Skip to comments.U.S. Offers New Details Of Deadly Libya Attack (NPR calls it a mob)
Posted on 11/01/2012 7:01:49 PM PDT by Drango
Once a mob began attacking the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, on the night of Sept. 11, officials in Washington, D.C., watched with alarm. Now, new details are emerging about their response to the deadly attack.
President Obama and his entire national security team monitored what was going on half a world away. Army Gen. Carter Ham, who was the regional commander for Africa, happened to be in Washington that day.
One source familiar with the events said there was a sense of urgency.
The consulate was burning, and Ambassador Chris Stevens, who was visiting the consulate with a small security team, was missing in the smoky chaos. For the next six hours or more, top officials in Washington watched and tried to send help as a second attack centered on the consulate's annex, a secret CIA base.
Officials say that U.S. forces from Europe and Fort Bragg in North Carolina were dispatched in an effort to help, but they arrived too late. Officials considered sending U.S. warplanes from Italy, but it was decided dropping bombs would lead to civilian casualties.
Officials dispute a report on Fox News that there was a delay, a "stand down" for CIA operatives and Libyan guards to help those under fire at the consulate.
Could The U.S. Military Come To Their Aid?
The officials had little time to respond. There were no U.S. troops anywhere near the consulate, either in Libya or even in neighboring countries. So dozens of special operations forces and CIA guards from Tripoli were sent by aircraft to Benghazi, 480 miles to the east. They could not get there in time to help defend the consulate.
Ham, back in Washington, requested a military counterterrorism force from Europe. But they arrived in Libya the day after the attack and deployed to Tunisia two days later. A larger special operations force was sent from Fort Bragg, complete with their own helicopters and trucks. They arrived in Sigonella, Italy, too late to be any help. No American forces were denied by Washington, officials say.
American attack aircraft? An AC-130 gunships would seem to make sense. That's the lumbering black cargo plane, a flying battleship with three types of heavy guns and high-resolution cameras. It's often used to support special operations forces in tight urban areas and can zoom in on enemy forces. But there were no Spectre gunships in the area, officials learned.
Attack helicopters? None around. There were two Navy ships in the Mediterranean, the USS Laboon and the USS McFaul, but only the Laboon is equipped with a Seahawk helicopter, the Navy's version of the BlackHawk.
They were American warplanes based in Aviano, Italy, just across the Mediterranean. But they could not arrive in time to help with the consulate fight. When the attack began, consulate officials made an urgent call to the CIA guards at the nearby annex: We're under attack.
Was The Rescue Delayed?
The CIA official there organized his force and the Libyan guards at the annex. Some tried to find heavy machine guns to bring along to the consulate, about a mile away. One of the CIA operatives waiting to leave grew increasingly angry, convinced they were being told to "stand down" on two occasions, according a report on Fox News.
CIA officials in Washington strongly deny there was any order not to mount a rescue mission. And the source tells NPR there was never an order to stay put. It was all about getting ready, not delaying. Within 24 minutes, the American and Libyan team moved out toward the consulate.
The convoy drove along an indirect route to avoid hostile militias, and the Americans and Libyans hustled along on foot for the last half mile, arriving an hour after the call for help.
The source said that surveillance cameras establish what time they left the annex and what time they showed up at the consulate. When they arrived, Ambassador Stevens was missing. He was carried to a hospital by looters, and later died there of asphyxiation from the smoke he inhaled while in the consulate's safe room.
The American and Libyan team loaded up the wounded and the survivors and made their way back to the annex. They got lost in the maze of streets, and some militia members shot at their tires as they made it back to the annex. In Washington, there was relief. At the White House and the Pentagon, top officials believed the worst was over after the successful rescue mission.
The Second Attack
For several hours, there was a lull in the fighting. Then a second attack began, at the well-fortified annex. In Washington, the issue of attack aircraft came up among top officials.
The F-16 Fighting Falcons could come to the rescue from their base in Aviano, some officials thought. But there were no clear targets, it was decided. An unarmed Predator drone flew over the area, just before the consulate attack ended. But it offered only a "soda straw" view hundreds of feet below near the annex. There were no armed drones in the area.
Officials watched the grainy footage from the drone. It was hard to determine among the hundreds of people who was with a militia supporting the U.S., and who was taking part in that second attack, and who was a spectator people, as the source said, "watching a war movie in front of them." Sporadic gunfire added to the confusion about separating friend from foe.
Officials eventually decided they can't drop large bombs in a residential neighborhood.
A decision was made: No close air support, not even as a show of force that could possibly disperse the fighters. The Americans, and their Libyan allies fighting with them on the ground, were on their own.
At some point, the Quick Reaction Force arrived from Tripoli to help. Rocket-propelled grenades and mortars slammed into the annex. One mortar curled into the base and killed two Americans. The annex was never breached, and the attackers were fought off. The force from Tripoli helped move the survivors to the airport.
There was frustration in Washington that no more American firepower could be brought to help, according to the source. No more troops. No aircraft at all. If the Quick Reaction Force from Tripoli had not been able to fight off the attackers and evacuate the annex, there would have been even more casualties and perhaps more pressure to send in some type of additional American force.
In the end, four Americans were killed: Ambassador Stevens, Sean Smith, a U.S. Foreign Service officer, as well as two embassy security personnel, Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods. Another 30 Americans and Libyans were wounded.
Obama and some of the same senior officials who huddled in Washington and tried to send them help assembled at Andrews Air Force Base three nights later to meet the four caskets
Kiss my ass NPR.
There’s a reason why the big yellow chicken and Tickle My Elmo took up residency at NPR.
OBAMA’S TEAM MEDIA TO THE RESCUE. With the blackout in play til now, folks will suck this up.
We don’t need another ‘official’ statement...we need an OFFICIAL INVESTIGATION!
Well, I’ll be polite. My first Company Commander told me, “Excuses are like behinds.....everyone has one and they all stink.” He didn’t use the word “behinds”, though.
Yah right, 6 CIA plus a bunch of Libyan rent a cops on a charter to save all of our secrets in the annex. Please would someone resign and tell the truth.
Now we have covered the ass of our great commander and chief please explain how this ended up being a reaction to a video. My head is spinning .
Another reason to vote for Romney....defund NPR.
The taxpayer shouldn’t have to pay for this useless garbage!!
NPR takes a swipe at Ty Woods:
“..he CIA official there organized his force and the Libyan guards at the annex. Some tried to find heavy machine guns to bring along to the consulate, about a mile away. One of the CIA operatives waiting to leave grew increasingly angry, convinced they were being told to “stand down” on two occasions, according a report on Fox News...”
Ty Woods angry and paranoid.
Again, stealing from an old saying,
“You say we didn’t have enough security and didn’t send any real rescue force? Who you gonna believe......our words or four dead Americans?”
Are you sure this isn’t from “The Onion?”
More lies, my head is spinning
Alrighty then...I feel better, case closed.
Did Big Bird write this report?
Some interesting comments after the article. A few of the usual NPR maggots, but also some well-informed conservative responses, which a few people may read.
Not that you can change the mind of a maggot.
Something big coming tomorrow. That s why Obama’ s Pravda trolls are flooding the presses before the levee breaks....lol! They are all going down.
I agree, this is the behavior of a cornered animal that knows it’s about to be caught .
Who ordered the drone?
Why did they order the drone?
Why did they prohibit the drone from aiding our citizens?
We have a domestic enemy situation in the WH!
“Once a mob began attacking.....”
I stopped right there.
NPR is still calling it a consulate.
Wasn’t an embassy either.
OH and NPR left out that the movie maker was arrested...
This whole article is a joke. A very weak attempt to cover Obama’s sorry a$$. In all of the articles, stories, and/or reports that I have read or watched, there has not been any mention of Obama’s security team (NSC) being convened to monitor the situation. This should be easy to confirm...just check the calendars for all NSC members. If this had happened, it would have been reported on September 12, and there would be pictures.
The article uses vague terms such as: “One source familiar with the events said there was a sense of urgency.” Was the source in the WH situation room? I am familiar with the events, and I say that there wasn’t a sense of urgency.
FTA: “Officials say that U.S. forces from Europe and Fort Bragg in North Carolina were dispatched in an effort to help”. Which “Officials”? Fort Bragg? How dumb is that?
FTA: “Officials considered sending U.S. warplanes from Italy, but it was decided dropping bombs would lead to civilian casualties.” Which “Officials”? Who decided that dropping bombs would lead to civilian casualties?
The source for the article was a Democrat party hack with no knowledge of the military. The entire article is a joke.
The old media, which includes NPR, believe that they answer to a higher calling. Their higher calling is to coverup and protect the Democrat party because the Democrat party has the higher calling of making a utopia in the United States. The fact that the Democrats haven’t achieved a utopia is explained away by blaming their failures on the Republicans. It’s a brilliant scam. The Democrats really want to give us utopia but they can never quite achieve it because of those rotten Republicans. The leadership of the Democrat party, for the last 60 or 70 years, seems to be able to achieve utopia for themselves. The majority of Democrat voters fail to notice that their leaders achieve utopia, but that doesn’t seem to pass along to the majority of Democrats. This is politely known as REALITY DISCOMFITURE, or, more commonly, being stupid. If your leaders are all wealthy, but they keep telling you that they just can’t quite get that wealth to you, well, then, you are stupid for supporting them.
ROBERTS: Public NOT buying WH explanation of Lybia attack!
“Ham, back in Washington, requested a military counterterrorism force from Europe. But they arrived in Libya the day after the attack and deployed to Tunisia two days later.”
~ Didn’t Ham say that his help was NOT requested?
NPR you lying propaganda-mongering b@$!@rds!!!
What a shameless disgrace!!!
Partisan Media Shills ping. Thanks Drango.
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A map of the Sahel region showing where Al Qaeda operates (AFP/Graphic)
“Officials watched the grainy footage from the drone.”
“Grainy” footage from the drone? Drones might not be perfect, but their images are far from grainy.
MSM playing along with muddying the water, at the expense of patriots.
There was a recent report discussing the so-called WH ‘strategy.’
That conflicts with the Jake Tapper report today that said no drone footage was viewed live by the WH and others. As to this article: this is literally a simple list of "conservative claims" and the "facts" used to refute are straight-out Obama and Co. talking points. I do agree that it is curious that NPR would be putting out such a lengthy story even as biased as it is. I guess we will know sooner than later since this is simply moving it to the front burner again.
He was ?
We knew they would do this....it isn’t going to help. They have told so many lies they can’t even keep up with them anymore.
” - - - A decision was made: No close air support, not even as a show of force that could possibly disperse the fighters. The Americans, and their Libyan allies fighting with them on the ground, were on their own. - - - “
If you get in Military trouble, Commander-in-Chief OBAMA WILL LEAVE YOU BEHIND.
Somebody better stand up and soon. This horrible man and his party needs to be exposed. Reading the comments at the WP would turn your stomach. Progs!
We need to humiliate and shut these traitor tools down.
Another NPR Coverup.
They don’t know how to report truth.
“~ Didnt Ham say that his help was NOT requested?”
AFRICOM Leader General Carter Ham Was Never Ordered to Save US Men in Benghazi
Per Rep. Jason Chaffetz R-UT asking General Ham directly:
Did we have assets in the area? The answer is “yes”.
Did we have proximity? The answer is “yes”.
Why we didn’t send in some of those assets? The general said he was not requested to do so.
the drone could have easily eliminated
the Taliban mortar team
“Why we didnt send in some of those assets? The general said he was not requested to do so.”
NPR must have missed that interview!
I’m curious about Ham being in DC that very day...why was he there? Was he with the President when all was going down?
It’s National Public Radio.
Of course they’re going to side with the State, especially when the party in power wants to grow the State and its propaganda networks.
Romney, not so much. But I doubt that he’ll really pull the plug.
that amount of excuses must be some kind of world record. Gee seems the stars just weren’t aligned in Stevens and company’s favor that night.
The NPR report amounts to pleading incompetence as an excuse. Any competent authority would know that Ambassador Stevens and other personnel would require sufficient military support to stand off a militia attack within minutes, much less hours or days. To not have an overwatch force ready and waiting while Ambassador Stevens was in Benghazi amounts to nothing less than dereliction of duty, criminal or otherwise.
“NPR must have missed that interview!”
They were busy in a circle holding hands and watching Big Bird.
Will have to dig some more to see where Gen. Ham actually was on 9/11, but did notice these:
Two U.S. officials tell Eli Lake that the State Department never requested military backup the night of the attack.
Nov 1, 2012 4:19 PM EDT
“Representative Jason Chaffetz, the Republican chairman of a House oversight subcommittee investigating the Benghazi attacks, told The Daily Beast that General Carter Ham, the outgoing U.S. commander of Africa Command, told me directly that he had no directive to engage in the fight in Benghazi. Spokesmen from Africa Command declined to comment for this story.”
“On Monday, Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Martin Dempsey issued a statement saying that Army Gen. Carter Ham - leader of U.S. Africa Command — is leaving as part of “routine succession planning.” A civilian Pentagon spokesman said that Ham is retiring.”
Yes a mob of disgruntled movie critics.
OK, we can now say 0 tried, people died.
Anybody buying it?
They’re trying to run cover for obama. We need an investigation with everyone under oath!
Someone needs to clue NPR in. We’ve moved well beyond the mob and the video.
“One of the CIA operatives waiting to leave grew increasingly angry, convinced they were being told to “stand down” on two occasions, according a report on Fox News.”
Convinced? Is NPR challenging the fact that they were told to stand down?
What happened to the rescued people? Who are they? Were they wounded? Why are we not hearing from them? They were RESCUED? Some gratitude perhaps?
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