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Noonan: How Far Obama Has Fallen
WSJ ^ | 11/2/2012 | Noonan

Posted on 11/02/2012 4:14:35 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle

And then it all changed. At a certain point he lost the room.

Books will be written about what happened, but early on the president made two terrible legislative decisions. The stimulus bill was a political disaster, and it wasn't the cost, it was the content. We were in crisis, losing jobs. People would have accepted high spending if it looked promising. But the stimulus was the same old same old, pure pork aimed at reliable constituencies. It would course through the economy with little effect. And it would not receive a single Republican vote in the House (three in the Senate), which was bad for Washington, bad for our politics. It was a catastrophic victory. It did say there was a new boss in town. But it also said the new boss was out of his league.

Then health care, a mistake beginning to end. The president's 14-month-long preoccupation with ObamaCare signaled that he did not share the urgency of people's most immediate concerns—jobs, the economy, all the coming fiscal cliffs. The famous 2,000-page bill added to their misery by adding to their fear.

Voters would have had to trust the president a lot to believe his program wouldn't raise their premiums, wouldn't limit their autonomy, wouldn't make a shaky system worse.

But they didn't trust him that much, because they'd just met him. They didn't really know him.

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Although she seems to get it partially, there is still a critical point she apparently misses. She writes "It is a mystery why the president didn't second-guess himself more, doubt himself. Instead he kept going forward as if it were working." It's not a mystery Peggy. He was, and is, a rigid leftist ideologue who likely believes deeply that Marx had the right ideas. His policies aren't working because his philosophy/ideology is horribly flawed. It's not a mystery.
1 posted on 11/02/2012 4:14:40 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: pieceofthepuzzle
Buyer's remorse, Peggy?

 


2 posted on 11/02/2012 4:17:33 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

Obama is a hard-core Marxist.

He really believes government makes this country great.

Ronald Reagan famously said America is a country that happens to have a government.

O’s view is the federal government is America.

And that is why he is headed for defeat on Tuesday!


3 posted on 11/02/2012 4:18:02 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: markomalley

Too little, too late.


4 posted on 11/02/2012 4:19:33 AM PDT by FES0844
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

I’m smarter than you, Noonan. I didn’t vote for him.


5 posted on 11/02/2012 4:19:37 AM PDT by lowbridge (Joe Biden: "Look, the Taliban per se is not our enemy.")
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

History will not treat Obama very kindly. Even Bush 43 will be treated much more kindly.


6 posted on 11/02/2012 4:21:21 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: goldstategop

Translation: Be ready to say we have a 45th President on Tuesday night.


7 posted on 11/02/2012 4:22:49 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

Look how far the MSM has fallen.


8 posted on 11/02/2012 4:23:00 AM PDT by ILS21R (We stand at the precipice, looking into the abyss.)
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To: FES0844

I love how all the fake conservatives are now having buyer’s remorse.

We could have told them that four years ago but they learn it the hard way.

Every once in a generation America needs to elect a socialist to learn he can’t deliver.

I didn’t vote for him four years ago so I have no regrets!


10 posted on 11/02/2012 4:24:06 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle
"Peggy, you're nothing to me now. You're not a sister, you're not a friend. I don't want to know you or what you do. I don't want to see you on television, or read what you write. I don't want you near any conservative conferences. When you see my friends, I want to know a day in advance, so I won't be there. You understand?"

With apologies to Michael Corleone.

11 posted on 11/02/2012 4:24:30 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

Hey Noonan, Obama was not that high and mighty before he got elected. It was all a phony image.


12 posted on 11/02/2012 4:24:41 AM PDT by bmwcyle (45% to 47% of American voters are stupid)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle
Noonen doesn't understand philosophy and principal, that is why she voted for Obama.
13 posted on 11/02/2012 4:25:32 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: bmwcyle

Peggy Noonan, David Brooks and every one bought into the media-manufactured myth of Obama.

It was only a myth.


14 posted on 11/02/2012 4:26:40 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

Obama had little to do with passing those abominations. Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi basically did all the heavy lifting. All Obama did was take the occasional break from golfing and vacationing, to make a teleprompter speech and do whatever else Valerie Jarrett said.


15 posted on 11/02/2012 4:26:47 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Pray for Joe Biden- Proverbs 29:9)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

Peggy Noonan is a pompous, inside-the-beltway airhead. She can craft a nice phrase or two, but she can’t think. When she worked for a guy that had a brain, she was useful. On her own, the world is a mystery to her.


16 posted on 11/02/2012 4:32:21 AM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

This lame attempt by Noonan to excuse her vote for Obama in ‘08 won’t wash. There were millions of intelligent voters who saw through this film-flame man. She didn’t. Why should we pay any attention to a writer with such poor judgment?


17 posted on 11/02/2012 4:32:26 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: goldstategop

Same here but the damage he’s done makes me weep for America.


18 posted on 11/02/2012 4:33:25 AM PDT by FES0844
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To: txrefugee
This lame attempt by Noonan to excuse her vote for Obama in ‘08 won’t wash. There were millions of intelligent voters who saw through this film-flame man. She didn’t. Why should we pay any attention to a writer with such poor judgment?

I feel the same way. I don't think she can redeem herself in my eyes.

19 posted on 11/02/2012 4:34:28 AM PDT by old and tired
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

Voting for Obama in ‘08 was like buying a really really expensive new car without ever starting the engine or looking under the hood, because it came in your favorite color and the TV ads said it would make you look totally cool.


20 posted on 11/02/2012 4:35:48 AM PDT by Casie
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To: txrefugee

Well at the time millions were intoxicated by Obama.

I’m happy we elected him - if we hadn’t, the country wouldn’t have gotten to see what an incredible shrinking President he is.

And he keeps getting smaller by the day!

That’s doesn’t say much for Noonan’s judgment but thankfully, America is coming to its senses. Our long national nightmare will soon be over!


21 posted on 11/02/2012 4:35:58 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle
"If the people cannot trust their government to do the job for which it exists - to protect them and to promote their common welfare - all else is lost."...Barack Benghazi Obama
22 posted on 11/02/2012 4:39:19 AM PDT by tbpiper
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To: Casie

People voted for him because he was cool and he was the baddest sweet kid on the block!

That thrill is now gone.


23 posted on 11/02/2012 4:39:19 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle
"and it wasn't the cost, it was the content."

With all do respect Peggie, Bite Me..

Really? The cost didn't matter?

Just like your comment off Mic on Sarah Palin, That is ********....

24 posted on 11/02/2012 4:40:13 AM PDT by taildragger (( Fubarward Obama 2012, think about it :-) ))
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

Agree. Obama is no mystery and he showed his Marxist credentials during the 2008 campaign to anyone who bothered to pay attention. What’s missing is how Obama came to his Marxist idealogy. That mystery can be solved once his college and personal records are uncovered.


25 posted on 11/02/2012 4:40:52 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle
No sweetie... bless your heart... it is your love and high expectations that you created in that infected synaptical tangle of a brain you have that has fallen so far... obama was always pond scum peggy... my apologies to all pond scum.

LLS

26 posted on 11/02/2012 4:42:10 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (OUR GOVERNMENT AND PRESS ARE NO LONGER TRUSTWORTHY OR DESERVING OF RESPECT!)
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To: goldstategop

She’s a marvelous wordsmith and can turn a phrase with the best of them...............

BUT!

..........She’s ALSO a vapid airhead with not a single thought of her own. So, she’s GREAT as long as she mirrors the work of somebody competant.
Otherwise, you get this....................


27 posted on 11/02/2012 4:44:30 AM PDT by Flintlock (-THE TRUTH--It's the NEW hate speech.)
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To: ILS21R
Look how far the MSM has fallen.

The MSM and Obama have essentially fallen together...

28 posted on 11/02/2012 4:49:10 AM PDT by meyer (Proud member of the 53%.)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

Second guess himself? He wasn’t calling the shots.

He is an actor / pretender / boy-king easily manipulated to those who have the key.


29 posted on 11/02/2012 4:52:06 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

Peggy points out that Obama was screwing up from Day 1. That really does say something about how stupid and vapid she is for supporting him.


30 posted on 11/02/2012 5:04:32 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: markomalley

If Sandy had happened a week or two earlier, giving the victims and their sympathizers more time to get angry at the government’s ineffective relief efforts, Obama would lose in a landslide. The storm’s timing was fortunate for him. he got to look presidential, while the bureaucratic screw ups won’t be made public until after the election.


31 posted on 11/02/2012 5:04:43 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: markomalley

I like the two “Obama” O’s and a P and S after....”OOPS”


32 posted on 11/02/2012 5:06:01 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

I never know whether to laugh or shake my head when I read articles like this. Noonan is correct in that Obama got it wrong with the stimulus and Obamacare (and everything else, but I digress). What I don’t get is how anyone could be surprised by it. Obama’s governance has been pretty much exactly what I expected it to be, I’m sorry to say.


33 posted on 11/02/2012 5:06:46 AM PDT by DemforBush (100% Ex-Democrat.)
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To: Biggirl

Obama will be the biggest failure because he started with so much hope.


34 posted on 11/02/2012 5:07:49 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: Casie

Wasn’t a car at all. It’s a gas chamber!


35 posted on 11/02/2012 5:07:51 AM PDT by justrepublican (Screaming like a "Vexatious requester" at a Wellstone memorial...........)
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eff her and her elitist pig friends. I hope these racists enjoy the bed they set. Yes, she’s a racist for voting for the black guy just because it was supposed to say something about her.


36 posted on 11/02/2012 5:09:05 AM PDT by newnhdad (Where will you be during the Election Riots of 2012/2013?)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

37 posted on 11/02/2012 5:13:33 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm not voting for Obama, so therefore I must be helping Romney!)
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To: bmwcyle
Hey Noonan, Obama was not that high and mighty before he got elected. It was all a phony image.

All someone with half a brain had to know about Barack Hussein Obama was this:

A narcissist of the first order that was purely interested in promoting himself above all else.

Styrofoam columns, Victory party in the park, Stimulus, ObamaCare, Bin Laden - it's all about him. Nothing but him. Him and only him.

Even in meetings, no matter how large or small, he has to have his name on a placard with the "President of the United States" title under his name.

And just yesterday.....

He shows up in an Air Force One flight jacket with "Barack Obama Commander-in-Chief" nametag.

At least George W. Bush, if need be, could take the controls of AF-1. The only thing Obama is qualified to operate on the plane is the toilet.

38 posted on 11/02/2012 5:17:03 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys=Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best for you.)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

Peggy doesn’t realize she lost all credibility 4 years ago.


39 posted on 11/02/2012 5:19:43 AM PDT by wny
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To: N. Theknow

Hang in there, the adults will soon be back come Tuesday night.


40 posted on 11/02/2012 5:20:00 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle
Noonan: How Far Obama Has Fallen

Hey Pegs... take a look in the mirror.

41 posted on 11/02/2012 5:21:16 AM PDT by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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To: N. Theknow

“....At least George W. Bush, if need be, could take the controls of AF-1. The only thing Obama is qualified to operate on the plane is the toilet.”
***********************************************************************************
Nahh....he can’t actually operate the toilet. The extent of his expertise is filling the toilet.


42 posted on 11/02/2012 5:21:50 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

I am here in the northeast (Hudson Valley to be precise) and I have a sense of déjà vu.
1) Economy is ruins
2) America being pushed around in the middle east
3) Democratic president
4) Gas lines
The only good I see is election day is only five days away!


43 posted on 11/02/2012 5:22:41 AM PDT by shoff (Vote Democratic it beats thinking!)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle
Are we supposed to be thrilled and impressed about Peggy Noonan finally getting it?

Sorry Peggy, but idiots like you helped this idiot the past 3+ years. Just go away!

44 posted on 11/02/2012 5:23:47 AM PDT by Artcore
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To: Daveinyork
abc was forced to show and report on the disaster building today. I have been vindicated 100%. People are food-less, power-less and have no water... sawyer was in the home of an elderly black woman... living on the 17th floor with no electricity, out of water and no food. She was screaming as to why no government help had arrived. They showed mile long gas lines and reported fist fights and gun fights at gas stations... tempers are out of control and this is destroying obama’s image of two days ago. They have shown huge generators sitting idle in Central Park for the marathon... they are just backup but could suppl power to thousands each.

abc had to report that this election now hinges on today;s jobs report... yeah right... well there will be many pro obama voters that will stay home or vote for Romney because now the messiah;s lies are affecting them... because he finally lied to his own people and they are now suffering greatly because of his inabilities and lies.

LLS

45 posted on 11/02/2012 5:28:41 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (OUR GOVERNMENT AND PRESS ARE NO LONGER TRUSTWORTHY OR DESERVING OF RESPECT!)
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To: N. Theknow

Noonan was fooled like so many people.


46 posted on 11/02/2012 5:30:51 AM PDT by bmwcyle (45% to 47% of American voters are stupid)
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To: LibLieSlayer
well there will be many pro obama voters that will stay home or vote for Romney because now the messiah;s lies are affecting them... because he finally lied to his own people and they are now suffering greatly because of his inabilities and lies.

Obama did look "presidential" though. At least the MSM is happy.

47 posted on 11/02/2012 5:33:21 AM PDT by kevao (Hey, Obama: The 1930s called, they want their economic policy back.)
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To: N. Theknow

Noonan was fooled like so many people.


48 posted on 11/02/2012 5:35:12 AM PDT by bmwcyle (45% to 47% of American voters are stupid)
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To: bmwcyle

“Noonan was fooled like so many people.”

The Farce can have a strong influence on the weak-minded.


49 posted on 11/02/2012 5:36:15 AM PDT by No Truce With Kings (Ten years on FreeRepublic and counting.)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

The only thing that exceeds a leftist’s capacity for being wrong is their capacity for ignoring the idea that they possibly COULD BE wrong.


50 posted on 11/02/2012 5:37:20 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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