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Why Was the Answer ‘No’ in Benghazi?
National Review Online ^ | 11/1/2012 | Bing West

Posted on 11/01/2012 10:29:03 AM PDT by PhxRising

Concerning the 9/11 assault on the consulate in Benghazi, the crux of the issue during that tragic night is whether our military should have done nothing or should have tried to do something.

The president said he immediately directed that all actions be taken by our military to secure our personnel. Since then, he has made clear that he expects fast action when he gives a directive.

“You return everybody’s phone calls in 15 minutes,” Obama said at a news conference on October 31. “Whether it’s the mayors, the governors, county officials, if they need something, we figure out a way to say yes. . . . We leave no one behind.”

Secretary Panetta said General Ham, General Dempsey, and he unanimously agreed to take no action because they did not have enough information to place U.S. rescue forces in harm’s way. But if the president directed the military to take action, that is an executive order, not a request for the military to collect more intelligence.

The Pentagon is now leaking that it had no forces of any kind that could have helped inside seven hours — a different excuse than claiming a lack of information.

(Excerpt) Read more at nationalreview.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: benghazi; libya; obama; shadowwars; threatmatrix
"You return everybody’s phone calls in 15 minutes; we figure out a way to say yes.”

Why, then, was the answer “no” on 9/11 in Benghazi?

1 posted on 11/01/2012 10:29:08 AM PDT by PhxRising
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To: PhxRising

“Why, then, was the answer “no”...”

That is the question, and the only person who can answer that is the President, as it was his order.

Panetta, and Generals Ham and Dempsey, had nothing to do with “no”.


2 posted on 11/01/2012 10:34:27 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: PhxRising

“Why, then, was the answer “no”...”

That is the question, and the only person who can answer that is the President, as it was his order.

Panetta, and Generals Ham and Dempsey, had nothing to do with “no”.


3 posted on 11/01/2012 10:34:51 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: PhxRising
...agreed to take no action because they did not have enough information to place U.S. rescue forces in harm’s way...

Ummm, we ARE talking about the military right? Not a girl scout troop... right? If we're paying billions in taxes for people who can't find 10 people to drop into a danger zone, then hell, disband 'em.

4 posted on 11/01/2012 10:53:35 AM PDT by GOPJ ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbOuxqK2T34)
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To: PhxRising

We’ll know when they’ve come up with a lie that works when the New York Times runs with it... that’s the tip off.


5 posted on 11/01/2012 10:54:17 AM PDT by GOPJ ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbOuxqK2T34)
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To: PhxRising
The Administration allowing Al Qaeda to eliminate the witnesses...?

Why, if Stevens felt in jeopardy, was he even in Benghazi?

Why was Stevens given less security in one of the most dangerous cities on earth than Valerie Jarrett is given by US taxpayers to move around Chicago?

Why would the administration tell a lie about why the attack in Benghazi happened when it was obvious to anyone with a living brain that they would be caught lying, and caught long before the election vote?

Is it not logical that they concluded that it would be far less damaging to the Administration to tell a ridiculous lie about what happened in Benghazi to buy themselves some time, and to get caught at the lie, than the damage they'd suffer if they told the whole truth?

There were 30 other individuals in the compound that night? Have you seen them on TV? Have you heard their families speak out about what they've heard went on? Someone is making the witnesses disappear...at least until after the election.

6 posted on 11/01/2012 10:55:09 AM PDT by RavenATB
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To: RavenATB; PhxRising
They can't make everyone disappear. The leaks are springing up everywhere!

Hillary's claw prints are all over this attack and denial of help. I've often wondered if she's too slimy for anything to stick, but I do have hope this time and LOVE that the conservative media WILL NOT LET IT GO!

Check out these videos:

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/glenn-beck-to-media-outlets-sitting-on-damning-benghazi-emails-release-them-or-be-exposed/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6M9y7Hyrj4&feature=youtu.be

7 posted on 11/01/2012 10:58:53 AM PDT by demkicker (My passion for freedom is stronger than that of Democrats whose obsession is to enslave me.)
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To: demkicker

What about the 30+ people who were supposedly saved? Who are they and where are they and what do they have to say about all this?


8 posted on 11/01/2012 11:05:21 AM PDT by Suz in AZ
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To: demkicker
I agree that Hillary's hands are probably dirty. But Obama met with his senior staff less than an hour after the attack in Benghazi began. An attack on an Ambassador had to have been the main topic. So the “call” on denying support had to come from the top.
9 posted on 11/01/2012 11:10:09 AM PDT by RavenATB
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To: RavenATB

I can believe that they are so blinded that they believed the public would believe the video cover story. They did not count on someone rushing to the aid of the ambassador. They did not count on there being victims who had so many friends/family who would call them on the preposterous lie.

This makes me wonder if they have used the incited Muslim mob ruse before. What else went down back when that preacher was threatening to burn Korans? What else went down when the Muslim mobs went crazy over the US military burning Korans? I do recall that we had an officer or two murdered in Afghanistan in a supposedly secure building. Has the murderer been located?


10 posted on 11/01/2012 11:13:11 AM PDT by petitfour
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To: PhxRising; SatinDoll; GOPJ; RavenATB; Suz in AZ
This is another one not to miss!

http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/on-the-record/2012/11/01/uncovered-classified-cable-could-be-benghazi-attacks-smoking-gun-warning-why-didnt-obama-?page=1

It is coming unraveled and we want justice!

11 posted on 11/01/2012 11:13:42 AM PDT by demkicker (My passion for freedom is stronger than that of Democrats whose obsession is to enslave me.)
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To: Suz in AZ
Suz, your question about the 30+ people saved: Who are they? Where are they? What do they have to say about this? are all questions I've wondered about too. On Fox (earlier this week) said “some” are still in the hospital recovering. That doesn't account for all of them, and the ones in the hospital could still give a statement unless they are in a coma. I would love to hear from them.
12 posted on 11/01/2012 11:15:18 AM PDT by Humal
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To: PhxRising

The Pentagon had no forces of any kind that could have helped?????????????? More of the Panetta Doctrine(Dumbest S@#T I ever heard).

That could only be true, if they dilly dallied around before the President gave CBA.


13 posted on 11/01/2012 11:26:45 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Suz in AZ

Most are probably CIA affiliated, and as such not available for public interview.


14 posted on 11/01/2012 11:29:53 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: PhxRising

This is my guess based on what I’ve read and putting on the tin foil hat...

-Stevens was a loose end. He knew about this administration funneling weapons and money to terrorists in Syria and elsewhere.
-The election looked like it was going bad and they didn’t trust Stevens to keep his mouth shut.
-The video was preset as their cover story
-Protests were stoked by Code Pink and possibly CIA officials in other countries to validate the cover story
-Ambassador was supposed to be unguarded and his security forces were to ‘run away’ when it happened leaving him an easy target. It wouldn’t need to look like an all-out assault under these circumstances
-The Seals got wind of what was going down and intervened and it all went to hell requiring the terrorists to track down the safehouse and attack.
-The drone was overhead because they knew it was coming and were watching to make sure it went down as planned.
-They had no contingency for the Seals intervening so they went with the cover story and hoped it would stick
-They never expected calls for aid or for this to last 7 hours and have been in cover mode praying it would not be investigated.

Just my thoughts.


15 posted on 11/01/2012 11:31:50 AM PDT by dannyboy72a (the circuit is closing)
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To: petitfour

“They did not count on someone rushing to the aid of the ambassador. “

Bingo. After giving the stand-down order, they (zero/hillbilly) expected no survivors/witnesses.
They didn’t expect that the two Seals would intervene and save the survivors.

There is SOME reason why zero/hillbilly didn’t want survivors from the attack. Orders from Russia/Saudi Arabia/another Muslim country?? Botched kidnapping to force exchange of the Blind Sheik?

I pray we find out the truth.


16 posted on 11/01/2012 11:39:14 AM PDT by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: RavenATB
I agree that Hillary's hands are probably dirty. But Obama met with his senior staff less than an hour after the attack in Benghazi began. An attack on an Ambassador had to have been the main topic. So the “call” on denying support had to come from the top.

Oh, I totally agree. I'm not letting Obama off the hook at all. But the latest cable dated August 16th that Catherine Herridge released on Greta's show last night went directly to Hillary. These are two rats on a sinking ship and we just need to pray that Romney wins so that the truth will FINALLY be exposed.

17 posted on 11/01/2012 11:42:49 AM PDT by demkicker (My passion for freedom is stronger than that of Democrats whose obsession is to enslave me.)
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To: PhxRising

Thanks for asking THE question in the title of your thread.


18 posted on 11/01/2012 11:47:56 AM PDT by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: PhxRising

19 posted on 11/01/2012 11:52:59 AM PDT by timestax (Why not drug tests for the President AND all White Hut staff ? ? ?)
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To: timestax

20 posted on 11/01/2012 11:54:47 AM PDT by timestax (Why not drug tests for the President AND all White Hut staff ? ? ?)
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To: Suz in AZ

“What about the 30+ people who were supposedly saved? Who are they and where are they and what do they have to say about all this?”

If things really go south for Zero on this we can expect these 30+ people to vanish in a tragic boating accident.


21 posted on 11/01/2012 11:55:33 AM PDT by Wordkraft (Remember who the Collaborators are.)
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To: petitfour
When one takes a look back at the ClintonBody Count and the known mob and union thugs from Chicago, Hillary and Obama are a true match.

I think you are right to speculate on them using other ruses before this one and with their media accomplices, they've been able to pull it off until now. I just pray the truth will come out and that these evil people will be held accountable.

22 posted on 11/01/2012 11:57:45 AM PDT by demkicker (My passion for freedom is stronger than that of Democrats whose obsession is to enslave me.)
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To: Reddy

When the Koran was burned in Afghanistan by the US military due to prisoners writing in them and using them to communicate with one another, there was a lot of protesting and killing that followed. Two American officers were killed in an Afghan ministry building. One was a Lt Colonel who was described as “Afghanistan’s best friend.” There are a lot of articles on him and his work. His attitude and work remind me of Ambassador Stevens who was recognized as a friend to Libya among other Middle Eastern cultures. Anywho, here is an article on Lt Colonel Loftis.
http://www.afsoc.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123293009


23 posted on 11/01/2012 12:00:23 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: Humal

Ty Woods’ father told Hannity the other night that one of them told him that Ty had saved his life. So, they are out there... and not totally silent ...


24 posted on 11/01/2012 12:04:13 PM PDT by nanetteclaret (Unreconstructed Catholic Texan)
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To: Wordkraft; Suz in AZ

If I were them, I’d be leaking and have my story given to my atty in case of a suspicious early demise. They are probably right to be afraid.


25 posted on 11/01/2012 12:26:55 PM PDT by demkicker (My passion for freedom is stronger than that of Democrats whose obsession is to enslave me.)
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To: Reddy
Bingo. After giving the stand-down order, they (zero/hillbilly) expected no survivors/witnesses.

We might be rushing to judgment here.

Note that the mob later found the Ambassador, then took him to the hospital,..doctors worked to revive him for reportedly 90 minutes around 1am local time, but nobody recognized him as the Ambassador until reported to US folks about dawn local time.

If there objective had been to kill the Ambassador and leave no survivors, far more violent behavior would have been observed and he wouldn't have been taken to the hospital. Guards who had shot on the initial attackers were wounded but not slaughtered.

In regards to the ex-SEALs, the watch officer normally when speaking to elite individuals wouldn't remove them from the scene, even if he had parallel friendlies en route. Instead, they would typically be told to observe or lend a helping hand as a sniper to reinforce the other friendlies. IOW, they are known to be capable of operating independently and are valuable resources, especially for eyes on target, to verify other reports.

IMHO, the limited number of fires in the morning ceasing after they had been eliminated, and their being told to stand down, vice render supporting verification, indicates they might have been targeted as witnesses by friendlies, rather than as collateral damage.

26 posted on 11/01/2012 12:42:22 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: nanetteclaret

There hasn’t been a peep from Navy Seal Glen Doherty’s parents. I wonder why?


27 posted on 11/01/2012 12:48:59 PM PDT by demkicker (My passion for freedom is stronger than that of Democrats whose obsession is to enslave me.)
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To: PhxRising
It's because the attackers were his Muslim brothers. His loyalty is first to his god, Allah. His loyalty to America is very low on the list, if it's there at all. This should have been abundantly clear to anyone paying attention during the 2008 presidential campaign.
28 posted on 11/01/2012 12:55:35 PM PDT by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: demkicker

Good question!


29 posted on 11/01/2012 1:04:35 PM PDT by nanetteclaret (Unreconstructed Catholic Texan)
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To: nanetteclaret

I didn’t hear that. Did the person say any more than that?


30 posted on 11/01/2012 1:43:35 PM PDT by Humal
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To: Cvengr

“IMHO, the limited number of fires in the morning ceasing after they had been eliminated, and their being told to stand down, vice render supporting verification, indicates they might have been targeted as witnesses by friendlies, rather than as collateral damage.”

I’m sorry, I did not understand that sentence.


31 posted on 11/01/2012 4:34:04 PM PDT by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: demkicker; All
There hasn’t been a peep from Navy Seal Glen Doherty’s parents.

Glen's mother is a lifelong Democrat. She told Governor Romney to stop telling the story of how he met her son, because it was hurting President Obama.

Out of respect for her, Governor Romney stopped telling the story.

32 posted on 11/01/2012 5:56:37 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: Humal

That was all he said.


33 posted on 11/01/2012 7:35:03 PM PDT by nanetteclaret (Unreconstructed Catholic Texan)
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To: PhxRising

34 posted on 11/01/2012 7:41:02 PM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: Reddy

My apologies.

“IMHO, the limited number of fires by the attackers with mortar rounds (4 rounds, 1st one reportedly landing outside the Annex gates, the other 3 miraculously accurate, then no more mortar fire) in the morning( about 0400 local time at the Annex) ceasing after they (the 2 ex-SEALS) had been eliminated, and their (the 2 ex-SEALS) being told to stand down, vice render supporting verification, indicates they (the 2 ex-SEALs) might have been targeted as witnesses by friendlies (i.e. whomever destroyed them appeared to have been more controlled by Washington than by enemy forces at the Annex), rather than as collateral damage (2 contract employees just happening to be at the wrong place at the wrong time).”


35 posted on 11/01/2012 7:41:24 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: dannyboy72a

My Naval Colleges totally concur with you assumptions. They had to take out the loose-lipped bagman. All amateurs . Spiraling lie upon lie. Face the facts, Obama is sponsoring the brotherhoods jihad, forging together the caliphate.


36 posted on 11/01/2012 7:48:59 PM PDT by Broker (November... VICTORY or DEATH!!)
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To: GOPJ

Whatever it may be, whatever was going on, he was all in, he knew it was bigger than his campaign. He had, maybe, the greatest moment in any presidential campaign, ever. A BinLaden redo, the whole nine yards, 24/7 coverage right up to November 6th, of him ordering the mission to save the lives of 4 Americans. Real time rescue, guns blazing, he would have never looked back and we would be looking at President Obama for four more years. He stood down.


37 posted on 11/01/2012 7:54:12 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: Cvengr

Wow.


38 posted on 11/02/2012 8:53:07 PM PDT by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: Cvengr

I’ve heard from a very reliable source that the Ambassador was raped with a bayonet. I’m hoping that happened AFTER they killed him. I’ve also heard he may have actually died of smoke inhalation.


39 posted on 11/03/2012 1:41:10 PM PDT by demkicker (My passion for freedom is stronger than that of Democrats whose obsession is to enslave me.)
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To: marktwain
Glen's mother is a lifelong Democrat. She told Governor Romney to stop telling the story of how he met her son, because it was hurting President Obama.

Out of respect for her, Governor Romney stopped telling the story.

I cannot relate to any mother that would support this incompetent Marxist America hater that caused their son to die needlessly. I wonder if she'll feel differently when the truth finally does come out in hearings and prosecutions take place.

40 posted on 11/03/2012 1:47:49 PM PDT by demkicker (My passion for freedom is stronger than that of Democrats whose obsession is to enslave me.)
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