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About That 'Facility' ( Benghazi )
American Thinker ^ | November 1, 2012 | Bill Schanefelt

Posted on 11/01/2012 6:46:40 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

As was noted on AT recently, a retired State Department Foreign Service Officer said: "Our Benghazi facility was a half-baked operation. It was not a consulate. It was a 'facility' with an ambiguous purpose, at least as far as the unclassified world is concerned."

If it was not a consulate, then it was not sovereign United States territory.  This fact has important legal consequences -- as was only just touched upon (at ~13:00, but pick up at ~10:00 for full context) by Newt Gingrich on Fox News in his appearance on Greta Van Susteren's Oct. 30 show (caution: auto-play).

One of these consequences may be that the United States had no "legal" authority under international law unilaterally to violate sovereign Libyan airspace by sending in a military force or by engaging attackers with U.S. aircraft, irrespective of the fact that U.S. citizens, including an ambassador, were the ones being attacked.

The purpose of this "facility" and its associated "safe-house" is increasingly becoming less ambiguous, as J.D. Longstreet points out:

That CIA "safe-house" has troubled me from the very beginning. ... What was the CIA doing there? There was no embassy in Benghazi. In fact, the building attacked was not even a consulate. If anything, it was a "mission" ... this was NOT an embassy.

It no longer reasonably can be denied that what was going on in Benghazi was "Fast and Furious in the Maghreb" being run by Ambassador Stevens, et al. at the direction of "fill in the blank."

He continues:

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 20120911; benghazi; libya; shadowwars; threatmatrix
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1 posted on 11/01/2012 6:46:40 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Travis McGee; Marine_Uncle; TigersEye; onyx; RummyChick; Grampa Dave

comments?


2 posted on 11/01/2012 6:49:53 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Excellent post.

It is high time the media started with the facts. The fact is that this was a CIA operation from start to finish.

3 posted on 11/01/2012 6:54:20 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, we'll just grow algae.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

So did Somalia give approval for Team 6 to extract two hostages at the beginning of the year? Obama was telling Panetta good job for that extraction while on camera during the State of the Union.


4 posted on 11/01/2012 6:55:22 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I can’t get over the impression that someone was intended to die at that facility. A Gay Hero who would be useful for The Disaster’s campaign.


5 posted on 11/01/2012 6:56:07 PM PDT by arrogantsob (The Disaster MUST Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
If it was not a consulate, then it was not sovereign United States territory. This fact has important legal consequences -- as was only just touched upon (at ~13:00, but pick up at ~10:00 for full context) by Newt Gingrich on Fox News in his appearance on Greta Van Susteren's Oct. 30 show

An American CIC would have gone in and worried about feelings later.

6 posted on 11/01/2012 6:56:42 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: All
Related article from AT ...FR Thread:

Benghazi Reveals Obama-Islamist Alliance ^

7 posted on 11/01/2012 6:57:22 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
If the administration is willing to admit that and disavow the facilities as part of the State Dept.'s diplomatic mission they could make that argument. They would have to explain why all the requests for improved security were going to the State Dept.

But how would they make that case for the personnel? I presume that ambassador Stevens and all the rest were there with the knowledge and permission of the provisional gov of Libya. Wouldn't we have the 'right under international law' to defend officials of the U.S. gov who were present in the country with Libyan approval?

8 posted on 11/01/2012 6:58:57 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Then the Brits, Italians, French, USA, Qatar, other’s equally violated Libyan air space during the NATO operations last year. The Russians and Chinese did not give the thumbs up, within the five permanent members of the Security Council.


9 posted on 11/01/2012 6:59:00 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned.)
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To: RummyChick

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We were trained to jump from commercial airliners because they are ubiquitous and nonattributable. It is one thing to prohibit American military aircraft from flying over your country. It is quite another to close down your airspace to all commercial traffic. Libya, Syria, Cuba, and a host of other thug nations allow commercial flights to fly through their airspace. This is all the opening a SEAL Team needs. Unknown and unseen, a SEAL element can parachute into any place on earth.One might insert: that is, provided one survives the jump. The trick is to exit in correct body position and deploy your parachute after the appropriate delay. There are two principal types of SEAL parachute operations: HALO, or high altitude, low opening; and HAHO, high altitude, high opening.


10 posted on 11/01/2012 6:59:14 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

I am drawing a blank here....the Blackhawk down incident?


11 posted on 11/01/2012 7:00:21 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Pirates kidnapped civilians. They were held hostage about three months. Team Seal extracted suddenly when mysterious information was revealed that a medical condition was about to end her life. Oh, just as Obama was going to do the State of the Union.


12 posted on 11/01/2012 7:03:31 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

If a member of your family was being murdered in the house next door would go to a judge for a warrant to enter the house?


13 posted on 11/01/2012 7:05:08 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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There was a UN resolution ....with NATO as the approved force....as I recall.

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REMEMBER OBAMA and his crowd are Globalists at heart and will always strive to work under some legalistic cover.....

The most useful is R2P ---Acronym as Responsibility to Protect---

There is a large PSF document on that !!!

Syria with all of the Civilian casualities would likely be construed to be under that....

Now would Gun Running to the Rebels be covered....

I think there are some UN resolutions on Syria.....

14 posted on 11/01/2012 7:07:30 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: arrogantsob

Either that or his loss was deemed acceptable; after all, if he’s dead he can’t spill the beans.


15 posted on 11/01/2012 7:07:40 PM PDT by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (CHRISTOPHER WALKEN 2012: A cowbell in every pot!)
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To: RummyChick

Well....how timely!


16 posted on 11/01/2012 7:08:40 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: count-your-change

The current crowd in Washington would do just that.


17 posted on 11/01/2012 7:11:41 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Whoops. I'm slipping. Your obviously correct.
"In a 10-0 vote (with five members abstaining), the United Nations Security Council Thursday approved an attack on Libya, urging nations the world over to use “all necessary measures” to move against the Gadhafi regime."

Not retaining stuff as I once was able.
18 posted on 11/01/2012 7:13:50 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned.)
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To: arrogantsob

And the ambassador’s three black security officers.


19 posted on 11/01/2012 7:19:10 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Travis McGee; Nachum; penelopesire; maggief; MestaMachine; SE Mom; ...
Please link TMGee's interview today, because he was spot with this man's column, which has just been published.

Seems like Patreaus also has some questions to answer, given the wimpy statement presumably issued in his name, and published in the Weekly Standard.

This entire evil regime must be voted out on Tuesday.
20 posted on 11/01/2012 7:19:43 PM PDT by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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