panic buying left grocery and hardware store shelves empty as concerned residents stocked up on food, water, batteries, flashlights, and generators.

With the run on supplies over the weekend, tens of thousands of people were inevitably left without essential survival items due to shortages across the region, and now they are demanding action from government officials.

Officials in the city of Hoboken, N.J., are defending their response to severe flooding from superstorm Sandy.

Public Safety director Jon Tooke says at least 25 percent of the city on the Hudson River across from Manhattan remains under water. He estimates at least 20,000 people are stranded and says most are being encouraged to shelter in place until floodwaters recede.

Tempers flared Wednesday morning outside City Hall as some residents complained the city was slow to get food and other supplies out to the stranded.

Tooke says emergency personnel have been working 24/7. He says the “scope of this situation is enormous.”

Without any way to heat their homes due to power outages, no food in their pantries and water supplies potentially tainted with polluted flood waters, those who failed to prepare are now at the mercy of the Federal Emergency Management Agency’s crisis safety net.

But, as FEMA has advised in its emergency preparedness guidelines, despite millions of dollars in supplies having been purchased by the Federal government, if emergency responders and the transportation infrastructure is overwhelmed, help may not be coming for days or weeks.

While damage from Hurricane Sandy may not be as widespread or severe as earlier reports suggested it could be, what should be crystal clear is that any serious long-term emergency would be horrific for the non-prepper.

In New Jersey some 20,000 residents are affected and already there are not enough supplies to go around and sanity is rapidly destabilizing.

The government simply does not have the manpower to deal with an emergency requiring the delivery of food and water to hundreds of thousands of people. The saving grace for the east coast is that the damage was not as bad as it could have been, and residents were made aware of the coming storm days in advance, giving them ample time to stock up or evacuate.

Imagine the effects of an unforeseen, more widespread disaster such as coordinated dirty-bomb terror attacks, a natural disaster requiring permanent mass evacuations of entire cities, destruction of the national power grid, or the collapse of the currency systems necessary for the global exchange of key commodities.

Even those who set aside supplies for such disasters would be hard-pressed to survive; never mind those who have less than three days of food in their pantries.


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KEYWORDS: fema; hurricane; prepping; sandy
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1 posted on 11/01/2012 6:25:01 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

If they’re going to rely on government they better learn to expect this sort of thing.


2 posted on 11/01/2012 6:27:01 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: blam

Fortunately the storm wasn’t stronger. These people would be in serious trouble if it had been.


3 posted on 11/01/2012 6:28:50 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: blam

That’s impossible. Crispie Creme just told us all that Obama is doing an unbelievalbly fantasitic job of disaster relief.


4 posted on 11/01/2012 6:29:10 AM PDT by Will88
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To: cripplecreek

Yep.


5 posted on 11/01/2012 6:29:19 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: Will88

Adn the news media told us that Romeny’s collecting of food and supplies was not what the Red Cross needed. So this entire story just has to be wrong.


6 posted on 11/01/2012 6:31:18 AM PDT by Will88
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To: blam

How fast did they think it would be? Do they think it’s as automatic as grocery store deliveries?


7 posted on 11/01/2012 6:32:27 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: blam

8 posted on 11/01/2012 6:32:40 AM PDT by death2tyrants
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To: blam

What do people expect? When everything is going good, at best no one cares about these govt agencies, (local, state fed), they usually just bad-mouth them and say it’s big govt, but when bad stuff happens, people expect hot meals delivered to them.

Private organisations would do even less.


9 posted on 11/01/2012 6:33:34 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: snarkytart

Its been what, 3 days? I wouldn’t have to start worrying about food for the better part of the winter.


10 posted on 11/01/2012 6:34:00 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: blam

Learn to love filling out forms and never hearing back from FEMA. They are mostly about filling out forms, which they must stack in a truck somewhere until they are shredded.

Obama has had his photo op hugging a crying woman, and that’s all he was scheduled to do yesterday....oh, and to show how he could actually hug a fat Republican, Gov. Christie...a twofer on the tolerance scale.


11 posted on 11/01/2012 6:34:07 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Will88

Yep. Glenn Beck has truckloads of stuff just waiting to go in.


12 posted on 11/01/2012 6:36:01 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: blam

“Brownie” is doin’ one heckuva job there, ain’t he?


13 posted on 11/01/2012 6:36:01 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: blam

In before someone post about how preppers’ supplies would be all washed away.

There are far more homes unflooded, but with people with no power and no way to get anywhere than there are flooded homes. Most likely 9 to 1 or better. Now if each of the homes that are unflooded just cut off and with no power, water, communications, supplies, medical care, etc... have prepped how much less a strain will it be logistically on first responders? Wouldn’t being able to take care of yourself and your family and not needing help ease their burden and leave more for those that truly need it?

It not just the preppers themselves, if you have stuff you can help. If you have power you might not be able to power other’s homes, but you can charge batteries and electronics for them. If you have a way to cook you can cook a pot luck for your neighbors. And it’s not just about STUFF!

If you have skills you can use them to help other. Maybe help with temporary repairs on their house for some one that can’t drive a nail. Provide news and communications. First aid you share your training. Isn’t that better than stand around on a bridge waiting for FEMA to bring you a bottle of water, a MRE, a warm blanket and a kiss for your boo-boo?


14 posted on 11/01/2012 6:36:10 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Will88
I think Christie has made a serious mistake with his behavior over the past couple of days that will have consequences.
15 posted on 11/01/2012 6:36:15 AM PDT by V_TWIN (obama=where there's smoke, there's mirrors)
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To: blam

Imagine how very, VERY different the coverage would be about this, were Obama not President????


16 posted on 11/01/2012 6:36:18 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: blam

I would predict a far worse catastrophic scenario in the future if Obama was still POTUS and Obamacare takes full effect unchecked and with full enforcement.

Only those on approved lists that have not opted out would get some relief, minimal relief based upon their age and contribution to society, if they are in the media they get full benefits, if they have a conservative belief they get put on a waiting list.

The Obamacare world.


17 posted on 11/01/2012 6:37:04 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (OPSEC)
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To: blam
While damage from Hurricane Sandy may not be as widespread or severe as earlier reports suggested it could be, what should be crystal clear is that any serious long-term emergency would be horrific for the non-prepper

Touche.

But what if all your "preps" were stocked somewhere in your home, which is now 3 feet under water?

Ahh, the "best laid plans..." eh?

Bon chance NE, we knew ye well...

18 posted on 11/01/2012 6:38:43 AM PDT by China Clipper ( Animals? Sure I like animals. See? There they are, right next to the potatoes!)
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To: blam

jerks should have loaded up on toilet paper, water, beans and rice well before the storm. too bad, so sad babies


19 posted on 11/01/2012 6:39:31 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: txrefugee

Learn to have your whole damned family fill out forms for a FEMA trailer.

Learn how to post on eBay to sell the extras.

Learn how to get each member of the family line up to get one of the free charged-up debit cards Obama will be handing out soon.

Learn how to get every member to ‘fan out’ when lining up for FEMA supply goodies.

Learn how to apply for unemployment, Section 8, SNAP, TANF and disaster grants for your ‘new post-disaster’ business...


20 posted on 11/01/2012 6:39:31 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: cripplecreek

Same here, in fact, I’ve had to try donating much of my food to local churches and charities instead of actually keeping it for the storm, which didn’t really knock out power in my part of Delaware at all. The flooding though, a problem. But given the fireplace, myself and my wife could survive over a week without power, plus we’ve got plenty of books, and little tweaking aspects of the house to pass the time, plus, we could actually, given the food, toilet paper, etc., in reserve, we could also support four additional people. I know what you’re saying however, it seems all too many people don’t seem to know what life without power is.


21 posted on 11/01/2012 6:40:55 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: blam

Husseins fault!


22 posted on 11/01/2012 6:41:18 AM PDT by Michigander222
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To: blam

Husseins fault!


23 posted on 11/01/2012 6:41:19 AM PDT by Michigander222
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To: GeronL

Isn’t there an app for that? (Eye roll)


24 posted on 11/01/2012 6:42:00 AM PDT by trotskylvalia (where nose meets the grindstone)
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To: V_TWIN

He really congratulated Obama way too soon. In fact, wouldn’t it have made more sense to wait say, 1 week, at least, just to demonstrate that the recovery was nearly complete? Anyways, I guess Christie thinks like the Nobel Prize Committee, and won’t be a viable presidential candidate in the near future either. Oh well, that’s his loss.


25 posted on 11/01/2012 6:43:34 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: trotskylvalia

lol

Right. Abolish FEMA and use a new app to coordinate the response to disasters. heh


26 posted on 11/01/2012 6:44:17 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Kartographer

One more thing.

Prepare to be a leader. You may not need to be but having a plan to lead will come in handy if you find neighbors looking for direction.


27 posted on 11/01/2012 6:44:34 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: blam

Have no fear. The Distributer in Chief is in Vegas at the craps.tables, turning our tax dollars into relief funds.


28 posted on 11/01/2012 6:44:50 AM PDT by ObozoMustGo2012
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To: blam

The “gubmint” just gets in the way.

If the politically correct “anti-gouging” officials would just let the free market work, there would be no shortages in very short order.


29 posted on 11/01/2012 6:45:48 AM PDT by TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed (Yahuah Yahusha)
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To: blam

It was a Category One storm. The near hysterical coverage by the news media with reports of a ‘Frankenstorm’ or ‘The Perfect Storm’ made it seem like another Camille or Andrew. It affected a lot of people due to population density, but as far as hurricanes go it was not a super storm. I lived in Fla for over 30 years and took the media coverage as kind of an insult to the folks in the South East who’ve gone through much worse. Things will be better in a few days, till then you just have to deal with it.


30 posted on 11/01/2012 6:46:10 AM PDT by Stevenc131
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To: death2tyrants

LOLOLOL!!! Love that Looter Guy!!!!!


31 posted on 11/01/2012 6:46:21 AM PDT by EnquiringMind
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To: Morpheus2009

How can this be? Didn’t nobama fly over the area and bless it? All praise the nobama.


32 posted on 11/01/2012 6:46:26 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: GeronL

FEMA is little more than another bloated entitlement program. The Mayor of NJ is already calling for them to pay for dune restoration.


33 posted on 11/01/2012 6:46:48 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: blam

This can’t be!

Just yesterday I saw Bams on TV saying no red tape, just call the goovermint and they will get to you in 15 minutes!

They even have a website with everything you need on it.

/s (sarc tag because tempers are short these days)


34 posted on 11/01/2012 6:50:30 AM PDT by wrench
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To: blam
This can't possibly be true!

I saw, with my own eyes, the President himself touring the devastation PERSONALLY!

Why, he even hugged someone to make them feel better!

And how can there be looting?

There is no mention of it on the news!


35 posted on 11/01/2012 6:50:49 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys=Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best for you.)
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To: Morpheus2009
Christie's enjoying his new role as Obama's Greek column...


36 posted on 11/01/2012 6:51:20 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm not voting for Obama, so therefore I must be helping Romney!)
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To: China Clipper

Makes sense.

It’s always best to not try and be prepared so you can be a burden on the rest of us.


37 posted on 11/01/2012 6:53:53 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: Stevenc131
It was a Category One storm. The near hysterical coverage by the news media with reports of a ‘Frankenstorm’ or ‘The Perfect Storm’ made it seem like another Camille or Andrew.

First of all, Sandy was estimated to be four times more powerful than the Perfect Storm.

Second, many folks are saying the Saffir-Simpson scale needs to be re-worked to not just rely on wind and structural damage. Katrina hit as a Cat 3 but had Cat 5 surge. Ike hit as a Cat 2 but had Cat 4 surge. Sandy was a Cat 1 with Cat 3 surge. Sense a pattern? Very large storms, covering a wide expanse of ocean, can create surge much larger than their wind-driven Saffir-Simpson scale ratings. And surge is in most cases the most destructive aspect of hurricanes (with Andrew being a notable exception).

38 posted on 11/01/2012 6:54:52 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Will88

Maybe if Crispie Creme didn’t spend so much time getting his face on every morning show in the country and schmoozing with Obama, this may not have happened.


39 posted on 11/01/2012 6:55:47 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Be careful of believing something just because you want it to be true.)
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To: dirtboy
First of all, Sandy was estimated to be four times more powerful than the Perfect Storm

Which sounds ridiculous

40 posted on 11/01/2012 6:58:36 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: blam

What blows me away on this is that they had to know for several days that it was coming!

I would have filled my bathtub and every pot, pan, pitcher, glass and bowl and garbage can with water before the storm. If nothing had happened, I could just pour it all down the drain.


41 posted on 11/01/2012 7:00:35 AM PDT by tiki
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To: blam

They were told to evacuate and did not. They were told to stock up and did not.

Now they are complaining????

They need cans of stfu delivered, not water.

3 days...sounding like katrina all over again. it ain’t as easy to do as it is to bitch about, is it “brownie”?


42 posted on 11/01/2012 7:02:00 AM PDT by Adder (No Mo BO)
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To: GeronL

You were one of the worst on FR running around saying this wasn’t a big deal. Guess what? It was. Get lost and leave the hurricane threads to those who don’t have their heads up their butts.


43 posted on 11/01/2012 7:02:10 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Stevenc131
It was a Category One storm. The near hysterical coverage by the news media with reports of a ‘Frankenstorm’ or ‘The Perfect Storm’ made it seem like another Camille or Andrew.

This kind of talk makes me angry. This storm may not have been as powerful as those two, but it hit one of the most densely (if not the most) populated areas in the country. The loss is deep and wide to the people and the infrastructure. More people have already died due to Sandy than died in Andrew.

44 posted on 11/01/2012 7:04:59 AM PDT by old and tired
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To: cripplecreek

That’s right. Its a sad statement. The article gives the impression of people passively waiting for government to provide for them. Drive 50 miles inland and they’ll find stores full of food they can buy.


45 posted on 11/01/2012 7:05:16 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: China Clipper

“But what if all your “preps” were stocked somewhere in your home, which is now 3 feet under water?

Ahh, the “best laid plans...” eh?”

If you still have your emergency stock you can stay, but if you lose this, you leave. What is so hard to understand about that?


46 posted on 11/01/2012 7:05:28 AM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: blam
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If you just prepare right you won't have to ever worry about a slow government stepping in to do what you should have been planning for in the first place.
47 posted on 11/01/2012 7:07:19 AM PDT by MeOnTheBeach
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To: blam

Wasn’t there some kind of Executive Order put out by Obama that said that people who stock up on food and other supplies could be suspected of being “belligerents”? And another EO that said the government can confiscate anything a person has, if they consider it to be an emergency?

It’s blurry in my mind, but I remember something about those things. Anybody know more about this?

If being prepared means you’re suspected as a terrorist (and according to the NDAA you can be imprisoned forever with no charges, no trial, and no way for anybody to help you), and if the government can/will take away anything you prepare with anyway..... the government essentially decides who lives and who dies. Has the US government reserved for itself the right and ability to do exactly that?


48 posted on 11/01/2012 7:07:36 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: blam

And this is why I don’t live in the city. Plenty of room here to have dry storage, plenty of wood to fire up the wood stove and for cooking, a lake within walking distance.

I could actually do quite a lot more prepping for a TEOTWAWKI, but a few weeks without power is not a big deal. Not fun, but not deadly.


49 posted on 11/01/2012 7:08:23 AM PDT by Betis70 ("Leading from Behind" gets your Ambassador killed)
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To: blam

I have relatives in Virginia near DC. They were not told to evacuate, but on Saturday, they packed up the car and headed westward. They were responsible. They took action. Didn’t wait for government.

The ones crying the loudest about slow relief are the ones who were advised to evacuate, but they chose not to. If you make a bad choice, you live with the consequences. You don’t look to government to bail you out.


50 posted on 11/01/2012 7:12:14 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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