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Joe Biden says he and Obama ‘share the values of the Catholics’ in new ad
Life Site News ^ | October 31, 2012 | THADDEUS BAKLINSKI

Posted on 11/01/2012 2:37:47 PM PDT by NYer

October 31, 2012 (LifeSiteNews.com) - In a campaign video released this week, Vice President Joe Biden claims that President Obama shares his belief in the social teachings of the Catholic Church.

“As a practicing Catholic, like many of you,” Biden says, “I was raised in a household where there was no distinction between the values my mom and dad drilled into us and what I learned from the nuns and priests who educated me. We call it Catholic social doctrine.”

“I’m here to tell you that President Obama shares those values,” Biden states.

He illustrates the point by quoting the president as having said “time and again” that “we are our brother’s (and sister’s) keeper,” in reference to Jesus’ moral imperative that “what you do to the least of these you do to me.”

Biden says that under the Obama administration, the “middle class” have been given “a dignified opportunity to care for themselves and their families” through “affordable care, quality health care for all Americans.”

“And that’s why we’re asking the wealthy to pay more, while pushing to make permanent the middle class tax cut.”

Biden then attacks Mitt Romney, without naming him, as “someone who would leave a million people without access to health care and education.”

Biden concludes with contact information for “Catholics for Obama.”

While Biden frequently describes himself as Catholic, he has been strongly criticized by Catholic bishops for supporting anti-Catholic causes such as abortion and same-sex “marriage.” 

During the 2008 campaign, he faced public reprimands from bishops when he claimed on Meet the Press that there is room for disagreement on the abortion issue in the Catholic Church, and that the idea that life begins at conception is a “matter of faith,” not natural law.

In a controversial “Meet the Press” interview earlier this year, Biden endorsed same-sex “marriage,” saying he was “absolutely comfortable with the fact that men marrying men, women marrying women, and heterosexual men and women marrying another are entitled to the same exact rights, all the civil rights, all the civil liberties. And quite frankly, I don’t see much of a distinction – beyond that.”

In his recent debate with Congressman Paul Ryan, Biden touted his Catholic faith, while expressing his support for abortion.

Biden said that while in his “personal life” he accepts the Catholic Church’s teaching that life begins at conception, “I refuse to impose it on equally devout Christians, and Muslims and and Jews…I just refuse to do that, unlike my friend here.”

“I do not believe that we have a right to tell other people, women that they cannot control their body. It’s a decision between them and their doctor in my view, and the Supreme Court,” Biden said.

Ryan observed in turn: “I don’t see how a person can separate their private life from their public life or their faith. Our faith informs us in everything we do. My faith informs me about how to take care of the vulnerable, about how to make sure that people have a chance of life.

“Now, you want to ask about why I’m pro-life. It’s not simply because of my Catholic faith. That’s a factor of course. But it’s also because of reason and science,” said Ryan.

Deal Hudson, who served as director of Catholic Outreach for George W. Bush, recently wrote about a call from a Catholics for Obama campaign canvasser who claimed that Obama does not support abortion.

The canvasser, who described herself as Catholic, was asked by the person she called, “How can you as a Catholic support a president who supports partial birth abortion and did not support the Born Alive Protection Act when he was a state senator in Illinois?”

The Obama supporter, apparently reading from her call script, responded, “President Obama did not support abortion,” and added for good measure, “Planned Parenthood helps children get health care and prenatal care and does not promote abortion.”

“Stunning, isn’t it?” wrote Hudson. “The lies people are willing to tell.”


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: biden; catholic; obama
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1 posted on 11/01/2012 2:38:02 PM PDT by NYer
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2 posted on 11/01/2012 2:39:20 PM PDT by NYer ("Before I formed you in the womb I knew you." --Jeremiah 1:5)
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To: NYer; FatherofFive

This makes me want to hurl. This B@$T@RD need to be formally excommunicated.


3 posted on 11/01/2012 2:43:23 PM PDT by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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To: NYer

Biden is correct of course because Catholic also follow the Koran and Mohammed as does Hussein. /sarc


4 posted on 11/01/2012 2:45:59 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: NYer

Biden IS NOT A PRACTICING Catholic, unless he belongs to some “Catholic” sect that is not in good standing with the Church of Rome. No person that advocates for murdering unborn children and homosexual “marriage” can call themselves a member of the Roman Catholic Church. He’s a hypocrite SOB is what he is.


5 posted on 11/01/2012 2:46:29 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: NYer

Biden is correct of course because Catholic also follow the Koran and Mohammed as does Hussein. /sarc


6 posted on 11/01/2012 2:46:29 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: NYer

Absolute desperation. I like what this portends.


7 posted on 11/01/2012 2:47:13 PM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: NYer

8 posted on 11/01/2012 2:47:28 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: NYer

Pass the vomit bag!

Lies, damned lies.


9 posted on 11/01/2012 2:47:40 PM PDT by magdalen (abortion)
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To: NYer

I thought Catholics did not believe in lying...


10 posted on 11/01/2012 2:49:09 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: NYer

Ok, yes, Mr. Biden, Catholic Social teaching is ALL about forcing it’s members to pay for contraceptives even though that goes against it’s very teachings. huh??? And your pro-abortion positions...also so pro-Catholic?! What is wrong with you?

Oh my, these people, please OH please say they’ll be gone by next week.


11 posted on 11/01/2012 2:50:15 PM PDT by MiddleEarth (With hope or without hope we'll follow the trail of our enemies. Woe to them, if we prove the faster)
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Biden says it’s between a woman and her doctor.....and the supreme court. I guess God doesn’t have a say in the matter.


12 posted on 11/01/2012 2:51:25 PM PDT by Terry Mross (To former friends and relatives. Don't ever contact me if you still support obama.)
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“As a practicing Catholic, like many of you,” Biden says, “I was raised in a household where there was no distinction between the values my mom and dad drilled into us and what I learned from the nuns and priests who educated me. We call it Catholic social doctrine.”

"I’m here to tell you that President Obama shares those values,” Biden states.

Makes perfect sense to me!
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13 posted on 11/01/2012 2:52:21 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Semper Reformanda!)
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To: NYer
“we are our brother’s (and sister’s) keeper,” in reference to Jesus’ moral imperative that “what you do to the least of these you do to me.”

I think a baby would qualify as the "least of these".

When Biden says he shares the values of catholics, he means he shares the values of Pelosi catholics. And I would agree.

There are God-fearing, God-believing Catholic Christians, and then there are Pelosi-Biden-catholics whose messiah is soon to be run out of the White House on a rail.

14 posted on 11/01/2012 2:53:12 PM PDT by marron
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To: NKP_Vet

No genuine Catholic person of Biden’s wealth would give a measly $369 a year on average to charity. Biden is one of those fake Catholics who believe that the government confiscating other people’s money substitutes for charity. No way.


15 posted on 11/01/2012 2:55:39 PM PDT by NotTallTex
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To: NYer

The vacuous empty headed Joe Biden is a Catholic in name only who always has supported abortion.We can now add liar to his list of sins. Paul Ryan is a true Catholic who opposes abortion and gay marriage. Obama is off the charts when it comes to opposing every social and religious tenet of the Catholic Church.


16 posted on 11/01/2012 2:57:57 PM PDT by chuckee
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To: NYer

Its funny now, in a sad way, that a lot of people thought Obama was a Christian when he first burst onto the scene in 2004 and in the early days of his 2008 campaign. One look at Jeremiah Wright woke most people up though.

Biden is a christian like Obama and Wright are christians. You have to wonder about the people who fall for it.


17 posted on 11/01/2012 2:58:01 PM PDT by marron
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To: NotTallTex

Hell, I’ve probably given more in the last 3 months than Biden did all year and I probably make 1/1000th what he makes in a year.


18 posted on 11/01/2012 2:58:32 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: NYer

He left out the debased part.


19 posted on 11/01/2012 2:58:41 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (WINNING IS EVERYTHING!)
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To: NYer

Crazy Joe, “Don’t pay any attention to those pesky priests, bishops, archbishops and cardinals. What do they know?”

“We don’t even know how big their balls are.”


20 posted on 11/01/2012 3:00:16 PM PDT by arrogantsob (The Disaster MUST Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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To: NYer

Barrack Obama is a Muslim.

Joe Biden is a lying, two faced, Apostate.

One day God will judge him.

I wouldn’t want to be standing next to him.


21 posted on 11/01/2012 3:02:32 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: NYer
Blatant liar. The Nuns should have smacked some truth telling into that boy, but if they did, it didn't take.

Where did he learn all of that testifying falsely against his neighbor stuff?

22 posted on 11/01/2012 3:05:03 PM PDT by GBA (Vote as if your Freedom depended on it...)
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To: GBA

Tells me they may be seeing a problem with Catholic voters.


23 posted on 11/01/2012 3:10:51 PM PDT by georgia peach (georgia peach)
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To: NYer

That’s the best laugh Iv’eheard all week. Do they really think Catholics are going to swallow that? Not if they’re real Catholics.


24 posted on 11/01/2012 3:11:07 PM PDT by navyblue (<u>)
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To: NYer; Alex Murphy
...Vice President Joe Biden claims that President Obama shares his belief in the social teachings of the Catholic Church.

Lets hope that now that the Roman Catholic Church has seen how their "social justice" approach has come back to hurt them they will re-evaluate it. If Romney wins a lot of the swing states a big factor will be the Roman Catholic vote. It's been encouraging to see several Bishops require letters to be read at their masses.

I'm very interested to see how the vote breaks down. It seems that White Catholics favor the Pubs by a slight majority and minority Catholics favor the Rats by a larger majority. IOW, if there isn't a big shift in the aggregate vote after their church has been very vocal in their disapproval of the obama admn policies we probably shouldn't be thinking of a "Catholic" vote, but rather the various groups that comprise it.

25 posted on 11/01/2012 3:11:13 PM PDT by wmfights
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To: navyblue

Biden is one piece of work...warm spit.


26 posted on 11/01/2012 3:13:01 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: NYer

Catholic Bishop: Joe Biden 'Ought Not to Be Receiving Communion'


27 posted on 11/01/2012 3:14:11 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: NYer

They are actually putting out an ad aimed at Catholics?

I guess they are losing the Catholic vote.


28 posted on 11/01/2012 3:16:00 PM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: NYer
Catholic bishops make last-minute pitch for Romney

A number of Roman Catholic bishops are making forceful last-minute appeals to their flock to vote on Election Day, and their exhortations are increasingly sounding like calls to support Republican challenger Mitt Romney over President Obama.
29 posted on 11/01/2012 3:18:21 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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“As a practicing Catholic, like many of you,” Biden says, “I was raised in a household where there was no distinction between the values my mom and dad drilled into us and what I learned from the nuns and priests who educated me. We call it Catholic social doctrine.”

So his parents were as poor at practicing Catholicism as Biden is today according to Slow Joe. I'm not surprised.

Catholic social Doctrine? I think not. It is Catholic Doctrine and Slow Joe would know that if he weren't so fixated on Socialism.

30 posted on 11/01/2012 3:20:51 PM PDT by An American In Dairyland
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To: NYer

Deomcrats are now thanking Chris Christie for Obama’s win..


31 posted on 11/01/2012 3:21:10 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: NYer

Senile Dementia.


32 posted on 11/01/2012 3:24:30 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: chuckee
I now of a Catholic church that has a priest that thinks Obama is the greatest thing since sliced bread. He seems to completely ignore Obama's love for abortion. The priest that baptized one of my daughters was arrested for protesting an abortion clinic. This new guy is not cut from the same cloth.

Since at least the 1970's, the libs have been infiltrating the church to rot it from the inside. It is now filled with priests that are not fully inline with the churches teachings. Some are outright teaching false Catholic doctrine. See the link below

Excommunication in Rochester - Rev Callan and the Corpus Christi Church

33 posted on 11/01/2012 3:26:57 PM PDT by Dutch Boy
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Obama's Unprecedented Collapse Among Catholic Voters Puts Midwest in Play

Yesterday, the Romney campaign told reporters that it expected to win at least some of the “blue states” in which it is now competing with Obama in the Midwest, including Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Minnesota. The campaign did not give a specific reason for its optimism, but one thing these states have in common is a high proportion of Catholic voters. And Catholic voters have shifted dramatically towards Mitt Romney.
34 posted on 11/01/2012 3:29:13 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: NYer
I'm reading this and got that vomit backing up my throat.

Those vomit burps.

35 posted on 11/01/2012 3:33:35 PM PDT by hummingbird (Obama campaigns right in our faces. Doesn't bother him at all, does it?)
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To: verga

Speaking of this; I was telling my supervisor about the mandate in OBAMACARE that forces Catholic hospitals and institutions to provide abortions and contraception.

According to what he told me, that is isn’t true. He said that the administration agree to exempt them from this. Does anyone here know what that is about? Thank you.


36 posted on 11/01/2012 3:44:31 PM PDT by Jean2
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To: NYer
Biden concludes with contact information for “Catholics for Obama"

Is he saying that a Catholic is a hop, skip and jump from a Muslim.

Here, I'm getting that vomit burp again.

37 posted on 11/01/2012 4:00:06 PM PDT by hummingbird (Obama campaigns right in our faces. Doesn't bother him at all, does it?)
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"We call it Catholic social doctrine.”

There is that sneakiness - "social doctrine".

We called it being Catholic and identified Catholics who were good standing - Catholics. We share with our brothers and sisters in the Episcopal Church.

But, making a leap from Roman Catholics to Islam, especially radical Islam is to just wait and let the lightning strike.

Forgive me for making the leap, but I'm blaming it on the Acid Vomit Burps. Mea Culpa!

38 posted on 11/01/2012 4:13:35 PM PDT by hummingbird (Obama campaigns right in our faces. Doesn't bother him at all, does it?)
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"It’s a decision between them and their doctor in my view, and the Supreme Court,” Biden said."

Isn't the father counted? There have been a few cases of fathers demanding their rights to having the baby born.

39 posted on 11/01/2012 4:19:45 PM PDT by hummingbird (Obama campaigns right in our faces. Doesn't bother him at all, does it?)
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To: Alex Murphy

Intriguing collection of threads. Thanks for sharing!


40 posted on 11/01/2012 4:30:45 PM PDT by Gamecock (Bayonets, Benghazi, Balls, Binders, Big Bird, Birth Control, BS.....)
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To: georgia peach

A part of me wonders what took so long, but I’m none the less grateful for this small victory.


41 posted on 11/01/2012 4:33:13 PM PDT by GBA (Vote as if your Freedom depended on it...)
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To: marron
"I think a baby would qualify as the "least of these".

Yes, that is key.

42 posted on 11/01/2012 4:35:35 PM PDT by hummingbird (Obama campaigns right in our faces. Doesn't bother him at all, does it?)
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To: hummingbird

Listen to the audio of State Sen. 0bama on partial-birth abortion. He addresses the issue of the ‘child.’ He uses that term specifically, IIRC, in terms of an ‘accidental’ live birth and who would need to kill the baby.

Catholic. Yeah, right.


43 posted on 11/01/2012 4:38:57 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: NYer

Like abortion, and gay marriage?


44 posted on 11/01/2012 5:20:26 PM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: verga

When will a Bishop tell Biden he is not welcome in his church?


45 posted on 11/01/2012 5:38:10 PM PDT by doug from upland (I don't like RINOs, but I love my country more than I hate Romney...Muslim marxist, get out!)
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To: NYer

What a crock of crap!!! What he says reminds me of the case of a guy near my hometown who was shot by the irate husband of a woman the guy was fooling around with. Everyone said: “Jimmy was a good man he didn’t smoke, drink or use bad language.” Seems to me they missed a couple of rather important qualities.


46 posted on 11/01/2012 7:39:36 PM PDT by Nuocmam
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To: NKP_Vet

Biden is a CINO. Catholic in Name Only


47 posted on 11/01/2012 8:43:38 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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