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In Benghazi timeline, CIA errors but no evidence of conspiracy
The Washington Post ^ | 11/01/2012 | David Ignatius

Posted on 11/01/2012 4:16:38 PM PDT by Calpublican

A detailed CIA timeline of the assault on U.S. facilities in Benghazi paints an anguishing picture of embattled Americans waiting for Libyan local security forces that didn’t come and courageous CIA officers who died on a rooftop without the heavy weapons they needed, trying to protect their colleagues below.

It’s a story of individual bravery, but also of a CIA misjudgment in relying on Libyan militias and a newly formed Libyan intelligence organization to keep Americans safe in Benghazi. While there were multiple errors that led to the final tragedy, there’s no evidence that the White House or CIA leadership deliberately delayed or impeded rescue efforts.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: benghazi; clintontreason; libya; obamablamescia; obamatreason; post; washington; wp4obamathetraitor
We can all rest easy now that this has been thoroughly investigated and solved by the Post. No need for Congressional hearings.
1 posted on 11/01/2012 4:16:43 PM PDT by Calpublican
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2 posted on 11/01/2012 4:19:53 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=om93destr)
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To: RedMDer

Looking for the scapegoat once again


3 posted on 11/01/2012 4:21:05 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (bb)
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To: RedMDer

Sure, ComPost...our Seals were painting a mortar with a laser because they believed in Libyan militia airpower, predators, and AC130 gunships.

They also believed in the Easter Bunny and the tooth fairy.


4 posted on 11/01/2012 4:22:34 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Calpublican

WaPo spinning like mad to try and save their boy, the Kenyan Communist.


5 posted on 11/01/2012 4:23:31 PM PDT by MtBaldy (If Obama is the answer, it must have been a really stupid question)
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To: Calpublican

They make themselves look like fools when they put forth this kind of cover story for the administration.


6 posted on 11/01/2012 4:28:45 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: Calpublican
●1:15 a.m.: CIA reinforcements arrive on a 45-minute flight from Tripoli in a plane they’ve hastily chartered. The Tripoli team includes four GRS security officers, a CIA case officer and two U.S. military personnel on loan to the agency. They don’t leave the Benghazi airport until 4:30 a.m. The delay is caused by negotiations with Libyan authorities over permission to leave the airport; obtaining vehicles; and the need to frame a clear mission plan. The first idea is to go to a Benghazi hospital to recover Stevens, who they rightly suspect is already dead. But the hospital is surrounded by the al-Qaeda-linked Ansar al-Sharia militia that mounted the consulate attack.

I guess Barry's new fifteen minute rule for cutting red tape doesn't apply to "Libyan authorities".

7 posted on 11/01/2012 4:35:11 PM PDT by Argus
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To: Calpublican
C Y A

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8 posted on 11/01/2012 4:37:41 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Pres__ent Resident NBC NRD N3pmCs HCR / no birth C / no req docs / no 3pm calls / he can read)
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To: RedMDer

Security for State Department personnel is CIA’s call...? This is the Wash-Post first foray into the subject in weeks and the premiss is 180 degrees out of phase....surprise!


9 posted on 11/01/2012 4:38:14 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: Calpublican
1:15 a.m.: CIA reinforcements arrive on a 45-minute flight from Tripoli in a plane they’ve hastily chartered. The Tripoli team includes four GRS security officers, a CIA case officer and two U.S. military personnel on loan to the agency. They don’t leave the Benghazi airport until 4:30 a.m. The delay is caused by negotiations with Libyan authorities over permission to leave the airport; obtaining vehicles; and the need to frame a clear mission plan. The first idea is to go to a Benghazi hospital to recover Stevens, who they rightly suspect is already dead. But the hospital is surrounded by the al-Qaeda-linked Ansar al-Sharia militia that mounted the consulate attack.

Obama should have been on the phone with the President of Libya to facilitate things. Three hours at the airport? And then they know the hospital is surrounded by an a AQ linked organization? Why wasn't this called a terrorist attack rather than a spontaneous attack linked to a video.

Now that we have the timeline, the investigation really begins. And that timeline was available on September 11 and 12. Obama and Hillary lied their asses off to us and it makes the ceremony at Andrews a disgusting farce.

10 posted on 11/01/2012 4:44:36 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Argus
...The delay is caused by negotiations with Libyan authorities over permission to leave the airport...

When our embassy is under attack, the only terms in any negotiation should be "get the hell out of our way and we will let you live".

11 posted on 11/01/2012 4:44:57 PM PDT by Never on my watch (I can see November from the Chick-Fil-A drive through lane.)
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To: Argus
...The delay is caused by negotiations with Libyan authorities over permission to leave the airport...

When our embassy is under attack, the only terms in any negotiation should be "get the hell out of our way and we will let you live".

12 posted on 11/01/2012 4:45:43 PM PDT by Never on my watch (I can see November from the Chick-Fil-A drive through lane.)
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To: Calpublican

notice the story talks about the involvement of the GRS, a detail coming out tonight about how they were not used.

washpoo trying to get ahead of the story to control spin

also, the crew arrived at the airport THREE HOURS after it started... and then they waited another THREE hours before getting out of the airport

pathetic

we had / have a delta team within ONE HOUR of that embassy... WHY weren’t they deployed?


13 posted on 11/01/2012 4:48:04 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Argus
...The delay is caused by negotiations with Libyan authorities over permission to leave the airport...

When our embassy is under attack, the only terms in any negotiation should be "get the hell out of our way and we will let you live".

14 posted on 11/01/2012 4:49:00 PM PDT by Never on my watch (I can see November from the Chick-Fil-A drive through lane.)
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To: Fitzy_888

Exactly right. The CIA should not have been calling the shots on this or been the lead agency. The WH should have been in charge. And Obama and Hillary should have been on the phone immediately getting the Libyan government to rush protection to the annex at a minimum. I can understand the consulate being attacked without adequate host government protection, but there is no way that almost seven hours later the annex was without host country protection. Sending 6 people from Tripoli was not adequate.


15 posted on 11/01/2012 4:49:08 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Calpublican

Oh,....OK....if WaPo says so...


16 posted on 11/01/2012 4:49:18 PM PDT by uncitizen (Arrest The Traitor Today!)
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To: Calpublican

Well I guess by now the traitors have had time to come up with a plausible sounding story.

But how to explain all the contradictory stories that have already been published?

Also, what is the source of this story? I could have done much better than this :)

And, why has it taken this long for such a simple timeline to be published?

I call BS on this.


17 posted on 11/01/2012 4:49:49 PM PDT by upchuck (Our margin of victory this November 6th MUST BE greater than their margin of fraud.)
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To: Fitzy_888
Mr. Ignatius: If I was Obama, I'd just tell you to PLEASE stop trying to "help" me with this debacle.

Your "defense" is so easily picked apart, and makes you look like a complete A$$hole.

If anything, this article raises even MORE questions about Obama's incompetence.

I never thought it would happen, but the MSM is actually hurting the One by tying itself in knots trying to defend the indefensible.

18 posted on 11/01/2012 4:54:05 PM PDT by boop ("I need another Cutty Sark"-LBJ)
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Click.

19 posted on 11/01/2012 4:57:31 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=om93destr)
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To: upchuck

keep in mind, we had live comms... and it SHOULD all be recorded somewhere

congress must DEMAND to be able to review ALL data and render a judgement (won’t be able to declassify... but the congressman should have clearance)

of course, the congressman must not be out to bury the story


20 posted on 11/01/2012 4:58:06 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: upchuck
This story with the timeline will set off a firestorm. Anyone who knows what the proper response is to an event like this will tear it to pieces.

The title, "In Benghazi timeline, CIA errors but no evidence of conspiracy," will not tamp down the controversy but rather add gasoline to the fire. Ignatius may not understand what he has provided, but I will bet a million dollars that there will be plenty of former WH, intel, and military officials will go ballistic when reading this. The fire has been started and it will spread to the WH by tomorrow. This article raises so many questions, it is impossible to list them all.

21 posted on 11/01/2012 4:58:10 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Calpublican
Okay, Mr Ignatius, your in the situation room, when the initial phone call came, Obama gave an order to “secure those Americans”, how long do you watch video from the drones before you figure out the orders aren’t being followed?

a. 1 hour
b. 2 hours
c. 4 hours
d. 7 hours

Obama says when the initial phone call came, he gave an order to “secure those Americans”;
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/22/transcript-presidential-debate-on-foreign-policy-at-lynn-university/

Obama “Now with respect to Libya, as I indicated in the last debate, when we received that phone call, I immediately made sure that, number one, that we did everything we could to secure those Americans who were still in harm’s way;”

22 posted on 11/01/2012 5:12:44 PM PDT by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: Calpublican

“.......there’s no evidence that the White House or CIA leadership deliberately delayed or impeded rescue efforts.”

Do their dead bodies count as evidence??

“Delayed” vs Denied—Truth vs Lied—25 minutes vs 6 to 7 hours of battle.... it all seems like such small and insignificant differences, huh.


23 posted on 11/01/2012 5:30:36 PM PDT by Gator113 (I would have voted for NEWT, now it's Romney & Ryan.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: Calpublican

Question: Will a CBS story be enough impetus for the other sycophants (ABC and NBC) to pick up what’s left of their dignity and cover the story...?


24 posted on 11/01/2012 5:36:58 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: Gator113

So the Navy Seals can extract a hostage from SOMALIA but we can’t extract people under fire in Libya???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CattX4r0swc


25 posted on 11/01/2012 5:37:09 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: kabar
Every administration since Jimmy Carter has worked from the fear of another Iranian hostage-style kidnapping of diplomatic personnel--except the Obama administration it would seem.

Obama is lucky the terrorists killed instead of took hostages. He'd be lucky to carry Chicago on Tuesday.

26 posted on 11/01/2012 5:38:03 PM PDT by kristinn (Dump the Chump in 2012)
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To: xzins
"our Seals were painting a mortar with a laser" This CIA interview/interpretation/article disputes that. Here's the source of Ignatius article: "The CIA timeline was described to me Thursday by a senior intelligence official." Do we have independent validation that the Seals were painting the target? I'm putting together my own LibyaGate file: ●5:15 a.m.: A new Libyan assault begins, this time with mortars. Two rounds miss and the next three hit the roof. The rooftop defenders never “laser the mortars,” as has been reported. They don’t know the weapons are in place until the indirect fire begins, nor are they observed by the drone overhead. The defenders have focused their laser sights earlier on several Libyan attackers, as warnings not to fire. At 5:26 the attack is over. Woods and Doherty are dead and two others are wounded.
27 posted on 11/01/2012 6:03:27 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (Tea Party like it's 1773! Repeal the Federal Reserve Act of 1913! Pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: Calpublican
...The delay is caused by negotiations with Libyan authorities over permission to leave the airport...

That is nothing less than an admission of craven cowardliness and a complete absence of leadership. In a back-handed and dishonest way WaPo has nailed it.

28 posted on 11/01/2012 6:16:41 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: Calpublican

Good an official timeline, close. The holes in the story show up in the time line. Delay at the airport, hospital surrounded? Holes to cover the time needed to negotiate for the return of Stevens body? Time to secure what was left of weapons in the warehouses.


29 posted on 11/01/2012 6:47:54 PM PDT by GSAonce
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To: upchuck
I call BS on this.

I'll second that.
30 posted on 11/01/2012 7:17:02 PM PDT by Girlene
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To: Calpublican

Ignatius back to his coverup mode. Gee, his honest reporting lasted about two paragraphs.

Guess the Wash. Post is now the DC edition of the Al Qaeda Gazette and Goat-Humping Herald


31 posted on 11/01/2012 7:59:01 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: SeattleBruce; All
From the article: ....."●11:56 p.m.: CIA officers at the annex are attacked by a rocket-propelled grenade and small arms. Sporadic attacks continue for about another hour. The attacks stop at 1:01 a.m., "........

then this:

●5:15 a.m.: A new Libyan assault begins, this time with mortars. Two rounds miss and the next three hit the roof. The rooftop defenders never “laser the mortars,” as has been reported. They don’t know the weapons are in place until the indirect fire begins, nor are the mortars observed by the drone overhead. The defenders have focused their laser sights earlier on several Libyan attackers, as warnings not to fire. At 5:26 the attack is over. Woods and Doherty are dead and two others are wounded.

First question....I'm assuming RPG's are different than mortars?

Second question - how would Libyan attackers know laser sights were on them in order to be warned off?

Third question - Regardless of whether the Libyan attackers had RPG's or mortars, why wouldn't we want to take them out if we could? We knew where they were, had them painted, but can't take them out because we have no air support, right?

Just trying to understand this latest "official" intelligence version vs. the damning story that Jennifer Griffin gave based on source(s?) who were actually on the ground in Benghazi.
32 posted on 11/01/2012 8:06:25 PM PDT by Girlene
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To: upchuck

Your screen name is what I wanted to do when I read this story. It is so weak and full of holes as pointed out by you and others here.


33 posted on 11/01/2012 8:52:26 PM PDT by Calpublican
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To: Fitzy_888
The simple explanation for that would be the whole operation was a CIA weapons deal gone bad. That's why they needed the video/protest cover story that fell apart. It's the only thing that would make any sense. Why else would Ambassador Stephens be in Benghazi with minimal security and only the CIA to step in and help when things got out of hand.
34 posted on 11/01/2012 8:59:25 PM PDT by eggman (End the Obama occupation of the White House!)
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To: Calpublican

Well, I guess if the first three or four or nine stories don’t work...run another one up the flagpole and see if anyone salutes.

This is sad.


35 posted on 11/01/2012 10:10:02 PM PDT by berdie
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To: Calpublican

>> but also of a CIA misjudgment

ESAD/s, Ignatus. Your scapegoating is no more believable than the ruse that involved defecating on the 1st Amenment.


36 posted on 11/01/2012 10:56:38 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: Girlene

>> >> The defenders have focused their laser sights earlier on several Libyan attackers, as warnings not to fire

>> 2nd question .... warning???

Agreed


37 posted on 11/01/2012 11:06:30 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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The Obamunists using a bought columnist to carry their water. No surprise here.


38 posted on 11/01/2012 11:06:34 PM PDT by Godwin1
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To: kabar
The first idea is to go to a Benghazi hospital to recover Stevens, who they rightly suspect is already dead. But the hospital is surrounded by the al-Qaeda-linked Ansar al-Sharia militia that mounted the consulate attack.

This makes it sound like the kidnapping hypothesis may be right. Perhaps Ansar al-Sharia took him to the hospital after recovering him from the room as seen in the video. They were supposed to capture him alive, hence the celebration, they took him to the hospital and waited to see if he would survive in order to kidnap him.

39 posted on 11/01/2012 11:16:02 PM PDT by Dan Cooper
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To: Dan Cooper

No, no, no. Those were nice people who took him to the hospital. Hillary said so. The Libyans love us and loved Ambassador Stevens. It was that durn video . . .


40 posted on 11/01/2012 11:19:09 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: kabar
The WH should have been in charge

They were.

41 posted on 11/01/2012 11:36:55 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Calpublican

“We can all rest easy now that this has been thoroughly investigated”

WASHINGTON, Nov. 2 (UPI) — The CIA was the real commanding agency at the attacked U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, not the State Department, senior U.S. intelligence officials said.

In addition, two of the four men who died in the Sept. 11 attack — former Navy SEAL commandos Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty — were actually CIA contractors killed defending the mission, not State Department contract security officers, as originally publicly identified, the officials told several news organizations on condition of anonymity.

The new information does not address the Obama administration’s various depictions of whether the assault was a protest that turned violent or a planned terrorist attack. But the officials reiterated early intelligence was patchy and often contradictory. They said talking points for members of Congress and senior administration officials did not at first discuss possible links between the attackers and al-Qaida because the information was classified.

“It wasn’t until after the points were used in public that people reconciled contradictory information and assessed there probably wasn’t a protest around the time of the attack,” a senior U.S. intelligence official said in a statement.

Congressional investigators say it appears the CIA and State Department weren’t on the same page about their respective security roles at the consulate, which the Journal said raised questions about whether the Benghazi security arrangement was flawed.

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2012/11/02/US-officials-CIA-ran-Benghazi-consulate/UPI-44771351839600


42 posted on 11/02/2012 4:22:19 AM PDT by Marguerite (a)
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To: Calpublican
Your screen name is what I wanted to do when I read this story.

LOL!

I've had that screen name since day one. Every now and then I think the time to change it has come. But then some stupid person (usually a politician, usually a mentally diseased liberal) does something stupid and I change my mind.

43 posted on 11/02/2012 6:06:59 AM PDT by upchuck (Our margin of victory this November 6th MUST BE greater than their margin of fraud.)
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To: fortheDeclaration

On paper but not in fact. They punted to the CIA if you believe the timeline. Malicious neglect.


44 posted on 11/02/2012 6:16:38 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

The WH is ultimately responsible.


45 posted on 11/02/2012 6:17:25 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Dan Cooper

You don’t pour diesel fuel into the office/residence and set fire to it if the objective is to capture him.


46 posted on 11/02/2012 6:18:30 AM PDT by kabar
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To: fortheDeclaration

Obama and Hillary have already claimed responsibility. They just don’t want the consequences that come with it.


47 posted on 11/02/2012 6:20:12 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Girlene
●5:15 a.m.: A new Libyan assault begins, this time with mortars. Two rounds miss and the next three hit the roof. The rooftop defenders never “laser the mortars,” as has been reported. They don’t know the weapons are in place until the indirect fire begins, nor are the mortars observed by the drone overhead. The defenders have focused their laser sights earlier on several Libyan attackers, as warnings not to fire.

Scratching my head. I had to read this several times. So they did not laser the mortars, instead the attackers firing weapons? Am I reading this right? We are supposed to believe the laser was used only in hopes of making the attackers go away and not because they wanted the attacker obliterated?

48 posted on 11/02/2012 6:33:28 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights; Gene Eric

Thanks for your thoughts.


49 posted on 11/02/2012 10:57:14 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: kabar
You don’t pour diesel fuel into the office/residence and set fire to it if the objective is to capture him.

I think they were trying to smoke him out. I didn't say they were smart though.

50 posted on 11/02/2012 12:33:32 PM PDT by Dan Cooper
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