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Woman Blocked from Voting over 'Bible' T-Shirt
cbn.com ^ | 11/01/2012 | n/a

Posted on 11/01/2012 12:45:38 PM PDT by massmike

A woman was blocked from early voting near Austin, Texas, last week after wearing a T-shirt that said "Vote the Bible."

A pro-family group called Texas Values said election workers told resisdent Kay Hill at the Taylor City Hall polling place in Williamson County her shirt was quote "offensive."

She was told to turn the shirt inside out, go home and change, or cover up the words "Vote the Bible."

Hill tried to disagree but was eventually forced to cover up her Bible message. Poll workers reportedly provided a jacket for her to wear over the shirt.

"It's outrageous that a person of faith would be mistreated this way while trying to vote," Jonathan Saenz, president of Texas Values, said. "If this isn't voter intimidation, I don't know what is."

(Excerpt) Read more at cbn.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: austin; christianvote; election; electioneering; politicking; texas; tshirt; votethebible
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1 posted on 11/01/2012 12:45:41 PM PDT by massmike
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To: massmike

Williamson County is generally conservative, the opposite of Travis County where Austin is located. I don’t know about the city of Taylor.


2 posted on 11/01/2012 12:49:13 PM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (Are we nearing the end of the Obamanation?)
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To: massmike

Nothing wrong with the Tee-shirt, nor with advertisements promoting one candidate over the other, ...just don’t take them into the voting place or within its approach,...law says something like 100ft of the entrance, I believe.


3 posted on 11/01/2012 12:50:28 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: massmike

I’m wearing my

“NOBAMA”
“keep the change”

T-shirt this Tuesday.

It will be covered under my jacket before I vote.
After I pull the lever, my jacket comes off and I proudly walk out.


4 posted on 11/01/2012 12:51:01 PM PDT by BOOHA
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To: massmike

I’d bet that a “Vote AGAINST the Bible” T-Shirt would have been just fine, though...


5 posted on 11/01/2012 12:51:43 PM PDT by EasySt (Life is precious. Live it well.)
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To: massmike

No electioneering for God within 500 feet of the polls.


6 posted on 11/01/2012 12:51:57 PM PDT by arrogantsob (The Disaster MUST Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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To: Cvengr

I think some people just enjoy kicking the hornets’ nest;)


7 posted on 11/01/2012 12:52:17 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: massmike

Stupid,stupid,stupid.

I wouldn’t wear a shirt like that but what if it was a Catholic nun in a habit?

A Jew wearing a yarmulke?

.


8 posted on 11/01/2012 12:52:42 PM PDT by Mears
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To: massmike
I'm a conservative and a Christian, and here's my take: "Offensive" wasn't the word to use. "Illegal" is more like it. A shirt that says "vote" anything is a political message and should be left at home when voting. It has no business being worn at a polling place.
9 posted on 11/01/2012 12:53:20 PM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: Cvengr

In Maryland and WV voters are allowed to display campaign buttons while voting. They can not atempt to influence voters while there or loiter either before of after voting. This was a religious T shirt not campaign material and should have been allowed.


10 posted on 11/01/2012 12:55:28 PM PDT by muskah
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To: massmike
I am a Republican and have served as an election judge in Texas for the last 15 years. No one is allowed to bring anything into the polling place that makes anyone think that they are electioneering for one side of the other. Period. That is why there is a sign outside of every polling place that has the law written on it. And that is why no campaign worker is able to hand you any information past that sign.

Now if this lady was smart she would have worn a shirt with an American flag on it. That is acceptable. That is not electioneering. That is being patriotic and quite allowed.

No cell phones turned on. No cameras. No campaign signs. You are supposed to just go in to vote.

11 posted on 11/01/2012 12:56:33 PM PDT by Slyfox
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To: massmike

She should’a been wearing a “Sharia uber Alles” t-shirt.


12 posted on 11/01/2012 12:56:38 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Mears

A Muslim in explosive underpants?


13 posted on 11/01/2012 12:56:55 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Mass murder and cannibalism are the twin sacraments of socialism - "Who-whom?"-Lenin)
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To: Cvengr
What you're saying is correct, if one is wearing a political endorsement or a political repudiation for a named candidate or a named political party, or a named proposition which is on the ballot.

But something as non-specific as "Vote the Bible" must surely be outside of such regulations. What in particular does it promote from a partisan point of view?

Put not thy trust in princes? Hosanna to the Son of David? Woe to you rich?

14 posted on 11/01/2012 12:57:06 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Christ lui-meme est descendu et m'a prise." -- Simone Weil)
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To: massmike

Meanwhile, a second woman who sported a tee shirt marked, “F**k your neighbor’s mate, Abort the baby, Take drugs, Lie, Cheat, and Steal!” was admitted without challenge.

Naturally, the woman voted for Obama.


15 posted on 11/01/2012 1:01:09 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Cvengr
This is what I've been thinking of wearing when I go to vote Tuesday.

...unless it's about 11 degrees out,of course!


16 posted on 11/01/2012 1:01:11 PM PDT by massmike (The choice is clear in November: Romney or Caligula!)
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To: massmike
I'll be sporting this beauty on election day.


17 posted on 11/01/2012 1:02:10 PM PDT by Mich Patriot (PITCH BLACK is the new "transparent")
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To: BOOHA

LOL, Good one! My husband has several anti-Obama/Democrat T-shirts. I sort of cringe when he goes out in public wearing:

Democraps - The change that splatters.


18 posted on 11/01/2012 1:04:06 PM PDT by demkicker (My passion for freedom is stronger than that of Democrats whose obsession is to enslave me.)
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To: Slyfox

When in doubt wear a burka...eveyone is afraid
to mess with that sh*t!. s/


19 posted on 11/01/2012 1:04:08 PM PDT by seenenuf ( Save the Right Supremes.)
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To: massmike

things that may be considered offensive must be covered up?

ok...

then homos need to be covered up, as they offend me radically


20 posted on 11/01/2012 1:04:23 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: massmike

.... what would we say if the Muslims in Dearborn Michigan (aka Dearbornistan)wore t shirts saying “Vote Allah” ????

Or other t-shirts “Vote White” ... “Vote Black”.... “Vote Conservative” .... “Vote Liberal”....

Sorry to say, she is wrong on this one.


21 posted on 11/01/2012 1:07:42 PM PDT by Kinder Gentler Machinegun Hand
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To: Genoa

I wouldn’t want to see a “Vote the Koran” T-shirt at a polling station.


22 posted on 11/01/2012 1:07:48 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Mears

Go in to vote carrying/dragging a cross.


23 posted on 11/01/2012 1:09:50 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Cvengr; massmike
Correct. Texas law prohibits "electioneering" within 100 feet of any polling place.

Personally, I agree with her T-shirt slogan -- BUT, IMO,... any shirt with, "VOTE -- [anything]" displayed on it is blatant "electioneering", and deserves to be excluded from polling places.

24 posted on 11/01/2012 1:13:48 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: Cvengr

Exactly, it’s called electioneering, and it’s generally prohibited within a certain distance of the polls.


25 posted on 11/01/2012 1:17:32 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Cvengr
But there was no ad promoting any candidate on the t-shirt, so it was not illegal. So she should be able to wear it into the polling place. What we have here is someone interpretation of what is acceptable to wear, and they are dead wrong.
26 posted on 11/01/2012 1:18:30 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: Mears

Those wouldn’t be prohibited, since they are not attempting to influence anyone’s vote, therefore, not electioneering.


27 posted on 11/01/2012 1:19:38 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Frank_2001

I think some people like pushing other people around.

Mike


28 posted on 11/01/2012 1:19:55 PM PDT by doublecansiter (without cartridge, load in nine times, LOAD!)
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To: seenenuf
When in doubt wear a burka...eveyone is afraid to mess with that sh*t!. s/

Heh... just think if someone applied a dozen or so "Nobama" iron-on transfers to a burka? My, that would sure cause some conflicted feelings. ;-)

29 posted on 11/01/2012 1:22:42 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

It’s not outside the regulations when they slap the word “Vote” on it. They’ve put themselves squarely inside the regulations at that point.


30 posted on 11/01/2012 1:24:59 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: rawhide

I suspect if she had been wearing “John 3:16”, that would have been allowed, but the imperative, “Vote ...” triggered their response.


31 posted on 11/01/2012 1:27:41 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Boogieman
I am not familiar with the wording of the regulations, so you may be right.

Would a T-shirt that just said "Vote" be prohibited?

32 posted on 11/01/2012 1:28:34 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Have a day.)
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To: EasySt

Or ‘Vote the Koran’


33 posted on 11/01/2012 1:31:13 PM PDT by robowombat
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To: Slyfox
Having been a election judge in Texas, you would be the one
to ask. If the bible is not running for office or if no
bible related issue is on the ballot, would it still be
considered electioneering to wear a tee-shirt that had printed
on it “vote the bible”?

The article doesn't say anything about electioneering, it says
offensive.

How much longer will the American flag be acceptable?

Mike

34 posted on 11/01/2012 1:39:15 PM PDT by doublecansiter (without cartridge, load in nine times, LOAD!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Probably not, since it’s not trying to influence the vote in any way, but saying “Vote This” or “Vote That” clearly is an attempt to influence others’ votes, even if it is vague.


35 posted on 11/01/2012 1:43:56 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Genoa
"'Illegal' is more like it. A shirt that says 'vote' anything is a political message and should be left at home when voting."

At my polling place, the poll workers give out "I just voted" stickers to people when they vote. They should all be put in jail.

36 posted on 11/01/2012 1:46:36 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant
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To: Slyfox
"No one is allowed to bring anything into the polling place that makes anyone think that they are electioneering for one side of the other."

How does her shirt favor one side or the other? It is as American as apple pie.

37 posted on 11/01/2012 1:52:17 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant
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To: massmike

Forced??
I would have called the Police and requested assistance in getting in to vote.
These peons have no Constitutional Authority to prevent people from voting


38 posted on 11/01/2012 1:53:41 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: seenenuf

Ok, here’s my idea incorporating everything we’ve discussed here:

Wear a Burka with American flag imprinted on the front & BIBLE written right under it! That should work!


39 posted on 11/01/2012 2:00:30 PM PDT by parisa
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To: SECURE AMERICA
Forced?? I would have called the Police and requested assistance in getting in to vote. These peons have no Constitutional Authority to prevent people from voting

Exactly. This was not electioneering for the simple reason that the "Bible" is not on the ballot. END of discussion. Police should have been called, and these people should have been arrested if they didn't back down. If the cop refused the arrest, a formal complaint should have been made, and these people should be sued in their personal capacities, because they have NO authority to stop this person from voting. NONE. This is fricking outrageous.

40 posted on 11/01/2012 2:06:51 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Boogieman

“Those wouldn’t be prohibited, since they are not attempting to influence anyone’s vote, therefore, not electioneering.”

=

I get your point but I doubt that The Bible was on the ballot.

What a world. :-)

.


41 posted on 11/01/2012 2:08:50 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Cvengr

My sister is a poll worker in Wisconsin and she told me you can wear t-shirts and buttons into the polling places, you just can’t campaign within 100 yards. She does work in a very conservative district.


42 posted on 11/01/2012 2:28:35 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: Genoa

I’m a conservative and a Christian, and here’s my take: “Offensive” wasn’t the word to use. “Illegal” is more like it. A shirt that says “vote” anything is a political message and should be left at home when voting. It has no business being worn at a polling place.

^^^
You captured my reaction exactly.

If her shirt said “Follow the Bible” I would take her side in this.


43 posted on 11/01/2012 2:31:30 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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To: Kinder Gentler Machinegun Hand

Well then what about VETO “0” Same letters just changed around


44 posted on 11/01/2012 2:36:58 PM PDT by Clay+Iron_Times (Psalms 118:9)
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To: EasySt
I’d bet that a “Vote AGAINST the Bible” T-Shirt would have been just fine, though...

Nope that would be illegal too! The key words here are not "the Bible".

"Vote", "Vote For" and "Vote Against" on anything is not allowed within a polling place or within so many feet of a polling place.

45 posted on 11/01/2012 2:36:58 PM PDT by TexanByBirth (Free Republic: where they may agree with the message, but they love to shoot the messenger!)
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To: Boogieman
I don't buy that, really. As I see it, the only content they can suppress is content that applies to something on the ballot. A candidate, a party, a proposition.

Something not related to a given election is simply not electioneering---


46 posted on 11/01/2012 3:01:30 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Stone cold sober, as a matter of fact.)
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To: TexanByBirth

All the voting locations in Iowa have big signs loudly encouraging citizens to “VOTE HERE”. I don’t know anything about Here or Here’s platform, but Here gets away with campaigning ten feet from all the polls in Iowa every election. Here’s some sort of perennial candidate, like LaRouche.


47 posted on 11/01/2012 3:04:12 PM PDT by Brent Calvert 03969-030
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To: TexanByBirth
"Nope that would be illegal too!"

I know, I just suspect that, illegal or not, a Vote Against the Bible T-Shirt would not get one stopped nearly as fast as a Vote the Bible T-Shirt would.
This is an era of selective enforcement, after all...
48 posted on 11/01/2012 3:08:11 PM PDT by EasySt (Life is precious. Live it well.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

The problem is, you don’t think those are trying to influence someone’s vote, but someone else would. So, it’s too subjective of a standard. I think that’s why the laws are so broad, to err on the safe side.


49 posted on 11/01/2012 3:31:27 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Brent Calvert 03969-030

I’m actually surprised, after reading your post, that no Chicago politicians have tried changing their last name to “Here” just for the election. There are actually quite a few cases of Chicago judges changing their names to sound Irish, because they know people tend to have no idea who the judges are, and just vote for all the O’Briens and McConnellys out of ethnic loyalty.


50 posted on 11/01/2012 3:34:30 PM PDT by Boogieman
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