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2012 ELECTION LIVE THREAD II !!!!!!!!
Link to thread I ^

Posted on 11/06/2012 4:02:30 PM PST by GQuagmire

Edited on 11/06/2012 5:00:14 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Since I haven't seen one yet, I'll start it.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government
KEYWORDS: 2012electionlive; election; live2012election
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To: boatbums

I agree that God is ultimately in control; but He also allows humans to have free will. within certain constraints. But when that free will is misused, humans have to suffer the consequences. And stuff happens, too. Because this world is far from perfect and was designed that way.

Sometimes uprisings and revolutions and genocide happen. I think we will see very rought times here.


1,801 posted on 11/06/2012 11:09:57 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: over3Owithabrain

Have you ever looked at the consequences of such a belief system? And of denying it? I will not save my sermon. I will tell everyone. Beliefs have consequences.


1,802 posted on 11/06/2012 11:10:59 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (cat dog, cat dog, alone in the world is a little cat dog)
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To: rainee

That’s a shame


1,803 posted on 11/06/2012 11:11:21 PM PST by tsowellfan
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To: HiTech RedNeck
If you were not fooled, why is your reaction to the ones who were fooled......

Were they fooled or just perpetually foolish in the way they view and live life.
I have no sympathy for the perpetually foolish.
Enough with the idiots who bring trouble on themselves, let them get by the best way they can.
I'm really reevaluating my views on people tonight.
Me and my kind, true conservatives, count, but others do not in anyway.
Harsh yes, but I'm in a harsh mood and it probably will last.
Enough is enough!

1,804 posted on 11/06/2012 11:11:32 PM PST by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: little jeremiah
He also allows humans to have free will. within certain constraints. But when that free will is misused, humans have to suffer the consequences

Cuba, Venezuela and North Korea are great examples of that.

1,805 posted on 11/06/2012 11:12:59 PM PST by tsowellfan
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To: The Cajun

Why did your mood not translate into even the smallest practical helpful action? The polls were stolen. They were stuffed, they were engineered. This is not the result of a free play of ideas.


1,806 posted on 11/06/2012 11:13:08 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (cat dog, cat dog, alone in the world is a little cat dog)
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To: The Cajun

And Barack is probably very happy with you wanting to be thus divided. If you could convince some fools through kindness that they were treated as dirt by others, you might gain a friendly force.


1,807 posted on 11/06/2012 11:14:18 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (cat dog, cat dog, alone in the world is a little cat dog)
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To: TheBigJ

A coup we knew. We fought the last battle knowing that if we lost, it would be the last peaceful day in many of our lives. It’s on now and there is no turning back. I stayed very silent mostly during this time because I saw the bigger picture and like you, the vast overconfidence of those who hate our independence and our patriotism. We are not welcome anymore in our own country. Decency has been overcome by an army of darkness, of evil. Evil has grown so strong that there is no longer any peaceful way out. Depravity and insanity now rule this world and those of us who see it must somehow try to remain sane and defeat it one way or another.
The Mayans were right. This is truly the end of the world as we have known it.


1,808 posted on 11/06/2012 11:15:16 PM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills and none dare call it treason)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

At the very least, they should consider Pascal’s wager.


1,809 posted on 11/06/2012 11:16:09 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Tainan

Anyhow it sounds like he’s out a job he thought he would get.


1,810 posted on 11/06/2012 11:17:08 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (cat dog, cat dog, alone in the world is a little cat dog)
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To: tsowellfan

And what will we see here.


1,811 posted on 11/06/2012 11:17:20 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: rainee

Haven’t posted thread on here before so not sure how to do!
but the link below is worth commenting on? Thanks all!..I’m just as crushed as everyone but..live to fight another day :)

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-11-06/dollar-is-near-8-week-high-against-euro-before-u-s-poll-results.html


1,812 posted on 11/06/2012 11:18:24 PM PST by rainee (Her)
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To: All

I’m done for the night folks.

It is what it is, but I am not done.

Obama can not out run his polarizing community organizing BS this time. He is NOT a UNITER.

I am taking notes.


1,813 posted on 11/06/2012 11:18:33 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: MestaMachine

I cannot disagree with the comment you just made above.

I cannot even imagine the dark storm ahead.


1,814 posted on 11/06/2012 11:19:02 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: tcrlaf

“We are going to be the first generation that has to explain to it’s Grand-children, why they don’t have the same life opportunities that they had. CONGRATULATIONS...”

This is what happens when RINOS are nominated. If we want to win we should nominate actual conservative candidates.


1,815 posted on 11/06/2012 11:19:56 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: little jeremiah

One wonders if, in an unguarded moment, he would say “BY GOD, I’m not buying it” — and then stop to reflect on what that means. That the very God that he is despairing on exercising a credible presence in the state of affairs he sees, is the authority to which he instinctively reaches in order to damn the state of affairs he sees.


1,816 posted on 11/06/2012 11:20:42 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (cat dog, cat dog, alone in the world is a little cat dog)
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To: GeronL

I can’t believe what is happening; we have the stupidest voters in America. All of us who know this are for the second time going to be punished with another 4 years of this abject destruction from this pathetic administration that will in short order destroy a once great country.

I no longer care for the people of Jersey, New York, or any other Blue State and I will with relish as I hope to watch the North Easter again make their lives a misery. They want the Government to be their savior, so be it; sounds like it has been swell so far! The only thing that hurts my heart and makes me morn is for the precious animals that have suffered and perhaps be abandoned or will die in the next as well as the previous round of storms. These people can just drop in the ocean for all I care; they deserve to reap what they sow as I must suffer their short sighted vision.

This was our last chance and it appears gone as I write at 12.34 AM. Long past time to pretend that the ship turns around in my life time. America is no longer “the Shining city On A Hill” It is now Obamaville soon to be decayed, robbed of its glory and decency in all the years left to me. I am so sorry for all of us that had such high hopes that people had a smidgen of sense; too much to hope for.

I can not comprehend this? How can this be possible? Allen West may loose and Warren takes Brown in Massachusetts not that I am a fan of Brown but Warren is a liberal whack job, just shoot me now! I think I hate America and I have the same contempt obama has but for the opposite reasons. What a hell-hole we inherit and must endure; it is just too painful to have to face twice, that’s eight years! It is just not eight years to many, it is all over, there is nothing left to save. It is as if all the intelligent Americans have all been sentenced without reprieve, though I realize that is the way of the world; murder and mayhem await the enlightened intellectuals and anyone whom should just have different ideas about how they want to live. I guess for now we can be happy they are not lining us up to be shot!

I think my news days are over for awhile, Rush is the only one that I will listen to.


1,817 posted on 11/06/2012 11:21:30 PM PST by tcat
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Why did your mood not translate into even the smallest practical helpful action?

And what action is that???
My state has voter ID and is very RED.
It's up to the people of Ohio, Wis, etc if they want to accept this crap or fight.
If they accept, the hell with them.

1,818 posted on 11/06/2012 11:22:50 PM PST by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: little jeremiah
I'm glad I paused my DVR prior to Ovomit's speech, so I could speed through the Marxist' agenda.


After 4 years, I will stop watching Fox News forever.
Fox had plenty of time to report, without the PC bullcrap "fair and balanced.."
Fox News is a LEFT WING organization that has FAILED AND BETRAYED THE PEOPLE!

I'm looking forward to killing my TV with a hammer.
So sick of the talking heads!! THE DRAMA IS OVER!!!
Let the economic failure Begin.

UNPLUG ALL CABLE NEWS!!
1,819 posted on 11/06/2012 11:24:43 PM PST by goron (It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees.)
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To: little jeremiah

If it takes outraging America with the farce that the elections were to upset this apple cart, then that’s what it takes. God will bring it about. Will America remember enough of what it used to be to respond. I hope the rednecks of America (and rednecks come in many colors) will do just that.

It sucks to be in the middle of it all, of course. But God has not jettisoned His throne which is in heaven.


1,820 posted on 11/06/2012 11:24:58 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (cat dog, cat dog, alone in the world is a little cat dog)
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To: tcat

“we have the stupidest voters in America. “

The UFT and NEA have done their work well, then.


1,821 posted on 11/06/2012 11:25:55 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: sf4dubya

What Romney did to Mourdock and Akin was disgraceful. He was never worthy of our support in the first place.


1,822 posted on 11/06/2012 11:26:13 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: The Cajun

You are just one state, and the dickens with others?

Yours will sink along with the fortunes of those that “””elected””” Barack again.


1,823 posted on 11/06/2012 11:26:25 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (cat dog, cat dog, alone in the world is a little cat dog)
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WE’RE DOOMED.


1,824 posted on 11/06/2012 11:26:54 PM PST by yield 2 the right (WE'RE DOOMED.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Well they just earned themselves a potty mouthed “””el presidente Mark II”””.

I hope they like it.


1,825 posted on 11/06/2012 11:27:46 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (cat dog, cat dog, alone in the world is a little cat dog)
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To: tcat

I don’t think “voters” failed. I think custodians of voting failed.


1,826 posted on 11/06/2012 11:29:44 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (cat dog, cat dog, alone in the world is a little cat dog)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

This is a very stupid country.


1,827 posted on 11/06/2012 11:30:16 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: HiTech RedNeck
You know what's coming and there will be no easy, polite way to save this country, if it's still possible.
1,828 posted on 11/06/2012 11:32:28 PM PST by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: over3Owithabrain
Really? To "heck" with God because you don't like how this election turned out? What I think is a whole lot scarier than God having an overall plan for the ages is the idea that there is no God or that He doesn't care what happens to us if he does exist. You've got chaos if that's the case and NOTHING has meaning or purpose. I'm sure the disciples of Jesus were pretty certain it had all gone to heck and they were fools for following him for three years - but you know what? it WAS all part of God's plan and through Christ we are redeemed. Through his death and resurrection, we have a real reason for hope.

God IS in control and, though I don't know what His plan for America is, I trust Him to do what is right. He didn't MAKE people vote for Obama, but it is still part of His plan nonetheless. Nothing takes Him by surprise. If we are His, we need fear nothing that man can do to us.

Will not the Judge of all the earth do right? (Genesis 18:25)

1,829 posted on 11/06/2012 11:35:09 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: dfwgator

I believe the country was stupified. I believe even we were stupified. Nobody believed that an army of questionable “voters” was a risk, except in the most generalized of terms.

Well, America’s holiday from the reality of the evil world has come to an end. To be attacked in war by a frank enemy would be preferable to this, being rotted from within.

Now when the power of darkness comes in like a flood, (sometimes) the Lord will raise up a banner. This could be the biggest boon that the churches of the country have ever had. They will be the chief lights when all the other lights have been put out.


1,830 posted on 11/06/2012 11:37:48 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (cat dog, cat dog, alone in the world is a little cat dog)
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To: boatbums

boabums - America has executed 50 million of their own children.

What would be the just way for God to treat America?


1,831 posted on 11/06/2012 11:38:33 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: The Cajun

Don’t let Barack turn fellow Americans into your enemies.


1,832 posted on 11/06/2012 11:38:52 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (cat dog, cat dog, alone in the world is a little cat dog)
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To: boatbums

And just where does he think the “heck” will come from, into which he wants to throw God? If it’s just his private invention, why should anyone else care?

Actually, once God did get thrown into “heck.” Christians refer to it as the sacrifice of Jesus Christ.


1,833 posted on 11/06/2012 11:40:56 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (cat dog, cat dog, alone in the world is a little cat dog)
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To: itssme

I worked for Romney’s campaign past couple months. I am sick that he conceded without fighting the fraud issues in Ohio and Florida, etc. Myself? My next project will be working on voter reform/ voter fraud


1,834 posted on 11/06/2012 11:43:22 PM PST by dkGba
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To: The Cajun

I agree with you The Cajun, my world is about to get very very small because I want NOTHING to do with anyone who voted for the Big Zero. And God help them as things get worse if they dare to complain in front of me.


1,835 posted on 11/06/2012 11:43:32 PM PST by dkGba
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To: JCBreckenridge

Well, when Israel sinned egregiously, eventually God let its enemies literally kill its children so it could see the result of forsaking God.

But when children are killed and a people don’t care, then what is a God going to do in order to bring the horror home to that people? Maybe something similar to what is happening now. By letting that people’s government throw the obscene finger right in that people’s face.


1,836 posted on 11/06/2012 11:43:36 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (cat dog, cat dog, alone in the world is a little cat dog)
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To: plain talk

I don’t know what the answers are anymore, I just think we might be lucky to survive it. We are dealing with people the likes of Pol pot. Just because they have not acted in this fashion as yet does not mean they don’t want too. This may seem extreme but it happens all the time, why not here. I have always thought Gore could easily have been a Nazi the way he shreaks. So many of the left remind me of commies we have lived through, though never here; but it is a new day!


1,837 posted on 11/06/2012 11:43:56 PM PST by tcat
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To: DrewsMum
God didn’t so this. We the people did. He doesn’t choose for us.

I'm not saying God "did this", but nothing happens outside of God's plan and purpose. He knows the end from the beginning. Even though we have free will, there is nothing we do that surprises Him or that can somehow foul up His plan. It's a mystery. And you are right, WE the people have the leaders we elect (at least that's supposed to be how it works), but even this fits into His plan and we have to trust Him. I've been praying for months for Obama to lose, but he didn't, so either God doesn't hear our prayers, He doesn't care about what we bring to Him in prayer or He DID hear and He DID answer our prayer. I prayed for God's will to be done, so I trust that it WILL be. Obama might be able to steal an election but he cannot steal my hope.

1,838 posted on 11/06/2012 11:44:16 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: rainee

Mia Love lost in Utah, also. She lost by 2,818 votes to the Dem. The Libertarian took 5,690 votes (2.6%) and would have brought her to 50.7%. The Rat won with 49.3%

http://electionresults.utah.gov/xmlData/300250.html

By the way, Libertarians took away one and maybe two Congressional seats from the Republicans in Arizona - their votes were 6-plus percent of the totals in two races. But Sheriff Joe won by 10 points over the Dem.

http://www.azcentral.com/news/politics/results/election.php

In New Mexico, Heather Wilson lost to environmental extremist and radical Martin Heinrich (”oil and coal are fuels of the past”) 51-45 percent. But an independent candidate got 4% of the vote. Steve Pearce here in the oil patch won with 60% of the vote. Some powerful senate Democrats lost so maybe Gov.Martinez can repeal driver’s licenses for illegals. However, where an Anglo was up against a Hispanic, the Anglo most always lost, across all races state house, senate, judges, etc. Where a Republican Hispanic was up against a Democratic Hispanic, the races were a toss up with Reps winning some. The party HAS to recruit good Hispanics if it is going to stay relevant in this state.


1,839 posted on 11/06/2012 11:44:22 PM PST by CedarDave (Presstitutes: Journalists who refuse to ask hard questions and who report by omission or distortion)
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To: dkGba

This should be every American’s care. It would be one thing if Barack had won the hearts of America fair and square. But that’s impossible. Barack just gave America the finger. This is not self government. This is cowardice and despair, unless it is resisted.


1,840 posted on 11/06/2012 11:45:44 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (cat dog, cat dog, alone in the world is a little cat dog)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
You don't understand, they are no longer my fellow Americans, they are my enemies by their own choosing, not mine.
So be it.
No sympathy, no quarter given anymore.
1,841 posted on 11/06/2012 11:46:24 PM PST by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: dkGba

I’m 100% there with you, like I said, enough is enough as of tonight.


1,842 posted on 11/06/2012 11:48:28 PM PST by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: boatbums

Why isn’t God enslaved, so to speak, by His own omnipotence? That’s a philosophical question. But it matters. We have to be able to speak of God permitting things that in some manner He does not want or does not prefer, in order to have a world in which evil is even possible without said evil being endorsed by God. God has to allow His handiwork to resist Him without causing it to happen. It falls into the realm of miracle.


1,843 posted on 11/06/2012 11:48:47 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (cat dog, cat dog, alone in the world is a little cat dog)
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To: The Cajun

If you want to transform yourself into not just God, but a graceless God, then this is the consequences.

I suggest you rethink. In what measure you measure out, it will be measured to you by God. And you will wish you had shown other than a hard heart.


1,844 posted on 11/06/2012 11:50:19 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (cat dog, cat dog, alone in the world is a little cat dog)
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To: tcat

Pol Pot killed literally, which Barack Obama is unlikely to do. He will kill softly, with words.


1,845 posted on 11/06/2012 11:52:09 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (cat dog, cat dog, alone in the world is a little cat dog)
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To: dkGba

And this is the very time your world should get larger, not smaller. It should get larger by letting more God into it. More God, with all of His stubborn grace, the stubborn grace without which you might as well already be in an eternal hell.


1,846 posted on 11/06/2012 11:54:22 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (cat dog, cat dog, alone in the world is a little cat dog)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

God lays it all out.

“I will replace your people with another”, and that is exactly what is happening here. I will turn your children and your families over to lusts and perversions that they have chosen.”

And we saw this in America today.


1,847 posted on 11/06/2012 11:56:38 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: JCBreckenridge

Honesty has certainly fallen by the wayside. And winking and nodding (I don’t mean sleeping) leads to more winking and nodding, until eventually, getting along to get along, a people tolerates the sort of fraud that just happened — tolerates it for the sake of form. Everyone who still cares about the country ought to be screaming bloody murder right now.


1,848 posted on 11/06/2012 11:59:33 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (cat dog, cat dog, alone in the world is a little cat dog)
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To: JCBreckenridge

You apparently missed the threads on here that called for Akin’s head within the first 24 hours.

At one point, the movement that says it is for individual responsibility needs to take responsibility for its own actions (or inactions).

Then maybe we’ll win elections again. We suck at it because we are too busy blaming everyone else.


1,849 posted on 11/07/2012 12:00:17 AM PST by sf4dubya (I rebelled against my parents by becoming a conservative. REJECT THEN STOP SOCIALISM THIS NOV!)
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To: JCBreckenridge

That was a literal warning only to the Hebrew people. Inasmuch as it happens to non-Jewish Christians, it is by analogy only.


1,850 posted on 11/07/2012 12:00:42 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (cat dog, cat dog, alone in the world is a little cat dog)
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