Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Obama Revealed More Than His Birth Certificate Last Year
American Thinker ^ | 11/4/12 | Ronald Jay Polland

Posted on 11/04/2012 4:44:01 PM PST by null and void

When President Obama released his long-form Certificate of Live Birth on Apr. 27, 2011, (Picture 1), everyone in the press and the public had forgotten about the other birth certificate he released in 2008: the short-form Certification of Live Birth that his campaign staff posted on its website (Picture 2).

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; naturalborncitizen; onetermobama; polarik
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-56 next last
Today's latest...

Long article, lots of pictures.

(NOW they tell me it has to be excerpted, I coulda saved 45 minutes of inserting HTML. *sigh*)

1 posted on 11/04/2012 4:44:01 PM PST by null and void
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Absolutely Nobama; aragorn; Art in Idaho; Aurorales; autumnraine; azishot; AZ .44 MAG; bergmeid; ...
Constitutional Eligibility

2 posted on 11/04/2012 4:46:24 PM PST by null and void (Day 1384 of the Obama hostage crisis - Barack Hussein Obama an enemy BOTH foreign AND domestic)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: null and void
One thing Obama will have done is establish whole new realms of law devoted to the U.S. Constitution and Presidential Eligibility. He and Hairy Reed and Nuancy Pelosi will have much time to discuss the details in the Yard at Leavenworth.

And America must take action to update itself to these modern threats.

Obama could have been a Manchurian Candidate...but instead he became a narcissistic Wiley Coyote.

Buh-Bye, Barky. We will remember you...and make sure your kind can never return.

3 posted on 11/04/2012 4:51:27 PM PST by RoosterRedux (Obama: "If you've got a business -- you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: null and void

Mark.


4 posted on 11/04/2012 4:57:52 PM PST by Red Steel
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: null and void

So two different newspapers announced the birth in August 1961


5 posted on 11/04/2012 5:02:25 PM PST by FewsOrange
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: null and void

So, for those of us who are not inclined to wanna be super sleuths on a Sunday evening, just what is the distilled version?


6 posted on 11/04/2012 5:04:05 PM PST by mazda77
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RoosterRedux
>"Buh-Bye, Barky. We will remember you"


7 posted on 11/04/2012 5:04:20 PM PST by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: mazda77

Unfortunately there isn’t a distilled version.

Ahriman is still Ahriman.


8 posted on 11/04/2012 5:08:01 PM PST by null and void (Day 1384 of the Obama hostage crisis - Barack Hussein Obama an enemy BOTH foreign AND domestic)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: null and void
A "vault copy" of our long form birth certificate -- if there ain't none then we say so and make other arrangements.

Is it asking too much for the arrogant jerk to release a document that we little people are required to release many times throughout our life times?

All we are saying♩♪♫
is give release a chance♩♪♫

9 posted on 11/04/2012 5:19:34 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: mazda77
"just what is the distilled version?"

Zer0 has successfully finessed the eligibility issue for 5 years or so.

10 posted on 11/04/2012 5:20:16 PM PST by Paladin2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: rawcatslyentist
But the Dems will take a tad of Axelgrease and some mayonnaise from DWS's hair and polish that little thing into something shiny.

And serve it up for another 4 years.

But we aren't buying it. So peddle it somewhere else, Dems!

11 posted on 11/04/2012 5:23:22 PM PST by RoosterRedux (Obama: "If you've got a business -- you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: null and void

Very nice article. Thank you.

According to the movie: “Dreams from My REAL Father” the father on the original B/C was ‘unknown’ to disguise the fact it was Marshall Davis.

And that is why he is hiding it.


12 posted on 11/04/2012 5:55:47 PM PST by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Go Egypt on 0bama)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: null and void

BTTT


13 posted on 11/04/2012 6:30:59 PM PST by Jet Jaguar (The pundits have forgotten the 2010 elections.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Polarik; LucyT

Ping.


14 posted on 11/04/2012 6:34:43 PM PST by Jet Jaguar (The pundits have forgotten the 2010 elections.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: butterdezillion

Where’s the butter girl?


15 posted on 11/04/2012 6:47:14 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: null and void

Barack Obama’s School Records Released

A disgruntled Obama for America Campaign insider today released, in part, Barack Obama’s sealed school records to us after months of intense pressure from Republican critics.
According to records from the kindergarten he attended in Indonesia, Barry Soetoro (the name he was using at the time) was a reasonably good student and was popular with his classmates. Little Barry was also well liked by his teacher.

http://suckersonparade.blogspot.com/2012/11/barack-obamas-school-records-released.html


16 posted on 11/04/2012 7:50:40 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike (Feel the Power - GOP Tsunami Warning Issued for November 6th)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: null and void

Barack Obama’s School Records Released

A disgruntled Obama for America Campaign insider today released, in part, Barack Obama’s sealed school records to us after months of intense pressure from Republican critics.
According to records from the kindergarten he attended in Indonesia, Barry Soetoro (the name he was using at the time) was a reasonably good student and was popular with his classmates. Little Barry was also well liked by his teacher.

http://suckersonparade.blogspot.com/2012/11/barack-obamas-school-records-released.html


17 posted on 11/04/2012 7:51:13 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike (Feel the Power - GOP Tsunami Warning Issued for November 6th)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

If mom was legally married when BO was born, her husband is the legal father. Whether the bio-dad is someone else is quite irrelevant.

Also, could you explain to me why some birthers are obsessed with Mr. Davis being the “real” father? If they were able to prove this, perhaps by DNA evidence, then they would destroy their own case, as Davis was indisputably a native-born American citizen. This would make both BO’s parents native-born citizens, and make him one by the strictest possible standard.

Their only remaining hope would be a claim that BO was born outside the USA, perhaps in Kenya. But why would mom go to Kenya if Davis was actually the father?


18 posted on 11/04/2012 8:15:17 PM PST by Sherman Logan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: null and void

The last two bc images - the stamped date “2” in “2007” is different so it can’t be of the same document.


19 posted on 11/04/2012 8:40:32 PM PST by bgill (Evil doers are in every corner of our government. Have we passed the point of no return?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Sherman Logan

The same reason that a woman I knew went to visit the (wealthy) parents of her boyfriend with him when she was pregnant - with someone else’s child. The real father of her child was married, didn’t come from a wealthy family.


20 posted on 11/04/2012 8:46:09 PM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: null and void

Everything about Obama is more top secret than the plans for D-day. Remember the wing ding when Bush wouldn’t pony up his dental records fast enough? The whole situation is surreal and continues to emit a definite smoke = fire vibe.


21 posted on 11/04/2012 9:06:28 PM PST by Mad_as_heck (The MSM - America's (domestic) public enemy #1.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: kabumpo

But how could, given this proposed scenario, any of this have anything to do with BO’s eligibility to be elected President.


22 posted on 11/04/2012 9:16:20 PM PST by Sherman Logan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: Sherman Logan

There are many historical dots to be connected relative to Kenya and Obama’s mother as well as Obama himself.


23 posted on 11/04/2012 9:28:52 PM PST by noinfringers2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton
Frank Marshall Davis is not Obama's real father.

Dreams From My Real Father is nothing but a "Loose Change" kinda hoax. The director has a history of making crazy conspiracy videos. (Paul McCartney Really is Dead and Elvis Found Alive.)

Below are links that thoroughly debunk claims made in the DVD....

This first picture is a link to a YouTube video which proves the girl in this DVD is NOT Stanley Ann Dunham...

This image of some other fine DVD's by Director Joel Glbert is a link to a website that contains an in-depth look into Gilbert and Dreams from My Real Father...including an interview with the man who actually owns the home Frank Marshall Davis lived in. All information is sourced and linked where possible.

If you read through all the information on the website, you'll understand what a complete fraud the director is and how Dreams From My Real Father is one giant lie.

24 posted on 11/04/2012 9:58:40 PM PST by Tex-Con-Man (Muppet season now open - no bag limit)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

Comment #25 Removed by Moderator

To: Jim Robinson

Jim, the thread article is worth a read. This pretty much proves that Obama has not released any birth certificate. They are all forgeries.


26 posted on 11/05/2012 12:15:12 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article: http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: null and void; Fred Nerks; Polarik; Beckwith; TigersEye; little jeremiah; mojitojoe; LucyT

It is clear that from June 2008 until April 2011, the Hawaii Health Department blatently refused to confirm that they had issued any short-form birth certificate to Obama or anyone acting as his proxy. The Department refused to authenticate the scan image posted on Obama’s web site and the respective photos posted on Factcheck.org. Dr. Jerry Corsi who runs World Net Daily, was the first person to report that the Hawaii Dept. refused to authenticate Obama’s false online COLB. The reasons are obvious now: the Hawaiian Dept. never produced a genuine 2008 Certification of Live Birth for Obama, or even a genuine 2007 Certification of Live Birth; therefore there was nothing to authenticate.

The only way Obama or anyone could obtain a 2007 COLB, date-stamped June 6, 2007, in June 2008 is to have one forged, and that is exactly what Obama brought about. Normally, if anyone wanted to authenticate or verify a birth document, they would have a forensic document expert compare the forged copy with the real document. However, if no real document had existed, then there is nothing for a forensic document examiner to examine.

It is clear that Obama has been hoisted on his own petard, and the world should learn of it BEFORE the election on Tuesday.

This concludes the issue as to whether Obamas published birth certificates are forgeries. They conclusively are forgeries.Obama should be charged with electoral fraud, tried and jailed.


27 posted on 11/05/2012 12:33:28 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article: http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Candor7; Beckwith
This concludes the issue as to whether Obamas published birth certificates are forgeries. They conclusively are forgeries.Obama should be charged with electoral fraud, tried and jailed.

Again I raise the question:

With what birth certificate, if any, did BO establish his eligibility (must be a U.S. citizen in either case) for the public offices he previously held, those of IL state Senate and U.S. Senate?

28 posted on 11/05/2012 12:48:45 AM PST by thecodont
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: thecodont; Beckwith; Fred Nerks

With what birth certificate, if any, did BO establish his eligibility (must be a U.S. citizen in either case) for the public offices he previously held, those of IL state Senate and U.S. Senate? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

That question needs to be asked in courts of law for each state whose respective electoral commissions certified Obama as a US citizen and a proper candidate for the presidency.It is also a question that needs to be asked in Congress of Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, both of whom sponsored resolutions that accepted Obama as a qualified ,duly elected
president.

No newspaper or political hack will ever get a genuine response from Obama. The reply to that question must be compelled by due process and pain of perjury, in a venue which has the constitutional authority to decide the issue.

Or it NEEDS to become an generally publicly accepted electoral issue.

Choose your weapon?


29 posted on 11/05/2012 1:15:33 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article: http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: Candor7
each state whose respective electoral commissions certified Obama as a US citizen and a proper candidate for the presidency.

Do electoral commissions or Secretary's of State actually do that? Or do they just accept and file the paperwork?

I think there is little doubt they should certify legitimate eligibility, but AFAIK no state actually gives any entity involved in the process the power to do so.

IOW, I do not believe there is any person or group in any state authorized to unilaterally disqualify a presidential candidate as ineligible. Not even after the last four years. Numerous efforts were made to do so in various states, and every one was voted down by the legislature.

And do we really want there to be? Do we want a GOP candidate ruled ineligible by a CT commission, requiring an extended court case to have the ruling overturned?

30 posted on 11/05/2012 2:23:03 AM PST by Sherman Logan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: Candor7; butterdezillion
...That question needs to be asked in courts of law for each state whose respective electoral commissions certified Obama as a US citizen and a proper candidate for the presidency

maybe butter can tell you something about that.

31 posted on 11/05/2012 3:28:10 AM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: Sherman Logan; Candor7; Fred Nerks

After being pressured by a vocal group of constituents, AZ SOS Ken Bennett did the right thing and legally requested a verification of birth facts for Barack Obama, which is allowable by Hawaii law for government agencies who need to verify facts in order to maintain lists or to render services to somebody. The HDOH stalled for months, trying to claim Bennett was not qualified to receive a verification. Bennett, receiving constant pressure from his constituents and wanting the issue to go away, went to the news media saying that he might have to keep Obama off the ballot because Hawaii wouldn’t verify his birth facts.

The pressure succeeded in getting Hawaii to respond to Bennett by sending a verification, but though the law required the HDOH to verify everything submitted that they could certify as legally true, they STILL did not verify any submitted birth facts for Obama. They verified that they have a birth certificate for Obama and that the claims that are on the White House BC image “match” the record on file, but would NOT certify that the White House image is a “true and accurate representation of the original record on file” - thus confirming that it is NOT.

Responding to a later request by KS SOS Chris Kobach, the HDOH similarly confirmed that the claims on the WH BC image “match” the original record but would NOT certify that the information contained in the WH image is “identical to” the information in the original record - so whatever they mean by “match”, it is NOT “identical to”.

So the legal process worked. Two SOS’s were able to find out from the HDOH whether they have a legally valid birth certificate for Obama and whether Obama was born in Hawaii on Aug 4, 1961 to Stanley Ann Dunham and Barack Hussein Obama. The HDOH’s legal answer was no, they could not verify any of that because they have no legally valid record. It was answered according to the requirements of the governing Hawaii statute - only verifying the things that could be verified.

But the media reported the exact opposite, failing to look at what was actually submitted to registrar Alvin Onaka and failing to consider the law that governed Onaka’s response. Bennett, fearing ridicule from the media and simply wanting the issue to go away, said he would allow Obama on the ballot.

Attorney Larry Klayman sent a letter to DNC Counsel Bob Bauer, pointing out that HI registrar Onaka had confirmed that Obama’s HI BC is legally non-valid and that there is thus nobody in America who can lawfully certify that Obama is Constitutionally eligible to be POTUS, since there are no legally-established birth facts for Obama absent a legally valid BC. It would be subornation of perjury to counsel anybody to sign a certification for Barack Obama. That letter was delivered to Bauer’s office by courier at 2:27pm EDT 4 days before the DNC Convention began. The members of the DNC Executive Committee were all sent carbon copies of the letter as well, which were received at their offices the day the Convention began.

Bauer had Villaigarosa and Germond sign the certification anyway, suborning perjury. He submitted what he knew to be a perjurious Official Certification of Nomination (OCON) to nearly every Secretary of State within a day of the perjurious document being signed

Every state SOS, state dem party chair, and state AG received a carbon copy of the letter to Bauer as well. They also received a letter from a group of concerned citizens including Tom Ballantyne, Terry Lakin (formerly Lt Col Lakin, who spent 6 months in jail because he refused to obey orders that we now know were not lawful), CMDR Charles Kerchner (retired), and Lawrence Sellin (retired Spec Ops) pointing out their lawful duties.

And the state SOS’s and AG’s also received a letter from me, pointing out that the evidence previously used to presume that Obama is eligible... actually doesn’t contradict Onaka’s disclosure that Obama’s BC is legally non-valid - particularly the 1960-64 birth index, which has been proven to contain names from legally non-valid BC’s. My letter pointed out that any certification they received would immediately be known as fraudulent, and allowing a fraudulent OCON to be used to commit election fraud would make them complicit in the crime.

EVERY SOS BLEW THIS OFF. Some wrote back to me saying that the law doesn’t allow them to disqualify a candidate or to require proof of anything - totally sidestepping what I had just said to them about it being PUBLICLY KNOWN ALREADY THAT ANY OCON WOULD HAVE TO BE PERJURIOUS AND FRAUDULENT. It wasn’t an issue of needing more information; it was about already having it legally confirmed that the OCON was fraudulent.

I spent about 45 minutes on the phone with the legal counsel for NE SOS John Gale. I was told that even if Germond, Villaigarosa, and Bauer were sitting in jail convicted of perjury and fraud for that OCON, the SOS would still have to put Obama’s name on the ballot because NE law doesn’t say that the OCON submitted has to be LAWFUL (non-perjurious and non-fraudulent).

IOW, our system allows KNOWN FRAUD AND PERJURY to be effective in getting a name on the ballot.

I have yet to see whether the certifications for medical licenses, etc specifically say that documents have to be LAWFUL (non-perjurious and non-fraudulent). If this is the standard applied across-the-board, then every law requiring paperwork is gutless unless it specifically states that perjurious and fraudulent documents will be rejected.

Like I’ve been saying for a long time, this is about the rule of law. We don’t have it in the United States - at all. Every Secretary of State in the country knows that Obama’s Hawaii BC is non-valid and Obama cannot be certified as eligible. EVERY ONE OF THEM ACCEPTED WHAT THEY KNEW WAS A FRAUDULENT, PERJURIOUS OCON.


32 posted on 11/05/2012 6:35:00 AM PST by butterdezillion
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: butterdezillion

Just curious. You apparently believe Obama is not qualified to be president, not just that inadequate evidence has been prevented to document his eligibility.

Do you think he was born outside the USA? Or to another woman?

What specifically do you think is the reason he is ineligible?


33 posted on 11/05/2012 6:39:40 AM PST by Sherman Logan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: butterdezillion; null and void; Fred Nerks; Polarik; Beckwith; TigersEye; little jeremiah; ...
What a time to be re-hashing all this!

When the additional pictures were released, showing it folded, it was obvious that the paper was heavier than security paper as can be seen in this AT article showing genuine COLB's. They wrinkle quit easily. His is plain 20# copy paper.

34 posted on 11/05/2012 7:51:53 AM PST by GregNH (If you are unable to fight, please find a good place to hide.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: Candor7
However, if no real document had existed, then there is nothing for a forensic document examiner to examine.

Even the most mediocre document examiner can look at an electronic image of a badly forged document and determine that is is NOT authentic.

I wouldn't need to touch a document purportedly signed by Benjamin Franklin to know to a level of certainty that it fake, if I could see from the image that the signature was made with a ballpoint pen!

35 posted on 11/05/2012 7:56:28 AM PST by null and void (Day 1385 of the Obama hostage crisis - Barack Hussein Obama an enemy BOTH foreign AND domestic)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: Sherman Logan
Also, could you explain to me why some birthers are obsessed with Mr. Davis being the “real” father? If they were able to prove this, perhaps by DNA evidence, then they would destroy their own case, as Davis was indisputably a native-born American citizen. This would make both BO’s parents native-born citizens, and make him one by the strictest possible standard.

I seek the truth, no matter where it leads.

Even if that truth renders all the work I've done in the last 4-1/2 to 5 years moot.

Even if that truth means another 5 years of endless told-you-so's.

36 posted on 11/05/2012 8:00:57 AM PST by null and void (Day 1385 of the Obama hostage crisis - Barack Hussein Obama an enemy BOTH foreign AND domestic)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: Sherman Logan

I believe he was born outside the USA. There are at least 4 BC#’s that are on current BC’s that could not have been on those BC’s in 1961, including Obama’s, Stig Waidelich’s, Virginia Sunahara’s, and Johanna Ah Nee. The HDOH has confirmed that the BC# on the WH image is the BC# on Obama’s BC at their office, and the only way that could happen is if they issued a new BC for Obama based upon a law enforcement official claiming it was necessary, to protect Obama - in which case the BC will say whatever Eric Holder (or whichever henchmen he used for this job) says it has to say.

It is almost certain that the record they had on hand before creating this new BC did NOT claim a Kapiolani birth. If it had been a Kapiolani birth there would be no reason for his record to be legally non-valid. The HDOH at the time double-checked with the hospitals to make sure that any mistakes or problems were corrected.

The HDOH has confirmed that Obama amended his BC in late 2006/early 2007 and that there is supplemental evidence filed to support the claims on his BC, which would only be the case for a late and/or altered BC.

My belief is that Obama’s grandmother reported the birth to the local HI registrar in 1961, but since neither the mother nor baby were available to be examined in Hawaii the registrar was unable to get an affidavit from a HI doctor which was needed to complete the BC, which is why he had no 1961 BC#. When Obama was considering a run for POTUS he requested a copy of his HI BC but couldn’t get one because it wasn’t complete. So he amended it to add what was missing, using forged documents, and thought he was fine. But when he requested his COLB in June of 2007 he got back a COLB that was marked as “late” and “altered” and had either a 2006 BC# or else a BC# that was at the tail end of the 1961 BC#’s. That’s when they had to start the criminal fraud.

They arranged to use somebody else’s BC# on a COLB which they forged to put in the passport file. They took trophy photos of the forged document at that time, in Obama’s Chicago campaign office. It didn’t have a seal on it because the passport office would scan the document and a seal would not necessarily be expected to show up.

When questions arose they posted an image of the forged COLB, with the BC# redacted. The absence of the seal and BC# were problematic so they digitally added a seal to a couple of the photos they had taken earlier and had Factcheck claim to have taken the photos. They thought they were set.

When Clintons planned to present a petition challenging Obama’s eligibility at the 2008 Dem Convention, they started the “Recreate ‘68” idea, to try to scare away Hillary based on the threat of race riots. When that didn’t work they killed Bill Clinton’s good friend Bill Gwatney a couple weeks before the Convention - the AK Dem Party chair who had agreed to present the petition at the Convention. When that didn’t work they killed Rep. Stephanie Tubbs, who had agreed to present the petition after Gwatney was killed. When that didn’t work they threatened to kill Chelsea, and that got the Clintons to give it up. They also threatened the media. I believe they also made other threats but what is documented so far is that they threatened the media both before and after the election.

But people kept pushing to see the long-form. And requests from the HDOH were showing big obfuscation and problems there. And there were state eligibility bills being proposed - most critically in Arizona. After the midterm landslide in Nov of 2010, AZ legislator Judy Burges was saying she would push for an eligibility bill again, only this time with a veto-proof R majority. The bill would require a long-form BC to be submitted.

Newly-elected HI governor Neil Abercrombie was concerned. He said so publicly shortly before Christmas in 2010 in articles published in the NYT and LA Times - saying he was going to find a way to disclose Obama’s long-form. At the same time, the media was trying to portray Tea Partiers as being “birthers” and being violent. The AZ shooting that killed Judge John Roll (the guy who would hear eligibility challenges and was replaced by an Obama appointee) was framed that way initially.

At that point I believe that Eric Holder or a surrogate requested Abercrombie’s HDOH to create a new BC for Obama, claiming that it was necessary for his safety.That was the only way they could get the official record for Obama to have the BC# which had been used on the passport forgery/”Factcheck” photos. (New BC’s created this way were required to be given new BC#’s and to NOT replace the original record in the file - so if somebody knows the real information they could get the BC with that info, but the registrant could use this fake BC for “safety reasons”.)

But there was a snag. Neither Director Neal Palafox nor registrar Alvin Onaka would go along with it. That provision is only allowable for people who were born in Hawaii and there was no legally-valid record showing that Obama was born in Hawaii.

So Abercrombie balked when asked by a reporter how his search for the BC was going, since he hadn’t yet been able to get a new BC created. Claimed there was something “actually written down” in the archives - which makes no sense if there was a routine BC for him in the bound volumes. That statement got reported on Drudge, and Abercrombie’s friend Mike Evans called him up to see what was going on. Abercrombie told him there was no BC for Obama in HI, and Evans reported it on multiple radio programs. The issue was getting much worse, and Trump started picking up on it.

Abercrombie got rid of Palafox and put in Fuddy, who immediately set about claiming that they hadn’t been allowing any long-form copies to be issued since 2000. Never mind that there was video footage of long-forms being ordered at the HDOH office. It was necessary to get rid of the ability to get long-forms because they had to shift around BC#’s and it would be a big pain if they had to forge long-forms for all those people. Much easier if everything was done with computer printouts. They switched around BC#’s in the database (using BC#’s held by dead infants and complicit living persons) and released some records trying to make the BC#/”date filed” discrepancies go away (so the BC#’s would seem to be issued either randomly or alphabetically).

Onaka created a new BC for Obama under orders from Fuddy, but had it done poorly, in protest. He let Fuddy see it copied and certified (but with a certifying statement she didn’t know said TXE instead of THE, again in protest). After Fuddy saw the copy being made and left, Onaka had the BC stamped with LATE and ALTERED, and typed in a notation of the evidence submitted for Obama’s original, non-valid BC. The state registrar has the authority to refuse to issue a certified copy of a fraudulent BC, and Onaka knew that without the references showing the BC to be non-valid this would be an unlawful BC, since it was created for somebody who was NOT known to be born in Hawaii using a provision only allowable for Hawaii-born persons. He added a tiny smiley face to his signature as another red flag and put the copy in a sealed envelope, to surprise Obama’s attorney when she opened it up.

When Corley opened it up she had a cow. They had to get somebody to take off the LATE and ALTERED stamps and get rid of the notations of the evidence filed. That’s why they had to use layers to create the forged BC image even though Hawaii says their record makes the same claims as is on the WH image and they claimed to have given a certified (and thus paper) copy of the BC to Obama’s lawyer.

And since then Onaka’s red flags have caught the attention of a lot of people, including Sheriff Joe’s posse. Lead investigator Mike Zullo has said that the smiley face and TXE was what initially changed his mind from thinking the “birther” stuff was a bunch of garbage.

When Onaka confirmed to AZ SOS Ken Bennett that Obama’s BC is non-valid, I began to think that Onaka is one of the good guys. Or at least somebody who knows that when the computer and microfilm records are audited (hopefully in a criminal investigation after Obama is ousted) this whole big mess will be exposed. He has been consistent in 3 verifications now, and my opinion of him has drastically improved with each red flag he has put out there.

Though this is long, it is extremely condensed, leaving out a lot of details and supporting evidence that all lines up. I’ve left out a lot. But this scenario explains the “WTF” events we’ve all observed in the past 4 years and I know of nothing that contradicts anything in this theory.

Somebody admitted to me in a comment to my blog that he helped commit the felony of Obama’s forgery but said that it would be useless to report him because Obama is immune and so is he. Said the FBI would laugh if I reported it because the FBI knows they did it and would cover for those involved. Could be somebody just goofing, but he went to the trouble of using a gateway to hide where he posted from, and tripwires to fry the computer of anybody who got close to finding where he really posted from. That seems a bit excessive for somebody who was “just kidding” , wouldn’t you say?


37 posted on 11/05/2012 8:12:49 AM PST by butterdezillion
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: null and void

Bookmark.


38 posted on 11/05/2012 8:18:27 AM PST by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: thecodont

I believe he did not use either forgery to establish his citizenship and eligibility at all. 49 states ratified his candidacy flat out. Hawaii had an issue with doing so and left one sentence out of their confirmation. Nancy pelosi signed off on It as the speaker of the house. No formal USA investigation of any proof ever happened.


39 posted on 11/05/2012 8:50:48 AM PST by Yaelle
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: null and void

In the article it states that Obama has spent $2 million to keep his records hidden. Obama doesn’t have $2 million to spend on that, so who is paying?

Did he record it as a “gift” on his income tax?


40 posted on 11/05/2012 8:50:58 AM PST by mom.mom
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: mom.mom

Most likely it’s government paid attorneys “protecting” the president and the constitution.

Tax dollars are not a gift, they are his by right of conquest.


41 posted on 11/05/2012 9:05:52 AM PST by null and void (Day 1385 of the Obama hostage crisis - Barack Hussein Obama an enemy BOTH foreign AND domestic)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

To: butterdezillion

Whoa, butter. I didn’t know about that commenter nor about the potential murders to shut up Clinton. I learn more from you than from anyone else on this issue.

I still believe in occams’s razor. Barack Obama was first known to have been seen as a newborn in Seattle, with a Stanley anne who didn’t know even how to change a diaper. This sounds like she gave birth in an unwed mothers home in Canada like any of her past Seattle schoolmates in high school would have done if they’d gotten “in trouble.” She was meant to give up the black baby for adoption. But then after birth she must have asked for him back and kept him.

Little did she and her parents know that when the father is not American, the mother had to have spent 5 years after age 15 or some such in the USA in order to confer her citizenship on the child. She had him at barely 18 so she could not.

Little Barack was put on his moms passport for the trip to Indonesia, and there he was eligible for an Indonesian passport, his only until the us senate gave him his official one.

I SAW THAT LITTLE PIECE OF VIDEO here on FR where Keyes is debating him for senate and he accuses Obama of not even being a citizen, and Obama says something like “We are talking about the senate here, not the presidency.”

He’s the embodiment of the Dream Act.


42 posted on 11/05/2012 9:44:08 AM PST by Yaelle
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: null and void
I seek the truth, no matter where it leads.

Fair enough.

But how is the identity of Obama's bio-dad relevant to his eligibility?

I believe that the law in all 50 states presently recognizes the legal father as not necessarily being the same person as the bio-dad.

Somehow it reminds me of claims that Charles VII wasn't "really" the son of Charles VI, and so had no claim to the French throne. (Given what we know of his mother's morals, this is entirely possible.)

But in America we have no idea that rank is hereditary, and so I just fail to see how any of your admirably hard work is relevant.

43 posted on 11/05/2012 10:03:36 AM PST by Sherman Logan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: mom.mom

” In the article it states that Obama has spent $2 million to keep his records hidden. Obama doesn’t have $2 million to spend on that, so who is paying?

Did he record it as a “gift” on his income tax? “

Someone on FR posted that lawyers investigating that had determined that by now ‘he’ has already spent $12 million on the coverup.

Soros’ pit is bottomless. Any amount for his program. And 0 is a bought-and-paid-for clown/lacky.


44 posted on 11/05/2012 10:31:54 AM PST by PraiseTheLord
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

To: null and void

If the entirety of the general public could read Polarik’s article in this thread, hell, Obama would be shown the door at the ballot box.

This is not over by a long shot. Wait until after Obama leaves office, and then watch all the shite come down.


45 posted on 11/05/2012 10:32:05 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article: http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: Sherman Logan

Bio-dad? I didn’t ask who his biological father is, I ask who is his father of actual legal record?

Were both his legal parents American citizens at the time of his birth? Was he born on American soil?

I can’t honestly say I know the answer to either question.

I seek the truth.

What do you seek?


46 posted on 11/05/2012 10:35:15 AM PST by null and void (Day 1385 of the Obama hostage crisis - Barack Hussein Obama an enemy BOTH foreign AND domestic)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | View Replies]

To: Sherman Logan

I think there is little doubt they should certify legitimate eligibility, but AFAIK no state actually gives any entity involved in the process the power to do so>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
In all states, that duty is left to the executive officers of the political party of the candidate in question.They are bound to follow Article II of the constitution but there is no other statute compelling them to do so.In these modern times, it is rare, but these executive officers are directly bound by Article II.


47 posted on 11/05/2012 3:23:02 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article: http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: butterdezillion; Sherman Logan; Candor7; Fred Nerks

Well then, it looks like Obama can be indicted , on Jan. 21st, 2013.


48 posted on 11/05/2012 3:25:59 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article: http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: Candor7

Unless politics trumps the rule of law.And that is my fear.


49 posted on 11/05/2012 3:31:35 PM PST by butterdezillion
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 48 | View Replies]

To: Candor7; butterdezillion

It looks to me like...(and I don’t have a handle on it like butter has, bless her...) if there are no penalties for making an untrue or outright false declaration, there’s no impediment to doing so.
The signature is placed on the document purely on the basis of the honour of the signatory.
And in the absence of a penalty, recource to a false declaration in this instance should be sought in the Constitiution. Is that right?
Where the requirement for legibility is somewhat loosley defined, if at all, because ‘natural born citizen’ is able to be interpreted, and different sides of the political spectrum find it convenient to interprete this situation to their own advantage.
And his sponsors must have been perfectly aware of the loophole.
That’s why DREAMS was written. To give him a family and a background.
Unlike us, the people who foisted him onto the public, didn’t wait to find all this out the hard way (as butter did) THEY KNEW ABOUT THE LOOPHOLE BEFOREHAND.
It’s too late is it, to require the identity of a candidate to be firmly established before he or she is able to stand for elected office?

Because it seems to me (I’m an Australian) it’s not only his place and date of birth no one knows, what is also missing is any knowledge of who both his parents were/are.

Look at it this way. The question wouldn’t apply to Romney because you would easily be able to establish where and when he attended schools or college. There would be photographs of him with his parents and extended family, I daresay if one asked for it, he could show you photographs of himself with his mother and grandmother when he was a baby. Unlike zero, whose family album doesn’t start until he’s over two years of age.
In short, all the normal things one would expect to find OF A KNOWN INDENTITY, Mitt Romney would be able to show you.
ALL OF WHICH ARE MISSING FROM THE ZERO BACKGROUND.

I’ll keep repeating myself although it makes a lot of freepers angry and has caused my comments to be very unwelcome. The primary question shouldn’t ever have been if he is/was eligible. It was always an empty question WHILE NO ONE KNOWS WHO HIS PARENTS ARE/WERE OF WHERE HE CAME FROM.

With nothing more than a forged birth certificate, you don’t know what his name was at birth.


50 posted on 11/05/2012 4:54:15 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 48 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-56 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson