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New Obamacare Tax Form Mandates Americans Report Personal Health ID Info to IRS
Americans For Tax Reform.org ^ | November 1, 2012 1:09 PM EDT | Posted by Ryan Ellis and John Kartch

Posted on 11/01/2012 11:07:24 AM PDT by Red Badger

Here's why the IRS will require Americans to disclose their personal health ID information starting in 2014

When Obamacare’s individual mandate takes effect in 2014, all Americans who file income tax returns must complete an additional IRS tax form. The new form will require disclosure of a taxpayer’s personal identifying health information in order to determine compliance with the Affordable Care Act’s individual mandate.

As confirmed by IRS testimony to the tax-writing House Committee on Ways and Means, “taxpayers will file their tax returns reporting their health insurance coverage, and/or making a payment”.

So why will the Obama IRS require your personal identifying health information?

Simply put, there is no way for the IRS to enforce Obamacare’s individual mandate without such an invasive reporting scheme. Every January, health insurance companies across America will send out tax documents to each insured individual. This tax document—a copy of which will be furnished to the IRS—must contain sufficient information for taxpayers to prove that they purchased qualifying health insurance under Obamacare.

This new tax information document must, at a minimum, contain: the name and health insurance identification number of the taxpayer; the name and tax identification number of the health insurance company; the number of months the taxpayer was covered by this insurance plan; and whether or not the plan was purchased in one of Obamacare’s “exchanges.”

This will involve millions of new tax documents landing in mailboxes across America every January, along with the usual raft of W-2s, 1099s, and 1098s. At tax time, the 140 million families who file a tax return will have to get acquainted with a brand new tax filing form. Six million of these families will end up paying Obamacare’s individual mandate non-compliance tax penalty.

As a service to the public, Americans for Tax Reform has released a projected version of this tax form to help families and tax specialists prepare for this additional filing requirement. Taxpayers may view the projected IRS form at www.ObamacareTaxForm.com. On the form, lines 3-4 show where taxpayers will disclose their personal identifying health information.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government
KEYWORDS: 1040; invasive; irs; obamacare; tax
You will obey or you will pay.............
1 posted on 11/01/2012 11:07:27 AM PDT by Red Badger
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To: Red Badger

I intend to take a heavy black marker and “redact” my entire form. If nothing else it will screw up their autoread scanners and force them to input it by hand.


2 posted on 11/01/2012 11:13:47 AM PDT by apillar
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To: Red Badger

What happened to HIPPA?


3 posted on 11/01/2012 11:14:05 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Red Badger
If all those who will be Funding the parasites (Illegals, Union Workers, Government-dependent leeches) would simply STOP FILING INCOME taxes for ANY length of time, the parasites would be cut-off, and NO AMOUNT of unproductive government employees could handle the volume of chasing them for the dollars, period.

We need a real LEADER to stand up and say "this is America, and there is NO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO RE-DISTRIBUTE OUR EARNINGS, TO BUY YOUR VOTERBASE".

Lock 'n load, folks.

4 posted on 11/01/2012 11:15:14 AM PDT by traditional1 (Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: Red Badger

It will be left blank on my forms...

Always nice to have IRS come to the house and say “HI”.....


5 posted on 11/01/2012 11:21:42 AM PDT by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: Red Badger
Ah, no I won't.

The Kenyan must go.

6 posted on 11/01/2012 11:23:11 AM PDT by ex91B10 (We've tried the Soap Box,the Ballot Box and the Jury Box; ONE BOX LEFT!)
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To: Red Badger

I did a Google search on 0care and found an analysis on it. Nowhere are the individual taxpayers to file a separate form. The employers are the ones to do it.

The document was published on 2 July 2012 by the Congressional Research service, written by Janemarie Mulvey and Hinda Chaikind;

title is “Individual Mandate and Related Information Requirements under ACA”


7 posted on 11/01/2012 11:25:44 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: massgopguy

HIPPA prevents companies and doctors from sharing your medical information. You are perfectly free to share it to everybody, including the IRS. In theory they’ll have to follow HIPPA regulations too, in theory.


8 posted on 11/01/2012 11:26:06 AM PDT by discostu (Not a part of anyone's well oiled machine.)
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To: massgopguy

I’ve been asking that question of my Communist representatives since 2007. Did you hear the answer? Neither did I!

“Here is wisdom. He that hath understanding, let him count the number of the beast. For it is the number of a man: and the number of him is six hundred sixty-six.” Rev. 13:18


9 posted on 11/01/2012 11:33:12 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: discostu; Red Badger

What about this report

www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R41331.pdf

Says the employers are to fill out the form.


10 posted on 11/01/2012 11:41:13 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: Red Badger

And even though they claim (for now) that the IRS won’t have authority to collct as they do for taxes, they can take out the penalty from any tax refund you may have coming. Be sure that, if anything, your taxes are a little underpaid and send them a check just for the FIT.


11 posted on 11/01/2012 11:52:16 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: ex91B10

I will not comply.


12 posted on 11/01/2012 11:59:56 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: Red Badger

That has the potential to create jobs for 300,000 new bureaucrats just to keep tabs on it.


13 posted on 11/01/2012 12:21:31 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Red Badger

Don’t make us get out za probe, Comrade, it can be so messy.

who’da thunk.. in America? 2012?


14 posted on 11/01/2012 12:25:01 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: Red Badger

I guess if someone didn’t want to break the law, they could buy a policy just before filing, cancel the policy after filing, and remain uninsured for eleven months out of the year and still be compliant.


15 posted on 11/01/2012 12:33:21 PM PDT by Repealthe17thAmendment (Is this field required?)
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To: discostu

HIPPA should prevent your private health information from being shared with anyone but your doctor. But Obamacare requires all doctors to input ALL information on ALL patients into an Internet file. Who thinks the Dems won’t have access to private health info on their enemies? Sorta like those FBI files that turned up in the private residence of the WH when the Clintoons lived there.


16 posted on 11/01/2012 12:38:25 PM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: Red Badger; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; Impy; stephenjohnbanker; NFHale
When Obamacare’s individual mandate takes effect in 2014, all Americans who file income tax returns must complete an additional IRS tax form. The new form will require disclosure of a taxpayer’s personal identifying health information in order to determine compliance with the Affordable Care Act’s individual mandate.
As confirmed by IRS testimony to the tax-writing House Committee on Ways and Means, “taxpayers will file their tax returns reporting their health insurance coverage, and/or making a payment”.
RE :’So why will the Obama IRS require your personal identifying health information?
Simply put, there is no way for the IRS to enforce Obamacare’s individual mandate without such an invasive reporting scheme. Every January, health insurance companies across America will send out tax documents to each insured individual. This tax document—a copy of which will be furnished to the IRS—must contain sufficient information for taxpayers to prove that they purchased qualifying health insurance under Obamacare. “

??? How about electronic filing of tax returns? Hard to believe that they will end those. Maybe that info will be included electronically.

Of course if you don't comply and don't have enough withholding to get a refund there is nothing they can do to you legally. If you get a tax credit like EITC they can keep that.

The real costly mandates are the popular ones like pre-existing conditions.

17 posted on 11/01/2012 12:42:44 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: originalbuckeye

Thanks largely to the war on drugs the government has always been on the acceptable share list. Otherwise they couldn’t find out you have too many oxy prescriptions.


18 posted on 11/01/2012 1:06:09 PM PDT by discostu (Not a part of anyone's well oiled machine.)
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To: WildHighlander57

One way or the other they’re getting the data. Which is no big deal, they already were getting for drug enforcement purposes, it’s just another department getting it.


19 posted on 11/01/2012 1:13:03 PM PDT by discostu (Not a part of anyone's well oiled machine.)
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To: sickoflibs; Red Badger; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; Impy; stephenjohnbanker; ..

I won’t comply, this I guarantee you.


20 posted on 11/01/2012 1:20:43 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ((God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.))
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To: stephenjohnbanker
RE :”I won’t comply, this I guarantee you.”

You have to for the good of the country. Obama will be sending out unmanned drones to locate holdouts who ‘can afford’ to pay it.

In fact that would be a great job for the (undoc) Dreamers in AZ, to track down the holdouts for the IRS.

21 posted on 11/01/2012 1:30:50 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: Red Badger

bttt


22 posted on 11/01/2012 1:32:54 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: sickoflibs; Red Badger; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; Impy

” In fact that would be a great job for the (undoc) Dreamers in AZ, to track down the holdouts for the IRS. “

LOL.....most of them are hiding from the IRS.


23 posted on 11/01/2012 1:54:36 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ((God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.))
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To: Red Badger

Good GOD Almighty, if this isn’t enough motivation to throw the Marxist a-hole, Holder, the bitch Jarrett and company out on their collective rears, I don’t know what is.


24 posted on 11/01/2012 1:59:32 PM PDT by Marathoner (If the bastard were to win reelection, let America burn. IDGAF anymore.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

If you don’t comply then you aren’t providing the proof that you are acceptably insured and you pay the tax penalty. I think they’re OK with that.


25 posted on 11/01/2012 2:31:54 PM PDT by discostu (Not a part of anyone's well oiled machine.)
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To: discostu

What is your take on that document in the link I posted?

My employer takes out $ for the healthcare, so
A) government already knows I have healthcare coverage.
B) the employer should be the ones filling out the paperwork.


26 posted on 11/01/2012 4:12:35 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: WildHighlander57

My take is that’s why I buy tax preparing software and hopefully they will figure it out in the next couple of years before it becomes an issue. My guess is there will be a new checkbox on the W2 where in it is indicated whether or not your employer has provided you with acceptable insurance and informed the government of same, so if that box says they haven’t told the government you’ll have to and if it says they have you don’t have to.


27 posted on 11/02/2012 8:20:08 AM PDT by discostu (Not a part of anyone's well oiled machine.)
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To: sheikdetailfeather
Good. Mass resistance is the only recourse shy of firefights.

I didn't do it for Romneycare, and I won't do it for kenyancare.

The Kenyan must go.

28 posted on 11/02/2012 2:53:48 PM PDT by ex91B10 (We've tried the Soap Box,the Ballot Box and the Jury Box; ONE BOX LEFT!)
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