Skip to comments.In Powerless Manhattan, Rising Safety Worries (looters masquerading as FEMA, ConEd people)
Posted on 11/01/2012 5:38:04 PM PDT by markomalley
Within the blackout zone of Lower Manhattan, residents who remained in the depopulated neighborhoods spoke Thursday of rising concerns over security.
On the Lower East Side, would-be robbers posing as utility-repair workers had security officials in apartment buildings on high alert. While post-storm looting has occurred in other parts of New York City, there havent so far been major reports of crime in the darkened neighborhoods south of 34th Street.
Henry Choi said three doormen instead of one stood at the entrance to his apartment building near Delancey and Forsyth, checking IDs of people going in and out. They told him the extra security is as a result of incidents in nearby buildings where people dressed as Consolidated Edison Inc. employees had managed to get into homes by claiming they were there to help restore power.
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Hmmm... maybe Romney’s plan to abolish FEMA isn’t quite so lame after all. ;-)
And yet, the law abiding are forbidden by law to protect themselves with firearms. When seconds count, the police are...well...who knows where they are.
Regarding the article’s headline, it just occurred to me: you don’t often see the adjective “powerless” applied to the noun “manhattan”.
“Manhattan” has exercised so much power and influence over so many facets of our lives for such a long time.
The LORD works in mysterious ways, and all of creation is His.
Hmmm, wonder if this would be a good time for those folks to vote on some Right To Carry and CHL legislation? I’m betting there’s plenty of those folks who are wishing they were packing heat. But, naw, they’ll never change.....
Don’t worry THE GOVERNEMNT will be there to help... sometime
Be sure to vote for MORE GOVERNMENT next week !
I live in Queens; I went over to Manhattan yesterday. It’s not just dark south of the 34th Street. It’s dark south of 40th St., in the area east of 6th Ave. (I’ve heard, but did not see for myself, that it’s also dark on the west side of 6th Ave. as well, south of 31st Street. This is significant because the 34th - 40th Street area includes a great many additional residential apartment buildings & businesses.
We’re talking about basic physical needs and sanitary conditions of high-tax paying New Yorkers, and Nanny Bloomberg is worrying about 32 oz. sodas and taking the time today to endorse Obama on the ground of climate change.
As I said on another thread a couple days ago, wherein some people got rather pissy:
“For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind...”
Anyone who has seen my postings knows I’m a rare one to quote scripture verses, but in this case the situation is so apt and the verse (and context) so fitting, it fits like a glove.
If we want to dispense with the Biblical references, then here’s a modern summary of the situation in NYC and NJ today:
“Karma is a bitch.”
We are the United States of America: and we can’t keep the power on in a storm in New York or DC?
........what do you want me to say?
And we put these incompetent morons in charge?
Your attitude is best described as: Dumb.
The vast majority of Americans - from red or blue states - are apolitical. And even in the bluest areas, e.g., New York City, there’s areas such as Staten Island, which often votes Republican. I’m a New Yorker, and I can tell you there’s an active Tea Party movement here, from the start in 2009. My ex-Congressman here in Queens, Anthony Weiner (of twitter infamy) was recently replaced by a Republican. But, in any case, to condemn to misery entire populations of Americans because of a relative handful of political activists you read about or see on TV is bird-brained.
Some of the buried power distribution and even more so, plumbing infrastructure is over 100 years old. Really not feasible to update it with the latest stuff every year. Above ground has its own problems and just can't do it in a city center.
Good luck FReeper. The military and construction groups have portable generators and temporary lights that could help start restoring normalcy. Field kitchens could start feeding the hungry. The military has the type of equipment that can get into hard hit areas. I wonder why it hasn’t been brought to bear?
Interesting. From 2500+ miles away I know very little about the different boroughs if that's what they're called. I had to look up the spelling of that "B" word. One thing I notice during the tv interviews of New Yorkers is the accents I remember from visiting during my youth seem to be largely gone. Of course, that should mean they don't think I have much of an accent either. LOL
>> If we want to dispense with the Biblical references
Nah, do the Scripture references. It’s cool. :-)
I didn’t condemn you and I didn’t wish it on you. I just happen to be the one of the bystanders that shrugs their shoulders in indifference at the plight of the people there... because their actions and past planning (or more likely, lack of same) has brought about this result.
Net:net for you: New Yorkers just had it coming. That’s what the verse I quoted from Hosea means. Hosea was a minor prophet who warned of the coming destruction of Israel in 722 BC - and was pretty much ignored. The historical parallels are interesting, but I’m not going to get off on a Biblical study issue here.
It’s a consistent theme in many religions (not just Judaism and/or Christianity): “What goes around comes around.... often times with interest due.” New Yorkers (and people from New Jersey as well) have been living rather large, often at the expense of others. The universe tends to work in manifold ways to level the playing field from time to time.
But all that won’t stop people in the area from picking the pockets of the US Taxpayer to make sure that they get made whole for their beachfront homes.
I’ve just be reading up on the fall of empires and nations in the past recently, because I believe that even if Romney wins this thing, we’re due for a hard, hard fall within my lifetime, and the way I see the financial markets ignoring the fact that the banking system hasn’t been cleaned up here (or in the EU, and who knows what is going on in China), we’re likely to see the turds hit the turbine blades within the next five years.
Part of my reading has been on the collapse of Israel in 722BC, which is instructive in that the Jews never put together a nation-state again until 1948 following the collapse of Israel in 722BC.
The quote I tossed out comes from the book of Hosea, a minor prophet in the Bible I guess, who forewarned of the coming collapse of the nation as a result of the lazy, dissipated, slothful and corrupt lifestyle of the people of Israel in his time. Reading what I can find of the period, there were a couple/three people preaching or predicting that a hard time was about to befall the Jews and Israel, but they were soundly ignored.
The parallels to the fall of other nations and cultures are similar, and many of the same threads can be seen today in the bi-coastal culture of the US: lazy, arrogant, pursuing trivial pleasures, conflating credentials with competence, constantly looking to profit off the labor of others, decadence in ways that can only be described as hedonistic (and then some)... this is where some of the comparisons start sounding a bit hectoring on lifestyles, but again the common threads are there.
In short, where you have a polity who starts thinking with their tingly bits (eg, the DNC, Sandra Fluke and her ilk of political females who think with their va-jay-jays - and there are interesting parallels in history) ... you’re seeing a population who isn’t paying attention to the really important things in human existence and who will soon pay for their frivolous pursuits.
I went through something similar during the Ice Storm of 2009, so I have a rough idea of the timeline for getting things going again. We lost power for eight days and I know folks who were using generators for upwards of three months. There were only a few gas stations that sold kerosine, so the lines were upwards of a mile long(and there are only 30,000 people living here) and you couldn't find a generator, gas can, or kerosine heater to save your life.
Food, bottled water, and fuel deliveries should be getting back to a fairly normal routine in the next couple of days. Utility crews and clean-up teams from around the country are either there already or heading that way, so electricity and running water will be back up for most of the area in the next week to ten days and roads should be repaired (or at least patched) by about the same time.
Thank you for your thoughtful post! Although I have come to appreciate that your posts are predictably thoughtful.
I’m not by nature a pessimist.
And yet, I can’t deny that you may be right on the money in your observations and conclusions.
Please consider this: no matter what has befallen GOD’s people over history — as you point out, usually a result of their own perversion and arrogance — there has always — ALWAYS — existed a remnant of believers who through the grace of GOD ride out the storm to carry on His divine will.
And as a direct and divinely planned result of the life, death, and resurrection of GOD’s son Jesus, all of us, Jew and Gentile, can now, if we choose, be “God’s people”, joint heirs to the everlasting kingdom of GOD.
Therefore,the pool from which the remnant can be drawn now encompasseses all humanity, in principle.
Despite my many faults and massive imperfection, I strive to be (if necessary) part of that remnant.
You do the same.
The LORD is in control.
Electrical problems are outside not inside buildings...at this point, any way.
Wonder where the 24/7 reporting is on the looting and crime spree? Where’s Wolf Blitzer and Brian Williams raking Mayor Bloomberg over the coals for the poor response and lawlessness in NYC? Wonder what it is like sitting in the dark, with the door boarded up, no gun, and the “wolf packs” banging on the door? Ah, the urban life!
And the “residential” bldg’s built in the last 60 years are tall and SUPER tall. 10,20,30,etc,stories WITHOUT elevator power
and dark stairwells