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FEMA Forced to Solicit Water Bids for Sandy Victims
Newsman.com ^ | 05 Nov 2012 | Newsmax Wires

Posted on 11/05/2012 8:22:55 AM PST by Qbert

The Obama administration's strategy of prepositioning supplies for quick distribution in disasters apparently has fallen short on meeting the demand for drinking water in the aftermath of Hurricane Sandy.

  "The agency [FEMA} appears to have been unprepared to distribute bottled water to Hurricane Sandy victims when the storm hit [last Monday]," Breitbart News reported over the weekend.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: doublestandard; fema; obama; obamafails; obamafailure; obamalegacy; obamasfault; obamatheinept; obamatheuseless; sandy; sandydrinkingwater; sandyfema; sandywaterbids
According to Breitbart.com: "FEMA only began to solicit bids for vendors to provide bottled water for distribution to Hurricane Sandy victims on Friday...."

Outstanding job, Barack...

1 posted on 11/05/2012 8:22:56 AM PST by Qbert
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To: Qbert

Fema I can understand. Where is the Red Cross?


2 posted on 11/05/2012 8:25:22 AM PST by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: Qbert

You’re doing a great job Hussein.


3 posted on 11/05/2012 8:27:08 AM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Qbert

I am surprised that obama hasn’t confiscated a million bottles of water from some mean and greedy water bottling company . . . or taken it from thirsty soldiers in afghanistan.


4 posted on 11/05/2012 8:29:13 AM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: Qbert

Do woman or minority owned vendors get preference?


5 posted on 11/05/2012 8:29:40 AM PST by Cowboy Bob (Greed + Envy = Liberalism)
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To: Qbert

These are the lamest bunch of conspiratorial shadowy overlords ever. I need a better nemesis.


6 posted on 11/05/2012 8:39:39 AM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Qbert

When it came to distribution during hurricane Katrina, Walmart came through when others couldn’t.


7 posted on 11/05/2012 8:41:54 AM PST by Son House (Romney Plan: Cap Spending At 20 Percent Of GDP.)
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To: Qbert

The Free Market is more efficient than the Government?

Who knew?


8 posted on 11/05/2012 8:41:54 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (0BAMA CHOSE to watch a MUSLIM SNUFF FILM rather than a HEROIC AMERICAN RESCUE FILM)
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To: Enterprise

It’s the same old story with this guy- it always about politics. Confronted with a crisis in Benghazi... he thought about his big fundraiser the next day. Confronted with a crisis here... he failed to do the basic pre-planning that was necessary, and focused instead on quick in-and-out photo ops. And now people are suffering.


9 posted on 11/05/2012 8:45:06 AM PST by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: Qbert

I wonder if that frickin genius Bloomberg ever got the generators out of Central Park that were there for the marathon and moved them to the flood area? In the comment I read, he said he thought they’d have to go over to Jersey first for some kind of modification. Yeah, dumbass, they have different power in jersey...


10 posted on 11/05/2012 8:45:22 AM PST by bigbob
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To: cableguymn

Lots of hurricane victims asking that, too. I haven’t seen any stories of them out there, yet. Maybe they are, but no one’s covering it yet.


11 posted on 11/05/2012 8:45:36 AM PST by carriage_hill ("0bummer's a towering figure" - even a Garden Gnome casts a long shadow at sunset.)
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To: cableguymn

FEMA has internal bureaucratic constrictions which PREVENT their ability to respond on a timely and effective manner. The deficiencies are structural, not necessarily political, and it is only poetic justice that the Current Regime find the exercise of “relief” through this agency is as frustrating for them, as it was for the Bush Administration during the crisis in New Orleans after Katrina.

Romney’s objective of dismantling FEMA and returning the duties of disaster relief to the states is the long-term solution, but for right now, there are WAY too many layers of officials with whom the efforts must be “co-ordinated”.

The Red Cross is encountering these same layers of obstinate resistance to outside help, and much of it comes from Democrat officeholders.

And the Red Cross is not alone in being unable to deliver relief to the affected areas. A number of other charitable organizations, and crews from other areas that rushed in to help restore utilities and clear storm damage, were turned back before they were allowed to enter the region.


12 posted on 11/05/2012 8:50:41 AM PST by alloysteel (Bronco Bama - the cowboy who whooped up and widened the stampede.)
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To: cableguymn

FEMA has internal bureaucratic constrictions which PREVENT their ability to respond on a timely and effective manner. The deficiencies are structural, not necessarily political, and it is only poetic justice that the Current Regime find the exercise of “relief” through this agency is as frustrating for them, as it was for the Bush Administration during the crisis in New Orleans after Katrina.

Romney’s objective of dismantling FEMA and returning the duties of disaster relief to the states is the long-term solution, but for right now, there are WAY too many layers of officials with whom the efforts must be “co-ordinated”.

The Red Cross is encountering these same layers of obstinate resistance to outside help, and much of it comes from Democrat officeholders.

And the Red Cross is not alone in being unable to deliver relief to the affected areas. A number of other charitable organizations, and crews from other areas that rushed in to help restore utilities and clear storm damage, were turned back before they were allowed to enter the region.


13 posted on 11/05/2012 8:51:34 AM PST by alloysteel (Bronco Bama - the cowboy who whooped up and widened the stampede.)
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To: Qbert
President Obama, people in New Jersey and New York are without food, power, fuel, and some are homeless. They are freezing and in some cases, they are dumpster diving for food. What are your plans?

Obama: "Vegas baby, Vegas!"

14 posted on 11/05/2012 8:55:01 AM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: bigbob

The last thing I read about it was that the stuff was still there.


15 posted on 11/05/2012 8:56:02 AM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Cowboy Bob
Do woman or minority owned vendors get preference?

Only if they are homo, lesbian or convertible.


16 posted on 11/05/2012 9:00:57 AM PST by Iron Munro ("Strange how paranoia can link up with reality now and then." -- Philip K. Dick)
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To: alloysteel

Disaster response was better in the 1960s. It had a much larger element of regular people, civic organizations, and the national guard was the backbone.
Hell, even Boy Scouts were involved.

FEMA and modern “critical incident response” is about control freak government, not relief to the victims.


17 posted on 11/05/2012 9:08:48 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: alloysteel

Disaster response was better in the 1960s. It had a much larger element of regular people, civic organizations, and the national guard was the backbone.
Hell, even Boy Scouts were involved.

FEMA and modern “critical incident response” is about control freak government, political posturing, certifications for GS employess, etc. The one thing it is NOT about is relief to the victims.


18 posted on 11/05/2012 9:12:02 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: DesertRhino

Bids hell call Wal-Mart they would deliver it..Target also


19 posted on 11/05/2012 9:25:33 AM PST by Hojczyk
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To: bigbob

One of he big problems in NYC is that a huge number of people live in high rise buildings where elevators are the only practical way for residents to get to and from their apartments. Also (somebody expert in architecture for such buildings please correct me if I’m wrong) it appears they wold need electric pumps to get water to the higher floors. A lot could be done for such buildings’ residents if the city just moved generators from building to building, providing power to run such services.


20 posted on 11/05/2012 9:33:05 AM PST by libstripper
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To: cableguymn
Fema I can understand. Where is the Red Cross?

Red Cross is to busy running campaign adds for Obama to worry about someone being thirsty/cold and hungry.
I wonder if they have started looking into changing their name from Red Cross to Red Sickle yet since the people running it now have no problem campaigning for communism .

Americans need to stop supporting these big charities that have been infested with socialist
I gave to Samaritan's Purse , they had trucks with volunteers going into these areas right away . And many local churches did the same .
21 posted on 11/05/2012 9:53:48 AM PST by Lera (Proverbs 29:2)
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To: Qbert

FEMA needs to spend more time and money prepping for disasters (food, water, emergency supplies) and less on military weapons, ammunition, $300,000 Armored Assault vehicles and Fascist plans to lock up Bitter Clingers.


22 posted on 11/05/2012 10:01:40 AM PST by Iron Munro ("Strange how paranoia can link up with reality now and then." -- Philip K. Dick)
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To: Son House

This in NJ, they would turn the Wal-Mart trucks around because the are non-union.


23 posted on 11/05/2012 10:24:30 AM PST by matt04
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To: Cowboy Bob
Do woman or minority owned vendors get preference?

There IS provision in the federal contracting system to give preferences to woman- or minority-owned business. But there is also provision to instill emergency measures to bypass a lot of regulations and procedures that would otherwise be in play.
24 posted on 11/05/2012 10:25:00 AM PST by righttackle44 (I may not be much, but I raised a United States Marine .)
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To: libstripper

In the case of tall buildings, typically taller than 10 stories, you are exactly correct. Municipal water pressure can never push/lift water higher than that with meaningful pressure. Tall buildings not only have to be built with booster pumps on subsequently higher floors but they must have backup power to run them. These are not only “good sense” rules but are fire code rules to make sure a fire can be fought internally. What’s cute, and it’s not a rule, is that most of these tall places get built with the generators IN THE BASEMENT which is just where they need to be in a FLOOD. Who would EVER guess that a basement might flood on a friggen island that is built on sand that has a natural water table about 10 feet below surface?


25 posted on 11/05/2012 10:28:56 AM PST by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: righttackle44

Yes, but will they?


26 posted on 11/05/2012 10:59:56 AM PST by Cowboy Bob (Greed + Envy = Liberalism)
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To: Qbert

Finally heard from a dear friend in Long Island - he of course is without power but was somewhat prepared. With no power he hasn’t heard 1/2 of this crap that is going on.

He said it looks like freakin Beirut there, as I can surmise from the photos I’ve seen.

And yet the media does what it does best - hides the truth.


27 posted on 11/05/2012 11:01:16 AM PST by AllAmericanGirl44 (Fluck this adminstration of misfits.)
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To: cableguymn

Red Cross is another bloated, ineffective bureaucracy. Smaller, private charities and individual efforts to help are much more effective.

If they really wanted supplies to increase rapidly, they would do away with price gouging laws. People in nearby areas would bring supplies in by the truck load if they could charge more than what they paid for them. In short order, supply and demand would equalize to create nearer to normal prices, but in the meantime, people would get what they needed and they would naturally conserve by buying only what they needed. This would ensure that there would be more brought in and enough to go around.

Every time government tries to help, it makes things worse.


28 posted on 11/05/2012 11:09:28 AM PST by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: Son House

When it came to distribution during hurricane Katrina, Walmart came through when others couldn’t.

Isn’t it a bitch the NY city has refused to allow a Walmart to be built in the city.


29 posted on 11/05/2012 11:13:10 AM PST by lonerepubinma
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To: Lera
I gave to Samaritan's Purse

Samaritan's Purse is THE WAY to go! They are ready to work with all tools, backhoes and food/water! The BEST of the BEST!! Always ready. They are packed up and left already!

30 posted on 11/05/2012 12:13:20 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Qbert

“The agency [FEMA} appears to have been unprepared to distribute bottled water...”

Give FEMA a break. Distributing bottled water is a fairly complex task.

I mean it is so volatile it could, uh, oh well....

You know, because it has such a short shelf life, uh, oh well....

But really you don’t want it falling into the wrong hands, uh, I guess that’s really not, oh well....

I take that back. A trained monkey could hand out bottles of water.


31 posted on 11/05/2012 1:16:30 PM PST by Gabrial (The nightmare will continue as long as the nightmare is in the Whitehouse.)
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To: presently no screen name

“Samaritan’s Purse is THE WAY to go!”

Samaritan’s Purse gets top rating for charities. Four Stars.

Beats Red Cross (Three Stars)

http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=4423


32 posted on 11/05/2012 1:27:08 PM PST by Gabrial (The nightmare will continue as long as the nightmare is in the Whitehouse.)
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To: Qbert
Has anyone besides me ever heard of AquaMajic (http://www.aquamagic.us/media.htm)? I've done some reading on it and the technology is sound, but at $30K per unit I'm not about to get one for testing.
33 posted on 11/05/2012 2:40:12 PM PST by Traveler59 ( Truth is a journey, not a destination.)
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To: alloysteel

I have a simple solution for FEMA’s bureaucratic problems: FIRE THEM ALL!

See how easy that is?


34 posted on 11/05/2012 2:45:13 PM PST by Fledermaus (Democrats are dangerous and evil. Republicans are just useful idiots.)
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To: Qbert

This reminds me of the Katrina “ice” capades.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/02/national/nationalspecial/02ice.html?pagewanted=print


35 posted on 11/05/2012 3:59:17 PM PST by a real Sheila (RYAN/romney 2012)
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To: Fledermaus

It is easy...if one has experience in business....


36 posted on 11/05/2012 6:13:01 PM PST by sarasmom
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To: sarasmom

How many days did we watch Sandy come up the coast.
Trucks should have been loaded and ready to go.
FEMA is nothing more than a brokering agency from what I can see!
With out a purchase order no one gets anything!
And no one wants to do anything with out a George Washington
Added!
We were Lucky and had no damage or power outage but I do know this, I will never depend on Government to help me out in a crisis!


37 posted on 11/05/2012 6:31:06 PM PST by Conserev1
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To: Qbert

The root of the problem isn’t in procuring more cases of bottled water. The issue is to deliver a commonly used commodity at the least cost with most rapid delivery to a broad area.

Use you existing pipelines and fire mains.
Establish watering points.
Issue 5 gal cans and provide the water freely, then govt picks up the tab to pump the water.

What next? Try to replace sanitary sewers and toilets by handing out pallets of plastic ziplock bags and Handi-Wipes?

Our society has become too much of a drive-thru society and not enough hands-on entrepreneurs.


38 posted on 11/05/2012 7:17:54 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Conserev1
FEMA is the Federal agency in charge of reallocating federal funds in natural disasters back to states, in declared Federal emergencies.

Because when 72 hours counts, FEMA is only 248 hours away.

And the entire FEMA staff are paid a very nice annual salary to always be “prepared to help”.

Whether or not they are of any actual use to actual citizens matters less than whether they are usefull to politicians at every level, bent on CYA activities.

39 posted on 11/05/2012 7:46:44 PM PST by sarasmom
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To: Gabrial; Lera; presently no screen name

Is Operation Blessing in the devastated areas?
Surely they are.

That’s the 700 Club’s relief program - also got high on Charity Navigator some years ago.


40 posted on 11/05/2012 8:29:13 PM PST by USARightSide (S U P P O R T I N G OUR T R O O P S)
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To: libstripper
Most (95%) of NYC is gravity fed from the Catskills. They don't need pumps to have water at ground level. People can come down with jugs to get it.

I don't understand the water shortage for the rest, it's not like the whole country is down, a dozen or so miles inland there is plenty of water and upstate NY has loads of swimming pool tankers to fill up, also diesel is available to fuel the trucks to bring it in.

Of course if they must have Aquafina in eco-bottles then yes, there may be shortages.

41 posted on 11/05/2012 10:21:33 PM PST by this_ol_patriot
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