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NBC/WSJ/Marist polls show Obama up in Iowa, virtual ties in NH, WI
NBC News ^ | 11/1/2012 | Mark Murray

Posted on 11/01/2012 7:10:44 AM PDT by paul544

Less than a week before Election Day, President Barack Obama holds a statistically significant lead over Republican nominee Mitt Romney in the battleground of Iowa, while the two candidates are locked in tight races in New Hampshire and Wisconsin, according to new NBC News/Wall Street Journal/Marist polls.

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1 posted on 11/01/2012 7:10:49 AM PDT by paul544
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To: paul544

NBC/Marist. ‘Nuff said there. No credibility at all.


2 posted on 11/01/2012 7:12:53 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Pray hard!)
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To: ScottinVA

We’ll see. Even Hotair was having trouble shooting down the IA poll. They only have it D+3 which doesn’t account for 6 point lead.

Either way, these polls are lining up with others for these states even if IA seems a bit off.


3 posted on 11/01/2012 7:15:44 AM PDT by paul544
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To: ScottinVA
That's great news. Watching the propaganda trends are as important as watching the trends in more reliable news.

Right now the propaganda, 4% behind the reality, is up against the ropes. Meaning, the knockout has already occurred.

All information is valuable if you're watching it move.

4 posted on 11/01/2012 7:17:40 AM PDT by HannibalHamlinJr
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To: paul544

Marist is located in Poughkeepsie, NY where they have the Culinary Institute of America, a place that locally delivers Special Sauce.


5 posted on 11/01/2012 7:18:30 AM PDT by BlueStateRightist
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To: paul544

The Marist poll is conceding Romney is leading in NH and WI! IA looks safe for The One but I think Romney will definitely carry NH and WI.


6 posted on 11/01/2012 7:20:36 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: paul544

7 posted on 11/01/2012 7:21:39 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: paul544

With +5-+15 D’s? Riiiiight. This year’s election will probably be +5 R’s. Add 10 points to whatever Romney’s polled, and that’ll be the LOW END of what Romney actually gets. Obama’s firewall will be DC, Harlem, Madison, and South Central LA.


8 posted on 11/01/2012 7:24:02 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Pray for Joe Biden- Proverbs 29:9)
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To: goldstategop

Where do you see that? Obama’s up in all three.


9 posted on 11/01/2012 7:24:02 AM PDT by paul544
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To: paul544
First of all this poll is bogus... I went and read the .pdf at the link you posted. Here is a bit that is hidden in the poll... this poll has obama down by 8 points from their last Iowa poll a month ago. Who has the Mo in Iowa???

LLS

10 posted on 11/01/2012 7:25:03 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (OUR GOVERNMENT AND PRESS ARE NO LONGER TRUSTWORTHY OR DESERVING OF RESPECT!)
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To: ScottinVA

NBC/WSJ/Marist reporting a tie in Wi? That’s GREAT news!!!


11 posted on 11/01/2012 7:25:03 AM PDT by Jake8898
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To: MuttTheHoople

You just named where all the riots for big screen tv’s will take place after Gilligan loses the election.


12 posted on 11/01/2012 7:25:29 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: goldstategop

Leading in NH and WI but losing Iowa?
I don’t think so.
That would be like zero losing Texas and carrying Oklahoma.


13 posted on 11/01/2012 7:25:59 AM PDT by Clump ( the tree of liberty is withering like a stricken fig tree)
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To: paul544

Its a tie in NH and WI - a tie is MSM speak for a Romney lead - they are never going to say he’s ahead in those states. But you can figure out if its tied in two of those states, Romney has the lead! I can say 99% sure that Romney will win both NH and WI.


14 posted on 11/01/2012 7:27:21 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: ScottinVA
NBC/Marist. ‘Nuff said there. No credibility at all.

The Marist polling has been terrible. The Journal seems to pick embarassingly bad polling partners - they even published Zogby internet polling once cycle with disastrous results.

These polls are showing a move toward Romney from previous surveys (WI -6 -> -3, IA -8 -> -6) - but I really don't know whether to give that any credence considering the weakness of the pollster.

15 posted on 11/01/2012 7:27:39 AM PDT by Skulllspitter
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To: Clump

On second thought, the IA poll could be off - if Romney is behind by -5, he could still win the Hawkeye State. They have to make Bamster look good. Speaking conservatively, IA is on the fence but I feel confident about GOP prospects in those other states.


16 posted on 11/01/2012 7:31:29 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: paul544

I stopped at NBC


17 posted on 11/01/2012 7:34:09 AM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: paul544

A lot of “concerned” nattering naybob posts from you. This race is structural. In actual data, Obama is running 14% behind his ‘08 early vote margins, 14% behind his spread with independents, and is polling about 14% worse in every single state than he did in ‘08. Detect a common theme here? Even California and Oregon show the 14 pt shift. Subtract 14 from whatever Obama got in ‘08 and you are pretty close to your final result in ‘12.

Now that you know this, you can spend the next 5 days rubbing your cat or whatever you do for pleasure besides trying to unnecessarily depress people out on this forum.


18 posted on 11/01/2012 7:34:57 AM PDT by johncocktoasten (Practicing asymetrical thread warfare against anti-Palin Trolls)
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To: paul544

With +5-+15 D’s? Riiiiight. This year’s election will probably be +5 R’s. Add 10 points to whatever Romney’s polled, and that’ll be the LOW END of what Romney actually gets. Obama’s firewall will be DC, Harlem, Madison, and South Central LA.


19 posted on 11/01/2012 7:37:21 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Pray for Joe Biden- Proverbs 29:9)
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To: johncocktoasten

Yeah but my cat doesn’t react like you do so I’ll stay here all the same.


20 posted on 11/01/2012 7:42:38 AM PDT by paul544
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To: paul544

Good to know. You keep posting “depress the vote” slanted news and I will be right there. Obamatrons already dominate TV. We don’t need them on FR.


21 posted on 11/01/2012 7:48:29 AM PDT by johncocktoasten (Practicing asymetrical thread warfare against anti-Palin Trolls)
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To: paul544

Marist - Marxist, what’s in a word?


22 posted on 11/01/2012 7:51:02 AM PDT by Buckeye Battle Cry (Audentis Fortuna Iuvat)
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To: paul544; All

If you look at the poll, it’s being contorted by early voting numbers, Paul.

I think that’s much of the issue, especially in Iowa due to the huge lead for Obama in the “early voting” section of the poll.

That’s not realistic compared to election day voting and crossover vote numbers. This sure does not look to be like 2008 with lots of GOPs voting Obama. It could be the opposite.

Those early voting polls are just bad and not worth quoting really.


23 posted on 11/01/2012 7:54:14 AM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: Buckeye Battle Cry
...Marist...Marxist...

There, fixed it.

24 posted on 11/01/2012 7:59:48 AM PDT by chopperman
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To: johncocktoasten
You are cracking me up! My kid is asking what I am laughing at. Your innuendo is such that I can not tell her... LMBO!!
25 posted on 11/01/2012 8:00:40 AM PDT by Anti-Hillary (Barry, Barry quite contrary, how does your government grow?...)
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To: paul544

I’m so sick of this polling crap I could just puke.

The real polling takes place Nov 6th, all that polling drivel before is worthless to all except for those that profit by it, either financially or politically.


26 posted on 11/01/2012 8:02:12 AM PDT by redfreedom
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To: goldstategop
I agree!!!...Watch the polls and pundits on election nite scramble in CYA mode with headlines reading...

LAST MINUTE SURGE FOR ROMNEY SWINGS ELECTION!!

In an “unexpected” turn of events, undecided voters swing heavily for Romney on eve of election........”unprecedented” last minute swing....”unparalleled” voter dissatisfaction....polls tell us in what was a widely “perceived” close race that swing voters fall heavily for Romney...etc...

Feel free to add more “Headlines”.....should be fun to watch the news knowing we predicted them in advance.....Rush could probably have fun with this one...lets make a list and send it to him!

27 posted on 11/01/2012 8:08:23 AM PDT by M-cubed
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To: redfreedom

I’m with you but hold on because Rasmussen will be coming out with Iowa later today. Will either support or contradict the Marist poll here.


28 posted on 11/01/2012 8:16:35 AM PDT by paul544
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To: MuttTheHoople

You forgot Philly, Cleveland and st Louis.


29 posted on 11/01/2012 8:24:48 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Media goes nuts in 2004 because Bush went to the dentist 20 years ago. Benghazi? Nothing.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
You forgot Philly, Cleveland and st Louis.

Nope. Romney wins those. 8^D

30 posted on 11/01/2012 8:27:30 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Pray for Joe Biden- Proverbs 29:9)
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