Skip to comments.45 People Show Up For Attempted ‘Catholics For Obama’ Event In Colorado
Posted on 11/03/2012 5:18:03 PM PDT by maddog55
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since neither one of those guys are running for president, who cares....they are just small pieces of skelton by now...unable to vote...
By all means, let’s ignore history and embrace candidates who will happily vow to protect and defend the constitution and then spend their political careers subverting it.
By that logic, any compromise with any civil authority would be "a victory for evil" since any civil authority is a greater or lesser evil. Until the Lord returns, we'll have to make do with some degree of compromise.
...and dont forget that the Catholic Church persecuted Galileo for agreeing with Copernicus...the church couldnt handle the truth!
In Galileo's day, none of the scientific authorities believed him either, because he made his claims with no data. Beyond that, he was pompous about it; he had been instructed to not forward the theory without proof. The imprisonment happened after he launched a personal attack on the Pope, who had at a point before that had actually assisted Galileo.
Late in his life, Johannes Kepler used the data that Tycho Brahe had collected -- but even though Galileo had been "right" about heliocentrism, he was still a pompous ingrate. Not only had he insulted his former supporter, the pope, he rejected Kepler's theory because Galileo preferred circular orbits while Kepler hypothesized elliptical ones (based on real data!).
The "Catholic Church persecuted Galileo" meme is very tired, and giving it credit requires one to suspend disbelief.
Another dud for the dud.
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Galileo was no pompous ingrate...you must be thinking of Newton. Galileo, naive as he was, went out of his way not to offend. His only crime was standing up for his beliefs...the “truth” as it turned out. He was only affirming his agreement with a predecessor.
Galileo might have expected justice from Urban the 6th but it was not forthcoming. Urban relinquished his beliefs for the sake of the church. I’m not sure what indulgences sold for at that time, but I bet Urban purchased a few.
Read it yourself. Galileo had sympathies of Cardinal Barberini (later Urban VIII) and Cardinal Bellarmine. The relevant paragraph:
Earlier, Pope Urban VIII had personally asked Galileo to give arguments for and against heliocentrism in the book, and to be careful not to advocate heliocentrism. He made another request, that his own views on the matter be included in Galileo's book. Only the latter of those requests was fulfilled by Galileo. Whether unknowingly or deliberately, Simplicio, the defender of the Aristotelian Geocentric view in Dialogue Concerning the Two Chief World Systems, was often caught in his own errors and sometimes came across as a fool. Indeed, although Galileo states in the preface of his book that the character is named after a famous Aristotelian philosopher (Simplicius in Latin, Simplicio in Italian), the name "Simplicio" in Italian also has the connotation of "simpleton". This portrayal of Simplicio made Dialogue Concerning the Two Chief World Systems appear as an advocacy book: an attack on Aristotelian geocentrism and defence of the Copernican theory. Unfortunately for his relationship with the Pope, Galileo put the words of Urban VIII into the mouth of Simplicio. Most historians agree Galileo did not act out of malice and felt blindsided by the reaction to his book. However, the Pope did not take the suspected public ridicule lightly, nor the Copernican advocacy. Galileo had alienated one of his biggest and most powerful supporters, the Pope, and was called to Rome to defend his writings. (emphases mine)
To sum up the whole incident:
Actually, in some ways, his lack of docility is similar to the lack of docility that is shown by some of the people mentioned in the original article.
Copernicus dedicated his book, On the Revolution of the Celestial Orbs, in which he gives an excellent account of heliocentricity, to Pope Paul III. His research was funded by a bishop.
Obviously, the Church didn't oppose the theory of heliocentrism per se, unlike the Lutherans. What the Church opposed was Galileo's demand that the Church teach heliocentrism as dogma. Otherwise the Church would have opposed Copernicus.
Ironically, while Galileo was right about heliocentrism, his science was flawed, and didn't prove his theory.
"Selling" of indulgences was always an abuse. Indulgences that involved almsgiving ended in 1567, the year before Urban was born.
But let's see... now you've brought up:
Liberals emote, they do not think.
I'd wager that you went to public school, are on the public dole and will actually vote for Soetoro.
Did you bother to read the entire article, which the Fox story provides a link to, or are you simply engaging in the lazy FR tradition of posting without reading?
You are an idiot.
Franco gets a bad rap.
Agreed, it would be like the political chainsaw massacre if he were around.
Hey, there’s something vaguely unsettling about the phrase “gay marriage stance”; luckily — I can’t put my finger on it! Oh! Ohhhhhhh!
I attended Catholic school (and was an altar boy back when the Mass was still said in Latin although I am an agnostic now). I have never, and will never, take any welfare. I won't be voting for Barry...but thanks for your kind words. You can take the money you would have wagered and send it to FreeRepublic. Be well.